This Is Why You DON'T Buy a Yamaha YZ250F Dirt Bike

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  • Опубліковано 27 тра 2023
  • I try and fix my 2003 Yamaha YZ250F dirt bike that has been broken down for months. #Yamaha, #250cc,
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  • @georgesimmons4923
    @georgesimmons4923 Рік тому +73

    Watching you flood it and not being there to tell you was hard to do. We used to just bump start them after they were flooded because otherwise you're waiting forever. Also bump starting on pavement is way better than gravel. The tire just slides on gravel and doesn't bite

    • @junoirm7713
      @junoirm7713 8 місяців тому +5

      Ik this is an old video but another thing that helps if there isn’t the best traction is getting the bike just over the compression stroke with your kick starter and assisting the bump start with your starter. This helps so much when trying to bump start.

    • @frankensteinfpv
      @frankensteinfpv 5 місяців тому

      Right!

  • @bubbarodge
    @bubbarodge Рік тому +115

    The bike is worth your time by making videos until its fixed. Your videos help others learn and help them with their projects.

    • @reggiexp69
      @reggiexp69 Рік тому +6

      yeah but its mentally exhausting, me and a friend bought a yfz450 quad to fix up its horrible when u dont know what people done to it... problems keep coming up and it makes u go insane.. i get joe he wants this thing gone and dont wanna touch it ever again

    • @kraftcraft2934
      @kraftcraft2934 9 місяців тому

      🎉😊

    • @ArashiTheWolf
      @ArashiTheWolf 5 місяців тому

      The money he will make off the video will help compensate for the headaches at the very least, lol.

    • @scottsquires6186
      @scottsquires6186 5 місяців тому

      It’s more yamAjunk

  • @kurtyoung6769
    @kurtyoung6769 Рік тому +90

    These bikes are one of the best and most reliable 250 f's ever built! The problem is with people not doing proper maintenance for 20 years. That kick starter probably broke because its been kicked a million times and most of those with loose valves boosting compression.

    • @jessefinneman7680
      @jessefinneman7680 Рік тому +6

      Kick start axle is hollow and four strokes are not reliable at all.

    • @nickhardy9895
      @nickhardy9895 Рік тому +5

      Maintenance is key regular valve clearance check is a must especially on these 250f machines !

    • @jasonluhmer4792
      @jasonluhmer4792 Рік тому +5

      @@jessefinneman7680 incorrect, 4 strokes indeed are reliable as long as you know how to own one and have the money to properly maintain one. 4 strokes are high maintenance and a pain in the ass

    • @stmboat
      @stmboat Рік тому +1

      @@wyaspence dude this model came out in 98 and changed like 4 times before 03.

    • @mareksumguy1887
      @mareksumguy1887 Рік тому

      Loose valves boosting compression?!? 🤣🤣🤣
      Dumbest crap iv ever heard!

  • @4fiddy_a_aron
    @4fiddy_a_aron Рік тому +58

    Ive noticed a common theme with bikes that take a long time to kick over, you twist the throttle like a million times, these bikes have accelerator pumps that squirt fuel directly in the cylinder with each turn. Proper cold starts only require 2 turns of the throttle then you add your choke, and maybe raise the idle. But dont go kicking it with the throttle open

    • @robgraybeal8089
      @robgraybeal8089 Рік тому +7

      I noticed that he has a really bad habit of twisting the throttle every single time that he tries to kick something. That is a really bad habit and only makes everything harder to start.

    • @jakeowens1770
      @jakeowens1770 Рік тому +7

      The guy makes too much work for himself. Bikes that don't start in 10 kicks, you taxi it to the longest hill in your neighborhood

    • @OrdinaryJoe12
      @OrdinaryJoe12 11 місяців тому +1

      Ive seen videos of starter devices that spin the wheel, why not use one of these??

    • @4fiddy_a_aron
      @4fiddy_a_aron 11 місяців тому +7

      @jojocall cuz you don't need that lol, if it's not starting it 1 or 2 kicks, you're doing something wrong or the bike isn't tuned properly

    • @scooby2142
      @scooby2142 6 місяців тому +3

      Ive noticed that after 200 kicks - he goes full ham on the kickstarter and snaps the shaft.......I would have stopped after 15 to 20 and then looked further into the problem.

  • @ironlungs1626
    @ironlungs1626 Рік тому +51

    Please look up the starting technique for these bikes. Everyone seems to hate on the Yamaha's but i find them great. You only need to blip the throttle twice before starting. as the carburetor will spit fuel into the engine with every blip... so you giving it a million twists before starting it will 100% cause it not to fire..

