Wow! That young man, Zander. He knows where he’s going. As a teacher, I’m going to use his line, “You’re only in this place (high school) for 5 years. You’re out in the world for the next 60 years.”
I felt the same way when he said that. It is incredible to realize that at that age. His parents instilled life into him at an early age. We wait too long to grow up.
Using that line on kids isn't going to do anything. I went to public school and I wasn't really present or committed at all. I got out of school, worked basic jobs for a bit and when I matured I pushed myself to uni and got a physics degree. I now work a very nice job. I could go back in time and tell everything I know to my younger self and it wouldn't have any effect. It doesn't matter how choice your words are or how profound your advice is; if a kid doesn't have the mentality, motivation or interest then they're just not going to care about you using a line on them. It would take a significant amount of effort for a teacher to coax a disinterested child into engagement with a particular subject. It takes a lot of one-on-one time to identify, enable and nurture an interest in something and public schools just aren't equipped to do that; too many children and not enough teachers unfortunately. Private school kids go into the whole thing with an entirely different attitude from the very start. They're already used to the idea that they're going to go in and study and they know that a certain level of performance is expected of them. They're usually more emotionally secure and confident and they're not trapped in the social circles that public school kids are, where it's not cool to do well at school. It's not even really always a case of insecurity or struggle that stops public school kids from doing well; you go to school and mess around with your mates and you don't really think about it. There's just such a powerful social force that naturally causes you to mess about and not pay attention and if you're not constantly disciplined you just don't take anything in. Sorry to waffle on I just think you should try to remember what it was like to be a student and how little your 'line' would affect you back then. Maybe you're the type of student that would be affected by a line like that but in my experience, that line would have no effect on the kids that actually need that advice. You can't just say lines and think it's going to flick a switch; the mentality that prevents kids from excelling is a dense fog.
You can tell how secure these private school kids are just from the way they carry themselves, and how insecure, almost scared the public school kids are, with very few exceptions. That's not something a teacher can provide for a child, that's provided at home even before the kids start school.
A few minutes in and that was hugely clear. They look like a different breed of people. It certainly comes from the parents, but it could come from the teachers as well. Class has a lot to do with it. You can be sure that the fee-paying school, the teachers and the students, makes the kids feel good about themselves. Bullying can have a major impact on children and that can come from teachers as well as students.
@timothyspool1399 Bullying, especially mental abuse is just as bad if not worst at private schools. I went to both and in a lot ways wealthy children are more vicious than others. Imo confidence comes from the home. Kids that have confidence instilled by their parents tend to be very confident and outgoing.
The level of maturity and the self-esteem are the biggest differences to me. The private school kids have no doubt they‘ll succeed in life, and they are already doers. The state school kids seem more insecure, also financially. They have doubts, and doubts are like a slow poison.
This is why I think it’s disgraceful the headmistress has such an obvious chip on her shoulder that she has no trouble expressing. She thinks this benefits her students but it actually harms them.
@ Not necessarily. It takes some determination and skill, too. I went to a very prestigious school, and some of the richest kids have reached the lowest professional level. Of course, they are not poor, family fortune be thanks. But they never went places, professionally.
@@Urufu-santhat's exactly what the OP is saying. They don't have to go anywhere professional. They know they'll be alright regardless because of their family's wealth.
Having worked in both State and Private schools I have to say that I agree with the headteacher of the State school,it is not what you know but who you know.Private schooling doesn’t always mean better education.
I'm not a teacher, but I think it's also the attention you get from the teacher. Private probably means more attention from teachers than state because there's less students and there's more motivation for the teachers as they get paid more. Of course not every teacher will be motivated more by money but surely most of them are.
Well you have better quality education in that the one one time with the teacher is higher, the pace can also be quicker due to a small amount of kids not knowing the language. Also the kids in private schools come from families with less problems, overall higher discipline and different values which ultimately sets you up for more success in life. And obviously knowing the right people is the most important thing for a successful career anywhere you live. The full package is very much different and benefits students.
Pretty astonishing outcomes from this short experiment. The young Syrian girl is definitely going somewhere. I hope her parents can continue to support her goal of getting to university which I’m pretty sure she’s going somewhere.
When Xander pulled the lace out of Brett’s mouth, and simply stated “doesn’t suit you.” It took a moment for Brett to compute how to handle it. Brett isn’t used to being ‘corrected.’
My brother went to state school, and now he has his own secretary and is almost the head of his organization. The snobbery I've encountered in his now social circles is laughable when you tell them where he comes from they hate it classism is a virus.
its just how you perceive it. snobbery is often misconstrued with just feeling proud of where you're from and where you've studied. of course there are outliers, there are some amazing kids who've gone on to accomplish amazing things with their lives from a background of a state school, but you can break it down to mere fundamentals as just being pattern recognition.
@@nylepentik2696 I am not anti posh I am anti snob there is a difference snobbery is looking down on others and they usually come from that background.
