Just bought a Nallo 2... ready for my South West Coast Path trip in May 2021 (doing the whole 630 miles). Abbie's videos kind of helped me make the decision - so thanks for that!
@@PatrickPierceBateman Couldn't tell you yet... thanks to CV19 I've not had a chance to use my tent yet. I've done a couple of trial erections (no sniggering in class, please!) and it does seem to have lots of venting options, so I've got high hopes for it.
Great review. I have the Nallo 2GT and really love the bigger vestibule, using it for two. Re the condensation issue, a major solution is going to be to get a footprint for it. Most of the condensation will come from the transpiration from the grass, especially in the vestibule area. I have ordered a footprint for the 2GT.
Thanks for the update and the initial review. I have watched both. Yeah, it looks like a great tent. The Nallo 2 reminds me a lot of the Macpac Olympus tent, except the Nallo is 0.5 or 0.6 kilograms lighter and seems to have much better (but still not perfect) venting to try to deal with condensation. Weight of 2.4 kilograms seems great! The Olympus had 3 hooped poles and weighed at least 3 kilograms. With a deep tub floor. When I was a poor student tramper we could only get access to an Olympus as the university tramping club had bought a few and we could borrow them. Once, quite a few years ago, on a transalpine tramp in Westland, three of us spent a couple of days above the bushline in slushy snow in an Olympus waiting for the westerly fronts to clear. The feet of our sleeping bags were very quickly wet with condensation due to the inner sagging at the foot end of the tent. That also used to happen in fine weather. On the second day, the outer fly had sagged a bit from the wind gusts and began to touch the inner. Then the inner became wet to touch and brought more condensation inside. Otherwise the Olympus always felt solid and safe shelter from the storm. Those Victoria University of Wellington Tramping club Macpac Olympus tents had a pretty hard life as they were in constant demand! I would love to find out how long they lasted!
I have Nallo 3, GT, which performed awesomely in Scottish highlands. Hiked Norway and Sweden with it. The weight / size was fantastic. Enough space to unpack without everything being is a huge pile. We were two. Great tents.
Haters love to hate.. Its all about input opinion and constructive criticism.. I have learned so much from these fine people posting their in field experiences...
Hi Abbie I have a Tarra. I think it is a fantastic tent. I dont have any problem with condensation. The ventilation in the Tarra is second to none. The only cons are the price and the weight. The tent has stood in horrific winds when it wasn't safe to be outside. The tent stood like a limpet. A friends tent snapped the pole and wripped his tent lucky i was there as he moved in for shelter. I would love a akto but i am left handed which ment the tent is not so good for me. I might get a Soulo next. I am not a snob nor do i have any money. I save and buy the best that is out there. I love camping and a Hilleberg keeps you safe and you know it will last you for decades.
Abbie, I have empty pockets because of this video! Seriously, I never thought I would ever move from Tera Nova (I have a Voyager)I've been loyal to the company for years basically because they are local to me (3 mile down the road) and they were some of the best tents in the world but then they moved manufacturing to China and I think the quality has suffered, my 2nd Voyager is not a patch on the Derbyshire made one I had! Also love how the inner goes up with the outer on the Nallo, even though my Voyager has stood up to some foul weather it was like wrestling with a kite in strong winds. These Hilleberg tents really are superb and worth every penny. Thankyou for your superb reviews Abbie.
Hey Abbie thanks for review. I've just received my Nallo 3 today, chose it for a trip to Tasmania I'm doing in April. Just set it up at the park and I like it!! Went for the 3 man as it's for me and partner. I'm considering the Akto for myself in the future. Nice review again!
Good review. Sorry to hear of your condensation issues with the Nallo 2. I am looking for a larger Hilleberg, either a Nallo, or Jannu? I live in a much drier climate than you, but the idea of having condensation issues with an 800+ dollar tent is less than appealing.
Hi Abbie, I have the Anjan 2. This seems very similar in a lot of ways and I use it for my working tent in the summer. I also have the Soulo which I love for my winter camps. Great review. Thanks.
Great review, I was thinking of buying one of these for cycle touring but was a little put off by the extra weight compared to other tents. I can now see it's worth carrying the extra kilo - thanks again.
