The Singer 201: Is this the finest Sewing Machine ever made?
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- The Singer 201, with its 8 1/2 inch. harp/throat space width and rotary shuttle hook is lauded by many sewers as one of the best machines ever produced. Do you agree? Share your own thoughts on the 201 vs. other machines. If you own one, what do you love about it? Do you have other machines you prefer over it? This machine recently received a full overhaul/restoration and is now ready for sewing duty! The 201's that Singer produced over man decades both in the US and UK represent one of their finest engineering attempts at both stitch quality and machine quality. Also, see my comments on the special extra cost option of the "Built in foot pedal" that some original purchasers were willing to pay extra for!!
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My grandfather sold acres of land to send money to a relative in Athens to buy another piece of land in the capital so that he and his family will move out of the island. What the relative did instead, was to buy, with the exact amount of money, a 1950s Singer and send it to my mum , a 14year old at the time, to set her up professionally. My grandad was furious but my mum made the best out of it as she became the teenager dressmaker where everybody in the island would go to. :)
WOW!
Teach a teen to fish...
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What a brilliant story!
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I bought a 201-2 several years ago at a yard sale for $100. I have been sewing all my life and think this is the best I have ever used. I have abandoned all my other machines in favor of this one.
I purchased a 201-2 with beautiful wooden cabinet and knee power lever about a year ago. I brought it home, oiled it and used it right away with no problem. The fact that it sat for years, is older than I am and still works makes it the best machine. I need to replace the power cable before doing any major projects on it. I sought out the old Singer after trying to service a fairly expensive modern machine and seeing how cheaply it was made. I broke it trying to open it and oil it. It wasn't worth fixing.
I'm not surprised at what your observed in new vs. vintage machines! Oh, the good news on your power cable is that they make new reproductions for most any Singer due to how many that were originally made. You can find them via almost any sewing parts seller.
I am blessed to be the current caretaker of 3 singer 201s. I say current because these exceptional machines will long outlive me. I've seen everything from quilt tops to split leather chaps. I have several singer models: 3 66s, 3 201s, 4 99s, I absolutely love my 101! Featherweights, 301s , 4oo series and 501. Unfortunately, I found these incredible machines after I spent thousands on what is called high end machines. Live and learn I suppose.
These old machines you speak of wasnt CHEAP back in those times if you put in perspective what people made! Machines Cost the equevelant to a thousand plus in todays money with inflation. A 3 dollar dress in the early 20th Century was equivelant o $80 bucks today.
This!! I remember being so excited years ago when I bout a computerised brother machine, I completely burned it out in only 2 months
I have a 201 treadle from my grandmother. It's a beautiful thing. Quiet and runs like a dream. It's probably about 90 years old and runs better than any modern machines I've had.
Gotta love a treadle!
I would love to have one 201 treadle that I could use rotary attachments.
I have a 201-2, My uncle bought it for his daughter who already bought a new machine. While I was at his house moving some items for his newly built shed, he asked if I wanted it. It was in good shape considering it’s age, after watching a video on maintenance and oiling, I attempted running the Machine and it worked beautifully. It came in a table just like the one you showed with the same foot pedal. After watching your video I have a new appreciation for this machine and feel fortunate to have one.
That is awesome!
I do NOT find the answer to be "tough"! Why? In 1955, while I was a sophomore at B C High, my mother was hired as a bookkeeper for Singer in Cambridge. A few months later, the shop manager asked my mother if I would be willing to work after school and on Saturdays; she said yes and I began the next week. One afternoon, after school, the manager asked me to set up a 201-2 on a 45 walnut cabinet for a floor model. At the end of the week when I came in from school, my first order was to take the demo downstairs and prepare it for delivery. He came down when I had prepped it and gave me the address for delivery -- it was my home address. What the manager had done was to set it on the floor to give my mother the employee discount on top of the 'demo' price. My mother worked that machine hard. A few months after I graduated from High School, my mother got a call from the Singer Headquarters in Boston for me to be interviewed for a job at the 'Replacement Depot/Warehouse by the General Manager, the Boston Manager, and the Warehouse Manager. I got the job and after intense training, including Elizabeth, NJ staff. I became within 2 years the asst. manager of the warehouse and replacement depot. In my time there. I maintained that machine and it now sits in my home. The 201-2 was the least needful of repairs of the entire line. If a 201-2 came in it was for a routine cleaning and oiling unlike a lot of other models [206, 306, and the post 401 machines]. I saw 15 class machines for far more repairs. My top picks in order: 201-2, 66-1, 99, and 185. Singer classified me as a master mechanic [for whatever value that title has]!
Thank you for sharing Jay. It is really something to hear from someone with life experience that connects us to the days when Singer was in its prime.
I’ve owned my Featherweight for a very long time (much longer than they’ve been in so much demand) and have loved it. I got a 201 -2 less than a year ago and recently sewed some face masks on each of them. All I could think of as I compared the two is that the 201-2 has “authority” in a way that no other machine I’ve tried has. That was the word that came to mind. Authority. It’s an absolutely amazing machine.
I just got a(1941) 201-2 at a thrift shop for $100 bucks. I have owned 8 used fixer-upper machines.This 201-2 was all there (parts) but hasn't been loved or used for a long time. Black hard waxy grease, rotted wiring, real stiff movements, gummed up lubrication points, all dried up. Long story short, it is back to life and works flawlessly. It's the quietest, most silky smooth running machine I've ever worked on. Build quality, component engineering, layout of controls and simplicity are all beautifully well thought out, robust and simple. I'm really impressed. The upper and lower tension engineering is genius in its durability and ease of use.I have owned and worked on Juki LZH-1290, juki 5550, Adler 187, Elna supermatic su, consew 227, consew 146-1A-1, singer su, cowboy 3200. This 201-2 has a special place in my heart. When I wear an old tee shirt that I've fixed the pocket on, with the 201-2, I have a little glow of pride in me.