    • @ironlungs1626
      @ironlungs1626 Рік тому +7

      I might also add that a common problem on these is the diaphragm that creates the pressure to squirt the fuel from the carb into the engine which is located in the accelerator pump, gets hard and perishes. remove carb and make sure that it is indeed working. my bet is that's your issue. un bury the bike and it should be a simple fix.
      If its hard to start it would be from
      A. Restricted/Nil fuel coming from the accelerator pump as it is not engaging when you blip the throttle on pre start-up.
      B. When it was running it was running terrible because when the engine is under load and your turning the throttle back and increasing speed, again... the throttle pump is not squirting that extra amount of fuel in that it needs.
      Also, backfiring is an indication that it is running lean and by the sounds of it, it was running lean on acceleration which again points towards an accelerator pump issue.
      I have multiple Yamaha 4 - strokes of this general era. Wr400 1998, Wr250 2001, Wr426 2001 & a Yz426 2001. Each one will have a 15 step starting procedure but each will start first kick. (They just need a lil lovin). What I can tell you is even the 250 will not start even on a steep hill on a gravel driveway such as yours. The compression is simply too high.

    • @insanetaco98
      @insanetaco98 10 місяців тому +3

      Yup. And the fact it's probably not even jetted correctly. But the FCR accel pump diaphragms also decide to disintegrate often

  • @w3bjnk13
    @w3bjnk13 Рік тому +191

    Dont give it gas! On the older 4 strokes they flood easy. every time you twist the throttle you squirt gas in. Follow the starting procedure.

    • @bobhemphut4011
      @bobhemphut4011 Рік тому +2

      It can be like that.

    • @njb7209
      @njb7209 Рік тому +20

      First thing I thought was pull the plug (wet.)😮

    • @oakesiii3412
      @oakesiii3412 Рік тому +25

      He does it on every video. he does it for the comments 😂

    • @sparkie9947
      @sparkie9947 Рік тому +10

      Believe it, WebJunkie is telling the truth. Every other bike might like a little throttle to start but NOT this bike!

    • @BEEZ-R
      @BEEZ-R Рік тому +5

      My 99 blaster. If you choked it. It was never starting. So I learned quick , no choke.

  • @user-hj7hp1bc9e
    @user-hj7hp1bc9e 9 місяців тому +17

    Everyone with a older Yamaha like myself was definitely yelling at you everytime you blipped the throttle a thousand times. 😂😂 great work and love your content man!

    • @Sunspot-19
      @Sunspot-19 2 місяці тому +1

      Oh, come on!! Joe has restless wrist syndrome!!

  • @michaeljustice8958
    @michaeljustice8958 Рік тому +36

    I would consider purchasing the factory intake cam to put back in it and re-checking valve clearances after install.

    • @skydemon02
      @skydemon02 Рік тому +4

      Exactly what I was thinking!

    • @Mxmad727
      @Mxmad727 Рік тому +1

      💯👌

    • @jonathanknight2395
      @jonathanknight2395 Рік тому

      Tight or bent valves

    • @fenderbender2446
      @fenderbender2446 Рік тому +11

      Any maybe buying a oem carb rather than using that Chinese carb and wondering why he’s having so many issues !!

    • @tanmansbikebuilds931
      @tanmansbikebuilds931 Рік тому +4

      I literally have an 04 that I bought running the exact same way till I took out the hot cams someone put in there and put stock cams off e bay and re shimmed it and it runs like a dream to this day. I did this 3 years ago. Was quite upset to see him give up and bury it so quick

  • @OSXMan
    @OSXMan Рік тому +24

    We've all been in a similar headspace when dealing with anything used. I think I'd part it out, rather than burying it. But, I certainly understand the emotion.

  • @firstname5418
    @firstname5418 Рік тому +88

    "Whoever wants it for free come unbury it from my backyard"😂😂😂

    • @michaelmays9292
      @michaelmays9292 Рік тому +12

      Not very many bikes he didn't get running. In my opinion he came a long way as a bike mechanic

    • @MR-puffnstuff
      @MR-puffnstuff Рік тому +4

      It buried under sand for a reason it is just a point like a saying and this is for show it is not still there.

    • @andrewwilson9130
      @andrewwilson9130 Рік тому +4

      I'll take it😂😂 where are you located?😂

    • @andrewwilson9130
      @andrewwilson9130 Рік тому +4

      Did you check Valve clearance?

    • @jasonjgr8580
      @jasonjgr8580 Рік тому +2

      That sucks man .

  • @tydavis27
    @tydavis27 Рік тому +9

    Every issue you named I've encountered with my 2003 yz250f....replaced everything broken got it running 100%(was ALWAYS a pain to kick but once it's warm 1st kick every time) and then swapped for 2010 raptor. I have to admit they are easy to work on until you get coolant leaking into motor when seals and o rings go bad and you have to find out which one is the culprit. Once you fix something another thing breaks. I told the guy who wanted to swap that he HAS to maintain and check everything on this bike after EVERY ride even if it's 10 minutes of riding lol.

  • @nobbybrown8056
    @nobbybrown8056 Рік тому +13

    The secret to stopping the kick start from breaking is to cushion the kick by installing a piece of stiff rubber (car suspension rubber bush) as a bump stop where the kick start contacts the footrest, also it is much less pain for your foot/leg/knee.