It depends where you're cycling. If you're cycling to the top of mountains in midwinter, then yes it's worth the extra weight. If you're doing three season cycling then there are plenty of 1kg-ish options that will serve you equally well.
I recognize your struggles with condensation. I've always had quite some condensation in my Anjan 2GT. But as you said, the pros definitely outweigh the cons. Build quality and ease of use is awesome with hilleberg. Also recognized the campsite at Keswick! great campsite at an awesome location!
Thanks for the review Abbie. I love my Nallo 2. Your review helped seal the deal for me. I took my tent into a big 2 day blizzard last year - it held up so well through very strong wind and snow. With the Nallo, I discovered the wisdom of my sister’s maximum: ‘Noone ever said, “I wish I had a smaller vestibule.”’ This is my ‘for life’ tent - worth the investment, BTWSo may mansplainers in the comments here - yikes - I love your channel.
Great review and honesty. I ended up getting a MSR Hubba Hubba NX, very lightweight and still has the headroom to sit up in and just over 1kg in weight which you can reduce for multi day trips by not taking the bags. I used it in the Falkland Islands on a multi trip and stood up to some really bad weather with winds in excess of 50mph and the only thing I had to change were the pegs as they were a tadge bit light and too small to hold the tent. The price was £329!
My Hubba Hubba NX lasted one night in Glen Feshie. Wind tore it to bits and a pole snapped and shredded the fly. That was not a good night. Cascade (MSR) did send me a replacement which I used for a while but with no faith in it. No more MSR tents for me, I’ll stick to Hilleberg, they may be heavier but the peace of mind is well worth it.
Having discovered (and subscribed immediately) your channel only today, I'm a little (very) late to the show, yet I want to thank you for this and many other great reviews. I've owned the old version of the Nallo 2 (with both poles being the same length, thus not a sloping but straight tunnel design) for a little more than twenty years now. While it needed some minor repairs (which I could do myself with Hilleberg's repair kit), I love that tent since I first pitched it (in fact, this is already my second Nallo 2, the first got lost, probably in Heathrow airport). The pegs in my version are less robust than in the current version; I thus added some nail-like ones for harder ground. Apart from that little bug, condensation really is the only problem I have with this tent, just as you describe it. I totally agree on the pros you mention and can confirm it is robust - the most windy night being one at White Horse Hill campground where the storm on New Zealand's west coast dropped down the eastern slopes of the Southern Alps at speeds of more than 100 kph. It was a noisy night with little sleep, but our tent was intact the next morning while others weren't.
I camp along the sierra nevada range, Tetons and even twice in the Wind River area all year round. I only take my Hilleberg during a wet camp or during winter. During dry camps I use a cheaper 3 season mesh tent. I do not understand why someone would use a 4 season (tough) tent during basic camps. I don’t have issues with my Allak but maybe it’s because I use it for what it is designed for? As Petra Hilleberg said in an interview (paraphrasing) “when you have a glass of beer do you blame the glass when condensation appears on the outside? They make great tents it’s why we own them. I really love your work keep it up. 😋
A good review Abbie cheers , I just bought the Nallo 2 last week and i'm looking forward to getting it out when i return home from offshore . Got an Akto aswell which is great ..Fancied something with a bit more room on short trips but the Akto defo for my longer trips.
Great tents but the design is flawed in my opinion hence the condensation problem. It should have a wired rear vent higher up at the rear, the zip base vent is a waste and ineffective. I had both the Nallo GT2 and the Nammatj , the two top vents on the Nammatj is way more effective and can be seen on many other big brands like Fjallraven & Nordisk etc for good reason. Atb A
Hey Abbie @3:09 to untangle the guy lines you can just put your hand (the four fingers) between the two guy lines and then rotatet the hand 90 degrees to untangle them. :) Cheers
Nice shelter Abbie. My current one is made from cuben fiber. Very light but also a bit delicate. Same condensation issue. I’m thinking of trying a hammock setup in the near future.
Bloody brilliant and very well explained and angled video so people can get a real feel for this tent 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽🥰 Btw what height are you? I’m 6’2” and was thinking of maybe getting the Nallo 3 hmm what do you think?
I have been using the Nallo 3 GT for a while now. Have not noticed any more condensation than other tents i have used. There is often a bit of condensation on the inside of the outer tent in the morning, but what comparable tent doesn't have this? And the inner tent, and my sleeping bag has been dry and comfy.