I learned on a 201-2. This was a machine my father bought for mom c. 1950. She made clothes for 6 daughters and taught us all how to sew and make our own clothes. She also made lots of drapes and ruffled bedspreads etc. The best stitch EVER and I love that low hum when stitching at high speed - that evokes very sweet memories and I am currently trying to restore to its original condition. Unfortunately the gold paint has worn off in many places.
How wonderful that you have that machine. If it were mine, I would keep in clean/polished, but not worry so much on the gold decals. People vary in terms of what the consider wear vs. patina. To have a machine that your family member used, the wear would remind me of that person and all of the sewing they did as you mention in your comment. I don't have any machines that belonged to either my mother or grandmothers. How fortunate you are :-)
You can probably get the stencils, an outfit in Florida makes them for various models and seems to have good reviews
I’m going to look at a 201-2 $180.00
Looks nice in pictures. Has had new wiring and motor serviced June 2022. The lady has been sewing with it regularly. Hope I’m making a good choice.
I cant really sew... but I try. Love my 201K. Found it at the dump, couldnt resist taking it home.
Great that you rescued your 201K Carl. Hard to believe anyone would abandon or toss away such an incredibly well made machine.
BTW: I watched part of your series on cabinet. There was a much larger cabinet [massive]. It was a full-fledged desk, two pedestals of drawers. I remember a delivery to Boston's North End to the 5th floor of a tenement with narrow staircase; my boss' brother who was from a large family of Singer workers. [Their father had a Singer shop in East Boston in the early 1900s.] We struggled to deliver it. It had a 201 [heavy enough in itself.] on this massive dark red mahogany desk. It had an accompanying stool. Wow is all we could say when we finished. Another BTW: that winder 'tire' is simply called a rubber ring. Our warehouse supplied most of the parts for repairs for New England, and that's what the Company called it.
Hi I just inherited a Singer Industrial 300-2.....which was manufactured in New Jersey 1938. I must say it is in Beautiful shape it was in my friends attic which belonged to her mother. She stopped sewing on it in 1970 & hasn’t been sewn on since. Absolutely No rust & the cabinet is steel with Singer carved out in which I will deal with that later. All & every attachment came with it even the all 100 spools of threads that she used. I did some sewing with the threads on my Singer 503 & didn’t find any problems with the threads so far. Deciding whether I should order the Singer Red Eye Decals will be doing more research before I make up my mind. This is my Most Cherished machine that I always wanted. I do have a Brother Runway Computerize that I have been sewing on but it’s Nothing to what I have now. One Very Happy Lady!!!
I was fortunate to have obtained a Singer 201K from a friend when his mother left her home and went into care. It was bought for her by her husband as a gift. Fortunately for me, she never used the machine as she had no interest in sewing. It was cleaned and serviced every few of years and at some point the electrical wires were replaced with modern wires as the originals had deteriorated with age. I installed it in a larger table for my mother to use as the 66 she had from her mothers estate was very worn from use. My mother used it for around 15 years before her death and now it has come back to me and it is still one of the best examples I have ever seen and I am very pleased to still have it. My friend wanted to give it to me originally and in the end refused my $100 offer instead only accepting $10. One of the best buys I have ever made. All the best.
Thank you for sharing your story. Sometimes, family members get machines from the original owners and they are fortunate to find someone like yourself who can take care of the machine and appreciate it. The 201 you in this video was sold as the original owner had owned it since the 1950's.
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I received a 201-2. The electronically cord has been cut off.. Would there have been a foot control, like the featherweight?
It isn't in a case or cabinet, just the machine. I have cleaned it and surprisingly isn't to bad of shape.
Thank you for your advice, I am anxious to see if it will run...
My mother bought a Singer 201 in 1947 which I now fortunately have..by far my favorite machine. It has had lots of use and sews like a dream.
Myself I bought a Singer 760 in 1973 which had been used as a demo..it did fairly well for 30 years and then the plastic gears failed. I lucked out by buying a used Singer 628 with metal gears which fits my existing cabinet. I will never again buy a sewing machine with plastic gears..they drain your bank account.
IMHO vintage machines are superior and the 201 is a Rolls-Royce. Truly enjoyed this video and thus subscribed.
My grandmother bought one of these, called the drop-in bobbin, "Tangle and swear," every time she used it. I enjoy my Pfaff 130 in a treadle cabinet much more.
I have two, Singer 201s. Perfect machines for sewing zippered--upholstery fabric--soft travel totes (my specialty). Being able to extend the lift of the presser foot is important because I sew with thicker fabrics. After 50 years of sewing--I agree the Singer 201 is the Rolls Royce of sewing machines.
I love my 201!
The 201 was my dream machine until I got into Necchi's. The Necchi Nora is my current champion - pebbled gun metal finish so no worries about blemishes in paint - straight / zz / and decorative cam - reverse - light directly above needle and work - hi and low speed - powerful motor that is easy to service with universal parts and strong enough to go through several layers of 4oz veg tan leather. The necchi pedal (which is essentially a wider singer knockoff) is my favorite with the most control of my 20+ domestic machines. Of all my machines I'd wager that you could shoot it out of a cannon and it would still produce a beautiful stitch.
But I do have my 201 set up as my go to straight stitch station - threaded up with heavy duty thread and an upolstry needle ready to eat through whatever I throw at it.
This looks like a beautiful machine!
That’s one of the main things I love about vintage Singers, the way you can maneuver the fabric so easily. Great for garment sewing. I think modern machines, with their larger feed dog arrangements and wider presser feet inhibit that maneuverability.