    • @bramvermaat1453
      @bramvermaat1453 5 місяців тому +1

      Also, not kicking 600 times helps.

  • @GH-wt7ww
    @GH-wt7ww Рік тому +108

    Hats off to you Joe, your persistance and patience is a big part of your success. Next video "How long does it take to burn a 2003 Yamaha YZ250F to the ground".

  • @ChrisSmith-nm8gb
    @ChrisSmith-nm8gb Рік тому +49

    I would have probably stuck that one deep in the corner by now. That’s why I like my 2 strokes.

    • @Owen.o2
      @Owen.o2 Рік тому +4

      Can never go wrong with the ol 2 smokers easy to work on fun to ride and never have issues and when they do it’s cheep and easy.

    • @treywyrick2907
      @treywyrick2907 Рік тому

      even then they have problems but thats anything. ive never rode or owned a two stroke but heard they tourqy asf never heard much bad abt em other then how noisy they are

    • @treywyrick2907
      @treywyrick2907 Рік тому

      @Jake Demuss a two stroke car?? you mean golf cart? two strocks got fuel econemy

    • @shawntblin5423
      @shawntblin5423 9 місяців тому

      2 strokes are night and day easier to rebuild. This bike had carb issues and potentially needed a valve adjustment. Timing might have been one tooth off too. He didn’t mention replacing the pilot jet,, having it only start on choke is big sign that it was dirty.

  • @GuruBrew
    @GuruBrew Рік тому +24

    Hello, I like your vids. Just an observation about bump starting that I learned long ago. Push bike up to speed in neutral then get on the bike while rolling and jump down HARD on the seat while clicking into 1st gear. The jump on the seat is the key to a successful bump start. Give it a try and you will never forget it.

    • @gbrandow7753
      @gbrandow7753 Рік тому +4

      Yup gotta but weight to the rear end to put traction on the rear wheel. And it helps when doing it on concrete or pavement.

    • @quietbrianquiet
      @quietbrianquiet Рік тому +16

      It is a gravel driveway with insane compression, if that were me pushing it up and down I would try to bump start it in 2nd for sure.

    • @nickolasvaughn667
      @nickolasvaughn667 Рік тому +4

      I always put my motorcycles in 2nd in jump on the seat and let the clutch out works every time

    • @dustcommander100
      @dustcommander100 Рік тому

      I think you will dig that thing up and get it going soon! Isn't this the first one you couldn't master? I think you can do it!

    • @margaretwilkinson9140
      @margaretwilkinson9140 Рік тому

      @@quietbrianquiet i was gonna add this as well. if it's got a ton of compression use a higher gear and slam your butt on the seat exactly when you let out the clutch.

  • @raptor686bl
    @raptor686bl 9 місяців тому +6

    My brother had the YZ400F and those older bike have a starting procedure. If you follow it they fire right up.
    1. No throttle none
    2. Choke on
    3. Slowly kick the bike till you reach TDC then go just past TDC.
    4. Kick it normal.
    5. If it fails to start repeat 1-4.
    When it's warm you just pull the hot start and do steps 3 & 4.
    Since these bikes have a pumper carb you will flood them with just one or two turns of the throttle. I hope that helps someone with these bikes.

  • @samueljoseph9540
    @samueljoseph9540 Рік тому +24

    Lol guys don't worry his gonna retrieve it notice he didn't touch it once with the tractor. Next title the revival of the undead yzf250 dirt bike 😂.

    • @jamesclark4
      @jamesclark4 9 місяців тому

      That was bs im unsubbed hes got a ebay carb cheapo cam and twist the throttle 100 times then wonders why it wont start the accel pump is flooding it

    • @jamesclark4
      @jamesclark4 9 місяців тому

      And he never made another video on it

    • @pmbnet
      @pmbnet 4 місяці тому

      And he corked the exhaust. He is going to try again after sleeping on it a few times. Great ideas come from restful sleep.

  • @AdamCole0112
    @AdamCole0112 Рік тому +34

    Bro, long time watcher here. I give you major props for no cuss words on this beotch and to keep kicking. I was feeling sorry for you there at one point

    • @Edward-turtle
      @Edward-turtle Рік тому

      just stop saying interesting every 2 mins ......... makes you sound like a moron

    • @Gregrsmt
      @Gregrsmt 7 місяців тому

      No joke, unfortunately I would be cussing like a psycho. Haha... I was also thinking to put the cam back to where it was when he got it.

  • @Cartrik28
    @Cartrik28 Рік тому +8

    I got to old for this crap. Electric start and fuel injection for me. Knee hurt just watching you go at it. Had to go out and fire mine up and run a few lapse to vent my frustration empathy. Mine is 2020 Kawasaki klx 230r, of course it has its own quirks but never fails to fire right up. You are truly a machine and I don't know if I ever worked as hard as you do. Keep up the videos!

