The tricky thing for me has been to use these sequences in anything other than total isolation. In order to make a sequence that can fit with other instruments it seems like I have to start very, very simple and then only proceed a tiny ways into the weird place this box wants to go.
4 comments I have for this - 1) You really have to work the tunings (which Anton shows you basically how to do it). 2) You have to expect a bit of sharp or flatness in the notes and plan for that... It's the nature of subharmonics vs standard harmonics. (I suppose if you pulled the VCOs out through the patchbay, you could quantize them to get it to be tighter, but then you would have to mix and send them onto a filter - not necessarily in that order.) 3) Polyrhythms from the sequencer are not going to create a typical 4/4, 3/4 beat easily. They aren't going to pulse that way typically. That said, you can get a really nice timed moving pulse with a regular and tight kick, snare, or high hat 'beat'. 4) This last one is probably mostly to taste - I dofind mixing in other moving rhythms a bit more difficult. I tend to favor more sparse melodies or harmonies. To bring my comments together... On my first ever single (Imposter Syndrome by Exponential Logic if you want to hear it), I have a sparse rhythm from the Fusebox and then legato melodies with the Grendel Grenadier and Typhon combined with a tight kick from the Volca Drum and Beats combined. I actually liked the slight sharpness I had in the subharmonics for that experiment as it highlights the worry and anxiety that is present in the real Imposter Syndrome. That said, it did take a bit to get my tunings right. It might have been easier if I had seen Anton's vid before I started work on it. Anyway, hope this helps you see how can find ways to mesh it in...
This is exactly what I've been looking for while considering if I need the Subharmonicon, really great video! Is there a way to turn down the level for each individual step in each sequencer? I love the idea of improvising from scratch with this but I would find it very difficult if I always had to play all four notes of each sequencer at the same time. If I could introduce 1 note at a time I could imagine improvising without pre-planning anything.
Have you experimented with sending the sequencer trigger out to a probability device such as Mutable Instruments Branches so that on occasion the step gets treated as a rest? Obviously you'd have to route it back into the trigger input. Just curious... I like your series, it's nice and informative...
Hi Paul, I haven't started my complete modular way, just semi modulars at the moment with everything they may suggest. But I am starting to think about additional modules that can expand moog family in a nice way. Mutable instruments are the first in the list
@@AntonAnru Thanks - I may give it a shot. I have Branches and hadn't really thought about it with the Subharmonicon until I saw your vid. The main module that has had made my list to acquire for it has been the Intellijel Mutamix. Six inputs to mix/remix/sequence. The downside is you'd have then pump the mix into a filter since the SH doesn't have an external input. Mutable's Ripples is on my list for that (it's a really nice sounding one...).
What I like on semi modulars that they're have these downsides, limitations. This really forces the imagination to work to overcome them, like achieving noise on Subharmonicon or change its sequencer length (that seems impossible according to specs). One of the main reason I don't hurry with full modulars is that'll change the mindset, like "I need noise, fine, I will buy noise generator". No limits
@@AntonAnru Good point; I'm a huge fan of semi modulars myself. (My rack is a Cre8audio NiftyCase with several utilities.) Not necessarily because of constraints per se, but because each semi-modular has a different approach and a unique sound.I have about 5 companies that I have my attention as far as semi-modulars.
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This is a practical video for a challenging synth, that made the most sense out of ANY AVAILABLE Subharmonicon video on the Tube. Thanks!
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You the man, Anton!
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The tricky thing for me has been to use these sequences in anything other than total isolation. In order to make a sequence that can fit with other instruments it seems like I have to start very, very simple and then only proceed a tiny ways into the weird place this box wants to go.
well said
4 comments I have for this -
1) You really have to work the tunings (which Anton shows you basically how to do it).
2) You have to expect a bit of sharp or flatness in the notes and plan for that... It's the nature of subharmonics vs standard harmonics. (I suppose if you pulled the VCOs out through the patchbay, you could quantize them to get it to be tighter, but then you would have to mix and send them onto a filter - not necessarily in that order.)
3) Polyrhythms from the sequencer are not going to create a typical 4/4, 3/4 beat easily. They aren't going to pulse that way typically. That said, you can get a really nice timed moving pulse with a regular and tight kick, snare, or high hat 'beat'.
4) This last one is probably mostly to taste - I dofind mixing in other moving rhythms a bit more difficult. I tend to favor more sparse melodies or harmonies.
To bring my comments together... On my first ever single (Imposter Syndrome by Exponential Logic if you want to hear it), I have a sparse rhythm from the Fusebox and then legato melodies with the Grendel Grenadier and Typhon combined with a tight kick from the Volca Drum and Beats combined. I actually liked the slight sharpness I had in the subharmonics for that experiment as it highlights the worry and anxiety that is present in the real Imposter Syndrome. That said, it did take a bit to get my tunings right. It might have been easier if I had seen Anton's vid before I started work on it.
Anyway, hope this helps you see how can find ways to mesh it in...
Hey Anton... this really helps a lot! Thx man!
You are welcome
Great video, keep it going !! 💥💣
Thank you
Yhankyou for this series!
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Useful, thank you.
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great. thank *YOU*
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I got tinnitus for this :D. Nice work though!
This is exactly what I've been looking for while considering if I need the Subharmonicon, really great video! Is there a way to turn down the level for each individual step in each sequencer? I love the idea of improvising from scratch with this but I would find it very difficult if I always had to play all four notes of each sequencer at the same time. If I could introduce 1 note at a time I could imagine improvising without pre-planning anything.
There's no CVs to control each step's volumes individually. You can do it manually only
@@AntonAnru Thanks! What do you mean by "manually only", what does this involve?
Tweaking oscs volumes. Not exactly what you're looking for. But the features of the synth are limited
thanks a lot !!
You're welcome
Have you experimented with sending the sequencer trigger out to a probability device such as Mutable Instruments Branches so that on occasion the step gets treated as a rest? Obviously you'd have to route it back into the trigger input.
Just curious...
I like your series, it's nice and informative...
Hi Paul, I haven't started my complete modular way, just semi modulars at the moment with everything they may suggest. But I am starting to think about additional modules that can expand moog family in a nice way. Mutable instruments are the first in the list
@@AntonAnru Thanks - I may give it a shot. I have Branches and hadn't really thought about it with the Subharmonicon until I saw your vid. The main module that has had made my list to acquire for it has been the Intellijel Mutamix. Six inputs to mix/remix/sequence. The downside is you'd have then pump the mix into a filter since the SH doesn't have an external input. Mutable's Ripples is on my list for that (it's a really nice sounding one...).
What I like on semi modulars that they're have these downsides, limitations. This really forces the imagination to work to overcome them, like achieving noise on Subharmonicon or change its sequencer length (that seems impossible according to specs). One of the main reason I don't hurry with full modulars is that'll change the mindset, like "I need noise, fine, I will buy noise generator". No limits
@@AntonAnru Good point; I'm a huge fan of semi modulars myself. (My rack is a Cre8audio NiftyCase with several utilities.) Not necessarily because of constraints per se, but because each semi-modular has a different approach and a unique sound.I have about 5 companies that I have my attention as far as semi-modulars.
very helpful, thank you!
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