she’s probably asking so many questions because we literally aren’t taught anything about it in Muslim households, some parents just don’t like to talk about it at home
Because why should they speak about something that is a big sin in Islam Do you approach males among the worlds(165).And leave what your Lord has created for you as mates? But you are a people transgressing."(166) Do you indeed approach men with desire instead of women? Rather, you are a people behaving ignorantly
It depends so much mine ugh I refuse to talk about them my blood boils when I think of them I only really knew because of the Internet school didn't teach me jack nor did my Muslim family (i'ven't a clue if my brother is a Muslim or if like me he got severely turned off and became an atheist or something else)
@@hafsahashi3032 do not generalise the lgbtq+ community, lmao. this isn't even about the video anymore. "you lgbtq+ people take everything into offense", I suppose we do, after being killed for centuries. you don't even know if that person was apart of the community, you just assumed because they had an issue with the way she acted. 😐 and regarding the way she acted, she was trying to educate herself further. though I can't see whether or not she was coming to terms with true respect. none of us truly know that. but people need to ask questions to educate themselves.
The questions were pretty offensive tho ngl... did you see her face?? Shes like please just stoppoppoooppp😭😭 i get she was curious but she made her feel pretty uncomfortable
@@micahmika3422 Google is gona explain to her generally it s not gona know what Lucas s experience was and maybe her parents monitor her computer and she s not allowed to look for stuff like this...she s trying to know more about the person in front of her that s how you make friends especially at 13
@@iamnotokaywiththis6963 Hahaha I kinda relate to irl Noah Centineo ngl but yeah his characters don't act like teenagers and he doesn't look particularly young .
Im fine with transgender surgery for adults but not for kids. All this country's laws are based on consent and you u need to be 18 to consent and gender reassignment surgery one of those things that should be based on consent as it's such a big descion
@Nadia the law’s so stupid cause I was sure of my gender by the age of 5 and by 18 you’ll have almost finished puberty which totally defeats the point 😭
@Nadia it's not bs. The drugs often make you infertile along with other lifelong changes and people DO change their mind. The reason it is banned is because the NHS (national health service) was sued by a girl whom this happened to (Keira Bell). The NHS is funded by taxpayers and decided that it would not harm for people to wait until adulthood to make informed consent (which legally they cannot do in UK in matters pertaining to health until 18).
In the actual full show they really didn’t get along, bc Kieran chose not to accept that she is transgender. They got partnered together for a day too and in the end became friends.
That's why I felt something odd in the video, Taman thanks for saying that in the comments section cuz I was lost when I saw people saying that she was asking alot of question and yea.
It’s really nice to see someone so willing to learn about others and especially at that age- I think this should be encouraged everywhere as long as the questions stay respectful and the Person being questioned is comfortable
@@tallulahrose9368 i mean it kinda was a social experiment they mixed 2 different schools together so everyone could learn about their differences but yh😂
I wouldn't really call it an experiment. Anything the schools are doing would be based off of a plan, that plan would have been a fully informed decision. So they would have based thier actions on research that shows methods like this (encouraging diversity) aids in childrens development etc. So, not really and experiment. More so a form of inclusive action.
@@atn6033 ahh okay, so gender has typically been understood as a binary (meaning involving 2 things). On one side is 'man' and on the other is 'woman'. In reality, gender is a lot more fluid than that, and someone could be somewhere in the middle, or not even on the spectrum! Being Non-Binary then, means not being able to place your gender on the binary of 'man' and 'woman'. It's more of an umbrella term though, as there are many gender identities that fit within it. I'd recommend googling it if you want to know more! Alternatively there's a really interesting group on Facebook called 'Transgender Education and Discussion' that I recommend! I'm personally okay with answering these sorts of questions, but the emotional and mental labour of having to explain oneself over and over again can be tiring, so other Trans/Non-Binary people may not be as willing, hence why I recommended the FB group :) hope that helps!
at least she's being open minded by asking and acknowledging that it's good to step out of her comfort zone and meet different types of people - this way, the younger generations won't be as ignorant and intolerant as much as our seniors.
@@ibnhassanq657 Yes as much as one has the freedom to believe that homosexuality/transgenderism is right, we have the same freedom and right to believe it is wrong. Muslims believe drinking alcohol is a big sin but it doesn't mean we have to hate people who do so cuz most people do drink. As long as we are civil and not forcing our beliefs on people, we can get along fine.
i dont like how the narrator said lucas- whos transgender, and kiran. i think it shouldve either being lucas and kiran or lucas- whos transgender, and kiran- whos muslim
@@suns2027 there's nothing wrong with not knowing anything or being curious, as long as you don't force people to prefer what you do or harm others, whether it be verbally, physically or mentally
The transitioning girl is so intelligent and accepting of her naivity on the subject. She takes into consideration that not everyone will understand or be accepting, and continues to be patient and answer her questions! :)
Hey, you have the terminology slightly wrong, you would refer to a male to female person as a transgender girl and a female to male person as a transgender boy. Have a good day beautiful person!
@@zoomermcboomer4771 agreed 🤣🤣 I wonder how she must feel about others claiming there are 79 other genders? It must be horrible to see others taking the piss of something she actually has to deal with
Why is he transgender though? He wasn't born scientifically to become feminine, a male is attracted to a female. It is one's upbringing that defines you as a person later on in life.
@@sanaiantoinettedior1 she looked and sounded so much like a female hence why I thought she was a girl who wanted to be a boy. She looks very feminine. she’s adorable & deserves all happiness ❤️👑
yeah, its probably because shes going through early transitioning stages, that could be a lot of reasons, recent self/family acceptance is probably the most understandable. uno like if she has only just been allowed to grow her hair or go by a new name and stuff. im happy she is so open to talk about it. i hope she is doing well and has a good support network around her, she seems really sweet
I'm a transgender woman, and one of my friends is Yemeni. A few weeks after his cousin moved to our country, we hung out at a party and he & I had an hour long conversation tucked away in a corner. We talked about gender and sexuality and religion and spirituality and it was one of the best conversations I have ever had. I admired so deeply his desire to learn, and I hope I shared the same. I think if I was the trans girl's age I would have been on the defensive like she was, but so much respect to the muslim girl for her curiosity. Kids rock.