  • @twanospano5293
    @twanospano5293 Рік тому +11

    Maybe it would start if you would stop twisting the throttle 500 times and flooding it

  • @dominickserignese8837
    @dominickserignese8837 Рік тому +6

    I would not have given up. It would bug the heck out of me to give up on it. You have to be close, I mean you got it to run. Sometimes you just have to step back. Come back to it in a couple weeks when you're not so annoyed.

  • @davidconnor377
    @davidconnor377 Рік тому +11

    I may have to think if u put the stock cam shafts back in.. it might run the way it should

  • @bryonshuttt436
    @bryonshuttt436 Рік тому +1

    Joe i have seen you work miracles, it has to be something so obvious you can't even think of a problem . You are the man brother!!!

  • @18wheeler77
    @18wheeler77 Рік тому +2

    33:42 😂😂😂 omg you had me going for a minute! I thought you were building a ramp and was gonna jump it! 😂😂😂

  • @juanpereznet
    @juanpereznet 8 місяців тому +11

    Instead of ruining the bike by burying it, he should had made a series until fixed. I really enjoy his videos.
    The best tool of all is patience...

  • @greathornedowl3644
    @greathornedowl3644 Рік тому +6

    Thank you for another teaching moment. We enjoy your successes as well as your failures. It takes integrity to admit when you've made a mistake. "Compost? Yamaha's do not make good compost, old Harley's do." I was thinking ad for $ for parts, or a Yamaha shop that could use or give away to an unsuspecting victim.

  • @alexguretti1285
    @alexguretti1285 11 місяців тому +4

    Check the cam timing gear!
    Looks just like one I was working on. The cam had been tightened down too tight causing the timing gear to grab and turn slightly taking the timing out with it. The timing gear is pressed onto the cam with no bolts or pins to keep it in place and can be turned to mess up the valve timing.
    Looking at your vid bought up memories of my battle with the 250F I was working on.
    I even started changing out electrical components until I gave up and took it to my mechanic. I still have the offending cam in my office as a trophy/reminder!

  • @vincemarshall8550
    @vincemarshall8550 10 місяців тому +1

    hey mate just started watching from the uk ,good see you showing the lows as well as the highs of these bikes ,great to watch ,thanks

  • @jm721mx4
    @jm721mx4 Рік тому +8

    TDC, no throttle and they usually start pretty easily.

  • @michaeldixon6619
    @michaeldixon6619 Рік тому +9

    Just a little bit of advice please invest in a paddock starter it will help you a lot in starting bikes

  • @upperroomtoo
    @upperroomtoo Рік тому

    I was feeling your frustration. I bought my son a Yamaha PW80 and can't get it to run except at half throttle. New carb, crank seals, reeds, stator. AHHH! Glad to see you keep your cool on this one.

  • @johninedmond1991
    @johninedmond1991 10 місяців тому +1

    Great effort Man! You can’t win them all. You have done some great repairs. Burying this one is probably the best thing to do.

  • @buckroger5850
    @buckroger5850 Рік тому +5

    Dig it up and start over!! Think my friend, and may the force be with you 😂

  • @andremaingot1349
    @andremaingot1349 10 місяців тому +6

    The bike is great , I own one (exact year and bike) and yes they can be a pain however with enough research and knowledge you can find answers to every problem . Perhaps instead of kicking it to death , try more troubleshooting , I suggest checking the needle to make sure it’s the correct one as well as both jets sizes . Checking the starter jet and leak jet won’t hurt either, you can also try clearing the accelerator pump passage , the throttle slide gasket etc. the bike will start first kick no matter what 0:45 once it’s tuned properly and you don’t flood it by giving it too much gas on startup. Flick the throttle open twice, find TDC (top dead center) and it will start first kick.

  • @chadbarton3235
    @chadbarton3235 10 місяців тому +2

    I had the exact same bike. I fixed it up and it ran awesome. Yamaha makes a great product. I will continue to run Yamaha. Great video.

  • @ROTV-DanLockhart
    @ROTV-DanLockhart Рік тому +1

    That's one way to do it. We can all learn from this. Sometimes, it's just not worth it. Thanks, Joe.

  • @vinniejohns7895
    @vinniejohns7895 Рік тому +11

    My total sympathies. I know exactly how that feels when an engine just won't start. Your patience & endurance amazes me. I would have sledge hammered the damn thing down to a pulp first, before burying it.

    • @thomask.8533
      @thomask.8533 Рік тому +2

      Kick number 30+: get out the angle grinder and cut it into small pieces...

  • @MM_in_Havasu
    @MM_in_Havasu Рік тому +28

    Sometimes stuff like this happens, seems like Yamaha has a lot of issues with their bikes. They were like that many years ago(back to early '70's) and it evidently hasn't changed. A shame, because some of their bikes were pretty fast.
    You should look into investing in a motor-driven set of rollers to start the bike in, road race bikes use them in the pits to light off the bike. Beats heck out of kicking it until the kick shaft breaks off or you puke......
    Gimme a 2-stroke dirt bike any day over a 4-stroke throwaway MX bike. Thanks for a great video, Joe!

