Surface Pen Alternatives Comparison Review
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- The Windows tablet styluses compared are Adonit Ink, Adonit Ink Pro, Pac Dot S Pen, Wacom Bamboo Ink and the Microsoft Surface Pen.
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0:41 Design and features
7:58 Handwriting test
11:42 Drawing test
16:02 Conclusion
Thank you so much for these amazingly detailed videos. You give us so much context. I really appreciate the hard work that you do! I only wish I could draw with the kind of ease that you.
Welcome 😁
I've tested the surface Pen in store. It also works on HP, DELL & ASUS computers. It doesn't work with Lenovo or Samsung computers because they use a different protocol than the Surface Pen.
Thanks for the info
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Just found that out today when I took the risk and bought it for my HP Envy x360
@@DoseOfNik does the surface pen work wih envy ?
@@prothicc1092 yeah it does
The Surface Pen is worth it purely because of how it feels when writing. Doesn't have that annoying tapping sound that other pens have
tanks a lot. this is what i was looking for.
You're freaking awesome! This is extremely useful, I don't know why people don't give such reviews given 2-in-1 laptops are a norm now! Thank you very much! :)
Thanks for the comparison video. I recently bought a Dell Inspiron 5482 and I think I will pair it with the Adonit Ink. I think I will use it mostly for note taking and photo editing. The Bamboo would be my second choice.
Just ordered mine based in large part because of your review. Thank you!!!
Wich one was it?
This was a damn good review. One of the best I have seen for this type of review. Seeing I am thinking of getting a Surface Book 2 15" screen for both me and my GF, this was very informative, and makes me want to get it even more now, with the pen made for it. The one thing I don't like about the Surface Pen is the back eraser. I prefer it to be on the side, so I don't have to twirl my pen around a lot wile drawing. I do a lot of erasing. But overall, for me quality is of higher priority, so for that alone, to me the Surface Pen wins me over for use with the Surface Book 2.
Thank you for your review. I am sold on it. ^.^
glenfoxh I believe that the Surface pen replicates a mechanical pencil or erasable pen perfectly with that design but to each their own
i'm running a pac dot, works perfectly for note talking, and if you want a more rubbery tip, they sell other tips as well
As an artist, I own both the Surface Pen and Bamboo Ink. I can safely say, the Bamboo Ink when drawing, absolutely *annihilates* the competition. Including the surface pen.
When drawing slowly, much of the jitters and wobbly lines actually comes from your tiny hand moves that the pens pick up. Usually due to imperfections in the movement or different position of your hand on the screen, as well as the angle you are drawing at.
For slow, precise drawing movements, this is where stabilizers come in. Any major software like Photoshop or Manga Studio, provide brush stabilizing options in different intensities. And I have to say, the Bamboo is easily the best one, especially when detecting different pressures levels since it has a far bigger pressure range (4,096) compared to the surface pen (256 or 1024).
the new surface pen has also 4096 lvls
huh? Microsoft pen also has 4096 pressure levels.
edit; nvm supposedly the pro 6 used diff connections now so it's no longer compatible with the bamboo ink -.- just made the tablet so not worth paying extra than a similar tablet from a similar wacom tablet to it... and so bummed that microsoft are that desperate for money they'd rather cut off certain pens just so you have to buy their pen, but then kinda means I wouldn't have likely bought this tablet in first place so to make 100 extra they would actually lose out on a few thousand 'shrugs' but then microsoft think that way, oh well i'll keep looking sigh
ty for this feedback/review on the vid about the bamboo ink vs surface pen. I just got the surface pro 6 myself for drawing and graphic design, and I thought the surface pen would do, but yeh good to know it's not just me that feels it as being not good when I finally got to try it with my programs. Everyone in my family keep looking at me like i'm weird when I keep saying that the pen just doesn't feel right even when holding it and weight etc, let alone draw well (I've been drawing with wacom tablets for years now and it feels nothing like them lol) and it just hasn't been easy finding the right pen that is going to suit best for those needs specifically. And all the reviews i've found, like this video(which is best so far i've found tho) have all been done without any real info of it from an artist's perspective, so thanks as good to know from another artist that the bamboo ink is definitely the way to go. But also blew my mind away how expensive the surface pen is COMPARED to the bamboo ink even though it seems to be nowhere near as good, and I'm finding that more and more with the accessories I've had to buy for the surface -.- like the keyboard and mouse... and none are worth going with the surface specific stuff as it's all lower quality but they charge more... guess that's microsoft for you...