A great "follow up" review after what I suspect has been a great deal of use. Clearly this is a good tent (despite / inspite of the condensation issues) BUT for me the price point puts it out of reach. Aaahhhhh! (sad face - still trying to work out how to add emotions!)
Abbie, what influenced your colour choice please? I have a red Nallo 2 and I love the cheeriness of it. Being tent-bound is no fun, and red seemed a good compromise for those days.
To be honest, sometimes, yes. But campsites have CCTV and are usually pretty safe. Plus, I usually leave some stinky socks about and who wants to steal them!!
Abbie, thanks for a great review. I am curious, could you describe the issues you had with condensation a little more? Are you speaking of condensation on the inside surface of the rain fly (green fabric), or the yellow inner fabric actually getting wet from condensation? Thanks again!
Macpac Olympus is 3.4 kilos but a much bigger tent and I had no issues with condensation in winter wild camping in the high peaks of the UK and summer camping too.
You are awesome!! Love your content!! And thank you for the great review on all the tents! This particular tent I love. I’m the COLD winter months, is condensation still a problem? I only see this as a winter tent
I could have missed something here, but condensation is close connected to what surface the tent is put on. If it is grass, that gets wet during the nights, it is a good advice to use a dedicated footprint or tarp under the tent. Tried that? I have the dedicated footprint to my Allak. Before that I have used tarps under various tents. It works! Very nice video, review and presentation! All the best.
Abbie Barnes | Song Thrush Productions Great! You will experience improvement then. Would be very interesting to see what you think with a follow up on this. And I need to hike a lot more 😂😀 All the best!
Yes - I understand you. However, the tent already weighs 2.4kg, and the extra 400gms takes the tent to 2.8kg. Over 3kg with a night of rain/condensation. Does it really work THAT well?
@@IAmNotA.12345 i can tell You it works, however i understand that weight is an issue and that every gram reduced are desired. As Abby have mentioned, that she doesn't want to add 400 grams. (Read it somewhere at her most interesting videos). So my tip on that is to be more careful with where you choose to pitch your tent. The dryer spot, the better. Look for a spot with less risks for morning dew. A UCO candle lantern reduces condensation as well. But that is weight as well even if it's cosy. Last weekend I put my Allak on a flat rock. No Condensation what so ever even if it rained during the night, a perfect surface to pitch such a tent as Allak.
Cool review , quality tent. However unless you are camping on the North face of the Eiger . I would run with the Naturehike alternatives at a fraction of the price... Its the fine balance of function and Brand quality... Example Naturehike cloud up 2....... 1.2kg.. Works and is roubust...
question: When you say condensation is an issue do you also get wet inside the inner tent itself or does it remain on the outside? I noticed you mentioned this with the akto as well but never really pictured completely how big problems it is
I've got an older version of this tent, but also experience problems with condensation. For me, it's only on the outer tent. The only times when water got to the inner tent (and to my sleeping bag :() was when I didn't pitch the tent properly and the outer tent touched the inner. Of course, I didn't notice that in the evening and thus had a little problem in the morning...
I was under the impression that the tunnel design, venting and dual layer was that it reduced condensation to a large extent. this is just the regular Nallo and not the GT model? If yes then it looks like more room than I was thinking the standard Nallo had.
I think you are correct Bush Channel. I have a Vango Hydra 200 which I have had for years, I use a footprint and the fly is just a tad short of the ground, no issues with condensation in the tent. Puts me off spending £550 to £800 on a tent with those issues.
A really good review, many thanks. What are your thoughts on the Akto as a 1 person wild camping tent? Worth the money? Hilleberg are great tents but they are so expensive!
The tent having only the front open there is limited air flow. This is why you have condensation issues. If the wind is blowing the right way it might be okay but a tent needs an open flow of air like the Allak. Not an issue in certain climates. You might look at the possibility of lifting the side panel in the middle of the sides to let air into the bottom. Common issue with fully covered tents. The ends can be left open all the time. water won't get in.
Hello, I wouldn't personally cook in any tent or the vestibule. The danger of melting your tent fabric, fire, or carbon monoxide is real. Also the smells of cooking can linger in the tent fabric and attract animals. We own the Hilleberg Rogen and have used the Nallo 3GT for many years and always cook outside the tent, even in our Northern Canadian Rockies.