As a British born Muslim myself, I did not find anything offensive in how Kieran was asking questions . The trans student did not take any offense to K's questions. I give high marks to Kieran for not discriminating against the student. She handled it very diplomatically and did not go full on "I'm gonna read a few Quran verses to you" mode. Kieran treated her with respect, and I am certain this will grow into a very real and authentic friendship. Kudos also to the parents raising these great examples.
@@richarddawkins4607when I recently started seeing your negative comments in falasteen related videos I thought you're someone who recently got paid to write such comments on all falateen related videos, I didn't know you've been doing this job for years.
Yeah it might get a bit overwhelming when someone asks so many questions at once, but they both handled the interaction well. It's good that Kieran is curious and open to learning. Later in the episode some other student does ask something that's a bit personal and rude (if she has a penis) and the teacher steps in and says basically "it's fine to be curious but maybe that's a bit too much" and the student agrees.
"in Islam you aren't allowed to be gay"..... Correction...you cannot change what the heart feels...if you have feelings for same gender that's ok..however acting on those is not allowed in the same way having relations before marriage with the opposite sender is not allowed...
@1400baby X not allowed to act on it...if you are attracted to same gender then you are.you cannot be sinned for liking someone...don't act on it..that's what it says..
@@mano-1996 it is technically not allowing them to be gay if they cant act on it, is it just marriage or any relationship cause if its both then its technically not allowing u
@@mehakgoyal9420 ofcourse it isn't allowed...there will be some things that will not be allowed in the religion..what I'm saying is that atleast they will not be sinned for having these feelings...
At least she was asking questions She was just genuinely confused but most people in Muslim households don’t know about LGBTQ+ so that’s why she was asking
@@XULSS lol ur funny - LGBTQ isn’t a religion - it’s a *community* of people from different religions. So ur statement is completely wrong because they’re are some people from Islam who are part of the LGBT community so of course they’d know about their religion. Also people go to school I’m pretty sure they’ve learnt RE 😂
It's nice to see someone who has a completely different belief and isn't so educated on LGBTQ stuff to try and bond with someone who is, It kinda feels wholesome that's she's willing to know about her :)
Why is he transgender though? He wasn't born scientifically to become feminine, a male is attracted to a female. It is one's upbringing that defines you as a person later on in life.
@@hibasoomro4239 your trying to cause an argument but I’m coming more from two children talking about a serious topic was just stating they handled it well whether they are Islam, catholic, Christian or Jewish and so forth she her self said her religion doesn’t approve of a sex change
What do you mean? They are that way naturally, it's not by "social engineering". As society becomes more free and accepting then people are willing to come out about their sexualities.
@Discombobulated NPC no, as society promotes degeneracy, people become a product of their environment. That little boy would not be coming out as a "transgender bisexual" 10-20 years ago.
Omg there’s nothing wrong with her asking questions! I think it’s good she’s trying to educate herself instead of shutting her out. Yes it’s a lot but she’s giving her the time of day
I get that asking questions is good but she was asking a bit too much and some of them the answer was like really obvious, I’m saying this having grown up in a Muslim household. To me the transgender girl was clearly uncomfortable and the Muslim girl could very clearly tell that she was. She also really didn’t come across as super accepting of LGBTQ, you could tell she kinda viewed the transgender girl as a weirdo (well to me at least), it’s just her reactions and facial expressions that gave it away to me (like at 0:59). It just seemed like she was asking all these questions and will afterwards gossip about the transgender girl immediately afterwards imo.
Well as a Muslim, being trans is clearly prohibited because you are unhappy with the way Allah made you. She was just trying to understand him and why a kid would want such a drastic change and its normal for kids to ask questions.
For me what is important, is to learn to tolerate somebody (to a reasonable degree) even if he/she is a weirdo. Unless their weirdness is harmful towards other people, its their problem. You dont have to like them, you dont have to befriend them if you think that they are not a fit for you. Just try to be civil and let them go their way. The muslim girl really tried to be respectful thats all we should ask from her.
*Here's what Islam says and thinks about homosexuality/trans:* 1. You are not allowed to have sex outside of marriage=> straight or not, no kissing, no going out with someone..etc etc 2. The same sex marriage doesn't exist in Islam 3.We accept ourselves as God made us=> seeking change in one's identity is haram *Cc: So basically if you love someone from the same gender welp that can't be helped But you're not allowed to do more than that because you cannot get married* But whatever other people from outside your religion want to do it's their business and you have no say on that plus we must accept/tolerate and love everyone and try to be nice to all people.
@@shivaspatel2024 what proof have you got that gay people get tortured and killed in Muslims countries.in Zambia 🇿🇲 being gay it’s illegal but you don’t question why do you
@@shivaspatel2024 well that's what people there do it doesn't necessarily mean that's what Islam actually says killing and being violent against people in general (outside of the context of protecting oneself or defending someone) is prohibited
@@rowanhebblethwaite9262 whether I think it’s right or wrong and having a hate/ phobia are two different things you people should start learning that :) what part of tolerating don’t you get ? I don’t have to agree with that to be tolerant. End of it.
She might asked many question bcos in Islam, they aren't tought about lgbt, not bcoz she disrespected her. But in my country, they will judge someone who is lgbt. People in my country are so judgemental *sigh
Its up to people like you to help the LGBT in your country to be more accepted and safe! Not you specifically lol but allies. The UK is only this way because of decades and decades of civil disobedience and activism in the face of oppressive governments and cultural norms🙏
Young people can often talk more openly and inquisitively with each other. To be honest, it is nice to see these conversations. When I was at school no one came out the closet
She is asking allot of questions because she comes from a muslim background and not allot was taught to me about gay bisexual lebian and transgender when i was growing up. (This is from a muslim btw)
It’s really cool that we’re transitioning to a world where kids that would be ostracized and bullied are finally being allowed to be themselves. Tolerance will broaden our views and will in turn lead to more tolerance.