Sewing on modern domestic machines is like using a machete to shave your legs
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Be careful with purchasing the 201. I had several machines that I enjoyed. Then I got my first 201 and my other machines seem to feel left out now. To me, the best straight stitch goes to the 201k, and the best zigzag is the Pfaff 130
I have a 1941 201-2 that a neighbor gave to me. It's in pristine condition and I love how it sews. I learned how to sew on a Featherweight and would love to have one of those again (like everyone else out there)! 😀
I was just gifted a 221k and I’m having it serviced and cant wait to try it. Love that it is easily portable. I do also own a singer 66 (1927) and a 1955 singer both of those are in a table.
I got one of these 201 machines (knee operated) today for free and have just done an initial clean to remove dust and grime. Just need to get new wiring on the power cord as it has seen better days, possibly the cord on the light and the motor certified for safety and source some bobbins and spare needles for it. I'm now on the lookout for a nice vintage cabinet for it and then its original wooden cover can go on display on a shelf. Another vintage machine for my growing collection they are so much nicer to sew with than what is made now, woohoo. I also have my mothers 319K built into a beautiful cabinet with a draw and shelves in a cupboard and stool with lift of seat for storing stuff and I have my aunts 348 Blue Magic portable (due for a service as tension has gone wonky) both which I love experimenting with all the different discs and creating embroidery details on items.
I have 2 201-2's, 3 301's, and 2 Featherweights. I really enjoy sewing on the 201's, partly because they are both in Art Deco cabinets. I enjoy the 301's also, probably more than the FW's. I've never sewn on a 15, so can't compare. I can't remember when I last sewed on my Janome. The vintage machines just do straight stitches so much better. Thank you for the video.
For quilting the singer 201 is by far the best sewing machine to have! I agree regarding the most to maintain regarding the initial overhaul. That is very true! I have a singer 201K, singer 301A, a bernina 817 and lastly a singer quantum CXL(made by juki in the 1990s) thanks for sharing your knowledge with us all! I too am a lover of vintage machines I’ve been rescuing with them for over 8 years now! 👍🏾
The best machine I have sewed on was a Singer--early 70s. I own a Bernina and just purchased Singer 201-2 in fantastic condition and will enjoy it. Bought 201-2 because of larger harp space to quilt on. I learned to sew in the 50s to sew on a Singer treadle. Best machine ever but I want my electric Singer 201-2 now. Thanks for video.
I love my hand crank 201 above all others. The stitch is perfect, it goes forward and backward, the feed dogs drop, it is beautiful and beautifully crafted, and so so quiet! I love the quiet slow perfect stitch that I can make with this beautiful machine. I have recently found a beautiful treadle cabinet and will be looking for another 201 that I can treadle!
Thanks for sharing!
Yes! A treadle 201 is exactly what I want. Good luck with your search.
I just picked up a 1948 201 today at a secondhand store. I didn't know anything about them. I have a 1930 99 in a cabinet. I watched many of your videos so that when it came time to clean, polish, and oil it, I was very comfortable with doing so. It sews beautifully. My 201 needs to be rewired, but the lady plugged it in and it ran without the foot controller being pressed. It was so quiet! Who knows when it was oiled last. It was exactly what I had in mind when I decided I needed another vintage machine. It's full-sized for bigger projects, and the motor is not in the way as the fabric passes through, like it can be on my 99. My other machines are a 1991 Viking 630, and my computerized Brother, which is not that great over bulky seams. Love your videos. I need to order a few things for my 201, and I'll be watching videos on that machine.
Ahh, your foot pedal needs an adjustment maybe.
You can also buy a replacement modern electronic foot controller and just plug that I for around $30
BTW: I mother got all the 'toys' -- buttonholer, zigzagger, assorted presser feet; if the company made it, she got it. Don't need the 'newfangled computer toys.
I have a 201-2 that we set up tonight, we use it some. I was given this machine 15 years ago and I cleaned it and reoiled and found a manual for it, the people that had it could not make it run, they were trying to thread it left to right. My girlfriend has a 201K that we bought parts for and I believe it runs fine, this cam from her family. The other singer I have works well too, it has a light colored cabinet with a single drawer in the top front, I was given it 7 years ago and I cleaned and oiled it and it works , but is not as fine as the 201-2 , the cabinet on the 201 has 2 doors and they have cherry square panel in the center of each door and petite knob to open them, inside on one door is spool holders and on the left it has swing out drawers that are very frail looking but are very sturdy. I love the mechanics of sewing machines, I have a treadle machine that needs alot of work, needs new veneer, need and belt , I recently found some bobbins and shuddles for it, it's missing 3 drawers, but I have one for a pattern to make the others, retirement project. Yes sewing machines are a poison in my soul, someday I will fine a singer walking Foot for almost free and I will have all I need, I know it's hard to pass up the old machines. You are right about the home sewing machines made today, I have one I bought in Spain and it has been a piece of junk since the day I bought it in 1988, not even heavy enough for a boat anchor. Sorry for being long winded.
Thanks for sharing
I used to sew on a 201k, and the stitch quality was excellent, reliable, consistent, and easy to balance the tensions. Now I do up some old singers to sell and Checking out your channel for tips!. I never got a 15, 66 or 99 model to stitch as good a a 201
Thanks for sharing!
I love your channel! I restore antique/ vintage sewing machine tables and I have been listening a lot lately, please don’t stop it helps me work! If a gun was put to my head I would have to say dress master/ white rotary with the flat black finish, 12776544. My grandmothers machine now mine.
I would love to own a 201-2 someday! However, my favorite machine is a singer 192k also known as a Spartan.