Let me guess it costs £1700 , don’t buy hilleberg until they lower there prices back down its a shame as I love them , nallo gt 2 3 years ago cost me £650 now £960 !! Why oh why no design difference costs of materials haven’t gone up that much . Human greed is disgusting
I have seen the exact same post on another channel. Check the Hilleberg site for prices before speculating. It’s actually less than half of your guess (Jan 2021)
Hilleberg is the Porsche of tents. There is nothing it cannot withstand. And it will endure tens of years of use. Cannot say the same for many other brands. I own freestanding Unna in addition to Nallo 2 and they are best investments I ever made. The condensation is really not a huge issue as it stays on the outer only. It's a matter of wiping it clean at morning using a wettex cloth. Takes only couple of minutes before packing. The best part of this tent is that in rainy weather: 1. You can leave the inner hooked while packing 2. You can leave the tent poles in their sleeves when packing. Just break them at specific points. 3. Roll up the tent so that the outer faces outside (3-section fold). When pitching again, throw the tent by olling it on the ground, connect the break points of the poles (that were already in place), peg the four corners ... and in heavy rain your shelter is up in ONE minute. The guylines can be adjusted later.
Best review of this tent I have ever seen! Great job!
Thanks for the review - I just bought one and it's good to see your video to underline all the qualities of the tent. Happy Trails!
Great review thx! I have used a Nallo 2gt for five years now and have not had any problems with condensation.
Just bought a Nallo 2... ready for my South West Coast Path trip in May 2021 (doing the whole 630 miles). Abbie's videos kind of helped me make the decision - so thanks for that!
Any condensation issues?
@@PatrickPierceBateman Couldn't tell you yet... thanks to CV19 I've not had a chance to use my tent yet.
I've done a couple of trial erections (no sniggering in class, please!) and it does seem to have lots of venting options, so I've got high hopes for it.
Great review. I have the Nallo 2GT and really love the bigger vestibule, using it for two. Re the condensation issue, a major solution is going to be to get a footprint for it. Most of the condensation will come from the transpiration from the grass, especially in the vestibule area. I have ordered a footprint for the 2GT.
Thanks for the update and the initial review. I have watched both. Yeah, it looks like a great tent. The Nallo 2 reminds me a lot of the Macpac Olympus tent, except the Nallo is 0.5 or 0.6 kilograms lighter and seems to have much better (but still not perfect) venting to try to deal with condensation. Weight of 2.4 kilograms seems great! The Olympus had 3 hooped poles and weighed at least 3 kilograms. With a deep tub floor. When I was a poor student tramper we could only get access to an Olympus as the university tramping club had bought a few and we could borrow them. Once, quite a few years ago, on a transalpine tramp in Westland, three of us spent a couple of days above the bushline in slushy snow in an Olympus waiting for the westerly fronts to clear. The feet of our sleeping bags were very quickly wet with condensation due to the inner sagging at the foot end of the tent. That also used to happen in fine weather. On the second day, the outer fly had sagged a bit from the wind gusts and began to touch the inner. Then the inner became wet to touch and brought more condensation inside. Otherwise the Olympus always felt solid and safe shelter from the storm. Those Victoria University of Wellington Tramping club Macpac Olympus tents had a pretty hard life as they were in constant demand! I would love to find out how long they lasted!
Nice presentation,great video,thanks for sharing your review.
I have Nallo 3, GT, which performed awesomely in Scottish highlands. Hiked Norway and Sweden with it. The weight / size was fantastic. Enough space to unpack without everything being is a huge pile. We were two. Great tents.
There’s always one clown that puts thumbs down , great vid great presenter
Sad times. Thanks for watching!
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You are mistaken, it's her Jamaican fans clicking "Dis I Like". 😁
Hi, what a geat review ! About the condensation: it will help a lot if you cover the ground in the vestibule with a groundsheet. Cheers.
Exactly
Hi Abbie I have a Tarra. I think it is a fantastic tent. I dont have any problem with condensation. The ventilation in the Tarra is second to none. The only cons are the price and the weight. The tent has stood in horrific winds when it wasn't safe to be outside. The tent stood like a limpet. A friends tent snapped the pole and wripped his tent lucky i was there as he moved in for shelter. I would love a akto but i am left handed which ment the tent is not so good for me. I might get a Soulo next. I am not a snob nor do i have any money. I save and buy the best that is out there. I love camping and a Hilleberg keeps you safe and you know it will last you for decades.