I'm non-binary and my best friend is a Muslim guy, and he's actually the absolute best of all my straight friends about being supportive and respecting my pronouns. He's a good egg.
I’m not a Muslim but as a Christian, in the Bible it says we shouldn’t be lgbtq+ but we should love everyone and accept them just as Christ did! Love the sinner hate the sin!
@@acgraphics1139 Leviticus 20:13 “ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.” Very harsh but it is the word of God
Okay so I must say some of her questions were dumb. Some of her questions were so obvious, she knew the answer but still had to ask. Just go with the flow, you don't need to ask obvious questions.
This is a little kid...why are little kids making decisions that will seriously affect the rest of their lives? Why are we playing with such a serious matter such as sexuality?
You can see the hesitation and uncertainty but I love that the girl was patient with Kiran and answered her questions. By the end you could see that she was beginning to sit more comfortably with the transgender concept that initially appeared quite foreign to her 💖🌍💖
@@tia2108 my goodness, I thought Lucas was identifying the other way around. F to M. Just re-watched the beginning part and you’re indeed right ☺️ What a gorgeous kid either way 💖💎💎💖 I feel like changing my original comment ... I probably should before too many people pick up on it and think I’m rude for not fixing it. Thank you 😊
The Transgender kid is so gorgeous.. someone needs to talk about fertility with him/her before any permanent changes are made. It is sad not to pass on such beautiful genetics... I mean Look at those BEAUTIFUL BLUE EYES O.O
It’s sad kids this young can make decisions about changing their gender.. as we know most kids are easily led and there’s many stories of kids who had regrets as they got older. You’re born one gender for a reason and the whole transgender movement is being pushed everywhere.
There's actually a lot of scientific research being done on the biology of gender and body dysphoria and it's a very complicated topic. I suggest you go read some peer reviewed papers and maybe engage with some transgender people instead of basing all your opinions on what seems to be a collection of stories you've heard on the internet and an incredibly lacking understanding of both science and the transgender movement. Stay ignorant if you want but do try not to take that out on some of the most oppressed people in society.
@@duck6100 oppression is when ur homes and countries are being destroyed, families raped and killed and people being starved to death. It’s not “feeling” like u were born the wrong gender so the nhs pay for ur sex change.. at this young age kids are still developing emotionally and physically, there’s no they can make a decision that big. I agree it’s a psychological problem so really some counciling would be beneficial. We’re born how we are and should be grateful for what most ppl take for granted such as sight, hearing, touch and a functioning brain and body. Just cos u feel like doing something doesn’t mean u always should..
@@georgewarner6437 no questions. I’m a washing machine and known since I was 5 year old. Just waiting for my transition surgery.. In all seriousness, I feel for u. It’s a mental battle but taking the step to change ur gender isn’t the answer. We all have our issues but there’s always a solution and that doesn’t mean u have to follow ur desires. Wish u all the best, but think long and hard if this is really what u want and are willing to change ur body / anatomy forever.
@@cefrinaldi8060 agreed. there's being curious and genuinely wanting to know more about trans/LGBT people, and then there's asking questions to be rude, it's two different things.
Yep , but my theory is how do you know know which direction you're until you've been in bed with him and in bed with her , and that's at a late age for boys it's 17 , if my son asked this I'd be straight up front says have you ever done it with him , ,behind , did you receive it and enjoy it or did he receive it from you , have you been in bed with her and hated it , Honestly the kid doesn't even have an Adams apple , he can't judge what his biologically attracted to not old enough, and anyone who did this in bed before puberty they'll scream out loud they hate this action, in bed , it's completely natural, kids say their parents doing it is gross because it's a normal human brain function of a undeveloped prepubescent child , The parents has to be brainwashing him , Charlene how'd you make sense of his situation??
@@veg4life. I disagree. I think it's possible to like the look of either men or women at an early age. I remember when I was little I liked the look of Simon Cowell in X Factor. I thought he was beautiful. Obviously these weren't sexual thoughts, but subtle hints that I liked the opposite sex. In this case, that boy, who is clearly gay, is identifying as the opposite sex, and he's been deluded into thinking he can be the opposite sex, when it's just virtually impossible! These issues of sexual orientation and gender identity are completely separate and unrelated.
This should be the way to tackle LGBTQ+ if your “ religion doesn’t allow it” try and understand and still be respectful rather than bringing anything up about religion or your opinion on it
I hope they are not using her deadname in this show and she's happy to identify as Lucas. I cringed so much at the microaggressions it's so sad how alot of LGBTQ+ folk don't get to really discover themselves until after highschool. I understand Kieran had questions from lack of exposure to the LGBTQ+ community but this is exactly why it should be included in schools PSHE/sex education. Homophobic politicians and governors are too busy worrying it will turn their kids gay (even though sexuality is not a choice and you can't be 'turned' either way), meanwhile girls like her are gaining trauma on the regular in a place they should feel safe and welcome.
I understand but as a Muslim ur not taught these kind of things and all ur parents tend to say it stay away from people like transgender. So yeah it comes of disrespectful but I’m sure it’s not her intention she is just curious as she probably has never met someone who is transgender.
She is curious. She is young. She wants to know. It is no different to when western people have no idea about Islam (except for what's on media) and they ask hundred questions to Muslims about he smallest stuff.
@@nickfurcillo thanx.. one of the people from my new school knows someone from my old school and found out i was trans and my dead name and put it into the snapchat group chat with my whole class..
she’s probably asking so many questions because we literally aren’t taught anything about it in Muslim households, some parents just don’t like to talk about it at home
Yeah,but I'm also muslim and you do learn abt it
@@dracomalfoy4811 yes but your parents don't tell y straight away...
