Flat Bench VS Incline Bench

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  • @crazedmma0
    @crazedmma0 Рік тому +4515

    "Less strain on the joints." As he reps 405 on incline bench. 💀💀💀

    • @JPIQQG
      @JPIQQG Рік тому +79

      Imagine the weight he would be pressing if he went to failure and would not do as many sets or rested over minute between sets🤯

    • @ThyFilthyCasual
      @ThyFilthyCasual Рік тому +35

      You dropped this 💉

    • @yodamaster757
      @yodamaster757 Рік тому +11

      @@JPIQQG - He said in an interview that it wasn’t 405

    • @YouEatBabies1911
      @YouEatBabies1911 Рік тому +154

      @@ThyFilthyCasual That is literally the most irrelevant comment I’ve ever seen today

    • @milesshaw1590
      @milesshaw1590 Рік тому +10

      Just 3 plates

  • @wigletron2846
    @wigletron2846 Рік тому +2206

    I think that's the first time I've ever heard someone say incline was easier on their shoulders.

    • @Yoitsbobbyboy
      @Yoitsbobbyboy Рік тому +179

      Yeah it depends on the person I know people who can’t stand incline because it hurts their shoulders but I feel for me it’s significantly more comfortable on my shoulders than flat bench.

    • @stin35
      @stin35 Рік тому +95

      My shoulders die on incline barbell but incline dumbell is fine.

    • @john_m3619
      @john_m3619 Рік тому +17

      @@stin35 try using a close grip. Also way better in terms of upper chest activation

    • @oremilosavljevic309
      @oremilosavljevic309 Рік тому +21

      Every kind of bench works fine for me... Those who have a problem with shoulders shouldn’t have super wide grip

    • @stin35
      @stin35 Рік тому +7

      @@oremilosavljevic309 yeah man i have very long arms so i cant do close grip

  • @ajaymalik4473
    @ajaymalik4473 Рік тому +1507

    He chose his spotter such that he knows its life or death situation if anything goes wrong

    • @JPIQQG
      @JPIQQG Рік тому +84

      Knowing Jays training style the spotter doesnt really matter. My man did a fuck ton of sets short of failure with small rest time.

    • @jabbadabba1978
      @jabbadabba1978 Рік тому +38

      Jay is in such control of the weight he could easily dump it from side to side on his own even, at failure. Novice.

    • @TheBoon14
      @TheBoon14 Рік тому +9

      @@jabbadabba1978 he could easily dump a plate with 405 on the bar?? Lmao okay buddy

    • @jabbadabba1978
      @jabbadabba1978 Рік тому +38

      @@TheBoon14 without question. Pal.

    • @Eli-jk7yp
      @Eli-jk7yp Рік тому +18

      @@TheBoon14 he did more than 10 reps with those 405 and he didn't reach failure. I bet he can throw it on the floor infront of him if he fails.

  • @HerculesFit
    @HerculesFit Рік тому +187

    The ease at which he presses 405 is wild 💪

    • @pretty_flaco
      @pretty_flaco 9 місяців тому +2

      his spotter alone shows that 315 aint shit🧐

  • @big_ron3585
    @big_ron3585 Рік тому +59

    Jay was a lot stronger than he actually lifted but he’s a clever guy and that’s why he’s still in good health/shape now.

  • @horvathszilveszter
    @horvathszilveszter Рік тому +14

    4 plates and it looks like he’s doing it in a machine. Incredible control.

  • @stevearchuleta3640
    @stevearchuleta3640 Рік тому +199

    Thank you for your advice….I’m a 55 year old man getting back into muscle training

    • @williamcolon9280
      @williamcolon9280 Рік тому +28

      Give em hell

    • @JustTryingToYoutube
      @JustTryingToYoutube Рік тому +5

      I would consider looking into TRT could have many benefits to your physical and mental performance but also will allow you to build muscle properly as test levels go downwards after 40ish

    • @grandjunctionguy
      @grandjunctionguy Рік тому +7

      I'd suggest you stick with dumbbells for the best shoulder mobility as well

    • @stevearchuleta3640
      @stevearchuleta3640 Рік тому +7

      @@grandjunctionguy thanks…. I’ll take any advice… I’ve lifted before but this time I’m very serious about this…