WONDERING WHY - I definitely recommend the Soulo.
Best review for Nallo i have seen so far. Thank You.
Abbie, I have empty pockets because of this video! Seriously, I never thought I would ever move from Tera Nova (I have a Voyager)I've been loyal to the company for years basically because they are local to me (3 mile down the road) and they were some of the best tents in the world but then they moved manufacturing to China and I think the quality has suffered, my 2nd Voyager is not a patch on the Derbyshire made one I had! Also love how the inner goes up with the outer on the Nallo, even though my Voyager has stood up to some foul weather it was like wrestling with a kite in strong winds. These Hilleberg tents really are superb and worth every penny. Thankyou for your superb reviews Abbie.
Hey Abbie thanks for review. I've just received my Nallo 3 today, chose it for a trip to Tasmania I'm doing in April. Just set it up at the park and I like it!! Went for the 3 man as it's for me and partner. I'm considering the Akto for myself in the future. Nice review again!
Wow! Enjoy!!
Good review. Sorry to hear of your condensation issues with the Nallo 2. I am looking for a larger Hilleberg, either a Nallo, or Jannu? I live in a much drier climate than you, but the idea of having condensation issues with an 800+ dollar tent is less than appealing.
Hi Abbie, I have the Anjan 2. This seems very similar in a lot of ways and I use it for my working tent in the summer. I also have the Soulo which I love for my winter camps. Great review. Thanks.
Great review, I was thinking of buying one of these for cycle touring but was a little put off by the extra weight compared to other tents. I can now see it's worth carrying the extra kilo - thanks again.
It depends where you're cycling. If you're cycling to the top of mountains in midwinter, then yes it's worth the extra weight. If you're doing three season cycling then there are plenty of 1kg-ish options that will serve you equally well.
@@darthkek1953 Examples of 1kg tents with such a nice vestibule and that fits 2 people comfortably? I am looking to buy a new tent soon.
@@jeppeporsing8479 TarpTent do a huge range, and the Dan Durston X-Mid 2 is another option.
I recognize your struggles with condensation. I've always had quite some condensation in my Anjan 2GT. But as you said, the pros definitely outweigh the cons. Build quality and ease of use is awesome with hilleberg. Also recognized the campsite at Keswick! great campsite at an awesome location!
Sorry you have the same issue! Seems to be very common!
Thanks for the review Abbie. I love my Nallo 2. Your review helped seal the deal for me. I took my tent into a big 2 day blizzard last year - it held up so well through very strong wind and snow. With the Nallo, I discovered the wisdom of my sister’s maximum: ‘Noone ever said, “I wish I had a smaller vestibule.”’ This is my ‘for life’ tent - worth the investment, BTWSo may mansplainers in the comments here - yikes - I love your channel.
Great review and honesty. I ended up getting a MSR Hubba Hubba NX, very lightweight and still has the headroom to sit up in and just over 1kg in weight which you can reduce for multi day trips by not taking the bags. I used it in the Falkland Islands on a multi trip and stood up to some really bad weather with winds in excess of 50mph and the only thing I had to change were the pegs as they were a tadge bit light and too small to hold the tent. The price was £329!
It's funny as it seems people either go for the Nallo or Hubba! Never actually used a Hubba before - would like to check them out! Sounds ace though!
Abbie Barnes | Song Thrush Productions if I was in the UK you could have used mine.
