Zelda: Oracle of Seasons/Ages - A Leap of Faith
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In the past, I've discussed how trading quests and seeking out information can shape areas in a Zelda game. For Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages, Hidemaro Fujibayashi and his team chose to implement their incredible new ideas and mechanics around this philosophy in an effort to channel the original Zelda. The result is a wildly entertaining, challenging, puzzling, and ultimately enjoyable couple of games that don't get the attention they deserve. They're not perfect, but they represent a leap of faith for the developers, and for the rest of the series.
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The Oracle Games really are something special, too many people sleep on them.
"Pretty sure Din woke something inside of me"
Lmfao I felt that. Good content as always, top notch production and your insights and perspectives on the LoZ series are always so unique and interesting.
Same. She was my first crush. Powerful, powerful stuff!
I was a Nayru simp, myself.
Why not both? It’s all in the same package. 🤣
May be why I like redheads so much now! lol
I love stroking my tool over din
I'll never understand how these games aren't more popular. If there's a series I wish they'd remake or at least rerelease it's these. They are some of my greatest memories.
Unfortunately, I think it might have had to do with releasing so late on the GBC. Because imo they're much better as a whole than LA. Nintendo, for some reason, really doesn't want to acknowledge the Capcom games, but I've wanted these remade for going on a decade.
@@SilentscufflE well mabby there are some legal reasons as to why they can't remake these games because capcom also made the game and therefor have some legal rights over it
Pretty sure these are on virtual console for 3ds/ds
Back in the day I was a kid and parents didn't have money to afford a GBC. It was until GBA SP that I was able to buy and play these games. Loved the story on both and the ability to make better items by transferring your progress from one game to another.
Too many people saw Capcom and not Nintendo and figured " not my zelda". Unfortunately that's ignorant, but one day those people will pick it up and realize just how damn wrong they were.
If it shows up on NSO one day and it gets millions of plays then it might have a shot.
liam’s awakening
Ya know, I'm assuming he thought that panel was hot, but I'm not very good at subtext
@@sevrothegoblin5212 morning r
Din up in here giving me incentive to start a new play thru😎
I love this comment
The Legend of Liam
I hope the Oracle games get the Link's Awakening treatment for the Switch.
They really need this
@@turtleanton6539 y e s
Yea and they should go and contract Capcom to make the final Third game we never got !
You mean the “inferior 3D graphics + art style & keeping the censorship and also applying it to the JP version this time” treatment? No thanks.
(Though I guess there’s probably nothing to censor here, so if they stop being lazy and make it look like ALBW or something I’d be down)
@@Hollow_Tim well ya, please god don't use the same art style 😂 if anything just make it look like seasons and ages already looked, just really good with high bit rates 🙏 I mean .. fricken companies never do that but it would be a dream come true
Should the Oracle games get a remake, I'm hoping it gets an artsyle that' different from the Link's Awakening remake to help further its own identity. And because LA/Koholint Island's setting better fit the twist associated with it.
Link Between Worlds’ style would fit it just fine-and some of the models and textures from LBW were reused for LAswitch (like those mushrooms.) So, lynels can be brought over from LBW, moblins from LA, NPCs in LBA’s style
I think thar for oracle of Ages two styles for the past and present would be perfect.
Past: 2D Hd like octopath traveler
Present: A link betwen worlds
@@AlexxxMYLSince2013 while that would be amazing, it would also be super cost ineffective. At least I'm assuming it would be.
@@anonymousfellow8879 That would be pretty nice, and to give Ganon some justice for the little screen time he had merging with Yuga in ALBW.
They need to remake them with the link's awakening remake engine, they can change the art and still use the engine
Make them a 2-in-1 and maybe compete the third one for a 3-in-1
@@firebirdstark Originally there was a third one planned but was scrapped due to time limitations.
I also find the artstyle of the LA remake perfect for those games.
@@firebirdstark Only if Nintendo wants to print money.
@@FelixS. I think that chibi artstyle was supposed to respresent his dream, along with the macro effect around the screen giving everything a toy-like appearance. Before he sleeps and when he wakes up, everything looks anime and the music is more orchestral sounding. So I don't think it would make sense to reuse that games artstyle again for Oracle remakes.