    • @sergeantbigmac
      @sergeantbigmac Рік тому +6

      Good for you man and good luck. My Dad is 58 and ive seen his fitness+health rapidly decline in recent years. I know he is not gonna be as strong as he used to be but I wish he'd take better care of himself! He has kinda just given up on working out at a time where its probably the most important for his longevity.
      I dont know how to motivate him, hes never listened to me in my whole life and he prob wont start now lol

  • @Night_flight_fpv
    @Night_flight_fpv Рік тому +9

    His spotter is like:
    *”bro, if you fail a rep you’re on your own “*

  • @bananagun6598
    @bananagun6598 Рік тому +2

    fax on incline i feel more shoulder muscles working but less shoulder joint stress

  • @claybowman1242
    @claybowman1242 Рік тому +10

    If incline press was the standard we would see way more developed upper pecs, the flat barbell bench is great but slight incline dumbbell may be the true king of chest hypertrophy.

    • @mikearonson1071
      @mikearonson1071 Місяць тому

      Yes. If you are able to have that range of motion. The stretch on the muscle would be greater.
      I unfortunately can't due to shoulder injuries. I can do full ROM but not past that.

  • @frzmtl3849
    @frzmtl3849 Рік тому +4

    I noticed the reduced pain in shoulder for incline. Dropped the flat completely.

  • @oomenacka
    @oomenacka Рік тому +16

    I'm glad someone has finally voiced this opinion because I have felt this way for a long time. Flat bench was the source of my shoulder impingement and after 5 months in PT my physical therapist concluded that incline bench is just objectively safer for my shoulders. I'm now of the opinion that unless you're a powerlifter, flat bench can honestly be replaced with chest press machines, push ups, and the like, and you will find amazing results with significantly less cost. If you wanna build your chest, you don't have to rely on the bench, especially if it's hurting you.

    • @Reaper1808
      @Reaper1808 Рік тому

      Has tour shoulder impingement gone away? I have the same problem with flat bench

    • @oomenacka
      @oomenacka Рік тому +2

      @@Reaper1808 It has healed up tremendously but it's taken more than a half a year to be able to flat bench again. To this day it's pretty much the only exercise that really strains my shoulders regardless of grip width, foot placement, or arch. I think some body types just don't work well with benching

    • @Enokha
      @Enokha Рік тому

      interesting, what did you do to rehab your impingement?

    • @oomenacka
      @oomenacka Рік тому +1

      @@Enokha A myriad of stretching and strengthening techniques, a lot of needling, and importantly a ton of time away from overhead lifts and especially bench. A big problem for me was overreliace on and a disproportionate development of my delts compared to my rotator cuff muscles so I spent a lot of time strengthening the rotator cuffs and carefully perfecting my form on every other exercise. It was pretty humbling to stop lifting so needlessly heavy and focus more on what my body was telling me. To this day it never 100% healed and the occasional small twinges of pain serve as ego-checks to be careful and respect my body.

    • @Notyourhandle777
      @Notyourhandle777 Рік тому +1

      Bro 💯

  • @Pitbull14218
    @Pitbull14218 Рік тому +21

    I feel soo much more comfortable flat benching. Incline I also take it easier as I worry more about my shoulders vs flat.

    • @bchandy98
      @bchandy98 Рік тому +3

      Opposite for me lol

    • @Pitbull14218
      @Pitbull14218 Рік тому

      @Slimothy James how do you train your chest?

    • @Wishmaster787
      @Wishmaster787 Рік тому +7

      ​@Slimothy James Flat bench with barbell is only necessary for powerlifting meets. If you're just looking to build muscle and get stronger you won't be penalised much for avoiding barbell flat bench.

    • @Mrbobcat7
      @Mrbobcat7 5 місяців тому

      Same here. Inclines bother my rotator cuffs, but I have always had lagging upper pecs. I have found machine inclines are more comfortable to me. I prefer declines over flat too and always did flat or decline before incline because I could use more weight thinking it would lead to more mass, but thinking of doing inclines first to try to hit the upper chest harder.

