Thanks for the info. I see more benefits in the 12ft over the 14. Unless like you said you’re hauling equipment all the time but it doesn’t look like that big a deal to lift the bucket over the front. And you you really don’t have to worry about over loading it just filler up. The 14 you can get yourself in trouble loading wet dirt if your not careful. Thanks for the video.
I’ve been looking into 3 brands of trailers. Lamar, IronBull, & Load Trail. All 3 in the 7’x12’ with 24” sides. Sadly, I have to drive to hell & back for 2 of the trailer venders. Load Trail is more local. 7 & 10 gauge steel, 12 & 16” spacing for supports. 8” I beams. All USA made parts. But damn are these a whole lotta coin! Love your vids!
There are three holes when it’s up I’m in the highest hole if I go to the lowest it should push it up a few more inches which should give me a steeper pitch I think have to see.
@@WorldsOkayestFarmer maybe, I just dont think its gonna work. If it does make it go up more I dont think it will stow fully. I looked at the dirt ring on the piston and it looks like it's pretty well fully stowed when down. So if its moved to the next hole or two feel like its gonna bottom out on the piston before it's down. Maybe it's just how it looks in the video. Make another video of changing it over.
@@bucksgarage1I would have to agree, moving it to that third hole is actually further away from the cylinders, therefore, keeping it from going up further
There are 2 different types of dump trailers, are regular profile and a low profile. The low profile has the dump box closing between the frame rails versus regular profile setting on top of the frame rails when the bed is down. The low profiles has the back of the dump bed closer to the ground when raised all the way up. From the video I couldn't tell what yours is, but my 16ft looks to have more clearance when raised not much but a little more with a 2ft longer trailer. The bottom of the bed is usually 4 inches lower to the ground on low profiles when the is down. The low profiles are good if you hual equipment a lot making loading easier, but dumping harder if you are trying to dump a pile its not high enough. On the ram cylinders it looks like the front of yours needs to be raised. That would help get them off the axle and should gain a inch or two on the lift. Look on both trailers the the bottom of the cylinders are mounted. The 12ft looks the be higher into the frame. Just remember the angle has to be right or it want lift it will just push straight back and break things.
Whether you have a spindle hook or a ball if you can back one up and hook it up you should be able to back one up. A ball hitch I simple just because you cant get it on first hit dont knock it.
I hate pintle hitches because of the slop. If you happen to get the name of the device your friend used to help with that, please pass it along. I think the 6'x12 foot is a good all around trailer for most people because it is lighter. Most people don't have a class A CDL to be able to tow the 14k gvw. I do not think moving your cylinders to those other holes will give you any more height- I think it just makes it easier for the rams to lift. Neat video!!
DeHaven Family Farm thanks for the input about the cylinders my buddy brett says the same thing only more worried about when the dump bed is stowed. The 12ft is 14k gvw also but manufacturers will put a 10k data plate on them to keep you out of trouble
DeHaven Family Farm it’s called a hitch tightener they sell them on amazon for $15 it will help with any hitch it takes a lot of the slop out of the hitch itself. You still will have some banging with pintles but it helps a lot
you cant be over 26000 combined truck and trailer also you can have the trailer de rated to stay at the 26000 lb max. i have a ram dually gvw 14000 so i get my trailers down rated to 12000 so i am not over.
Well It depends on what you’re hauling. You can still overload a F150 with a 12ft I would go with the 12’ and not overload it for that truck. The 10’ would match the truck better. Hauling lumber and such it’s nicer to have the longer trailer.
You can pull under a 10k GVWR trailer with a regular license. A lot of states like Pennsylvania you need a CDL to be towing any trailer with greater than 10k GVWR on the trailer builder's sticker. That's why they build 12 foot 9990 GVWR trailers...
Batteries for a dump trailers are JUNK!!!!! You need to do away with that setup. Go buy some good thick battery cable, run one wire from your truck battery to the back of the truck. You can take a short piece for the second one and ground it to the back frame of the truck. Put golf cart plugs on the back of the truck and one on the dump trailer for hook up. I did that with my truck and dump trailer. You will never have any more issues. Thats the only way to go.
Did you keep your old one too to have a second trailer, or did yours get worn out and you replaced it? Just wondering about longevity of dump trailers.
Thanks for the info. I see more benefits in the 12ft over the 14. Unless like you said you’re hauling equipment all the time but it doesn’t look like that big a deal to lift the bucket over the front. And you you really don’t have to worry about over loading it just filler up.
The 14 you can get yourself in trouble loading wet dirt if your not careful. Thanks for the video.
Chevy 55 you’re right about all of that!
Good video. I just bought a 7x14 Gatormade dump trailer a few months ago. Love it so far.
Dalton Dees awesome i just broke mine the other day buying a new one soon
Nice comparison. I just traded a 12 foot dump trailer for a 16 foot
I’ve been looking into 3 brands of trailers. Lamar, IronBull, & Load Trail. All 3 in the 7’x12’ with 24” sides. Sadly, I have to drive to hell & back for 2 of the trailer venders. Load Trail is more local. 7 & 10 gauge steel, 12 & 16” spacing for supports. 8” I beams. All USA made parts. But damn are these a whole lotta coin! Love your vids!
Prices are up I just paid 9500 out the door for a 6 x11 carry on trailer that is very cheaply made. Keep up the good videos.
Man at least I got a good deal on something lol. Thank you
I dont think moving those cylinders is going to give you more height. I feel like it will give you less. I'm interested to see now.
There are three holes when it’s up I’m in the highest hole if I go to the lowest it should push it up a few more inches which should give me a steeper pitch I think have to see.