    • @theyzoomers
      @theyzoomers Рік тому +5

      It’s not the brand it’s the ppl that think they know how to fix them how many bikes dose this guy fix an you actually see bring riddin n not sold

    • @reggiexp69
      @reggiexp69 Рік тому

      @@theyzoomers yup...
      me and a friend wanted to restore a yamaha 450 yfz quad horrible.... 1000€ god damn fragile piece of poop.. had to change head cams with every thing with it... cause cams were eating the head... drove 7h up and 7h down to buy one somewhere with bent vavles but good cams and head... of a yzf bike.
      then we toke apart the carb but all the way we never should have... horrible carbs... i hate the quad its a 2004 ish i think. love my banshee and my raptor 350 im not sure i just fixed it so it gotta prove it self...

    • @theyzoomers
      @theyzoomers Рік тому

      @@reggiexp69 ya sometimes things are to far gone an sometimes it’s just the fact that you don’t know what your doing! You can’t blame the bikes it’s not there fault someone used an abused them an didn’t keep up on maintenance

    • @Cooper391
      @Cooper391 Рік тому +2

      @@reggiexp69 ANY condition carb can be cleaned

    • @reggiexp69
      @reggiexp69 Рік тому

      @@theyzoomers yeah that is also the problem... we bought it not running and the guy couldnt tell us anything about it..
      so we toke the head off (but did get it to start but we fuked it up more) the main jet was just in the carb boil... (so they had removed the airbox lit and put a bmc air filter in it i guess) so we fixed that and got it running and messed it up more, then toke of the head, and 2 cam screws were lose, and piston and cylinder fresh like piston clean AF like it might have ran 5h cylinder walls still had the brush marks, and the rod was a hot rod, so that means it was all rebuild at somepoint but by who and when we dont know.. that is the thing with old 450 or any fragile bike/quad u dont know whatr happend with it or who touched it

  • @gumbilitous2804
    @gumbilitous2804 10 місяців тому

    Hey i have a question. I am fully rebuilding my honda xr100, and some of the bearings dont roll smooth in the case, but when i pop em out they feel fine. Are they shot?

  • @bobhemphut4011
    @bobhemphut4011 Рік тому +1

    By the time it Kickstarts everybody is already back at the spot enjoying a cold beer

  • @chevguy8587
    @chevguy8587 Рік тому +4

    I just watched a guy do starting procedure.
    He can't stress enough do not touch the throttle when starting the bike.
    Choke only

  • @terryroberts1548
    @terryroberts1548 Рік тому +4

    Do not touch the throttle when kicking over. I own a 2001 yzf250 bought brand new, changed to hot cam in 2005 and the bike is still running strong🤟

  • @18wheeler77
    @18wheeler77 Рік тому +2

    Don’t give up, brother!!! You’ve never quit!

  • @K-Rivs
    @K-Rivs Рік тому +2

    Flooded the snot out of it before you even started kickin like a mad man. The old thumpers flood so essily!

  • @corvo1324
    @corvo1324 Рік тому +4

    It’s the carb. I would replace the carb and put the OEM jet size just to try it.

  • @noneofyourbusiness1683
    @noneofyourbusiness1683 Рік тому +10

    Hearing the way it sounded I’m still leaning towards timing

    • @frankhanes8005
      @frankhanes8005 Рік тому +2

      Me to. It looked the the one gear was off to me when he said it was right on the mark but it’s hard to say in a video. Plus I say carb needs work to.

  • @user-yo7lm7xh1t
    @user-yo7lm7xh1t Рік тому +2

    I to believe that there will be part 2 RISEN FROM THE DEAD EPISOLD! You are to good to let this whip you...of coarse I would have torched the s.o.b.!!!!

  • @andqt
    @andqt 5 місяців тому +1

    You are the most patient man I've ever seen on the internet 😂😂😂

  • @sandmanbub
    @sandmanbub Рік тому +3

    Hey Joe, if it were my bike, I'd bring that replacement cover to someone who could tig weld reinforce it. It'd be a shame to do all that work and have the weak design create further problems.

  • @djchanga2216
    @djchanga2216 Рік тому +4

    If I throttle my yz250f on a cold start like that it will never start. If I leave it alone and just pop the choke it starts on the first kick

  • @devilsadvocate1441
    @devilsadvocate1441 Рік тому +2

    Your patience far outweighs mine Joe. 😂

  • @NWoutdoorsman
    @NWoutdoorsman Рік тому +2

    It's easier to turn the engine over in a high gear when push starting next time try 4th or 5th to overcome the compression. Also I'm wondering if all the accelerator pumping flooded it out.