  • @pedroveliz4131
    @pedroveliz4131 Рік тому +26

    Straight to the point!
    Thanks jay for sharing the valuable information,we appreciate you!
    God bless y’all!

  • @vr2k8
    @vr2k8 Рік тому +29

    Agreed, always do incline rather than flat.

  • @timothyramponi6921
    @timothyramponi6921 9 місяців тому +3

    Information like this is why Jay's the 🐐!!

  • @marcludwick5941
    @marcludwick5941 4 місяці тому +1

    I agree on less strain on shoulder joint during incline. Flat bench has always made my shoulders feel uncomfortable compared to incline. I think theres more drain on the shoulders, during incline, but less strain.

  • @jimmy_olds
    @jimmy_olds 5 місяців тому +1

    Years ago decline tore my rotator cuff with an audible pop, and was barely able to re-rack the bar. I pretty much only do dumbbells these days, if not on a machine. Just recently started watching some of these guys on YT and now focus on incline bench.

  • @GJ-DT
    @GJ-DT Рік тому +42

    Exact opposite for me, incline and front shoulder press absolutely kills my shoulders. I go all out on flat bench and behind the head shoulder press and my shoulders feel great.

    • @wigletron2846
      @wigletron2846 Рік тому +8

      Same here. Some people just have a different shoulder structure.

    • @JOHNPT10
      @JOHNPT10 Рік тому +10

      At the end of the day do what works for you and you comfort level

    • @GJ-DT
      @GJ-DT Рік тому

      @@JOHNPT10 exactly

    • @sioux685
      @sioux685 Рік тому +3

      He's talking about the shoulder joint (including ligaments, socket etc) not the shoulder muscle. .the shoulder muscle he says is being used more during the incline

    • @ludlowbuckley5373
      @ludlowbuckley5373 10 місяців тому +3

      Icnline kills your shoulders but behind the neck shoulder press doesn’t? 🤔 lol

  • @SchwarzSchwertkampfer
    @SchwarzSchwertkampfer Рік тому +76

    Absolutely the hardest, thanks my man for the motivation💜💜💜

    • @jigarzasu
      @jigarzasu Рік тому +1

      That’s what she said…allegedly.

    • @peab9179
      @peab9179 Рік тому +1

      69th like. LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @SchwarzSchwertkampfer
      @SchwarzSchwertkampfer Рік тому +1

      I sense a disturbance in the force.

  • @jdog7797
    @jdog7797 Рік тому +3

    No one ever talls about the wrists handling all this weight like a total boss. They never get the credit that they deserve, it's wild to think about.

  • @aronmaslan6604
    @aronmaslan6604 Рік тому +91

    "When you wake up in the morning, I believe going to the bathroom and then taking a shower is a great way to start the day." Jay Cutler 2023

    • @VeinyDickTracy
      @VeinyDickTracy Рік тому

      Mike O’Tren disagrees with Jay and he wants to instruct Jay on what he does in the morning to start the day.

    • @novelaego2404
      @novelaego2404 Рік тому +3

      lol

    • @R_A_3000
      @R_A_3000 Рік тому +1

      Yep gotta do those two things in the morning or else it's gonna be a bad day. 😁

    • @jdog7797
      @jdog7797 Рік тому +2

      Hopefully in that order. 😊

  • @BigstickNick
    @BigstickNick Рік тому +15

    I like to do just one notch up on the bench sometimes. Seems to be a good sweet spot

  • @OBExperienced_one
    @OBExperienced_one Рік тому +6

    Yes, the incline bench is also my first choice. I feel the chest better with that. And I can see the difference. I combine incline bench press (more for upper chest) with dips (lower chest).

  • @kylemcmeekin2988
    @kylemcmeekin2988 Рік тому +1

    4 plates incline bench oh my. Jay still looking great even now man is JACKED!!!! Great content from a legend.

  • @MeatPez
    @MeatPez Рік тому +8

    I couldn’t agree more. I always felt much more comfortable in an incline press as far as shoulder strain.