Also for 140.00 i couldn't believe the surface pen was still not rechargeable, but not sure if theres something similar to the bamboo ink that may be rechargeable but with how much it is compared i don't mind it being batteries lol
@@meviesperandote i checked the website for the ones that it is compatible with and every model except 6 was listed but I can't remember if 5 was but from memory it was just 6 not shown(but still go and check the wacom website just in case) and it wasn't due to it being 'newer' compared to others so maybe not added yet, as i looked it up and a lot of articles were saying it no longer worked because microsoft now changed something so only 'surface' pens are compatible and it uses some fancy type of connection so only their products will connect... essentially so you're forced to pay 100 for a pen and 250(as the 150 ones are now not compatible with it as tried that and its 4 not 6 pin) and yeh they keep shooting themselves in the foot because i mean ppl use it for graphic design and digital art and y i bought it, and not hacing the option for the wacom pen with more pressure sensitivity was a deal killer... so to make an extra 200 they ended up losing 2000+ sale 'shrugs'.
Don't quote me tho as can only go off articles and the wacom website and haven't bought the pen myself to try it at that price... and I ended up trading the surface out for a much better model from hp that runs way better and seem to compatible with all bluetooth stuff so hoping it works w the pen as going to order it soon.
I was like "The Bamboo is going to be epic!" Then it got a bad review. Thank you for clarifying because I was certain the wobbly lines came from the software he was using.
Thanks, Teoh! Wonderfully useful information!
Thanks 😁
Good vid, man. This helped me narrow down a replacement pen for use on my Microsoft Go tablet. Looks like Bamboo is the pen for me.
🖊👍🏼😎
nice video, i wasnt sure which stylus i should get cuz im a noob to this but now i know :)
Very informative video! Thank you!
Thank you very much for the video! I just got a Surface Pro and i have never used one before. I thought i came with the pen so i didnt know what to get at first.
I was really hoping the Wocom Bambo ink would do better as everyone keeps talking about it, and it is significantly cheaper than the offical surface pen. One thing i did notice that you didnt mention in the video is that the Surface pen seemed to have the lease latency out of all the pens. During the handwriting section it almost seemed to be instantaneous.
What pen to use for a surface pro 2, i lost mine and i can’t find it😭
Great, helpful video. Detailed 👏
My AAAA battery lasted over a year when I was backpacking through asia and drawing every day! This was on the tablet pen that is sold by Microsoft. I actually didn't even know it came with a battery until it ran out maybe a year and a half or two years after I first got it.
same !! it has more durability! i love the surface pen too.
which type of device where you using to test these pens, if you dont mind me asking?
this video is really good for looking at the touch performance of these pens, thank you for showing such. hopefully i can find more like it for more samples.
heres a ranking table (from best to worst) on what it seems these pens are best used for (*with their default nibs/tips) from what was shown in the video on this microsoft surface device:
Writing (fast) | Drawing (slow)
1. Adonit INK | 1. Surface Pen
2. Surface Pen | 2. Adonit INK
3. Wacom Bamboo INK | 3. Adonit INK Pro
4. Adonit INK Pro | 4. Pac Dot S
5. Pac Dot S | 5. Wacom Bamboo INK
I hope that you will explain the features st the top of the touchscreen. I am totally new to this!
You're giving some pretty good alternatives to the Raphael 850 stylus. Very helpful. I bought a Surface pro 7 for digital painting. The mouse is very clumsy, need a stylus. Thank you.
One major advantage of the Wacom Bamboo Ink is that it works with both N-trig (like Surface) and Wacom AES (like many Yoga laptops) if you were prone to switching machines.
So if I get a bamboo, it will work on my surface pro 4 and my note 9? Im looking to replace my surface pen and if this one supports both, that would be killer!
@@AMalas The Samsung Note uses Wacom EMR rather than Wacom AES.
Really Great Review... One thing I'm so curious is that how comfortable each of them in the hand. and also my experience with some real inked pen is that the thickness of body and the tip influences the hand writing
Great video. Thanks very much.
Thanks for the video! Was the Surface pen you used the latest model that comes in other color options?
It's the Surface Pen from 2017. They did not update it for the 2018 Surface Pro. Yeah, it comes in different colours but colour selection is limited.
Great review
Thank you!
Hi, which pens are compatible with a Lenovo laptop?