  • @Jamie-kb8ct
    @Jamie-kb8ct Рік тому +3

    I would have done the same thing 🤣 sometimes you just got to walk away

  • @tanmansbikebuilds931
    @tanmansbikebuilds931 Рік тому

    It’s the hot cams joe.. I have the exact same bike well an 04 but it had hot cams and ran the same way till I put the stock cams back in and re shimed the valves to the right clearance and to this day it runs like a dream. I did this repair 3 years ago and I still gap a 30ft table top every weekend.

  • @NemesisGrowz
    @NemesisGrowz Рік тому

    2 vintage one of my top 5 fav channels it’s always trial and error and I love that Make a roller starter so when you have to deal with bikes as hard as this just sit the back wheel on the roller and it will bump it for you.

  • @DaltonScharberg
    @DaltonScharberg Рік тому +3

    You actually buried it 😂

  • @shademirandalarson6793
    @shademirandalarson6793 Рік тому +18

    I have an 04 yz250f and its always been a great machine! Depends on who has taken care of em.

    • @jamesclark4
      @jamesclark4 9 місяців тому

      Have a 06 yz450f and i just replaced all the transmission gears 5th was slipping but all of them had been abused. Did a full carb rebuild and it starts first time cold or hot i love it

  • @codymullins4051
    @codymullins4051 Рік тому

    Research the starting procedure for those bikes, i was in the same boat as you ready to roll mine over a cliff, kicking and kicking and kicking. Once you figure out the starting procedure itll start 1st-2nd kick every time. After of course getting everything tuned correctly lol. Dont blame you for being frustrated. Cracked me up burying it 😂. You are the man.

  • @CRFHONDARIDER100
    @CRFHONDARIDER100 Рік тому +1

    I had an 02 wr400f it would start first kick if you followed the procedure but if you cranked the throttle have fun kicking. If it was hot and you cracked the throttle just let it be this was with the valves adjusted to spec. Had a love hate relationship with that bike . Ran great when it ran .

  • @mikeromine6495
    @mikeromine6495 Рік тому +9

    Dude has to be in pretty good shape kicking it that long.

  • @boxall587
    @boxall587 Рік тому +3

    I bet its got a cheap chinease carb on it, causing most of the problems, d

  • @mikesmith-yc3os
    @mikesmith-yc3os Рік тому +1

    Great video joe I think everyone has had something in there life that just will now work correct

  • @ArashiTheWolf
    @ArashiTheWolf 5 місяців тому

    Im curious, after setting the hotcam did you check intake valve clearance again?

  • @scottkellogg8145
    @scottkellogg8145 Рік тому +10

    Yamaha should have done a major recall

    • @richardaffonso
      @richardaffonso Рік тому +1

      Happy Memorial day Joe and family! Vinny! Good morning. Damn Joe,you weren't kidding 😂

    • @theyzoomers
      @theyzoomers Рік тому +3

      Is it the bike or the one working on it tho

    • @Mr.108st2x
      @Mr.108st2x Рік тому +1

      @@theyzoomers right lol all I ride is Yamaha and I never have any problems with my bikes

    • @Mr.108st2x
      @Mr.108st2x Рік тому +1

      @@theyzoomers and if I’m being honest I own a 2008 yz450 a 2016(favorite year) yz450 and a 2021 yz450f and my 2008 has been the best too me

    • @theyzoomers
      @theyzoomers Рік тому

      @@Mr.108st2x yep Same hear just like you see him rebuild all these bikes, and do all this work for these bikes, but you never actually see him riding the bikes, or testing them out more then 5 minutes after their: “faxed”

  • @keithfenwick5502
    @keithfenwick5502 Рік тому +3

    The early 400s you wasn’t supposed to twist the throttle when kicking it over, I had a 450 2003 no problems 🤔

    • @jarronmciver2199
      @jarronmciver2199 Рік тому +6

      never seen anyone try to start a dirtbike like that.. flood the crap out of it then kick it 50 times.

  • @robbieporter1612
    @robbieporter1612 Рік тому +1

    Got the 2o19 yz 45of which I is one of the best bikes I have ever had love it its so smooth and nice and a couple of yz 25o strokes which are so nice you have to get yourself yz 45of mate love your videos from the UK 🇬🇧

  • @fishwhisperer03
    @fishwhisperer03 Рік тому +2

    Known a handful of people with these , good bikes all in all , had one myself that probably had close to 300 hrs and zero issues

  • @kristisweet9471
    @kristisweet9471 Рік тому +3

    Joe, Please reconsider your actions, un-bury the bike, and part it out so that others may benefit from the good parts it contains and you may benefit from the $ the parted out parts bring in. This may be considered a set-back, but by no means does it need to be considered a total loss since there are still good parts that can be used by others to bring their bikes back to life.

  • @kalaharimine
    @kalaharimine Рік тому +9

    The condition of the frame alone is a clue. I think you need to go fishing in your boat and use this as an anchor. Hope your right leg recovers soon.