  • @Howard007
    @Howard007 Місяць тому

    Worst spotter grabbing the bar so much when he’s still repping it out

  • @thomasgumersell9607
    @thomasgumersell9607 Рік тому +4

    Great video I only do incline st bar bench. A flat bench I save for my Dumbell Pullovers, plus some dumbell flyes. I'm 56 yrs old and have trained for 40 yrs. Really enjoy your video and advice. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨

  • @AronHallan
    @AronHallan Рік тому +1

    Jay quad stomp Cuttler, absolute legend!.

  • @rodolfofarfan6589
    @rodolfofarfan6589 Рік тому

    And this why Jay is great condition for his age after all his hard training! Respect!

  • @drew9759
    @drew9759 Рік тому +3

    Incline is so underrated.

  • @bigboy5428
    @bigboy5428 Рік тому +6

    Love the old school training videos of you Jay they where and are still the best always made me laugh when your Wife(girlfriend) used to help you spot 😂👍🇳🇿

  • @ImproveTodayy
    @ImproveTodayy Рік тому +1

    I always prioritize the upper chest, it's helped a lot with my chest's aesthetic in general.

  • @VPROXE-HELLRAISER
    @VPROXE-HELLRAISER 9 місяців тому +1

    Wow this natty looks amazing 😜

  • @jesusplol
    @jesusplol 9 місяців тому

    Can confirm that it's easier for me to do go up to 225 on an incline bench rather than a flat bench

  • @marloncosey8744
    @marloncosey8744 6 місяців тому

    YO BIG BRUTHA JAY… I LIKE HOW YOU DO THE INCLINE PRESS AT A 30* DEGREE SETTING TO EMPHASIZE CHEST SND SHOULDERS I AM GOING TO PUT THAT IN MY PULL WORKOUT REGIMEN… THANX DAWG👊🏿💯🙏🏿

  • @corie_1032
    @corie_1032 9 місяців тому +1

    Jay Cutler could've passed for an adult film star back then 😂

  • @samsungsmiley1
    @samsungsmiley1 Рік тому +2

    Interesting that he says that, because I feel like im the opposite. I strain my shoulders every time I incorporate incline push movements for a prolonged period of time.

  • @edwardbanta4114
    @edwardbanta4114 Рік тому +3

    Yo Jay keep posting 👍👍👍👍👍right on point !!!

  • @InTheLifeOfAnArtist
    @InTheLifeOfAnArtist 8 днів тому

    Jay does the best. ❤

  • @jCrItCh5
    @jCrItCh5 Рік тому +1

    I don't know if that birds gonna manage that wieght if it goes

  • @Geoshow727
    @Geoshow727 9 місяців тому

    Kneeling landmine press works great on the upper pecs and helps create that defined look.

  • @adamp6118
    @adamp6118 Рік тому +1

    "Comfortability"

  • @A9I4Q6Y5R2NC
    @A9I4Q6Y5R2NC Рік тому +1

    i was literally thinking of making the switch to flat bench on tomorrows push day but after reading yalls comments i think me & my rotator cuffs are happy on the incline 💀

  • @TeutobergForestryService
    @TeutobergForestryService Рік тому +1

    Jay is repping 4 plates on incline. His shoulder joints are made of diamond.

  • @Dainamight
    @Dainamight Рік тому +5

    Ngl that female spotter is grabbing the bar too much lol

    • @plusxz821
      @plusxz821 Рік тому +2

      what is she gonna do if the bar falls

    • @AS-bu9rw
      @AS-bu9rw Рік тому +2

      ​@@plusxz821 Practically no person is going to be able to do much at all if the bar dropped from his hands.

    • @SiLoMixMaster
      @SiLoMixMaster 2 місяці тому

      @@plusxz821 Scream for help

  • @tranhaola3638
    @tranhaola3638 Рік тому +4

    Hi Jay, Could you make a video tell about pain in training : shoulder pain, neck pain, knee pain, lower back pain, elbow pain,ankle pain, thoracic spine... And how to avoid, how to recover. Thanks

  • @diegoconchas8354
    @diegoconchas8354 9 місяців тому

    Actually worked for me, I had shoulder pain on bench press and incline no longer have it

  • @knine9178
    @knine9178 Рік тому +2

    "Less strain on the joints." I'm calling cap on that, I've injured my rotator cuff more times on incline than I ever did on flat bench. I don't think I ever injured my rotator cuff on flat bench actually.