Really nice! My singer 237 got me through a lot, and the main setback was that it had zigzag stitch so the opening on the feed dog was too big and I always got at least 1 jam throughout a full day of sewing. I now use an industrial and appreciate machines that do 1 task but do it well, I might look into this machine since I am moving across the country soon and may not want to pay $400 to ship my industrials
I own two 201s, both knee-operated. One was made in Germany, pre-WW2; I bought it fairly cheaply in a suburb of Bordeaux, France. It was in a rather sorry state, aesthecally, but still going strong, and I feel it must come with quite a history. The other one is a British-made fifties model that had been fully refurbished by a professional, so I only had to plug it in to set it purring. The stitch quality is exactly the same from both, and they will make a great team, once I have rewired the older lady...
I inherited 28 old sewing machines from my mom, of which two are in boxes and may be this model. I'm making my way through these machines, have cleaned and oiled and given away 10 of them so far. So far, my favorite sewing machines are most of the Brother Brand, and I'm currently loving the LS 1217. But if I find a 201 here and get it running, it will likely become my favorite, as I am a quilter. Thank you for this channel.
Your mom must have been quit the Seamstress! ;-)
@@zeusincoming282 Actually, mom rarely sewed during the years in which she collected those machines. She just loved the process of collecting them. And, the two in boxes turned out to be featherweight 221 machines. Since posting my original message here, Goodwill suddenly decided that they would not accept machines that did not have polarized plugs. So, I donated the remainder of mom's machines plus 5 of my own and including the featherweights to a guy who owns a local shop that specializes in second-hand machines. Last i heard, he was having no problem finding them all good homes.
Hi Judy,I just wish you were my neighbor,I would have gotten one of those sewing machines from you,too bad iam miles away in Kenya.Pray for me so that I can purchase a sewing machine of my own.God bless you.
@@Trumpetcalldiaries Yes, if you had lived next door, I would have given one to you. I will pray that you find a good machine that is not terribly expensive and can be received in Kenya.
@@judyf3684 Thanks alot,that is my prayer too.I know God will provide me with money so that I can get a machine that is not so expensive.God bless you
Hi, I found your site yesterday and want to say thank-you for posting and sharing your knowledge and experience. Keep up the good work! I am a subscriber. I'm in Massachusetts, USA
Re: kijiji sales,
My suggestion is that if you have items or machines to offer for sale that you might post a link to the website that you use with the city name, perhaps?
Definitely the best sewing machine ever made in my opinion, and I own just bout every home sewing model.
You must have a huge sewing machine collection. LOL
I just aquired a 201 it's amazing. I have a 99K too. Just wonderful machines. My Baby lock is not worth the 1200.00 it's very statically charged. It always looks dirty. That 201 just glistens. It sews straight and true.😊
A friend of mine had an Art Deco sewing machine cabinet with the original machine in it. He loved the cabinet, but didn't like the look of the machine, and was going to junk it. I told him I would take the machine, whatever it happened to be, sight unseen. It turned out to be a 1941 201-2. I had to overhaul it and completely re-wire it, but now it runs like a Gazelle :0)
Wow! A free 201. So glad you rescued this. And you both got something you wanted.
I found a singer 99 recently in reasonable shape and it works a treat. Id like to restore it. I’ve oiled it but have noticed behind the lever plate the gears have a bit of rust.
I don't have a 201 in the stable yet, but keep looking for a good one. I only collect those that are cosmetically perfect....or near factory condition. My favorite is my 404, though my 1913 Model 66 treadle is the prettiest. Recently picked up a 99K that does not have a single sign of pin rash. Not sure it was ever used. However, at some point someone snipped all the wires to the motor, so I have some work to do! But it's one of those that just takes your breath away !
Thank you for sharing.
I want one of these someday. The work space looks awesome.
My Singer 401a is my favorite machine, it has speciality stitches built in, zigzag blind hem and can do buttonholes. It takes cams for lots of decorative stitches. It's super fast and it's durable. I serviced it myself. It's a little noisier machine because of the gears and the bobbin mechanism is a bit noisier. Its a little smaller in harp space.
I also have a Bernina 1130, that is the quietest machine I've ever heard and it has the prettiest stitching of anything I've used. But, the workspace is too small and the plastic parts are starting to crack. It's not going to last forever.
Parabéns pelo video interessante e objetivo. Eu prefiro minha Singer 15_91, mas não deixo de reconhecer as qualidades que apontou. Desde o Brasil......
I agree the singer 201 is the most awesome. It was the Queen of England's choice. 25 years ago I phoned a large sewing machine repair shop because I was setting up a sewing room to fill a contract for banners. I couldn't afford to go out and buy all new machines so my question for the technician was what options do I have for a quality and affordable machine that would stand up to the abuse. He told me that the singer 201 was probably the best ever made. Well I have five of them now and I just love them. None of them have the direct drive motor, they all have the belt drive motors and I prefer them. You can hot rod them up a little if you want to experiment with different motors or tables. I have them set up with different needle sizes and such to save time for little projects and the like. They are all pristine and I would have a hard time letting any of them go. You're right about the stitch, just beautiful. The drop in rotary hook along with the all gear drive underneath and the simplicity make it a joy to sew with. Hooked on old iron.
A little late to the party but, I just bought a 1951 201-3 with the same cabinet and built-in foot pedal. It came with a whole bunch of accessories and the original receipt for the machine. The gentleman who bought it paid 320$ CDN for the unit in 1952. That was a LOT of money ! About 3800$ in today’s money according to internet inflation calculator !!!
Great find that you have there. Yes, it was quite a lot of money in today's dollars.
Thank you very much for your reply. I've managed to buy a little zig zagging attachment for my 201K!
Fantastic!
Next weekend I'll be able to report back regarding my first Singer treadle machine. Will take home a White Rotary FR and a Sear-Kenmore 1410 (and maybe two). Plus, I'll get my sewing stash so can finally test out these machine I've recently acquired for free (Dressmaker's 7000 & 48000) an the one I've had for the past few years I've not tested yet... the 158.1813.
The best sewing machines: are actually tiered among the same models
1. Singer 201
2. Singer 15
Without the potted motors, preferably, singer k ( kilbowie) made machines!