  • @andrewzetterman6539
    @andrewzetterman6539 Рік тому

    Did you ever take a look at the hot start cable? I had a similar problem with 08 YZ450F, wouldn't start unless you jump started it. Changed out the hot start cable and adjusted everything properly started first kick every time after that.

  • @matthewmmuchesko3098
    @matthewmmuchesko3098 Рік тому

    Maybe 93 Suzuki 350 street and trail I need a carburetor and I don't know what kind to get can you help me out thank you I don't know what brand they make I always heard you saying when you buy a carburetor I forget what brand there's a tube on his it snapped like a brass tube and then you want to get a replacement carburetor an after-market one we don't know where to get it thank you

  • @billbkr32ify
    @billbkr32ify Рік тому +7

    Having to kick it like that is why they break. Tune them right, and you don't have to kick them 50 plus times to start them.

    • @riccochet704
      @riccochet704 Рік тому +1

      all of the early to mid 2000's 4 stroke bikes were a PITA to kick start cold. I had a brand new 2008 CRF250 that just did not want to start. Friend had a 2005 KX250F same issue.

    • @billbkr32ify
      @billbkr32ify Рік тому +2

      @@riccochet704 I never had a problem tuning them. Idk 🤷‍♂️

    • @dakkadakka9189
      @dakkadakka9189 3 місяці тому

      ​@riccochet704 I don't have nearly the problems this guys having with my wr 426 though the previous owner gave up on starting it cause he would use choke and give throttle on hot summer days so I got it cheap, has oem parts and qaulity aftermarket parts where oem isn't available

  • @giwrgosdiesel7932
    @giwrgosdiesel7932 Рік тому +4

    You doing it wrong you dont need to raise the gas while you kickstarting it i used to have the same bike when i was younger

  • @carllampard2423
    @carllampard2423 Рік тому

    Had this trouble before, was a dodgy spark plug, have you tried a brand new one ?

  • @tradingarsenal9767
    @tradingarsenal9767 10 місяців тому

    I LOVE your videos! How much longer does it take you to film these?

  • @boxall587
    @boxall587 Рік тому +6

    You are flooding every time, d

  • @brianmooney7009
    @brianmooney7009 Рік тому +5

    Joe i feel your pain. Only bike i ever lost money on. Pos. 😊

  • @RTizZz22
    @RTizZz22 Рік тому +2

    i died laughing when the next scene cut to him digging a hole for the bike ! LMAO

  • @garyspencer2327
    @garyspencer2327 Рік тому

    I had a yamaha rd 250 only ran properly with petrol tank slightly raised from the frame turns out it was shorting on the coils..must be something weird like that..i know your tank us plastic but it might be upseting something..

  • @joemondragon530
    @joemondragon530 Рік тому +7

    I believe your kick starter most likely broke because your not properly using the manual decompression lever. I've had one since 02 and haven't had any problems with it, but anyone who doesn't know how to use the lever WILL NOT crank it which is like an anti theft mechanism in my opinion lol. Any way good luck and absolutely love your videos

    • @2vintage
      @2vintage  Рік тому +7

      It has a hotcams with an automatic decompression. The manual one was taken off because you don't need it with a hotcams.

    • @demonhd4234
      @demonhd4234 Рік тому +8

      ​@@2vintage hey man that carb is garbage by the sounds of it not wanting to take throttle and idling to high plus the no start put a better carb on it and should start easier

  • @932goldengates
    @932goldengates Рік тому +3

    lay off the gas when starting

  • @scottbellisle5581
    @scottbellisle5581 7 місяців тому

    Hey there,
    Happy New Year young man. I’ve learned a lot from watching you work on dirt bikes. When you tried to jump start the bike you ran with it and then got one it and released the clutch. First of all ash fault is the best surface to jump start it. But everytime you got on the bike, you should sit down in a hard way in your seat when you release the clutch so it overcomes the compression. The dirt wasn’t doing it either. But by sitting down hard the dirt might be ok jump starting. Let me know.
    Ciao,
    Scotty B

  • @davidchristianson1537
    @davidchristianson1537 Рік тому

    You are the calmest person I have ever seen!

  • @dezrtrat702
    @dezrtrat702 Рік тому +7

    Man please don’t give up on it, its the principle now. I feel like you’re a carb or cdi away from victory

    • @calenpage7730
      @calenpage7730 Рік тому

      He would of known that there just junk bikes

    • @chriscatley9932
      @chriscatley9932 Рік тому

      @@calenpage7730 he ain't gonna buy another one that's for sure

    • @dezrtrat702
      @dezrtrat702 Рік тому +2

      @@calenpage7730 I’m assuming you’re young or just new to motocross bikes, but it’s common knowledge that the early yz250f were one of the most reliable bike ever made. It’s cool that this guy fixes shit, but just because he can’t fix this one doesn’t mean 2nd gen yz250f are junk. Chances are you guys were in diapers when this bike came out, while I was reviewing these bikes for motocross action 👍

    • @calenpage7730
      @calenpage7730 Рік тому

      @@dezrtrat702 raced half my life and there junk and owned a shop for years I know bikes

  • @paulparmer2779
    @paulparmer2779 Рік тому +2

    You should also check the fuel lines from the tank to see if you are getting good fuel flow and check the exhaust to see if it's not clogged

    • @GeorgiaGrowGuy
      @GeorgiaGrowGuy Рік тому

      LOL, i think he probably started there not finished there.