  • @LuisSantos-vm9ce
    @LuisSantos-vm9ce Рік тому

    "More of the shoulders" yeah, my left one would agree😅

  • @Zakzattak
    @Zakzattak Рік тому +3

    Incline ruined my shoulders I'm pretty certain

  • @martysonn
    @martysonn Рік тому

    It's like when teacher asks u a question and u don't know the answer

  • @kevinm7523
    @kevinm7523 Рік тому +1

    I've always found I can go heavier on incline as well

  • @davidolatunji119
    @davidolatunji119 Рік тому

    Decline press is my favorite and feels best on my shoulders

  • @antisocialstoner5887
    @antisocialstoner5887 10 місяців тому

    Huge fan Jay and I'm loving your content💯

  • @detachedloop1004
    @detachedloop1004 Рік тому +1

    This might have been said taking into consideration that everyone tries to hit PRs on flat benches and no one really cares about weight on the inclines

  • @FatDadLovesJesus
    @FatDadLovesJesus Рік тому

    Me too, because laying flat requires a pillow when you have big traps and thick back, your heads just floating there or falling back bending your neck

  • @marloncosey1190
    @marloncosey1190 Рік тому

    THANX JAY… I WILL NOW DO MORE INCLINE BENCH TO WORK ON CHEST..(upper chest)…

  • @error2796
    @error2796 Рік тому +1

    I always hit my 5x5 flat, then hit my 3x10 with different inclines. Throw in some dips at the end and your chest is screaming after.

  • @nunchukGun
    @nunchukGun 5 місяців тому

    I'm learning bench still (mainly did dips up til now) and I've been finding this to be true but thought it was just me

  • @rgfit2712
    @rgfit2712 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for the tips bro 💪

  • @thouveninvijayan3073
    @thouveninvijayan3073 Рік тому +1

    You want to work your upper pecs ? Do lateral shrugs on a low pulley.

  • @jerrelbruce6579
    @jerrelbruce6579 Рік тому

    I've been doing this for years. I haven't done flat for awhile

  • @nihalatk4296
    @nihalatk4296 7 місяців тому

    Incline barbell press and flat Dumbell press ❤

  • @jordanwardere784
    @jordanwardere784 Рік тому

    Online barbell destroys my shoulders so hard,. I can't do it. But even flat makes problems now

  • @holzmlb
    @holzmlb Рік тому +1

    I always like incline in hs, the guys who brought there ass two feet off the flat bench couldnt do that on incline and there weights level dropped but since i never lift my but off the bench my incline was always way better than theres

  • @MrTraveller.
    @MrTraveller. Рік тому +1

    Thanks Jay💯
    Priceless information

  • @aarongruber2978
    @aarongruber2978 Рік тому +13

    Chest is really the hardest workout to get a mind muscle connection but once you really learn how to engage it ur g

    • @nathanxs7001
      @nathanxs7001 Рік тому +2

      For me it was back

    • @wheelbarrow23
      @wheelbarrow23 9 місяців тому

      Man back and legs are hard for me. Tbh I can't even do it with my legs. I just push heavy ass weight on squats and hope I can get it for 5 or 8.

    • @MC-nt7jz
      @MC-nt7jz 8 місяців тому

      i got huge back and legs and chest is the hardest for me to grow properly

    • @johndo3760
      @johndo3760 6 місяців тому

      Nah chest is easy just do dips , lats is hard though

  • @omarrthaHanafi
    @omarrthaHanafi 10 місяців тому

    Thanks Jay!!!

  • @acekabogen
    @acekabogen Рік тому

    I wish my gym had a stationary incline bench

  • @davidhopkins848
    @davidhopkins848 Рік тому

    Love starting off my chest session with incline bench. I'm stronger on incline to gonna do a chest and shoulder session today

  • @nicksvlogcastchannel361
    @nicksvlogcastchannel361 11 місяців тому

    Glad to see in the comments I wasn't the only one dumbfounded by the less strain on the joints comment for incline bench. I have a very respectable flat bench strength but struggle to up weight on incline only because my shoulders feel terrible doing incline. Interesting he feels different. Do agree though that its an area people struggle with and it is super important physique wise.