@@Jack_MxM I have a different opinion. The original GB also used anime artstyle in the beginning and the end as well as the snes iteration (in the booklet at least).The game graphics were due to technical limitations though and the style they chose for the LA remake is a mere callback to those graphics but with a twist. I don’t think it is supposed to represent anything lore wise it is just an artistic way to transfer LA into a truthful modern interpretation.
Those games hold so much mistery and magic to me. When playing 2D games like these ones, there's so much left to the imagination. Tarm Ruins and it's song are forever carved in my memory. Thanks for talking about this games.
My favorite games in the franchise. The oracle games need to be remade.
But if they get remade should they get the fabled third game? Perhaps that would be the bonus for owning and completing both? Instead of Twinrova and Ganon being an epilogue it could open up a few more dungeons in a new shared region that uses the gimmick of each title in different ways?
But if they get remade should they get the fabled third game? Perhaps that would be the bonus for owning and completing both? Instead of Twinrova and Ganon being an epilogue it could open up a few more dungeons in a new shared region that uses the gimmick of each title in different ways?
Id prefer to remake them in modern 2d artstyle just like minish cap but much better instead of what theyve done to links awakening.
@@zeroattentiongaming820 nah the dungeons and characters from the third game was put in seasons and ages so the third game would be a bad rehash and many will complain with the lack of the important ganon and twinrova epilogue
I love this duology SO much. The rings were one of my fav items. Also, I prefer Ages over Seasons. Nayru best Goddess
Minish Cap and the Oracle games have forever been tied for my all time favorites in the TLOZ series.
Okay, but Din was top tier waifu. 10 year old me was all kinds of yes about that character. I had a massive crush.
Oracle of Seasons was the game that introduced me to the Legend of Zelda franchise. Naturally, it wasn't long before I got Oracle of Ages as well.
Same
These games (along with links awakening and the minsh cap) are my favorite zelda games. Thank you for covering this awesome duo!
Worth every penny as a kid and as an adult on my DS. These were my 1st intro into anything Zelda
It was the Summer of 2002 and my best friend had Oracle of Ages and I had Oracle of Seasons. I watched him play, and he watched me play, and then we linked the games. I later on played the other Oracle game myself. This summer is still on my mind. I remember it vividly.
I want remakes of these two games, plus a new third one, pitch name Oracle of Elements.
I want the third planned game
Didn’t even wait to like this video 😂 seasons will always have a place in my nostalgic heart 😎
For me too Omni!
These were my first video games way back when I played on my mom’s save file because I was all of 4 or 5 at the time. I will forever love Din and Nayru from these games and when I think of the song of storms I always think of that man next to the windmill. I’m so happy to find somebody talking about games so important to me.
Oracle of Ages if my favorite 2D Zelda game. Loved the dungeons, and I thought it was the only Zelda game without pacing issues.
I'm really glad that someone is going through all these games making really good videos, I played every Zelda game last year, and it's hard to find people who have played some of the more "obscure" ones to hear opinions on.
To be honest the music and sounds effects grew on me, I genuinely love this games
Memories you just unlocked:
1. I was OBSESSED with the Goron Dance Hall in Oracle of Ages. I would start up my Gameboy JUST to play it over and over.
2. mOOOOOOSH. I loved that dude.
3. I would make up lil dances by jumping onto the tree stumps in Oracle of Seasons and landing on different sides of it. It was a lot of dumb fun haha
4. Turning my volume all the way down whenever I had to use that godforsaken magnetic tool :,)
On the topic of music, I actually use the credits and staff roll song from ages as my morning alarm sometimes. Because if hire obnoxiously Loud it is, it essentially scares me awake
i've played zelda games left and right, every one of them at least once
but the oracle games are the zelda games i always come back to.
Beautiful custom thumbnail art on this one man. I'd love to hear you talk more about the Zelda Manga! Oracle of ages and the 4 swords books are definitely my favorite of the bunch.