Its interesting it seems the Surface pro screens work better with MS surface pens. The Wacom can certainly draw straighter lines at that speed on a Bamboo tablet or Cintinq, but is all over the place on a surface screen.
I'm using a Corst pen on a Chinese laptop using the same screen as the Surface Pro, but get glittery lines with it similar to the Pac Dot. Thank goodness MS have reduced the price of their pens recently, I'll be definitely getting one. Thanks for your insights.
Thank you for this video, needed this!!
Y’all wanna compare tips ?!?!? 😂
Why all the reviewer don't know what they are doing!
I’ll show you mine if you show me yours
Do you have tested the "Kimwood Microsoft Surface Pen Pro" too?
Microsoft Pen when used for handwritten notes in OneNote the eraser end is really nice for quick corrections on the fly. I only wish MS Surface Pen still had a pocket clip on the pen. Like to have keep the pen in my work shirt pocket.
You could sew a piece of metal in your pocket for it to magnet too
Will these work on an acer spin 1, 2 in 1? I just purchased one and it didnt come with a stylus. Please answer.
Excellent comparison of all of these. 👍 😄 In depth and very helpful as always. Thanks Teoh.
You're certainly right about nib pens like Sharpie and other technical pens wearing down and making funky lines after a while. However I still keep a Sharpie pen handy for writing. It makes my penmanship very neat and tidy.
*_Thanks Teoh_*
That diagonal jitter test very obviously shows the inadequacies of the pens. You could see the actual tip and stroke you made were smooth and the line snaked behind. Great test, very useful, thank you.
Surface Pen seems to take the win, but for a more cheaper option I would go with the Adonit Ink
Thanks for the value tips - I have one question Do they work with powerpoint on regular desktop pc to write notes while doing a live presentation ? ie( over the existing slide to add emphasis to the presentation)
thanks for your help
These are made for tablets and phones. They will not work well on touchscreen laptops or other types of displays.
Is the Adonit Stylus Pen Note Black similar work for Surface Go?
Will this work on my touch screen laptop?
Which one of them doesn't have the 2.11 minutes problem?
i want to buy a samsung tab s5e but i do not know if this can be used in this tablet...
Thanks a lot. One question, is sp 5 and sp 6 use the same techniques for reading writings? I just need a stylus that compitable with sp6 to take note. Definitely not going to spend a fortune on the pen.
Yes if we are talking about the same software
Hi I purchased hp pavilion x360 (14-dh1007ne) but the stock pen response is not adequate,can you suggest an alternative
Do these work with all windows active devices? Have an HP tablet
Do you prefer the adonit ink over the Wacom Bamboo? 😊 Hope you can help me pick!
can they work with legular tablets? like mine thinkpad 8
can I use the Adonit Ink on my lenovo ideapad flex 5?
You said palm rejection depends on the pen....Did I hear that right or does it depend on the screen / surface of the laptop/tablet?
Depends on the pen, the tablet and sometimes even the software used.
Do they also have the magnets?
What pen can I use to surface go 2?
Can I use the surface pen?
is all of that pen is using N-Trig based technology ?
I have a old R1F from Asus. And still today, with the 4-5x iteration of thier Surface Pen etc.. the feel and speed of the pen notes are shit compared with my old R1F. I don't get it. I haven't tried the Apple pen yet, but I believe it's the only experience that is actually acceptable.
Subbed!
By the way, please put links to products so that you can get a little credit when we decide to buy em.
Keep it up!
Thanks. Just added the links
Amazon US affiliate links:
Adonit Ink: amzn.to/2rzTaFP
Pac Dot S Pen: amzn.to/2EmRwPt
Wacom Bamboo Ink: amzn.to/2rAuSLG
Microsoft Surface Pen: amzn.to/2EinrjX
can anyone tell me if any of this pens is compatible with the surface pro 3?
I'm just getting into the wonderful world of tablet pens so I don't know all the terminology. What does it mean if a pen has a hot tip?
pretty sure he’s saying Hard tip
does bamboo ink work on surface pro 6?
waiiiit, since they already have pressure sensitivity, do they all work on iPhone X??
No
The issue I'm having with the surface pen, is the pen pressure whenever I'm barely putting any pressure on the pen, and nothing happens.
This makes it pretty difficult for drawing on my Surface Go. I got the Surface Pen Platinum Model 1776 (EYU-00009)
Is there something I'm missing here? Any help is appreciated :)
Try adjusting the pressure settings with the Surface app.