    • @l81x16
      @l81x16 Рік тому

      it was squirting gas in the carb so i think thats a pretty good sign, and when it started it ran good so that shows that the exhaust isnt clogged

  • @peterorro883
    @peterorro883 3 місяці тому

    Fair enough! Some things just aren’t worth the aggravation. Love your work!

  • @davidcarnell6032
    @davidcarnell6032 Рік тому

    I'm not familiar with this at all, is this fuel injected ? if so the injectors may be faulty or maybe just clogged, I really have no idea, just wanted to be a help if I could

  • @AdrenalineRushMX
    @AdrenalineRushMX Рік тому +3

    that thing runs like total shit🤣

    • @2vintage
      @2vintage  Рік тому +1

      Yeah will all new parts! I don't get it

    • @AdrenalineRushMX
      @AdrenalineRushMX Рік тому

      @@2vintage yea i know better luck next time i guess 🤷‍♂️

    • @gymbruh1824
      @gymbruh1824 Рік тому

      Definitely the ruffest 4stroke iv heard

    • @masontimmons6958
      @masontimmons6958 Рік тому

      @2vintage I have a question for you about my old bike

  • @jamesclark4
    @jamesclark4 9 місяців тому

    My 06 450f starts first kick every time cold or hot think you might be flooding it with the acel pump or the carb is just garbo

  • @MOAONAABE
    @MOAONAABE Рік тому

    i bought a 75 XLCH harley in 75 new. first year AMF and they moved the shifter to the left using a jackshaft and some crazy foot long shifter levers. that was bad enough, but they made all the clutch and shifter brake levers from cast aluminum. in one tip over my clutch lever and my shifter lever just flat out broke like a cookie. and later my rear muffler support busted in two from vibration of a v twin hammer. i could braze the tubular bracket back, but the others had to be OEM. those were some black days. of course i had an enduro 360 at the same time and that thing ate headlights.

  • @dtfr69
    @dtfr69 Рік тому

    i hate to say this but did you check for leaky valves. also check to see if the woodruff key on the lower timing gear isn't sheared off. i have watched both video's on this bike and the only time i seen the lower timing gear is on this video and the key looked strange to me the key looks like it is flush with the crank shaft to me. if that gear did slip a bit it would have your valves cracked open at TDC and it will run like crap

  • @edensbounty6679
    @edensbounty6679 9 місяців тому +1

    I was thinking the bike is flooded. Definitely dig it back up, work on it in the background here and there and someday do a follow up as to what fixed it. I did not see you try it without loading the chamber up with fuel by pumping it. Also sometimes they don't even need to be choked. If that does not do it my guess is its that aftermarket carb..... Love your videos!

  • @dnickens20115
    @dnickens20115 10 місяців тому

    I use to have a 02 yz 250f. It was a POS...same as that bike..sold it & never looked back...great video 😁👍

  • @chadmoore7039
    @chadmoore7039 Рік тому

    Hey love your videos you are definitely the motorcycle King 👑 LOL 😆 hey do you sale any of these bikes you fix if so let me know how where thanks in advance....

  • @nathanmckerrow9059
    @nathanmckerrow9059 9 місяців тому +1

    The end is great 😂 we’ve all had those bikes that just wanted to die, not one of them have been a 2 stroke.

  • @michael_jullie2836
    @michael_jullie2836 Рік тому

    Bro UA-cam stopped recommending me your videos I’m subscribed and I have notifications on and I haven’t see a video in weeks been wondering wtf and until I had to search 2vintage to see you been posting

  • @Mrkpwsn
    @Mrkpwsn Рік тому

    My 2012 yz250f made that same noise under acceleration with a eBay carb. Cleaned up and put the stock one on, runs perfect now

  • @rwcasto
    @rwcasto Рік тому

    Joe you are awesome! Relentless patience !

  • @beckers1330
    @beckers1330 Рік тому +1

    You say it's a bad bike, but maybe a previous owner didn't look after and service it properly. These bikes require a crazy amount of maintenance and are solid bikes (YZ and WR)if maintained.

  • @andydouce7781
    @andydouce7781 5 місяців тому

    Love your videos bud could watch them all day, Heads up - when starting a bike you need to use the choke for a cold start -- No throttle ! You cause yourself so much grief by keep messing with the throttle bless ya 😂. And please clean the bikes before you start work on them lol. You have good mechanical skills 👍