THESE GAMES ARE THE MOST UNDERRATED IN THE SERIES THE COLORS AND THE PUZZLES ARE SO AMAZING I HOPE THEY GET REMAKES LIKE LINKS AWAKENING
I loved these as a kid. My mom had the strategy guide which was a cool 2 in 1. It was ages on one side and you'd flip it over for seasons, so cool.
These two Zelda games are my favorite Zelda adventure! I love the upgraded weapons you can get after linking the game from one to another!!
The greatest legend of zelda game of all time. Love these games.
I found a strategy guide for these games lying on a table at an after-school centre in my childhood. Everyone had already left and I was the last one there so I just took it home with me.
In hindsight that was kind of, uh... theft. I didn't consider that at the time, and now I regret it, but it did give me the opportunity to experience these games, albeit entirely through text. Still have it, I think.
The Oracle games hold a hefty dose of nostalgia in my book. Seasons had the best dungeons and bosses whereas Ages had the best story and characters. We can only hope that Nintendo and Grezzo are remaking them on Switch as we speak right now
Would that be a dream?
I think they should remake them to be more like Link between worlds
I feel that these 2 games will be really good when they are finally remade.
These games are hands down my favorite Zelda titles. I would beat them every summer, sometimes again and again, since the linked quest can continue on to the Triforce quest.
Did you know there's not one, but at least two references to these games in Undertale? There's a chasm a blue chicken takes you across very strenuously, and a table with "A powerful-looking bracelet" on it, before revealing "Oh, it's just a croissant."
There's a reason these games are so beloved by its fans, and it's no coincidence that BOTW is such a hit with its director coming from them. It's only a shame that Nintendo doesn't give them any recognition.
These are both references to link’s awakening though.
man im late but still insanely excited! love to see a new liam vid :)
Even though I never played the Oracle games I still found this video very informative. Might want to play them. Great video, Liam
not a month goes by i dont have at least one stray thought to find my 3ds charger, charge said 3ds and try to 100% these games again. this was part of my childhood, ages was the sole reason why my GBC broke. anyways ty for this video, i see it as a sign to frikken do it
Skull Dungeon's theme from Ages will always be one of my favorite zelda songs.
24:08 That bass drop KILLED me!
Rebecca Tripp is an amazing musician. It's cool to see you using her music. 2 artists collabing in any way is nice to see. And I love the oracle games. I really enjoy all the gameboy zelda games.
Well you made me want to play The Oracle Games again. Thank you. See ya!
These games were so dear to me. All LoZ games are, it’s a blessing to have been playing LoZ for 20 years
As kids I got Seasons and my older sister got Ages. I beat and replaced Seasons tons of times and never truly got into Ages. I still have Seasons tucked away while my sister lost Ages. A few months ago at a local game store I found both of these games on GBA carts so naturally I bought them both.
Couldn't figure out how to link the two games and still don't haha. I almost have beaten Seasons and a couple dungeons in Ages. What I absolutely love about these on GBA is the save states and playing on my IPS funnyplaying screen GBA and makes these great games even better!
I'm normally a big puzzles guy, but I loved Seasons' overworld so much; the whole thing was like a puzzle. The boss fights were much more fun, too. Ages was great on GBC, and I think I might've played it twice, but I honestly enjoyed Seasons even more. They're both great, of course, and I'd love to see a Switch remake using assets from the Link's Awakening version.
And I loooooved the magnetic gloves!
Ohhhhh Tarm Ruins….
I had drained sooooo many batteries on my gameboy just because I came to Tarm Ruins for its music. It is magical!!!
Seasons was the first Zelda game I beat, Ages was rented and beat shortly after to see the “true ending”. As a Zelda fan, Seasons especially, they hold a special place in my heart. I had the guidebook, since as an 11 year old, they could get complicated! A real challenge! I pray they remake these and hopefully complete the intended third game that they wanted with the remake. It was intended to be 3 games, one for each triforce piece. Just remake and slap all three on a switch cartridge and sell for $60, I’ll for sure buy it!
Oracle games having the same director as BoTW and Skyward Sword is very apparent looking back.
Both these games are easily A tier Zelda games, idk why they aren’t acknowledged more by fans
1:13 I had a similar experience, but with sexy Gruntilda
It was Nabooru for me.