My Hubba Hubba NX lasted one night in Glen Feshie. Wind tore it to bits and a pole snapped and shredded the fly. That was not a good night. Cascade (MSR) did send me a replacement which I used for a while but with no faith in it. No more MSR tents for me, I’ll stick to Hilleberg, they may be heavier but the peace of mind is well worth it.
i used the nallo2 for over 20years backpacking around europe in all weather,best tent ever
Having discovered (and subscribed immediately) your channel only today, I'm a little (very) late to the show, yet I want to thank you for this and many other great reviews. I've owned the old version of the Nallo 2 (with both poles being the same length, thus not a sloping but straight tunnel design) for a little more than twenty years now. While it needed some minor repairs (which I could do myself with Hilleberg's repair kit), I love that tent since I first pitched it (in fact, this is already my second Nallo 2, the first got lost, probably in Heathrow airport). The pegs in my version are less robust than in the current version; I thus added some nail-like ones for harder ground. Apart from that little bug, condensation really is the only problem I have with this tent, just as you describe it. I totally agree on the pros you mention and can confirm it is robust - the most windy night being one at White Horse Hill campground where the storm on New Zealand's west coast dropped down the eastern slopes of the Southern Alps at speeds of more than 100 kph. It was a noisy night with little sleep, but our tent was intact the next morning while others weren't.
I camp along the sierra nevada range, Tetons and even twice in the Wind River area all year round. I only take my Hilleberg during a wet camp or during winter. During dry camps I use a cheaper 3 season mesh tent. I do not understand why someone would use a 4 season (tough) tent during basic camps. I don’t have issues with my Allak but maybe it’s because I use it for what it is designed for? As Petra Hilleberg said in an interview (paraphrasing) “when you have a glass of beer do you blame the glass when condensation appears on the outside? They make great tents it’s why we own them. I really love your work keep it up. 😋
How could anyone give Abbie’s work a thumbs down? Oh well .... you are always going to experience negativity! I enjoyed the review.
Thanks Abbie, a worthwhile video.
A good review Abbie cheers , I just bought the Nallo 2 last week and i'm looking forward to getting it out when i return home from offshore . Got an Akto aswell which is great ..Fancied something with a bit more room on short trips but the Akto defo for my longer trips.
Snap! Sounds like you've got an ace set up :)
I'm going for a Soulo. My Nallo 2 is brilliant, as @Abbie Barnes has said.
Hey, Abbie! Those "little stick things" are usually called "toggles."
Hope this helps.
Thank you for your videos. I enjoy them greatly.
Clever ain't ya
Great review also cool that you showed the filming inside
Great tents but the design is flawed in my opinion hence the condensation problem. It should have a wired rear vent higher up at the rear, the zip base vent is a waste and ineffective. I had both the Nallo GT2 and the Nammatj , the two top vents on the Nammatj is way more effective and can be seen on many other big brands like Fjallraven & Nordisk etc for good reason. Atb A
Hey Abbie @3:09 to untangle the guy lines you can just put your hand (the four fingers) between the two guy lines and then rotatet the hand 90 degrees to untangle them. :)
Cheers
Nice shelter Abbie. My current one is made from cuben fiber. Very light but also a bit delicate. Same condensation issue. I’m thinking of trying a hammock setup in the near future.
Interesting stuff!
Nice video. Although you did the same mistake as in the Akto-video. It's Kerlon 1200. You added a zero! :)
Ah condensation. Same as in the Akto. I've just had to learn to live with it. Thanks for sharing with Si
Thanks for watching!
At the price they charge there shouldn’t be a condensation problem. 😲
@@HardyBunster location location
Thanks
nice vid. Another great and honest review!
Thanks for watching!
Bloody brilliant and very well explained and angled video so people can get a real feel for this tent 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽🥰
Btw what height are you? I’m 6’2” and was thinking of maybe getting the Nallo 3 hmm what do you think?
You need to use the footprint mate. The condensation is a massive issue with any tent without it.
I have been using the Nallo 3 GT for a while now. Have not noticed any more condensation than other tents i have used. There is often a bit of condensation on the inside of the outer tent in the morning, but what comparable tent doesn't have this? And the inner tent, and my sleeping bag has been dry and comfy.
Great video, thanks
A great "follow up" review after what I suspect has been a great deal of use. Clearly this is a good tent (despite / inspite of the condensation issues) BUT for me the price point puts it out of reach. Aaahhhhh! (sad face - still trying to work out how to add emotions!)
Yes the price really is huge! I was gifted this tent, otherwise I would only dream!!
Abbie, what influenced your colour choice please? I have a red Nallo 2 and I love the cheeriness of it. Being tent-bound is no fun, and red seemed a good compromise for those days.
Green just works for me :) And useful for wild camping!
Hi you say you make this a base camp and leave it while exploring. Don’t you worry about leaving a very expensive, sought after tent for the day?