@@dracomalfoy4811 very briefly tho
Because why should they speak about something that is a big sin in Islam
Do you approach males among the worlds(165).And leave what your Lord has created for you as mates? But you are a people transgressing."(166)
Do you indeed approach men with desire instead of women? Rather, you are a people behaving ignorantly
It depends so much mine ugh I refuse to talk about them my blood boils when I think of them I only really knew because of the Internet school didn't teach me jack nor did my Muslim family (i'ven't a clue if my brother is a Muslim or if like me he got severely turned off and became an atheist or something else)
It’s better that she’s asking loads of questions and trying to understand her than be ignorant
@@Maria-cb1bb she used to be male and stated that she’s a transgender woman which makes her a she
@George as you can see she was trying to learn lmaoo
@George you lgbtq take everything into offense wtf
I know right I thought they were both really mature about it
@@hafsahashi3032 do not generalise the lgbtq+ community, lmao. this isn't even about the video anymore. "you lgbtq+ people take everything into offense", I suppose we do, after being killed for centuries. you don't even know if that person was apart of the community, you just assumed because they had an issue with the way she acted. 😐
and regarding the way she acted, she was trying to educate herself further. though I can't see whether or not she was coming to terms with true respect. none of us truly know that. but people need to ask questions to educate themselves.
every great friendship starts with "so oi"
Ahahah golden
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@@arnburn6257 😐 3rd time this week
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huh?
“So.. Oi” 😭🤣
It’s Dora
@@Ok-tf8xu haha I was imagining "Hola soy Dora" 😂
@@NOBODY-yc7mj SAME ahahaha
Ha welcome to the uk almost every interaction with a child will start with that lol.
It’s better to ask questions than be offensive
The questions were pretty offensive tho ngl... did you see her face?? Shes like please just stoppoppoooppp😭😭 i get she was curious but she made her feel pretty uncomfortable
@@whatever1680 she didn’t if you watched the whole thing she said she was fine with it plus they became besties in the end
@@whatever1680 fr 😭
yeah like i love answering people’s questions but it’s not for everyone and no one owes anyone an answer, or would want to talk about it
@@whatever1680 well it’s not exactly normal so her questions and reactions were valid 🤣
Yall are saying she askin too many questions....HOW TF IS SHE SUPPOSED TO LEARN THEN? You think she will magically understand?
google exists lol some trans people aren’t always comfortable answering every question cis people have
Google*
@@micahmika3422 exactly
@@queenc2399 ok who care she has Google so she need to stop
@@micahmika3422 Google is gona explain to her generally it s not gona know what Lucas s experience was and maybe her parents monitor her computer and she s not allowed to look for stuff like this...she s trying to know more about the person in front of her that s how you make friends especially at 13
"So oi..."
Is literally the most British thing ever
Facts
What does "Oi" mean? In Portuguese "oi" is "hi".
@@pedrocarecato6108 oi is basically another way to say hey
Lmao yeah that's how everyone starts their sentences here
@@pedrocarecato6108 oi is just a way to get peoples attention really
This is so awkward but also this how teenagers are fr fr
Netflix take notes
Exactly. Noah Centipede isn't relatable at all - 🙄✋
@@iamnotokaywiththis6963 Hahaha I kinda relate to irl Noah Centineo ngl but yeah his characters don't act like teenagers and he doesn't look particularly young .
LMAOOOO
What does fr fr mean? I’m not native bisous from france ♥️✨
@@hereyougofirst "for real" haha
‘id be just dressed in my clothes to be honest’ idk if it was her intention but that response was golden :D
Poor child is confused
@@jamesowen3073 thankyou for sticking up for her
@@jamesowen3073 Luke is
@@jamesowen3073 Luke's evidently confused, repeating cliché statements, pauses when speaking. This is kind of normal, but shows total confusion
@@jamesowen3073 just listen to Luke and watch Luke's body language
These kids could teach us all alot - great to see diversity.
Im fine with transgender surgery for adults but not for kids. All this country's laws are based on consent and you u need to be 18 to consent and gender reassignment surgery one of those things that should be based on consent as it's such a big descion
there's diversity everywhere
@Nadia the law’s so stupid cause I was sure of my gender by the age of 5 and by 18 you’ll have almost finished puberty which totally defeats the point 😭
@@jimmysaville5621 yeah shes going to get it when shes after 18, thats when shes planning it anyway. Btw this is the ginger kid on the show
@Nadia it's not bs. The drugs often make you infertile along with other lifelong changes and people DO change their mind. The reason it is banned is because the NHS (national health service) was sued by a girl whom this happened to (Keira Bell). The NHS is funded by taxpayers and decided that it would not harm for people to wait until adulthood to make informed consent (which legally they cannot do in UK in matters pertaining to health until 18).
This is literally Ackley Bridge
HAHAHA
yeah its the real life ackley bridge haha
Ngl I clicked on this thinking it was a new season trailer or something😂
FR
In the actual full show they really didn’t get along, bc Kieran chose not to accept that she is transgender. They got partnered together for a day too and in the end became friends.
@George it’s called “the great british school swap” it’s on the channel 4 app
That's why I felt something odd in the video, Taman thanks for saying that in the comments section cuz I was lost when I saw people saying that she was asking alot of question and yea.
im muslim and i would be friends with trans ppl and respect them
@@toenailvolunteer3454 same
@@toenailvolunteer3454 same. Just because we can't be them doesn't mean we shouldn't respect them. They deserve the same rights as us!
It’s really nice to see someone so willing to learn about others and especially at that age- I think this should be encouraged everywhere as long as the questions stay respectful and the Person being questioned is comfortable
So nobody is talking about how pretty the transgender girl is
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Ikr she's so pretty
Yeah she looks like sophia lillis 🥺🥺💕💕💕
@@picklejuice8210 she said M to F so she's a girl
@@urielectric6305 No ITS a boy! Are you deluded
Why the hell are they doing a giant social experiment on these people
It’s not a social experiment it’s a school 😭
@@tallulahrose9368 i mean it kinda was a social experiment they mixed 2 different schools together so everyone could learn about their differences but yh😂
I wouldn't really call it an experiment. Anything the schools are doing would be based off of a plan, that plan would have been a fully informed decision. So they would have based thier actions on research that shows methods like this (encouraging diversity) aids in childrens development etc. So, not really and experiment. More so a form of inclusive action.