I have two questions you may know the answers to. Can the Staetdler Norris digital jumbo work with the surface pro 6? If not, is it possible to disable Bluetooth on the surface book pro 6 and still use the surface pen? The reason I ask is because I have emf sensitivity
Surface Pro can only work with pens that specifically mention support for Microsoft Surface devices, and Microsoft Pen Protocol (MPP).
Does anyone use the Asus Zenbook Flip 14 UX461UN? Is it compatible with Adonit Ink Pro? Please help me... I'm having trouble searching in an offline store
Hi Teoh! Are these compatible with android phones? Or do you have recommendation for the best stylus for android phones? Thanks.
Not compatible
The Cintiq pen (Wacom Cintiq 22 HD) work on Surface Go?
Doesn't work
Do the other pens also have a magnetic side just like the Surface Pen for attaching to the Surface Pro?
There are no magnets for the other styluses.
I own the Wacom Bamboo Ink stylus; I can and do often stick it to the left side of my Surface Book 2. The magnet is not terribly strong, so it is easy to knock off with a bit of force, but if you are sitting still, it will stay put.
What's the difference between a pen with and without a battery? Which one do you recommend?
If you are buying for a Surface product, go with the Surface Pen for the best performance. Those without battery usually do not have pressure sensitivity and palm rejection.
I missed your videos
can you try huawei Mate 20 X pen?
please please please
i used to have the bamboo ink pen and it had no jitters at all and i used it for art all the time. i find it weird that it worked that way on your tablet. i used it on the hp pavilion x360
Ahhh, maybe I will have the courage to open my Bamboo and see!
Can any of these go into pencil mode and create very light lines for sketching?
There are many ways to create light lines for drawing. Draw as per normal, then reduce the opacity of the lines, or use light coloured lines.
I have questions, can we use this pen on others tablet ?^^"
That I am not too sure. Just make sure other tablets mention specifically Surface Pen support.
Sir,will these pen be supported on a non touch screen laptop? Please answer my question sir
Unless it has a digitizer, no.
Thx
can the adonit ink magnetically attach to the surface go or surface pro 6
It can't
any of them are compatible with the microsoft surface RT?
No
which one of them is competible for iPad? Thaks
No. They only work of Microsoft Surface products
Do any of the alternatives have the magnetism to the tablet the the surface pro pen has?
Not for the ones featured in this video. There may be others available that have magnets but I don’t know any
I think there is a connection between the jittering and your angle which you draw
There is
Hey guys, ik im late but i hope someone can help me.
So i have the Acer laptop that is touchscreen and can be a tablet aswell (the keyboard is detachable).
Edited: my device is Acer Aspire Switch One 10, model N15P2
The system is Windows 10. I would like to know which stylus would work for my case or if simply any stylus from this video will work?
Thanks for reading♡
Does that mean the Microsoft Surface pen will not work on other companies 2-1 laptops? I have an HP Envy x360 (2018 model) with an HP pen using N-trig. I was interested in trying out the surface pen. BTW have you tried the HP pens? It is okay with me but I really don't have anything to compare it to.
Not sure but it works at least on my asus zenbook flip
Have you made any new experiences in the last 3 weeks?
Also thinking about buying a Surface Pen for my Envy x360 and because I really hate the cheap HP Pen....
I've read online that it should work.
@@sugarshock7925 I'm still using the HP pen. I haven't tried the surface pen yet.
RetroRaver I have an envy too does it work?
@@stephano447 Well it does work and the rubber tip certainly feels better on thw screen than the plastic tip of the standard HP Pen.
But sometimes, strokes are not registered correctly and it behaves weird. Wasn't able to find out if just my Pen is broken or if these are compatability problems.
Hi Teoh, do they all work on Surface Pro 6 and Lenovo Yoga Book C930 and X1 tablet? I am not sure which one to purchase from these three machines but I am eager to get into digital art. Any advise from anyone would be much appreciate :-)
These pens only work on selected Windows tablets and laptops. I'm not sure if they will work with the Lenovo ones.
@@teohyc You mean tablets and laptops on which windows is installed... then all of these have windows O/S on them...
@@ronyj7098 Yeah, not not all tablets/laptops are compatible with the Surface Pen and alternatives.