To be honest, sometimes, yes. But campsites have CCTV and are usually pretty safe. Plus, I usually leave some stinky socks about and who wants to steal them!!
Abbie, thanks for a great review. I am curious, could you describe the issues you had with condensation a little more? Are you speaking of condensation on the inside surface of the rain fly (green fabric), or the yellow inner fabric actually getting wet from condensation? Thanks again!
Thanks for the comment. Yes, on the inside of the green which then drops onto the yellow and sometime if it is really heavy seeps through.
Thanks Abbie!
Macpac Olympus is 3.4 kilos but a much bigger tent and I had no issues with condensation in winter wild camping in the high peaks of the UK and summer camping too.
You are awesome!! Love your content!! And thank you for the great review on all the tents! This particular tent I love. I’m the COLD winter months, is condensation still a problem? I only see this as a winter tent
Not quite as much but yes, still quite condensation-y!
You're only going to have condensation when it's cold, bud.
I could have missed something here, but condensation is close connected to what surface the tent is put on. If it is grass, that gets wet during the nights, it is a good advice to use a dedicated footprint or tarp under the tent. Tried that? I have the dedicated footprint to my Allak. Before that I have used tarps under various tents. It works! Very nice video, review and presentation! All the best.
Mattias Eriksson I agree
This is great. Yes, you are right it does factor in and if Im honest, which I hope to be nothing else, I haven't tried it! So, game on!!
Abbie Barnes | Song Thrush Productions Great! You will experience improvement then. Would be very interesting to see what you think with a follow up on this. And I need to hike a lot more 😂😀 All the best!
Yes - I understand you. However, the tent already weighs 2.4kg, and the extra 400gms takes the tent to 2.8kg. Over 3kg with a night of rain/condensation. Does it really work THAT well?
@@IAmNotA.12345 i can tell You it works, however i understand that weight is an issue and that every gram reduced are desired. As Abby have mentioned, that she doesn't want to add 400 grams. (Read it somewhere at her most interesting videos). So my tip on that is to be more careful with where you choose to pitch your tent. The dryer spot, the better. Look for a spot with less risks for morning dew. A UCO candle lantern reduces condensation as well. But that is weight as well even if it's cosy. Last weekend I put my Allak on a flat rock. No Condensation what so ever even if it rained during the night, a perfect surface to pitch such a tent as Allak.
Cool review , quality tent. However unless you are camping on the North face of the Eiger . I would run with the Naturehike alternatives at a fraction of the price... Its the fine balance of function and Brand quality... Example Naturehike cloud up 2....... 1.2kg.. Works and is roubust...
I hope your on commission Abbie, that's another one sold because of your reviews, great job !
Haha, afraid not, but enjoy your tent!!
@@AbbieBarnesWILD Just subbed so I will certainly let you know 😊
do you still use the Tarra?
Where were you camping in the Lake District? What is your recommended low level day hike in the Lake District? Thanks Abbie.
I stayed at Castlerigg Farm camp site. Cool place. Very chilled/ Low level, hit the lakes or maybe venture up to some tarns.
Abbie Barnes | Song Thrush Productions
Abbie. Thanks for the advice on low level walks. Looking forward to our trip to Kendal. Your videos are great.
if you used this with the Nallo 2 footprint you would notice significantly lower condensation
question: When you say condensation is an issue do you also get wet inside the inner tent itself or does it remain on the outside? I noticed you mentioned this with the akto as well but never really pictured completely how big problems it is
Inner and outer :)
I've got an older version of this tent, but also experience problems with condensation. For me, it's only on the outer tent. The only times when water got to the inner tent (and to my sleeping bag :() was when I didn't pitch the tent properly and the outer tent touched the inner. Of course, I didn't notice that in the evening and thus had a little problem in the morning...
I was under the impression that the tunnel design, venting and dual layer was that it reduced condensation to a large extent. this is just the regular Nallo and not the GT model? If yes then it looks like more room than I was thinking the standard Nallo had.
Phil Ward I think it would get condensation because the outer shell is touching the ground.
I think you are correct Bush Channel. I have a Vango Hydra 200 which I have had for years, I use a footprint and the fly is just a tad short of the ground, no issues with condensation in the tent. Puts me off spending £550 to £800 on a tent with those issues.