Without a doubt, my favorite machine is the 201. I currently have four in my collection. Nothing produces the quality of stitch that the 201s produce. The 400 and 500 series with their rotary hook come close. But, if I were to choose a machine that does zigzag as well, hands down it would be Kenmore 158-1941. When used with a walking foot, its straight stitch comes very close to the 201-2. No machine that I have come across beats it in zigzag. Not for those who want a lot of decorative stitches, but very useful stitches.
Great points Ronald. I share your admiration for some of those Kenmores. They are real workhorses. I also love the ZigZag qualities of the Necchi BU era models.
Well first hi from Italy!!!! I’m lucky enough to be the owner of a 201k beige aluminium. It’s rather rare in Italy to find this kinda model same with the 221 (which I found also) I have to admit that the smoothen, the precision, the piercing power, the energy that this machine has is unique. I understood right away why they use these as a “tailor” machine. Even if not industrial this one makes you feel like you’re sewing on one.the only thing I would’ve change is probability the horizontal bobbin in same with the bobbin dimension... I tend to preferred the vertical class 15 bobbin but other that that no other complain at all!! Oh, maybe a knee lift like the Bernina 830? Or the possibility to install an external knee lifter?
Hello. Yes, I still have a huge fan of the 201. Yes, K stood for Kilbowie Scotland. The 201-3 is rare IN THE US. They were of course, far more common in the UK along with Canada.
After owning nearly every vintage Singer from the mid-20th century, this was one of my least favorites. Yes, it sews smoothly, and makes a beautiful straight stitch but so do many other machines which also do more than this one. The 301 and 319 both sew just as smoothly, but much faster (at least among the machines I tested.) They both have vertical rotary hooks which is the best of the best, IMO. The 319 not only sews just as well as a 201 but has built-in zigzag stitches and three needle positions. The 401 is another machine that sews as smoothly as a 201 - same drop-in bobbin and rotary hook - but has extensive built-in stitches and other features that blow the 201 out of the water. Even the 15-91, while not quite as smooth as the 201, has the same perfect stitch along with a vertical front-loading bobbin which makes it superior for free-motion work and better for heavy-duty work as well. In fact, the only thing I really appreciated about the 201 was how smooth it was, but when comparing it to these other machines, I never found anything "better" about it. It's not the best straight stitcher (that would be the 301, which also has the advantage of being portable) it's not the best all-around machine (that would be the 401) and it's not the most rugged (that would be the 15-91.) Anyway, this is my take on it!
Bought featherweight with table at Renningers in Mt Dora, FL
Nice video! I would be interested to see a video on Singer sewing cabinets. Mine is mahogany with 2 little drawers on both sides. Only about 34" wide when closed up. It has a curved shaped wood under the machine and a knee pedal that folds in when not in use. It's very pretty and in good shape for 70 years old. I saw one like it on the internet that had a Herman Miller label on it. Wonder if Herman Miller made the cabinets for Singer. Thanks for sharing.
That is very interesting. Herman Miller is a big player in commercial furnishings, but I was unaware that they had any involvement in sewing tables, but its certainly possible.
Great video! I am lucky enough to own a 201 and it is indeed the finest straight stitch machine produced by Singer! When you sit down and sew on one you know you are using a masterpiece of craftsmanship and engineering! I also own a 401 which in my opinion, is the finest zig-zag machine created by the company. It's said it would cost a fortune to make a 201 today with the original
level of skill used to make the originals. I truly believe it! Today the demand for them is high and those who have access to one should consider themselves lucky, because they're not cheap. Too much of whats produced nowadays, is cheap garbage that will soon find it's way to a landfill, while a 201 will be passed down through generations. I recently sat and repaired a heavy gauge leather jacket on one and she did the job without a whimper, something I know many of today's computerized machines are not capable of............how can plastic gears compare to steel and cast iron?? Wouldn't trade my 201 for 100 computerized machines!!! They really don't make them like they use too!!!
I can totally relate. I own a few vintage kitchen countertop appliances (mixer and waffle iron from the 1940s) and nothing made today compares!!
That is without any doubt a very fine sewing machine. But for "the best sewing machine ever" I miss 2 things on it:
- ability for zig-zag
- knee lever for pressure foot lifter
Both (built in a 100% metal mechanics sewing machine) is included in the vintage Bernina class 117 (built 1938-45) which is i.m.o. the best sewing machine ever made.
Mine came with a sheared off thread spool on the top of the machine. Try as I may, I have not been able to drill it out and or pound it out so I can replace it with a new one. Do you have a suggestion on what I can try to replace it with a new one? Thanks!
Great video! I just purchased a Singer 201-2 that seems to have been with the original owner’s family. It works, but it is a bit dull. Do you have any suggestions for what material to use to clean it and to make it shiny like yours? Thank you very much!
I've had over 20 machines at once and I would say the 201 is the BEST straight stitch machine unequivocally (rotary hook) - great stitch def., nice accessories, quiet, fast. I used to vacillate between the 15-91 and 201. But since I prefer a rotary hook, I favor the 201. The 15-91 is just as good. As for zig zag machines - I am still trying to figure that out. I'd love to hear your opinion about the best zig zag machine. Especially in light of Bernina. I have the first Bernina zig zag - 117k and a Record 830
I can understand why you like both of those Singers. It really might depend on what your sewing project was. For heavy weight fabrics, I find the 15-91 to be a bit stronger. For a stitch with sheer beauty, I agree that the 201 is beyond compare in many ways. As for ZigZag capable machines, there are honestly many that would work very well for most people's needs. For very exacting short length ZigZag such as a Satin stitch, I have found the early ZigZag Necchis to be among the best I've seen. Also, the Singer 237 is a real bargain as it has similar shuttle movement setup just like the Necchis but at a much lower price. But any of the vintage era machines generally make great ZigZag workers so you really could not go wrong with any of those as long as they were maintained well.