@@86sineadw an _exercise_
@@tallulahrose9368 school is education paired with a giant social experiment 😭
I'm Non-Binary and pansexual and one of my best friends is Muslim - great friendships are built on mutual respect
Well agreed 😊
I dnt know what that means
@@billzon4 what is it that you don't understand?
@@davidr-d9348 non binary
@@atn6033 ahh okay, so gender has typically been understood as a binary (meaning involving 2 things). On one side is 'man' and on the other is 'woman'. In reality, gender is a lot more fluid than that, and someone could be somewhere in the middle, or not even on the spectrum! Being Non-Binary then, means not being able to place your gender on the binary of 'man' and 'woman'. It's more of an umbrella term though, as there are many gender identities that fit within it. I'd recommend googling it if you want to know more! Alternatively there's a really interesting group on Facebook called 'Transgender Education and Discussion' that I recommend! I'm personally okay with answering these sorts of questions, but the emotional and mental labour of having to explain oneself over and over again can be tiring, so other Trans/Non-Binary people may not be as willing, hence why I recommended the FB group :) hope that helps!
omgg i forgot about this lmfaoo i remember everyone watching this
Lolol same
How do I watch it????
Ikr loll
@@eleanorcharlotte2680 i think its on all 4 or itv
@@eleanorcharlotte2680 it’s called “the great british school swap” it’s on channel 4
at least she's being open minded by asking and acknowledging that it's good to step out of her comfort zone and meet different types of people - this way, the younger generations won't be as ignorant and intolerant as much as our seniors.
Learning about people is better than assuming
I'd rather someone asked if I was in their situation.
It's better to ask than stare and wonder.
Exactly you can only get the best and most accurate information from them
I love that she asked so many questions! She was open to learn about Lucas and what she goes through despite her religion.
Despite her religion she is still loyal to her religion despite the encounter
@@ibnhassanq657 what does this even mean? Do you think she’s going to stop being loyal to her religion after meeting a trans person? Huh?
@@TrashyARTtry Obviously not people shouldn't compromise their believes in order to please others!
@@ibnhassanq657
Yes as much as one has the freedom to believe that homosexuality/transgenderism is right, we have the same freedom and right to believe it is wrong. Muslims believe drinking alcohol is a big sin but it doesn't mean we have to hate people who do so cuz most people do drink. As long as we are civil and not forcing our beliefs on people, we can get along fine.
the next jihadi john in making
i dont like how the narrator said lucas- whos transgender, and kiran. i think it shouldve either being lucas and kiran or lucas- whos transgender, and kiran- whos muslim
right like i was so confused
literally no one cares
I think it was to give context for what kiran was about to ask
Or "Lucas, who is transgender, and Kiran, who is cisgender.."
@@FahadAyaz that would have been the best option for sure!
The Muslim girl asking the transgender girl questions is hilarious. You can tell she’s so confused
Sure but she does wish to understand.
Yes because she was brought up knowing nothing about it, nothing wrong with being curious.
That's a he
@@studentone2383 no she’s not
@@studentone2383 that's a child why are u pressed
im a muslim and DUDE THE GIRL IS ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS
She’s a curious kid ennit
@@suns2027 such curiousity that kid has
@@suns2027 there's nothing wrong with not knowing anything or being curious, as long as you don't force people to prefer what you do or harm others, whether it be verbally, physically or mentally
@mjzudba erm I’m well aware of that ... but thanks for sharing I guess ??
@@suns2027 no problem mate
I remember this being on TV a few years ago. It was really good and made the kids and their families understand and accept each other better.
The transitioning girl is so intelligent and accepting of her naivity on the subject. She takes into consideration that not everyone will understand or be accepting, and continues to be patient and answer her questions! :)
Hey, you have the terminology slightly wrong, you would refer to a male to female person as a transgender girl and a female to male person as a transgender boy. Have a good day beautiful person!
@@DubiousMints ohhh! Thank you I got a bit confused!
@@isw1ft626 everyone's confused.
@@zoomermcboomer4771 agreed 🤣🤣 I wonder how she must feel about others claiming there are 79 other genders? It must be horrible to see others taking the piss of something she actually has to deal with
Why is he transgender though? He wasn't born scientifically to become feminine, a male is attracted to a female. It is one's upbringing that defines you as a person later on in life.
These kids are actually so funny
“I’ll just be dressed in my clothes to be honest”
No offence but I thought she was a girl that wanted to be a boy!🤦🏻♀️
she seems lovely there is nothing wrong with being different. You work ❤️
howcomes?
@@sanaiantoinettedior1 she looked and sounded so much like a female hence why I thought she was a girl who wanted to be a boy. She looks very feminine.
she’s adorable & deserves all happiness ❤️👑
@@XoGhostieXo ahhh I see!! yesss!!!
Same😭😭
yeah, its probably because shes going through early transitioning stages, that could be a lot of reasons, recent self/family acceptance is probably the most understandable. uno like if she has only just been allowed to grow her hair or go by a new name and stuff. im happy she is so
open to talk about it. i hope she is doing well and has a good support network around her, she seems really sweet
I'm a transgender woman, and one of my friends is Yemeni. A few weeks after his cousin moved to our country, we hung out at a party and he & I had an hour long conversation tucked away in a corner. We talked about gender and sexuality and religion and spirituality and it was one of the best conversations I have ever had. I admired so deeply his desire to learn, and I hope I shared the same. I think if I was the trans girl's age I would have been on the defensive like she was, but so much respect to the muslim girl for her curiosity. Kids rock.
As a British born Muslim myself, I did not find anything offensive in how Kieran was asking questions . The trans student did not take any offense to K's questions. I give high marks to Kieran for not discriminating against the student. She handled it very diplomatically and did not go full on "I'm gonna read a few Quran verses to you" mode. Kieran treated her with respect, and I am certain this will grow into a very real and authentic friendship. Kudos also to the parents raising these great examples.
She asked positive questions and was very aware of her religion so I think she did well
the next jihadi john in making
@@richarddawkins4607when I recently started seeing your negative comments in falasteen related videos I thought you're someone who recently got paid to write such comments on all falateen related videos, I didn't know you've been doing this job for years.