A really good review, many thanks. What are your thoughts on the Akto as a 1 person wild camping tent? Worth the money? Hilleberg are great tents but they are so expensive!
Absolutely. I use it wild camping all the time. The colour is discreet, its low, light, and everything else. Really great tent.
Thanks Abbie, really appreciate your reply. Guess I need to get saving! Simon :)
This is cool if your life style and livelihood is hiking / camping .... but what about something sensibly priced for the occasional walker / hiker ?
Great video as always. Is that Castlerigg farm campsite your at
Sure is! You know it?
I travel from newcastle to camp here a few times a year
Have nallo 3gt since many years, and barely noticed any condensation at all.
Nice video Abbie. I don't think its Kerlon 12,000. More like 1200.
Thank you Abbie. I am in the market for a tent and this could be a contender. Is the external sock hanger an optional extra? 👍🤔😁
Hahaha, all personal taste!!
I reckon the condensation issue is caused because the outer shell is touching the ground.
I think that is part of it yes, as there is therefore less ventilation. Thanks for the comment!
Hi Abbie.
How do you think this tent will perform in hot weather. We are planning a trip to Africa and is the one we are looking to buy
Great channel
email Hilleberg, they were very helpful with advice on all sorts of environments for their tents.
Currently finding it hard to justify the cost of a Hilleberg
The tent having only the front open there is limited air flow. This is why you have condensation issues. If the wind is blowing the right way it might be okay but a tent needs an open flow of air like the Allak. Not an issue in certain climates.
You might look at the possibility of lifting the side panel in the middle of the sides to let air into the bottom. Common issue with fully covered tents. The ends can be left open all the time. water won't get in.
You do realise you can buy a summer mesh inner tent don’t you
use a footprint, it helps with the condensation issue.
Not light to carry though!
make one out of tyvek@@AbbieBarnesWILD
Ventilation really isn't a thing in the UK is it. :)
Is it the gt version?
GT?
There is the nallo 2gt, the kaitum 2gt and the namatj 2gt.
No, the gt version has a much bigger porch.
Kerlon 1200, not 12,000. Sorry, but just for accuracy 😏
toddle is the 'stick thing. :)
Excelent review. Bit pricey though.
I didnt pay for the review.
£800 for poor design = condensation. 2.4 kg - there are lighter tents out there that will do the same job and not suffer condensation as much
Hi, which would you suggest? I'd like a new tent for 2021 and would appreciate any suggestions. Matt
Maybe you need a lighter tent for summer?
Well, summer is a myth here usually!!
£800 ! That can't be right ?
3x silicone is 3 times the stuff you should not bring to nature. Very poor decay in silicones, any abrasion will remain a long time in nature.
£860. I stopped right there.
Hello, I wouldn't personally cook in any tent or the vestibule. The danger of melting your tent fabric, fire, or carbon monoxide is real. Also the smells of cooking can linger in the tent fabric and attract animals. We own the Hilleberg Rogen and have used the Nallo 3GT for many years and always cook outside the tent, even in our Northern Canadian Rockies.
Nice feet 🦶
Let me guess it costs £1700 , don’t buy hilleberg until they lower there prices back down its a shame as I love them , nallo gt 2 3 years ago cost me £650 now £960 !! Why oh why no design difference costs of materials haven’t gone up that much . Human greed is disgusting
I have seen the exact same post on another channel. Check the Hilleberg site for prices before speculating. It’s actually less than half of your guess (Jan 2021)
Hilleberg is the Porsche of tents. There is nothing it cannot withstand. And it will endure tens of years of use. Cannot say the same for many other brands.
I own freestanding Unna in addition to Nallo 2 and they are best investments I ever made.
The condensation is really not a huge issue as it stays on the outer only. It's a matter of wiping it clean at morning using a wettex cloth. Takes only couple of minutes before packing.
The best part of this tent is that in rainy weather:
1. You can leave the inner hooked while packing
2. You can leave the tent poles in their sleeves when packing. Just break them at specific points.
3. Roll up the tent so that the outer faces outside (3-section fold). When pitching again, throw the tent by olling it on the ground, connect the break points of the poles (that were already in place), peg the four corners ... and in heavy rain your shelter is up in ONE minute. The guylines can be adjusted later.
This tent is so over priced.