@@VintageSewingMachineGarage I had a 237 and it is belt driven under instead of gear driven. It seized up and would not run and the belt broke. I took it completely apart and it was the main shaft that was seized so I parted it out. I did not like it and was not a good singer machine.
I like a rotary hook, of course, but I also like a VERTICAL hook. The best of both worlds for me is the 301 for straight stitcher and a 319 for a zigzagger. A 221 for fun, even.
I agree it is one of the best but not thee best. I think the singer 137 is the best machine they ever made. It is not easy to find them anymore as most people hang on to them and will not part with them I had two of them and gave one to my sister. I have three other singer treadle sewing machines and they are all in very good condition. My youngest sister has three treadles and two of hers are in mint condition. Original show room with no scratches and they work very well.
So incredible to have working machines and so well cared for over generations. Thank you for sharing!
Yes.
I’ve just bought a Singer 210k from EBay for £100 I’m so excited 😆 and watching UTube videos to help me care for it .
Thank you 😊
What’s the “potted “ mean ?
I heard mine is made in Scotland 🏴.
I learnt to sew on a hand crank singer in the 60/70s as a child .
Did you mean to say you bought a Singer 201K? Yes, they are such amazing examples of great engineering before the age of everything digital! FYI, Singer did not describe this model's motor as "Potted". That term is very common amongst modern day fans of the machine because some felt the motor appeared like a black 'pot'. Singer may have used words like "Direct Drive". For Singer 201's made in the UK, I believe all of those were made with the Singer BT series of motors which are the more traditional mounted motors that use belts. But whichever motor system you have, the real magic of the 201 is in its drive train which is mostly the same whether you have a N. American 201 or UK version. The stitch quality is truely extraordinary. Congrats on finding yours. Yes, the letter K designates your machine as having been made in the largest factory Singer ever built which was located in Kilbowie Clydebank. With care, your 201 can last even more generations!!
@@VintageSewingMachineGarage I’ve just used it .... wow it’s a dream to sew with , I loved cleaning it and oiling her ... that was money well spent for sure . I have 4 daughters maybe they will enjoy once I’m gone , I feel like I have a Rolls Royce .
Yes I meant the 201k
Wow isn’t cast iron heavy
Is there a portable thread stand for a Singer 201-3 that will fit in the top oil holes of the machine? I ask because these are available for the feather weights.
I have a Singer 201-3 it came with one hole 66 bobbins vintage, can I use the 4 hole 66 bobbin with this machine? I ask because there is a bit of a different design between the 2 styles.
Love this! I recently purchased a 201-2 and love it. Unfortunately the long arm spring on the bobbin winder is snapped off. I can’t seem to remove the hinge screw in order to remove the assembly and replace the part. It simply won’t budge. Any thoughts? Thanks.
H Anna. You might try one of the Penetrant products that I have used on my RESCUE SERIES videos. Some people have also found success with (Careful) application of heat and sewing machine oil with hair dryers. This and patience should get it loose. I find Singers typically are less ornery than other brands for getting screws to turn but there are always exceptions!
Vintage Sewing Machine Garage Thanks so much for your help. I will search through those videos right away.
I just picked up one of these beauties. The only issue I have is that the presser bar lever doesn’t stay up. The machine sees beautifully, but a small pain that the lever doesn’t stay up when needed. Any ideas?
It could be the bolt that holds the lever in place is loose. Also the presser bar has a spring that it uses. Yours might have failed. Start by checking the Presser Bar control knob at the top left of the machine and see if it is functioning. I can't tell without seeing your machine but this can often be a source of the issue.
What year was the 201-2 launched ? And does it work well with silk, crepe, nylon ?
Singer launched the 201 series as a replacement for the Singer 101. There were different versions some of which had the Direct Drive "Potted" motor design while others had the BR setup with a rear mounted motor and belt. The oldest 201 I have worked on was from 1938 per its serial number. I have noticed that the earlier 201's had a chrome trim ring on the black hand wheel while those after the war were solid black with no ring.
My Nanas 201 is here with me now, after my aunt let it get filthy! Spent an hour going through microfiber cloths to get the dust bunnies and cobwebs off. It’s bone dry, will call around the service centers later for some machine TLC.
I sewed on a White 1099 for years, can’t remember seeing on this though I did. If I get this clean and oiled, can’t wait to try it!
Hello. Try using soft cotton cloths/rags. Microfibre can potentially scratch the paint.
What is the "listing" you are referring to?
Thank you for the brilliant video. But will my recently acquired 201K really not do a zigzag stitch 🙁? Will it really only do straight stitching?
Only straight stitch I'm afraid. But what an AMAZING straight stitch. Many people who have 201's will add a second machine with ZigZag.
What is your site and where do you buy oem parts for vtg singer
Thanks
Mike
Hello Michael. We don't have a website but use UA-cam for showcasing the machines we sell on Kijiji. For parts, Singer's are the best for getting both vintage and (some) new reproduction parts. Cords are one example where its great to have new OEM versions that can be used. Sewing machine belts, electronic generic foot pedals, and other new supplies can be found many places online. My first go-to source is Sew-Classic. They have very reasonable pricing and quick service. But you can also find a number of Ebay suppliers. For vintage/original parts, I like bonanza.com along with Ebay & Etsy.
Do you have a website where i can see the machines you have for sale?
Great video. In your opinion, which model 201 is the best? 201, 201-2, etc. Thanks for all you do.