Yeah it might get a bit overwhelming when someone asks so many questions at once, but they both handled the interaction well. It's good that Kieran is curious and open to learning. Later in the episode some other student does ask something that's a bit personal and rude (if she has a penis) and the teacher steps in and says basically "it's fine to be curious but maybe that's a bit too much" and the student agrees.
I’d rather someone ask questions then her being rude
Yeah, at least she’s showing interest whether she agrees or disagrees. More to day than what some ppl do unfortunately 😔
"in Islam you aren't allowed to be gay"..... Correction...you cannot change what the heart feels...if you have feelings for same gender that's ok..however acting on those is not allowed in the same way having relations before marriage with the opposite sender is not allowed...
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@1400baby X not allowed to act on it...if you are attracted to same gender then you are.you cannot be sinned for liking someone...don't act on it..that's what it says..
@@mano-1996 it is technically not allowing them to be gay if they cant act on it, is it just marriage or any relationship cause if its both then its technically not allowing u
@@mehakgoyal9420 ofcourse it isn't allowed...there will be some things that will not be allowed in the religion..what I'm saying is that atleast they will not be sinned for having these feelings...
@@mano-1996 ye that's the good thing
She rah said " oyeee" 😂 wtf how rude I be like "hey umm..." and say whatever I have to say lol
it’s Birmingham what do u expect
@@fifi-l3b 😂😂yh i swear we all scream it here
@@masamune3027 same 😭
They’re kids. They don’t know any better.
Are u dumn? No one say hey umm. We say oii
At least she was asking questions
She was just genuinely confused but most people in Muslim households don’t know about LGBTQ+ so that’s why she was asking
yeah but.... we can then say LGBTQ+ people don’t know about Islam either.????
It’s natural lol why would they or even us learn more about them in our household. First comes our own thing then the diversity towards others.
@@XULSS lol ur funny - LGBTQ isn’t a religion - it’s a *community* of people from different religions. So ur statement is completely wrong because they’re are some people from Islam who are part of the LGBT community so of course they’d know about their religion. Also people go to school I’m pretty sure they’ve learnt RE 😂
@@XULSS exactly they dont lmao
@@XULSS if ur here just to argue gtfo of here there's gonna be Muslim keyboard warrior or homophobes gonna attack u
It's nice to see someone who has a completely different belief and isn't so educated on LGBTQ stuff to try and bond with someone who is, It kinda feels wholesome that's she's willing to know about her :)
Why is he transgender though? He wasn't born scientifically to become feminine, a male is attracted to a female. It is one's upbringing that defines you as a person later on in life.
Anyone else watching this bored in lockdown ?
She's pretty much transgender girl Lucas! I love her!
Huh
@@zoeellison5784 I'm baffled as you are mate 😭😭😂
@@zoeellison5784 Well....thats not what i thought i would see here💀
She is transgender I don’t get what ur sayin
💀
Being curious, asking questions, be comfortable to answer them... that’s the way!
I think they were both really mature about it she showed real interest and was open to learn despite what her religion told her
@@hibasoomro4239 your trying to cause an argument but I’m coming more from two children talking about a serious topic was just stating they handled it well whether they are Islam, catholic, Christian or Jewish and so forth she her self said her religion doesn’t approve of a sex change
“As a bisexual female” this is a very confused young man how he’s grown up and sorted his head out
That kid is literally the perfect example of the social engineering of our society these past 10 years. So so young. What a shame.
What do you mean? They are that way naturally, it's not by "social engineering". As society becomes more free and accepting then people are willing to come out about their sexualities.
@Discombobulated NPC no, as society promotes degeneracy, people become a product of their environment. That little boy would not be coming out as a "transgender bisexual" 10-20 years ago.
@@setokaiba. I feel sorry if you think that. Believe what you want
@@seonggihun5069 you too.
@@seonggihun5069 your name perfectly describes on who you are
Omg there’s nothing wrong with her asking questions! I think it’s good she’s trying to educate herself instead of shutting her out. Yes it’s a lot but she’s giving her the time of day
3 years on and all puberty blockers etc are now banned for under 18s in the whole of the uk sense is finally coming back
I get that asking questions is good but she was asking a bit too much and some of them the answer was like really obvious, I’m saying this having grown up in a Muslim household. To me the transgender girl was clearly uncomfortable and the Muslim girl could very clearly tell that she was. She also really didn’t come across as super accepting of LGBTQ, you could tell she kinda viewed the transgender girl as a weirdo (well to me at least), it’s just her reactions and facial expressions that gave it away to me (like at 0:59). It just seemed like she was asking all these questions and will afterwards gossip about the transgender girl immediately afterwards imo.
Yeah I totally agree
i remind you that this is also edited! =) so let's not judge fully in a short video
Well as a Muslim, being trans is clearly prohibited because you are unhappy with the way Allah made you. She was just trying to understand him and why a kid would want such a drastic change and its normal for kids to ask questions.
For me what is important, is to learn to tolerate somebody (to a reasonable degree) even if he/she is a weirdo. Unless their weirdness is harmful towards other people, its their problem. You dont have to like them, you dont have to befriend them if you think that they are not a fit for you. Just try to be civil and let them go their way. The muslim girl really tried to be respectful thats all we should ask from her.
*Here's what Islam says and thinks about homosexuality/trans:*
1. You are not allowed to have sex outside of marriage=> straight or not, no kissing, no going out with someone..etc etc
2. The same sex marriage doesn't exist in Islam
3.We accept ourselves as God made us=> seeking change in one's identity is haram
*Cc: So basically if you love someone from the same gender welp that can't be helped But you're not allowed to do more than that because you cannot get married*
But whatever other people from outside your religion want to do it's their business and you have no say on that plus we must accept/tolerate and love everyone and try to be nice to all people.
@@shivaspatel2024 what proof have you got that gay people get tortured and killed in Muslims countries.in Zambia 🇿🇲 being gay it’s illegal but you don’t question why do you
@@shivaspatel2024 well that's what people there do it doesn't necessarily mean that's what Islam actually says
killing and being violent against people in general (outside of the context of protecting oneself or defending someone) is prohibited
Just say you’re homophobic already🙄🙄
@@rowanhebblethwaite9262 whether I think it’s right or wrong and having a hate/ phobia are two different things you people should start learning that :) what part of tolerating don’t you get ? I don’t have to agree with that to be tolerant. End of it.