Which one of these are magnetic
Surface Pen
Do they all ignore the touch of your hand on the screen as you draw? This is my main problem with finding a stylus
All these have palm rejection
i have alienware laptop i use mostly as desktop at home for games and photoshop but i use surface pro 6 for drawing and i noticed a weird thing about the surface pro pen recently i've layed the pen down on the right side of my laptop and it causes it to restart curious if you ever heard of that before?
Wow. Never heard of that before.
I have kinda same setup as you , I got the surface book 2 instead
Would you recommend the surface pen
@@ToxicFlight I prefer the Surface Pen
Do they all work on the surface pro 7?
Yes
Does the Adonit ink work with Ipad air 2 and surface pro 2017
Works only with Surface products
Teoh Yi Chie thx does it use Bluetooth
Also does any of the styluses form the video does any work for iPad or both
@@sameern.3125 It doesn't have bluetooth. It works with all Windows 10 laptop with touch screen, and cannot work with iPad. I have one here, the jitter is as mentioned in the video, but for my usage it is not a big problem.
Can I use adonit dash 3 on surface pro or another windows tablet? And Can I use the wacom bamboo ink on android tablet or ipad?
Yes for Adonit, no for Wacom
@@teohyc thank you
@@teohyc sorry how about adonit pixel? Can it work for any android and surface pro ?
@@raniamalia5468 Adonit Pixel only works on iPad
The original pen sucks for drawing I thought it was my screen protector but its the program can anyone help
is surface pro 6 pen same surface pro 4pen?
Yes
After seeing your videos I have a question: which tablet is the best for students (ipad 2018, samsung s4 or mediapad m5 pro, assuming they cost the same)? To take notes and work with pdf and powerpoints, etc ...
I know a doubt about the noise the pen produces when it touches the screen: what is the least annoying pen between Apple Pencil, S-Pen and the M-Pen ?
They don't cost the same. I'll probably go with M5 Pro because of the larger screen. Tab S4 is good but expensive. IPad is good too but if you are not using it for drawing, Android is better choice.
@@teohyc yeah, here in Italy S4 costs 449€, Mediapad costs the same and iPad 32gb 320€ plus 100€ for the apple pencil
@@fabiomarcani9776 i am windows user, but i have to admit, that drawing/writing experience is superior on Ipad Pro. Buying second-hand Ipad Pro 2018 is good choice now that 2019 is out. It has the best latency (both display refresh rate, and very fast processor), apple pencil feels very good and also very important - the space between pen tip and actual display is the smallest in ipad. So you feel like the line is created right at the tip of the pen, not "deeper".
I have bought surface pro and I am pretty happy, but still little sad that i didn't go for the ipad pro in the end.
Hey if you have not purchased a tablet yet, the Surface Go is the best budget note-taking tablet, period. It is the best screen you can buy at that pricepoint, the Surface line of keyboards are among the best low-profile typing experiences, and of course the surface pen is arguably the most versatile digital writing utensil.
Looking for another pen. Surface pen goes through tips like crazy. The plastic that is used just doesn't hold up and they keep breaking on me after only a month of moderate usage.
yup. my first experience with surface pro was that i accidentally dropped the pen from small height (5cm) right on the nib and it completely shattered. I was waiting a month for the pen tip kit. I also have a wacom for few years and I didn't manage to damage a nib yet
try the surface 3 pen , it has harder tips and if well setup is not much different to the sp4 pen ( no tilt but 2 buttons ) you can only really tell the difference in pressure sensitivity using them back to back . i bought 3 for £19 each from ebay as backups to my sp4 pen a while back ( still available from around £20-£30 ) and i actually prefer them to the sp4 pen which can be kind of grabby ( sticks to the screen and skips causing jitters )
Are any of these rechargable?
Most use batteries
adonit ink is rechargable
ASMR VOCALS. ❤️
bloobeyond I have the condition misophonia and it’s hell
@@capt_toad7890 I'm so sorry to hear that.
Can you please try HP Pen as its much much cheaper than even adonit ink and Surface Pen? Would love to see you review it and help me make a buying decision..
Excellent review. I have the Surface Pro 4 and was wondering about alternatives to the standard pen for drawing. I guess I'll stick with the Surface Pen.
Thanks, but where can i find link to doughnut ink pen?
What kind of stylus would work with a Huawei tablet?
Capacitive ones. Rubber tip, disc tip. Adonit Snap, Adonit Dash
@@teohyc Thank you so much!
Can i use them for android?
No