All 201's should produce those incredible stitches that Singer rotary hooks were known for. While some folks may suggest that the Potted Motor versions (direct drive/no belt) are stronger, that assumption works better for something like a Singer 15-91 which is more suited to heavy fabrics and tote bags etc. For the 201, I don't feel that is as relevant since the 201 shines best with light to medium weight fabrics. Sure, it can sew heavier but the heaviest fabrics on home sewing machines are better stitched with machines such as a Singer 15 class or one of its copies since the vertical bobbin design is on those is less finicky at heavy fabric weights than a top loading bobbin machine like the 201.
I just bought a Singer 201 at Restore(habitat for humanity store). It is missing the electric plug. Sad!! Can you please tell me where I would be able to find a replacement? Thank you. Great videos btw!!
I have a 101 in a lovely cabinet. The 101 is in fairly new condition, potted motor, beautiful decals. Some day a 201 will find me, I have friends looking. Do you have any comments on a comparison, other than reverse stitch?
Hello Cynthia. The 101 is one of those machines I have never had the pleasure of working on. Like many machines, that model was updated with models (the 201 in this case) that had the back tacking feature. The 101's are older than the 201's and so finding one is the condition you describe sounds amazing. Let us know how it sews for you.
Vintage Sewing Machine Garage Yes, I will. Sue is 1928, serial no. AC 435910, 1928. Don’t know how to send photos on Utube. She makes a lovely stitch and is in the library style cabinet with knee control. Lucky am I.
Does anyone know how to reach the man who makes these machines? I want to buy one. Thanks!
great vid, just wondering if you think its normal for the 201 to vibrate a bit at high RPM?
Hello. Given that the 201 is one of the smoothest machines ever engineered for home use, it might be worth checking on the belt tension. Outside of that, I would have to see it up close to further examine it. You might also check the set screws that hold the machine to the hinge pins where it attached to its table or carrying case. FYI, machines installed in tables will tend to be more vibration free at high RPM's than those in cases.
@@VintageSewingMachineGarage yeah its in a case, its quiet and smooth at lower RPM just flat out it tends to have a bit of a shudder which to me seems like it would be due to the rotating mass
You are correct...THE best machine I've ever used! Unfortunately it's running so slow now, it's frustrating. I regularly grease and oil it and have re-wired it but can't seem to figure out what else to do. Any hints?
Hello Jo. There can be any number of issues that cause slow RPM's on a sewing machine. If your thread tension is correct ( poor stitches would tell you if it wasn't), then one thing to check is both the bobbin/hook area as well as the hand wheel area for loose threads that might have become bound up on the machine. This can happen without you seeing it when a bobbin is would or when thread breaks and you think you are out of bobbin thread. If none of these are the cause, there could be other obstructions (broken needle remnant?). Also, check your presser bar pressure along with belt tension. Also be sure that the mechanism that controls your feed dog drop is not loose. I would start there. Good luck in your Troubleshooting. I plan on doing a video soon on common Troubleshooting issues.
@@VintageSewingMachineGarage Thanks for your input. The machine is absolutely sewing terrific as always (speed excluded) with no broken/loose/stuck threads or problems like you have mentioned. However...you mentioned "belt tension". Where is the belt located? I believe I have a potted motor. Does this take the place of a belt? Also...I've been kicking around the idea of replacing the knee/foot pedal. It's been re-wired but I've wondered if it is simply worn out? This baby is from the 1940's!
Hi Jo. I should have noted or asked WHICH version of the Singer 201 you have. The one you see in the video is the direct drive Potted motor design. Some 201's or 201K's have Singer BT motors and sewing machine motor belts. So you can disregard my belt tension suggestion of yours is direct drive. As for your foot/knee pedal, I cannot tell without seeing it if it is worn. Most of the traditional Singer "Button" style foot pedals can require cleaning and adjusting after so many years. (I don't know if yours is that style or not ). I have not come across any that were worn, although they can be damaged if dropped.
@@VintageSewingMachineGarageA wonderful suggestion! I do have an old button style pedal and I found this video to explain how to adjust it. ua-cam.com/video/_OeMDz37aUM/v-deo.html
I've done the adjustment and it has improved. Still not as fast as it used to be but still better. Thank you so much for your suggestions. I really appreciate it!!
@M/B/M G-L It has been adressed and fixed...thank you!
Would love to know what area you are in. I am in the middle of Michigan.
My mother in law passed her Singer on to me. I have purchased new wiring for it, but so far, I don't feel like I have to knowledge to do the job.
Hello Mary. You could elect to take your machine to a local sewing repair center to inquire about having it professionally rewired. They might also point you in the direction of someone who could do that work such as a local TV repair center. A few towns still have those and they might have someone qualified to repair what your machine needs specifically. With patience, you should be able to find someone.
There are a lot of Facebook groups that cater to antique and vintage sewing machines. If you post a request there you can probably find a shop that someone can recommend. Try the group Singer Featherweight 221 & 222 Sewing Machines. Others have posted questions on Singers occasionally on models other than just Featherweights.
I have one..
Hi I have a singer 201K treadle its in great shape, dirty but Im working on it, I just cant seem to get the bobbin thread to come up, not sure why?
With the 201 is there any difference over the years of quality of the parts? Are there better years than others like earlier compared to mid or towards the end of their manufactered life?
What a great question!! Not to my knowledge. There was a change in the UK produced models where I believe they went to an Aluminum body but the steel inside was still top notch. But as far as I know, the 201 sailed thru its production years with little change. If anyone knows otherwise, please share your experience.
How I identify a 201 singer sewing machine?
Hi I am looking for a bobbin 201k -1 the tensioner broke
Would you like a 2015 Davis with attachments and owners manual ? I have pictures.
The 301 and 404 are the evolution of straight stitch depending on what you want. I prefer the 404. The two best sewing machines for home use are the Singer 403A and 404.
I love my 404! I learned how to see on one like it.
How can I purchase a 201-2 refurbished by you? Do you have a website? Thanks! Bill Barber
Hi Bill. These machines are sold locally where we live in the Toronto Metro area. If you are ever this way, let me know.