@@WorldsOkayestFarmer maybe, I just dont think its gonna work. If it does make it go up more I dont think it will stow fully. I looked at the dirt ring on the piston and it looks like it's pretty well fully stowed when down. So if its moved to the next hole or two feel like its gonna bottom out on the piston before it's down. Maybe it's just how it looks in the video. Make another video of changing it over.
@@bucksgarage1I would have to agree, moving it to that third hole is actually further away from the cylinders, therefore, keeping it from going up further
You already have your cylinders at the highest lift setting.
Gary Mccarver i think the most fwd hole is the highest setting i would have to lift the bed to get it to it.
Thanks for the comparison! All good information there bud!
Denny's Country Life thanks Chris!
There are 2 different types of dump trailers, are regular profile and a low profile. The low profile has the dump box closing between the frame rails versus regular profile setting on top of the frame rails when the bed is down. The low profiles has the back of the dump bed closer to the ground when raised all the way up. From the video I couldn't tell what yours is, but my 16ft looks to have more clearance when raised not much but a little more with a 2ft longer trailer.
The bottom of the bed is usually 4 inches lower to the ground on low profiles when the is down. The low profiles are good if you hual equipment a lot making loading easier, but dumping harder if you are trying to dump a pile its not high enough.
On the ram cylinders it looks like the front of yours needs to be raised. That would help get them off the axle and should gain a inch or two on the lift. Look on both trailers the the bottom of the cylinders are mounted. The 12ft looks the be higher into the frame. Just remember the angle has to be right or it want lift it will just push straight back and break things.
I just bought a new 12ft load trail, first load and it broke where the ram mounts to the frame, not braced right.
Whether you have a spindle hook or a ball if you can back one up and hook it up you should be able to back one up. A ball hitch I simple just because you cant get it on first hit dont knock it.
Hey get whatever you want. I don't like ball hitches.
If your pistons are bottomed out, you'll actually lose height, but you'll gain ground clearance in the back end.
I hate pintle hitches because of the slop. If you happen to get the name of the device your friend used to help with that, please pass it along. I think the 6'x12 foot is a good all around trailer for most people because it is lighter. Most people don't have a class A CDL to be able to tow the 14k gvw. I do not think moving your cylinders to those other holes will give you any more height- I think it just makes it easier for the rams to lift. Neat video!!
DeHaven Family Farm thanks for the input about the cylinders my buddy brett says the same thing only more worried about when the dump bed is stowed. The 12ft is 14k gvw also but manufacturers will put a 10k data plate on them to keep you out of trouble
DeHaven Family Farm it’s called a hitch tightener they sell them on amazon for $15 it will help with any hitch it takes a lot of the slop out of the hitch itself. You still will have some banging with pintles but it helps a lot
@@WorldsOkayestFarmer Thanks!
you cant be over 26000 combined truck and trailer also you can have the trailer de rated to stay at the 26000 lb max. i have a ram dually gvw 14000 so i get my trailers down rated to 12000 so i am not over.
Great comparison! Is a 6x10 or 7x12 better for a F150?
Well It depends on what you’re hauling. You can still overload a F150 with a 12ft I would go with the 12’ and not overload it for that truck. The 10’ would match the truck better. Hauling lumber and such it’s nicer to have the longer trailer.
Thanks for the info
Of course there are differences for instant the jack rating
I change the rules of road so u can drive a 12ft normal license double trailer more rules & terms apply.
You lost me
You can pull under a 10k GVWR trailer with a regular license. A lot of states like Pennsylvania you need a CDL to be towing any trailer with greater than 10k GVWR on the trailer builder's sticker. That's why they build 12 foot 9990 GVWR trailers...
What model Kubota is that? I'm trying to get an idea of size. I have a JD 4066R and trying to decide if it will fit?
rcooley41 Its a L3200
@@WorldsOkayestFarmer Thanks!
Maybe measuring the overall length of your tractor will help in deciding if you should go with a 12' or 14' trailer.
Batteries for a dump trailers are JUNK!!!!! You need to do away with that setup. Go buy some good thick battery cable, run one wire from your truck battery to the back of the truck. You can take a short piece for the second one and ground it to the back frame of the truck. Put golf cart plugs on the back of the truck and one on the dump trailer for hook up. I did that with my truck and dump trailer. You will never have any more issues. Thats the only way to go.
Let's Dig One i really haven’t had any issues. The truck charges the deep cycle batteries
The 14 gvw dumps are on the trucks rate for 12500? 5 ton of material makes them with trailer 14 ton and over the bumper rating of the truck?
Randy Clark bumper weight depends on how the trailer is loaded. They may be a bit overweight but handle no problem
Grvw of a truck and towing capacity is different. The weight of a trailer does increase the weight of the truck
Cory Welborn doesn’t really increase the weight of the truck it increases the combined gvw the truck still weighs the same
Are these both 7ft wide?
Yes!
Your dump trailer has a double acting pump and cylinders; his only has single acting.
I notice your trailer has power down cyl. hookups, the 12' did not.. not sure how that would matter.
Gravity down saves on battery life - can lift the body a couple more times in a day
How wide?
7ft
No fault till you hi but if you think you'll gain height changing to another hole, your not the dude to be taking advise from.
14ft dump trailers now are $13k
That’s absolutely ridiculous! I just got a new Moritz 14’ last spring for $8500 they are now well over 10k
Did you keep your old one too to have a second trailer, or did yours get worn out and you replaced it?
Just wondering about longevity of dump trailers.
Link your buddy’s yt
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This tow hitch might be of benefit
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Pretty cool thanks for sharing