@@ehtNanatea They throw the word 'homophobic' around to try to shame you into accepting their beliefs and lifestyle.
I'd just be dressed in my clothes tbh..
😂 Fair enough
she’s so confused it’s so funny 😭
She looks like Angelina Jolie’s daughter
Omg ikr
Fr that’s what I was thinking
She might asked many question bcos in Islam, they aren't tought about lgbt, not bcoz she disrespected her.
But in my country, they will judge someone who is lgbt. People in my country are so judgemental *sigh
Its up to people like you to help the LGBT in your country to be more accepted and safe! Not you specifically lol but allies. The UK is only this way because of decades and decades of civil disobedience and activism in the face of oppressive governments and cultural norms🙏
Omg this is so sweet. Congrats to Lucas for coming out!! I wish her the best! 💕💕❤️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️
Young people can often talk more openly and inquisitively with each other. To be honest, it is nice to see these conversations. When I was at school no one came out the closet
she looks like jacob sartorious
Rude
Ha you are right she sorta does
@@ar7612 how
He*
@@aadonandcloud2574 because she doesn't look like him lol
“So oi” PAHAHA every good friend ship starts with that
Is it only me who watched this in RE in school?🤣
She is taking an effort to get to know and understand her new friend
1:09 that is the definition of a chav
Lucas went to my primary school and my secondary school before they moved school. We used to be friends in primary school
L
she's not even being disrespectful by asking questions she's just been brought up differently so obviously she's gonna ask questions
Exactly
It's nice that she wants to know more, thirst for knowledge is always a good thing
I go to that school and it's the most segregated school I've been to. There's like 2 white people in the whole school.
She is asking allot of questions because she comes from a muslim background and not allot was taught to me about gay bisexual lebian and transgender when i was growing up. (This is from a muslim btw)
She wasn't disrespecting him, don't think that was her intention
*her
@@aminahgriffith3797 her*
@@sheryne7657 *it
@@tahiro9589 *her
@@aminahgriffith3797 her*
It’s really cool that we’re transitioning to a world where kids that would be ostracized and bullied are finally being allowed to be themselves. Tolerance will broaden our views and will in turn lead to more tolerance.
I am a Muslim and have 3 amazing friends from LGBT+ community and asking questions is never wrong you just learn about each other more. 😄
You’re committing a huge sin brother/sister please repent and do not go back to that. Allah is the most forgiving
It pissed me off how they referred to her as Lucas
i don’t think she’s picked a name yet
him*
@@seymourbutts4592 her*
People like you get pissed over everything. Get a life, get a job, pay your taxes and mind your business.🤦♂️
They would most likely have referred to her by the name she wants to go by.
Im kinda jealous that this interaction was even able to happen, would never be possible in the school i went to
I'm non-binary and my best friend is a Muslim guy, and he's actually the absolute best of all my straight friends about being supportive and respecting my pronouns. He's a good egg.
This school is a mess
it’s from a show where they mix a white school and a mainly Indian school to try to break the divide between e two communities
Birmingham and Tamworth very racist and segregated.
That kid has no problem with presenting as a boy and using a male name. That doesn't look like a transgender to me. Kids these days are confused.
The classic "these days"
what
lucas is adorable. she's so precious
Bruh lucas is a boys name
I’m not a Muslim but as a Christian, in the Bible it says we shouldn’t be lgbtq+ but we should love everyone and accept them just as Christ did! Love the sinner hate the sin!
Exactly omg! That's what Islam also tells us, we don't hate the people one bit, we hate the sin x
The bible never ever mentioned gay people and gay isn’t a choice
@@tahina1473 if you hate the sin you hate us. We can’t control it. We didn’t choose it. Loving another is not a sin.
@@acgraphics1139 Leviticus 20:13
“ ‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”
Very harsh but it is the word of God
Okay so I must say some of her questions were dumb. Some of her questions were so obvious, she knew the answer but still had to ask. Just go with the flow, you don't need to ask obvious questions.
Calm down she was just curious
13 year old transgender and bisexual??? Oh my God
I thought it was Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt's daughter in the thumbnail.
She genuinely wants to understand I don't think she's being rude at all.
This is a little kid...why are little kids making decisions that will seriously affect the rest of their lives? Why are we playing with such a serious matter such as sexuality?
You can see the hesitation and uncertainty but I love that the girl was patient with Kiran and answered her questions. By the end you could see that she was beginning to sit more comfortably with the transgender concept that initially appeared quite foreign to her 💖🌍💖
shes a girl not a boy
@@tia2108 my goodness, I thought Lucas was identifying the other way around. F to M. Just re-watched the beginning part and you’re indeed right ☺️
What a gorgeous kid either way
💖💎💎💖
I feel like changing my original comment ... I probably should before too many people pick up on it and think I’m rude for not fixing it.
Thank you 😊
@Hans von Zettour pc is ‘all’
@Hans von Zettour social media is vicious 🐶
asking questions is good, but she could've been a bit more respectful about it, she sounded rlly rude asking them
I'm totally going to agree on your on that
Cuz if I was in Lucas's position I would feel threatened and interrogated
true but in the area they’re from it’s totally normal for teenagers to talk like that with each other
@@alainabanaina2 yeah I think that place is somewhere like in Bradford or Manchester cuz they got the northern accent
@@alainabanaina2 i'm from the exact same place lmao, i don't go round being rude asking questions about people's gender
The Transgender kid is so gorgeous.. someone needs to talk about fertility with him/her before any permanent changes are made. It is sad not to pass on such beautiful genetics... I mean Look at those BEAUTIFUL BLUE EYES O.O
thats seriously creepy
It’s sad kids this young can make decisions about changing their gender.. as we know most kids are easily led and there’s many stories of kids who had regrets as they got older. You’re born one gender for a reason and the whole transgender movement is being pushed everywhere.