Hi my 201K keep cutting the thread in the needle, any idea why? I ant sew anything, as I press the pedal the thread snapped..
Hello. It can be caused by a variety of issues, but here are a few things to try.
1. Make sure your thread is not old
2. Check to see what needle size you have. If the thickness/size of your thread is not in proportion to the size of needle you are using, this can cause issues.
3. Try rethreading your machine. Thread can get twisted or bound up around thread guides or even the needle itself and can cause this to happen.
4. Make sure your needle is installed correctly. If its not all the way up vertically or if its not facing in the correct direction (see your manual) this can create the breaking you are seeing.
5. FYI, the 201 is set up for its needle to face with flat edge towards the left (grove faces the right). This is opposite how most machines take their needles.
6. If all else fails, then try rethreading both upper and lower threads and installing new needle. Also check to see that your thread tension is adjusted and not out of sync. Too little or too much tension on the upper thread (or sometimes lower) can cause this as well.
For additional tips, see my video SERIES 1 and 2 on TROUBLESHOOTING
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Thank you, I will check these and let you know how it went
Thank you again, I got it sorted and is now running perfectly well. the problem was, the needle was in the wrong way round. thanks a million.
You're welcome M Ma. Glad to hear your 201 is back to working for you.
Wonder what year is the best 201 to purchase?
Hi Joan. That is actually a great and relevant question for many sewing machine models/brands since makers would often make changes to keep things fresh in the eyes of consumers. Fortunately for us today, Singer was not so fast to make changes for most models. The primary differences you will see are those 201's that either have a Direct Drive Motor (often called by fans a "Potted Motor") and the other 201s that were sold with rear mounted motors (more traditional setup) that used motor belts. The direct drive versions are 'somewhat' more convenient in that there is no belt to change but restoring those takes considerably more time. Belted versions work just fine and either would serve you well. Few machines ever made approach the quality of stitch this model offers along with its extra generous space for getting sewing work under the needle.
I have been doing research on this machine the past few days as I am considering purchasing one. But this video just threw me off. I thought the 201 had the light in front? Are you sure this is a 201?
The most commonly seen version, with the direct-drive potted motor, is the one that has the light housing cast into in the front; the less common (in the US, at least) belt driven versions utilize an add-on light at the rear of the machine. I was confused, too, the first time I saw a belted 201, as it looked more like a 66.
Mine has the light in front, I guess it varies, dependent upon the year it was made.
Hi this looks like mine EE58158 is this the same as yours , where can I find the year … thank you
looks like I have the same table too ..
I paid less than $25.00 for the machine and table , it needed repairs .. I bring mine to a dealership here where I live and very happy I have mine , I love this machine
Hello, from the UK. Do you know anything about Singer G105? I bought one from Facebook Marketplace. It is very heavy and stitches are perfect, but the motor noise is like croaky, even after I cleaned and oil it. Do you think this is a good machine?
Thank you :)
Hi there! It's tough to say without seeing it in person. Bushings or bearings can sometimes fail but their can be many reasons so you may wish to find someone there that would be willing to look at it for you; assuming it is the motor creating the sound.
is this a precursor to the featherweight?? Eyes bugging out! lololol
Hi Sharon. No, this model was the followup to the Singer 101. It has a very different layout and bobbin/shuttle system from the Featherweight. The Featherweight does have some similarities to the 301 in that it shares the same bobbin/shuttle system.
Can this machine be converted to the 201-2?
Hello Roger. As far as I know, it cannot. If any viewers out there have seen that, let us know.
Is it taboo to repaint a 201 in a wild color like a Featherweight custom paint job?
Hello. Well, I suppose it depends on what you are willing to spend and whether the value of the machine would drop as a result. (If yours has a Centennial badge, I would keep it original.) As you may know from some of my videos, my personal interest is in conserving the machines I work on to look as closely to their original factory look without completely repainting. But that is subjective. On the other hand, there are people who have vintage machines stripped and repainted in all kinds of color schemes. The do this with Featherweights and other models and I'm sure some have done this with Singer 201's. Unless a machine is genuinely rare and its value would be hurt by repainting it (original or custom colors), then I see no reason why you couldn't have this done. But, and this is very crucial, it must be done by someone with care. Overspray of paint can get into narrow areas of the machine that require movement with tight tolerances so a lot of care must be taken to dissassemble some parts of the machine (chrome plates, screws etc) and masking off others to prevent a poor appearing paint job. Just like with house painting, there is often more work in the prep than the actual application of paint. Regardless of what color you choose, the TYPE of paint is also important. Solvent based paints work best on metal. Water based paints dry to a softer finish and wont hold up well with use. Lastly, having this done well (professionally) should give you good results but expect to pay a premium. I guess that is my biggest caveat here. If anyone offers you an unusually low estimate to paint your machine after you have asked around, you may have to lower your expectations of what you will end up with. Some things in life can be good bargains but not painting. Its mostly about time which is anyone's greatest asset. Good luck with whatever you decide.
@@VintageSewingMachineGarage Thanks. Iv been thinking of having it done for years. I probably will take the plung as you only live once 😁
I have the same underlying one, and I did not understand it, please
Where can I get walking foot
Some sellers offer 'Walking Foot Attachments" for domestic sewing machines and there 'may' be some that fit vintage Singers. Just an FYI, that these attachments are useful for some sewers, but they do not really compare to a dedicated industrial walking foot sewing machine. As to where to find the attachments, they are sold by many online sewing supply sellers. NOTE: Be sure that any you purchase will be compatible with your 201. Even if you find one that is Low Shank (which the 201 uses for all its feet/attachments), it may not fit under your machine due to changes in machine body styles and attachment sizes. Asking before you buy will save you time and possibly $$. Good luck!