  • @RedCandleWax24
    @RedCandleWax24 Рік тому

    Jay’s barbell pressing comes in very high on the chest. Essentially clavicle, like a guillotine press. Quite extraordinary and will definitely pump the chest as long as the shoulders remain externally rotated to avoid discomfort.

  • @edgarbolden5742
    @edgarbolden5742 Рік тому

    The King of the Incline Press

  • @sadfrew4rewfadsfg
    @sadfrew4rewfadsfg Рік тому

    true Jay, its also goo fou building a good front shoulder shape that fits to your chest and to me it's also easier to my shoulders
    hugs bro

  • @Pirustae
    @Pirustae Рік тому +1

    Nah, I feel safer doing the regular flat press

  • @wallpaper5300
    @wallpaper5300 Рік тому

    I do both, back to back.

  • @alilifting2289
    @alilifting2289 11 місяців тому +1

    I love both but I burn out my chest with incline better

  • @knowledgeispower36
    @knowledgeispower36 Рік тому +9

    I stopped doing flat bench a while ago because it would hurt my elbows for some reason , even when I would adjust my form and grip and once I switched to incline between two different positions it would engage my chest way more and it's way more comfortable

  • @okaynope5197
    @okaynope5197 Рік тому

    Literally he said the opposite while he was competing. I don't know what to think anymore.

  • @kevinthomas2906
    @kevinthomas2906 Рік тому

    I tore my pec to shreds on that bench 😢 will never look at flat bench the same again.

  • @apexofc2986
    @apexofc2986 6 місяців тому

    Jay's spotter is the strongest in the gym

  • @williscox6025
    @williscox6025 Рік тому +1

    Are you supposed to do all 3? Flat/ inclined/ decline bench and chest fly movements. 😊

  • @AZ-gs6hj
    @AZ-gs6hj Рік тому

    I feel the same. Flat BB feels horrible on the shoulders for me especially when going heavy. Incline feels amazing. Dumbbell flat is good though.

  • @jeffweaver955
    @jeffweaver955 Рік тому +1

    I like how hes got this skinny girl spotting him lifting 1000 lbs

  • @1ondonbet.851
    @1ondonbet.851 6 місяців тому

    Props to him for letting a woman spot him😅

  • @trancemadmaz
    @trancemadmaz Рік тому

    He has the greatest American voice in history 😂

  • @petercsigo3314
    @petercsigo3314 Рік тому +2

    Incline bench press definitely not safer

  • @CAUGHT_U_LACKIN
    @CAUGHT_U_LACKIN Рік тому

    I actually incline more challenging so that’s why I’ve used that over the flat Bench

  • @kwiwj17731
    @kwiwj17731 Рік тому

    I always feel weird doing incline

  • @cutthroatmob3707
    @cutthroatmob3707 10 місяців тому

    I can’t do the flat bench or the incline bench as good as the smith or dumbbell presses but I’m still working on it

  • @jeanrojas4267
    @jeanrojas4267 Рік тому

    He is right, flat bench will put more "painful" strain on your front delts, kind of the Arnold press behind the head, or the lat pulldown behind the head.

  • @andy1986a
    @andy1986a Рік тому

    Got no problems with my upper pec finding it harder to hit the lower 😅

  • @keithpetersen560
    @keithpetersen560 Рік тому

    Really good information

  • @weskarp2259
    @weskarp2259 Рік тому

    I'll list to Charles glass for decline bench is the best thing overall. This rookie just juiced up to build his muscles.

  • @dbizz8642
    @dbizz8642 9 місяців тому +1

    Incline kills my shoulders 😢

  • @roxycolon628
    @roxycolon628 4 місяці тому

    405 in incline this bro is COVID 💀💀

  • @laszlofejes402
    @laszlofejes402 Рік тому

    100% agreed Jay!!

  • @serlingdavis8840
    @serlingdavis8840 Рік тому

    Thank you ❤

  • @RedHoodFH
    @RedHoodFH 8 місяців тому

    Who knew the bears former QB was so jacked