Lindell - 80 Series (Audio Examples) - Mixing With Mike Plugin of the Week
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
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Mike, this is another great video. Thanks a lot for your ongoing support!
Cheers! Keep up the great work, and I'll keep reviewing it!!!
Whenever I find a range of videos on a plugin, you are consistently the best at making these tour videos in every area: historical knowledge, an understanding of the functions, and the demonstration of the plugin put to its best use.
Cheers Joe!
Couldn't agree with you more Joe. Consistently the most thorough and comprehensive demos out there. Nobody comes close as far as I can tell.
Joe is spot on. Mike's channel is such a valuable resource
I was just saying the same thing Joe. I have very limited experience working ON the big boards because I always worked "around them" as a player or writer - not an engineer. These walk through videos are so great.
Cheers!
Mike White was my teacher in school. I mix music podcasts and film. Every job I have ever done has Mike imprints on it. Thanks Mike!!!!
Hey Frank!!!!
Absolutely blown away by this console emulation. Just started a new project and used this on all busses and the master -- night and day. Huge boost in character and depth. Tons of incredible vibe and mojo under the hood here.
Yes indeed!
Yeah, the depth that this plugin produce is truly impressive
Sounds absolutely incredible.
With the Lindell series 80, the new kush omega twq, ik tapes and true iron, I'm in analogue heaven. It's the Next-gen of plugins
How do you line these up. Which comes first?
Those IK Tapes and Sunset Sound Reverb are great!
:)
So great. As a musician on a budget I'm so thankful that we can have such amazing tools ITB today. Cheers
I put these bus modules on all buses in a mix yesterday...WOW! Haven't even yet tried the channel strip and it's already amazing...
I love the bus modules too and am playing around with using them on every channel.
Demoed this for an hour last night comparing it with my current favorite channel strip. This thing is fantastic. Amazing addition to my collection.
It's definitely a great addition if you want to capture that 80 Series signature sound.
Greg, what is/was your current favourite channel strip?
@@Barncore Hey Nick. The Waves Scheps Omni Channel. Super versatile. Super powerful. Does 95% of what just about any and every track needs. Can't say enough about it. It's on sale for $40 right now too.
@@gregwixted I agree with your entire assessment of the Omni Channel. It's a goto for me too. Although the Lindell 80 can't do all the things Omni can, it so awesome that is right there bumping on the heals of Omni as my #2. LOL
@@PatApoo I recently picked up the Brainworx SSL 4000E channel strip and holy moly does that thing kill it. Worth checking out if you haven't yet.
I bought this today along with the shadow hills class A for 29 bucks each (!!!) with the leap year voucher they sent me. Best 58 bucks I've ever spent! This channel strip is killer.
I'm getting the same! Just a hobbyist, but why not eh!
@@soundfx68 I had a friend with a spare voucher and I also bought the SSL 4000 strip. Man, I don't think I've ever used such good sounding plugins as these. They sound right.
Same here :)
So funny, exactly the same. I even have the yearly subscription, but I just had to “own” these two.
Really really nice walk through. So informative and helpful. Really a perfect balance of the technical and musical with some historical info on the original consoles and units. This video, as well as the BX SSL 4000 E and the BX Console N are so helpful for me.
Great video, i enjoy all your videos they are very informative. Thanks!
Cheers!
Cheers!
I was able to snag this plugin in their Leap Year sale this week and I love it. It's become my new-plugin ritual to watch your videos (after reading the manual, of course) to dig deeper than I could on my own. Thanks for all you do!
Those drums sound amazing, nice and crispy
Cheers!
This thing sounds ridiculously good!
Indeed!
Thanks, Mike, your two reviews on this are excellent. I bought this one recently and have constructed a complete 'Neve' console in Logic using the Lindell 80 Channel and Bus components to see how the sound and workflow go.
That's super cool! 😎
The X Channel was excellent - so I have high hopes for this.
Thanks for this super helpful video! :)
Great video! It sounds wonderful.
A/B ing with the Focusrite...Whew! The Lindell 80 on tracks with the bus module across auxes? Good Gawddd! Inspiring me to write and record more! LOVE this thing.
Yes, great job by Lindell on this one!
Hey Michael, great review as usual im just only surprised you didnt do uad's avalon plugin before this.. being that's the main one out.. but excelent plugin. The look is blazing...
I shot both within a day of each other but this vid was closer to the release date. The Avalon is amazing as well...!
Thanks for the amazing Demo, Mike. I love the plugin but I’m totally lost with that meter, how do I know if I’m clipping the signal with that meter?
I totally love this plugin. Has become my go to channel strip. To be honest, i haven't tried UAD stuff yet, but Waves Scheps/VEQ, Noiseash Need, and even other brainworx N type did not work for me as well as the lindell 80 series. In 90% of the cases i am using the 84 mode, which gives me a bit more flexibiliy and seems to be a little punchier and more present in the midrange and topend. But the lowend on 73 is great.
Also the (parallel)-compressor is very useful and can bring things to life (but also destroy, so be careful with higher ratios).
Just make sure to treat the preamp with care and dial-in before you set up the compressor, because the preamp tends to compress a lot in higher settings.
I am a big fan but will not leave it unmentioned, that there are some features lacking (pleeeease PA, consider it for the nex tupdate):
1. Add a second midband, even if its not true to hardware. Or make the EQ a stand-alone pluign, so you can throw in a second instance without the preamp, comp and gate overhead
2. Add M/S mode at least for EQ and Comp
Very nice!