There's actually a lot of scientific research being done on the biology of gender and body dysphoria and it's a very complicated topic. I suggest you go read some peer reviewed papers and maybe engage with some transgender people instead of basing all your opinions on what seems to be a collection of stories you've heard on the internet and an incredibly lacking understanding of both science and the transgender movement. Stay ignorant if you want but do try not to take that out on some of the most oppressed people in society.
@@duck6100 oppression is when ur homes and countries are being destroyed, families raped and killed and people being starved to death. It’s not “feeling” like u were born the wrong gender so the nhs pay for ur sex change.. at this young age kids are still developing emotionally and physically, there’s no they can make a decision that big. I agree it’s a psychological problem so really some counciling would be beneficial. We’re born how we are and should be grateful for what most ppl take for granted such as sight, hearing, touch and a functioning brain and body. Just cos u feel like doing something doesn’t mean u always should..
@@asifmohammad2978 Hi I’m trans and I have knows since I was 3 years old. Any questions??
@@georgewarner6437 no questions. I’m a washing machine and known since I was 5 year old. Just waiting for my transition surgery..
In all seriousness, I feel for u. It’s a mental battle but taking the step to change ur gender isn’t the answer. We all have our issues but there’s always a solution and that doesn’t mean u have to follow ur desires. Wish u all the best, but think long and hard if this is really what u want and are willing to change ur body / anatomy forever.
@@asifmohammad2978 why would I continue to life as something I’m feel uncomfortable as? Why do you believe it is better? I’m curious
“What if you regret it?”
“I definitely won’t”
The fact society punishes people for the possibility of changing their minds 🤦♂️
What
huh?
Most people would ignore transgenders and be so nasty seen it happened before good on the girl asking and getting to know her
It’s normal of religions clash, you have to respect both sides and not make an issue of it
I kinda felt bad for the boy cause she kepttt on asking questions
**She
she literally says she is a girl, buddy
She trying to understand. Its better than just blatant hate speech like the Karens do.
@@cefrinaldi8060 agreed. there's being curious and genuinely wanting to know more about trans/LGBT people, and then there's asking questions to be rude, it's two different things.
the ‘boy’ isnt a boy..
'Getting along' ? Tell the men who beat up on women at 'Let Women Speak' events.
Poor child. He's confused.
Yep , but my theory is how do you know know which direction you're until you've been in bed with him and in bed with her , and that's at a late age for boys it's 17 , if my son asked this I'd be straight up front says have you ever done it with him , ,behind , did you receive it and enjoy it or did he receive it from you , have you been in bed with her and hated it ,
Honestly the kid doesn't even have an Adams apple , he can't judge what his biologically attracted to not old enough, and anyone who did this in bed before puberty they'll scream out loud they hate this action, in bed , it's completely natural, kids say their parents doing it is gross because it's a normal human brain function of a undeveloped prepubescent child ,
The parents has to be brainwashing him ,
Charlene how'd you make sense of his situation??
@@veg4life. I disagree. I think it's possible to like the look of either men or women at an early age. I remember when I was little I liked the look of Simon Cowell in X Factor. I thought he was beautiful. Obviously these weren't sexual thoughts, but subtle hints that I liked the opposite sex.
In this case, that boy, who is clearly gay, is identifying as the opposite sex, and he's been deluded into thinking he can be the opposite sex, when it's just virtually impossible! These issues of sexual orientation and gender identity are completely separate and unrelated.
@@charlene2459 he is the opposite sex mentally
@@seonggihun5069 literally impossible
He’s not
if it was a private school, it wouldn’t be on the the media news
This should be the way to tackle LGBTQ+ if your “ religion doesn’t allow it” try and understand and still be respectful rather than bringing anything up about religion or your opinion on it
Oh my god i read this as "there should be a way to tackle the LGBTQ+" i honestly thought you wanted to push em on the floor
Asking questions is important
Kids
Life messed up
Male and female that’s it
Not always
Does anybody else have a problem when going to check for other shows on this channel that it says the ‘channel is unavailable’?
Yes!
@@boredshrimp9425 damn
“So oi”😂
I hope they are not using her deadname in this show and she's happy to identify as Lucas. I cringed so much at the microaggressions it's so sad how alot of LGBTQ+ folk don't get to really discover themselves until after highschool. I understand Kieran had questions from lack of exposure to the LGBTQ+ community but this is exactly why it should be included in schools PSHE/sex education. Homophobic politicians and governors are too busy worrying it will turn their kids gay (even though sexuality is not a choice and you can't be 'turned' either way), meanwhile girls like her are gaining trauma on the regular in a place they should feel safe and welcome.
That girl seems to ask a lot and makes being transgender his only personality which I think is quite rude/disrespectful.
I understand but as a Muslim ur not taught these kind of things and all ur parents tend to say it stay away from people like transgender. So yeah it comes of disrespectful but I’m sure it’s not her intention she is just curious as she probably has never met someone who is transgender.
*her (I think, they're trans male to female)
She is curious. She is young. She wants to know. It is no different to when western people have no idea about Islam (except for what's on media) and they ask hundred questions to Muslims about he smallest stuff.
@@ayabdulla I agree man
How else are you suppose to be aware ???? Questions , people have questions . The girl is curious, she is interested, she wants to learn,
im trans and just stsrted at a new school its so hard
that sucks :( you’ll get through it tho!
@@nickfurcillo thanx.. one of the people from my new school knows someone from my old school and found out i was trans and my dead name and put it into the snapchat group chat with my whole class..
Oof bless you, may things be easy for you ameen
@@casperclougher342 wait does your new school not tolerate or support the LGBTQ+ community
@@yahdonteatmekid5772 not really but better then my old school
As a muslim i respect their community and do not hate them because we all human at the end and hate don't come from religion it came from humans.
Children aren't even children any more. My god what happened to the world.
Wdym
2:05 in Islam if your gay then you can’t do anything bout it but to ignore Nd not act up on those feelings. I believe Christianity is quite similar.
It should be. They're part of Abrahamic religion after all.