Oh hell yeah she was what the kids these days are calling "thirsty" so that totally would have happened to me too... but B-K came out a few months before OoT and you had to see sexy Grunty to save
another excellent retrospective, and definitely the best ive ever seen someone articulate what really makes these games feel different from links awakening. ive played through all three multiple times but had never really been able to put my finger on just how much more demanding the oracle games are on your memory/spatial aptitude...they really are special in how much closer they get to the original zelda, especially compared to every other handheld game in the series
I named the couple’s kid It because that will lead to some hilarious dialogue such as “Look! It has grown!”
My brother just happened to buy both games at the same time that I bought my Gameboy Advance SP, and I couldn’t believe how fun and wonderful both games were! I’ve played the shit out of them, probably 10 times through by now and they still hold up! I even got into pixel art because one of my classes was so boring that I downloaded MS Paint and re-colored a bunch of sprites from both games, so thank you for doing a video on these hidden gems, they’re my favorite games of all time!
always a treat to see a new liam triforce video to help me get through the work day
"Why would you want to take notes while you're playing a video game"
Me: -glancing over at a stack of notebooks each having the name of a single game draped across the front- 😅
I got both of these back in the day, but never ended up finishing them...good to see they're awesome.
The funny thing is that I just got a copy of Oracle of Seasons at a flea market on Sunday, and then this appears in my recommendation feed.
The original soundtrack in these games out here sounding like a free jazz improvisation.
I honestly really like the feeling the oracle games have. It's a bit weirder and different from what the series was known for at the time. But it somehow fits so well it's generally what I think of when I think of the Zelda franchise during the late 90s and early 2000s. The art especially, the style is something that I most associated with that time, and it fits the series (or my subjective view of what the series is).
Seasons was my first Zelda game and it's delightful to see it getting some love. It gets flak but honestly these are solid games, and two of my favorite games period from the GBC.
I still hope they someday remake the two oracle games and the lost 3rd oracle game.
In my opinion, the Oracle games are handily better than Link's Awakening.
AGREED!
Truthfully? I could watch you play through these games casually and have a blast. Heck, I might even whip out my Gameboy advanced and actually try to beat the games again. My brain always had a stroke (I was like, 13 at the time) whenever I'd try to play these games, so I never got around to beating them. Heck, never even made it to the first dungeon. Still though, that intro cutscene is nostalgic for me, since these games are probably among the first Zelda games I ever got around to playing, besides A Link To The Past, which WAS my first one on the gameboy. Anyway, sorry for rambling, but the way you made this video was really fun and fresh. Heck, I'mma subscribe. Thanks for the effort, man
Honestly I can’t wait to play these games they look amazing.
These games were such a staple of my childhood. Were it not for the existence of Link's Awakening, they'd be my favorite handheld Zelda game, or even my favorite of all time.
These games definitely need to be talked about more often, though.
Tarm Ruins level 6 is unique in a few other ways. Instant death trap, remote control boomerang. Level 6 is great.
I think i'd really love to see the Oracle games getting the Link's Awakening treatment sometime in the future. I would definitely buy it.
While it's true the Oracle duology are rarely acknowledged, the fact they did both get official manga adaptations by Akira Himekawa and are included in the manga box set speaks to the impact they had on those who did play them. Being the massive unapologetic fanboy of the Capcom trio that I am, I was blown away by that when I came across the set. So much quirky charm in these two games, arguably more than Awakening or Minish Cap and the manga absolutely captures it.
Growing up with game manuals having note sections, these two are the only games I actually made notes on. If they get a Switch remake or remakes it'd get me to finally buy one. They could definitely do with at least one quality of life upgrade, not having to pause so frequently for item switching. Hardly an issue for me but I can see it being annoying for some and Awakening wasn't nearly as bad with it iirc.
Great to see people like you and KingK giving these two games some in depth attention.
Because of your Zelda series. You have inspired me to buy a GBA, OoS, OoA, MC, and LA.