I bought the original... BX_N when it came out but never liked the GUI and backward controls. This console is intuitive, has great features and gives an even better Neve color IMHO. It's only downside is the crappy meters.
The 'backward ' controls were representing the exact design of the original. It actual makes more sense if you are seated at the actual console looking at an angle instead of of straight down on it. The 80 Series desks definitely had more color than the later V-Series Neves
Great video, Mike! Just grabbed this and was wondering if the channel can be used on stereo busses? Thanks!
If im just using this strictly ITB, which calibration setting should I use by default? I would think -18dbfs?? (which is not the default for this plugin)
Is this comp the same as the 2254e? How fitting is this for more folk style music vs the console n? Thanks Mike!
Yes, same as the Lindell 254e
nice
Would the Lindell 80's replace the Console-N?
How would you personally use the two, would one be better suited for a particular instrument or genera compared to the other?
It's a different emulation right? Lindell is older Neve, console-n is a bit later...
I’ve been using this and the 9000 J plug-in alliance best deal Quality vs Price vs Sounding dam near excactly like Hardware this BLOWS UAD, WAVES AND SLATE DIGITAL AWAY
How does the buss plug-in compare with UAD Neve summing? I have Lindell and wonder if it's redundant to get the UAD.
Have you got experience of a real Neve?
The A/B at 28:08, holy shit
dude, I want to eat that guitar on the right
Hahaha
Great rock guitar sound!
Thanks Michael for great review.
I would however disagree a little about some statements of yours ;)
While for all people who raised on analog gear learning curve, easy usage and possibility could seem great I believe overall it is not good direction just to emulate gear with just a little extension. It is still moving limitations of that gear to digital world where in fact true limitation is only imagination of creators.
Any consoles wasn't built like it was just because it was best possible thing... They had limitation in construction because of size, price, electrical circuits limitations. When they were built it was not possible physically to grant quality and match size of console (keeping cost affordable at least for some to get them sold).
So I believe it would be better if plugin creators left completely those limitations and gave real freedom. Virtual console build based on any elements. Switching mode making losing HPF ? It is ridiculous. Why it is like that? Just to keep exactness of emulation of real gear? Why?
Why not build something what has no limitation at all? But still behaving like 1 console.
Just with possibility to decide if I need 3 or 4 bands + LPF + HPF for Neve sound (why not? it was not done in real gear? So what? ;) Why not in the same console use API module (Acustica is trying to do something like this). Even better... Why not use in the same channel of virtual strip of our virtual console part of API, part of Neve, part maybe clinical EQ (not emulating any gear)... Etc... There are infinite possibilities...
Hi Piotr,
I appreciate your points, many of which are very valid. I would add that consoles of the 70's were much more focussed on sound quality than flexibility. Flexibility in design work came later in the 70's with the SSL E Series with variable frequencies and full dynamics sections in every channel. The tradeoff in quality was stark and clear then to those in the industry at the time. Most would track on a Neve and mix on an SSL as a compromise of quality versus flexibility. Most good SSL rooms were loaded with Neve, API, Pultecs and other vintage "Less Flexible" options.
Every time an emulation is created, this debate occurs with the design team. There are 2 valid ways to conceive of a plugin's design. Slate chose to add the flexibility you are asking for as have others. UA mostly stays true to the limitations of the original design with very minor tweaks.
Some see adaptations like full frequency sweeps, for example, as taking away what gives the vintage piece its classic sound as heard on countless great records of that era, just like SSL did back in the late 70s. I happen to be more aligned with this camp. Given the choice, I will use a UA plugin over Slate without exception and I've yet to hear an emulation with the flexibility you are asking for that sounds good enough to use in a mix.
If I want full creative control, I will use a Pro-Q3 and throw a Neve preamp and/or tape emulation on for the harmonic distortion. Why limit myself to a 3 or 4 band EQ with a very limited ergonomic design and no RTA? So I can pretend that I'm using a Neve 8038 console?
If I want an 8038 sound, I'll use this channel strip and throw on a dig eq to fill the limitations of this design.
Cheers!
Mike
@@mixingwithmike Hi Micheal, thanks for your answer :)
I hear you. In general sense whole DAW is giving us flexibility to mix any plugins we want on any channel... So right... But...
The thing is about workflow and this is why channel strips are so popular not just using single plugins like pre+eq+comp+gate+etc. Or even funnier example... ;) hardware consoles vs tens of great single alone gears like pre+eq+etc .... and ... hundreds (?) cables to connect, tens of power supplies etc... Legion of standalone gear could beat quality of console but never beat workflow of using console ...
But of course you right there are always some advantages of almost any approach. Even fixed value for EQ give instant focus on some frequencies which are not randomly picked there but after some years of experience of manufacturers ;)
But this is the thing... we have either... or... As you pointed about manufacturers approach. My dream plugin (or framework) would be something skipping limits. With workflow of console and flexibility of use any option there. Kind of custom console freely build as needed for any channel at will.
I am aware for many people it could sound actually as disadvantage as initial learning curve would be not so nice (but still presets could help) and also true is too many option often decreases productivity.
But it would be something to chose. Currently if I love for instance this Lindell 80 but would like to (or be forced to) add just one or few additionally EQ point I need to add another EQ plugin and I am losing the whole beauty of workflow with channel strip and everything in just 1 place :(
STILL 3 minutes of talking at the top. JEEZ...
Qbertykey Yeah! Thank goodness for all of Mike's insights! It's great that here is a real pro walking us through this plugin!
Can't help myself!
@@bassaroo Cheers!
Michael White At least you own it...
Michael White love the intro. The history lesson you give is key.