Seasons was the first game I bought when I began my first part time job. Good Times.
just played oracle of seasons and ages again. much nostalgia
"Both of the first dungeons are a cake-walk" Except Aquamentus. One of the hardest first bosses in the entire series. XD
As a man who's formal introduction to the entire series was "Oracle of Ages", it saddens me to think about how many fans have not only not played both, but have never heard of EITHER.
Lots of innovative design in this game, as well as some of the coolest items in the series that I wish they'd have brought back (Justice for the Magnet Glove!).
I will say, though, you're right about the sound design. Some of those themes are a bit grating. Might be a case of "wrong instrument" though, because I've heard covers that definitely DON'T suck.
My first Zelda games and forever near to my heart. Thank you for a great video.
Those were my first zelda games and have a very special place in my heart.
A perfect video about the best zelda games in my opinion, what more could you ask for!
Can we talk about the Dancing Dragon Dungeon theme? That's a blast!
I love the Oracle games quite a bit and I agree with this retrospective a lot. For me, they can be pretty sluggish, though I attribute that to the repetitive dungeons and the occasionally slow and noxious music
I would love an eventual remake, particularly with the third game included
I have to admit, the reason why I love the oracle games and Link's Awakening is the sheer amount of dungeons. I was so disappointed when I played Minish Cap for the very first time and it had 4 small dungeons, and I felt so betrayed. Whenever I'm in the mood to check out a Zelda game I haven't played yet, I decide not to because there is no way in hell another Zelda game can contain as much content, be as creative in terms of item/weapons and can be as challenging puzzle wise than the Oracle games and Link's Awakening.
Another great video. Thanks, Liam!
Rancid is now my favorite genre of music
Loved both of these games when they came out in 2nd grade. Lots of nostalgia
both OoA&OoS are so good 🥺
i had them both at launch
fun with friends sharing rings/codes
i know its not a popular opinion but i liked them more than links awakening dx
Man, I've always advocated for the Oracle games to be remade as a big 3D title. There's so much potential here.
Aside from wanting these remade, I'd love to see some kind of mod that allows for more buttons to be used and perhaps a bigger screen.
These games were my childhood 🥺🥺🥺 all the music brings back so much memories 🥺 I need them to be remade for switch 😍
i bought oracle of seasons back then, the gameboy color game.
think that was the first zelda i havent finish until today. was very
complex back then
21:54 "I'm not about to analyze 16 dungeons in this video. That's a lot."
*Looks at rest of Zelda retrospective playlist*
Yeah, that would take way too much time, like, 2 hours or something...
My first experience with the Oracle games was the manga as well. However, when I did play them they quickly became one of my top three favorite Zelda games (yes I rank them together as a pair.) It sucks that barely anyone played them because everyone's focus was on 3D Zelda in a post-OoT world.
They definitely need to Remake Ages and Seasons for the Switch just how they did Link's Awakening, however if they still have the idea for the 3rd game that was meant to be a part of the duology, then they should think about bringing that game to light and give us the experience they were trying to give us back then. That plus Farore also deserves some love and i am curious as to what was going to be that game's mechanics.
Had these when i was younger and didn't realy have access to the internet at that time so had to figure everything out myself I don't think infoind everything but I do remember figuring out the gems what a pain as a kid but I had all the time in the world I remember digging out every pice of dirt in the game basicly to find stuff
I decided to play Seasons for the first time since I was 10. Immediately got sucked into it. Played for 16 straight hours with very minimal online help until I beat it for the first time.
We need a remake for these
“I have a crush on Din.”
Brother, don’t we all?
those are great! Really inspiring videos!
Thanks to this video, I'm gonna at least try to fully go through Oracle of Seasons. I have had both oracle games on my 2ds for years, and I was in need of an idea to tide me over until the Splatoon 3 pre launch splatfest happens, and then the wait until Splatoon 3's final launch hype
I could never beat Ages. I found the last required Goron Dance minigame difficulty level impossible, and I spent hours on it. Was having lots of fun until that point.
Oracle of Seasons was my favourite Colour game of all time. So damn good
It would be cool if they remade these games for the switch.
I only played ages and had a ton of rings. This game let me punch things. Good game.
Liam... You're awesome 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
Din awakened something in *everyone*, bro. Even if you read the manga and just forgot, you're forever changed.