@@RandomnessTube. i just think its a matter of perspective. snobbery is often used as the label as the individual fails to recognise what actually is occurring. but regardless, not willing to have a debate on youtube comments lol. have a good day sir.
Generally reverse snobbery is more rampart. As a small child I soon learned to stop telling people what school I went to due the vitriol, hatred and judgement I received. Hearing as a child, “I hate private school kids” is something that stays with you.
My husband works in private and state schools and said the kids are no brighter or more well behaved in the private schools, if anything they behave worse for the most part and the parents are horrendous to deal with. The state schools he see’s lots of very bright and talented kids that strive for success and want better. The state schools are just too full, they need to have more schools with fewer students to give the kids a better chance of a good education rather than being lost in the crowds.
@@renegade-master29What factories still operate in the UK? That industry has passed we rely on other countries for that sort of production & industry, education needs to be improved massively especially the quality of education because so many young people are now entering the tertiary & quarternary sector they want all the top paying jobs and to do that they need to get accepted into the best universities and that's only possible if education is massively improved there's still schools that fail kids massively because they don't do enough and majority of that is in the North of England especially
That’s grammar schools are for, intelligent students who want a high quality education. You can be anything if you try, you dont need to rely on just your teachers. Private school’s aren’t all that either - student’s still (if anything, more) do their own independant learning because when you are in uni, teacher’s will not spoon feed you.
Thank you. That's why I rarely get three or four minutes into a documentary before having to hit the pause/stop button. American docos used to be the worst but the background music cancer has spread to other English-speaking nations. I enjoy listening to quality music. I enjoy listening to an expert on any topic. But I can't do both at the same time. Nice to know I'm not alone in this background-music-plagued world.
@@majorlaff8682 Kinda like how Gordan Ramsey's show on restaurants that are failing was initially a quiet show without over the top sound design. Once it went into America, everything ramped up to it being life or death thriller music for half the show.
He was contemplating whether to fight or whether to accept being bullied. Most of the time, these kids don't think that deep, it's really an in the moment way of living.
Except the kid who said he doesn't do homework because he shares a room and also because it makes it easier for the teachers who don't have to mark it. That's just an excuse. Fair enough if you don't want to do homework but don't make pathetic excuses like that.
My brother and I went to comprehensive schools. The teaching was good and you could go on to do whatever you wanted to if you applied yourself. I went to Cambridge and got a first and am now a scientist. My brother went on to study economics and work in Goldman Sachs and is now in upper management there. I saw that the biggest influence was the home background. If you had a supportive home background where you were expected to work hard and do your best then you were much more likely to succeed. I saw how hard it was for pupils that came from an unsupportive background with parents who did not appreciate their education or encourage them.
I'm from the USA and have no idea why this interests me so much. I guess class divide is universal enough. When looking at those private schools, I couldn't help thinking "What in the Harry Potter?"
@@kansasgoldilocks But the class divide via schooling isn’t as integrated in the US. People are less likely to care if you went on a fancy posh boarding high school. Going to a fancy posh university or Ivy League vs a public university is where the idea of classism is a bit more obvious in the US but most students and adults generally don’t care except the Ivy graduates and hiring managers. The snobbery still exist but in the US we respect self made people more hence why we have American multimillionaires and billionaires humble bragging their origins to success (but in reality most already came from the upper middle to elite class families to begin with).
@@bmona7550this is an interesting take. So I’m from the UK lived here all my life. I’d say it’s no different based on your description. In real life, on the ground, as it were, no one gives a shit haha. The snobbery exists as you say, but if you’re not one of the elite why would you be around it ever 😂
@@kansasgoldilocks that’s true, but it also really depends on where you live because of taxes going into how funding your school. in the UK private is private and public is public, in the US where you live plays a big role into how well funded your private or public high school is. I think New York is the great example of the private VS public conversation in terms of education. But then again when we talk about funding, you gotta look at schools in one part of town versus schools in another part of town and while both schools are public, one school is 10 times better than the other simply because of it location and I think the best example of that is Carmel high school.
Wow! That young man, Zander. He knows where he’s going. As a teacher, I’m going to use his line, “You’re only in this place (high school) for 5 years. You’re out in the world for the next 60 years.”
The focus is on the different types of schools but the focus begins much earlier than that at home (different types of home environment). Children who have well educated parents are prone to be more motivated and focussed. They are less likely to drop out as well and they will be pushed and supported by their parents. They also have a hidden pressure to perform and be at least as well educated as their parents if not more. So school is just one piece in the puzzle. I studied in an expensive private school and became a professional and my elder brother studied in a state school and went on to specialise in three different academic subjects and he taught in two different colleges, was awarded states best teacher award and finished as a professor! So go figure how much school plays a part and how much your own motivation !
This argument feels outdated and simplistic, especially considering the increasingly complex expectations placed on parents today. In the U.S., there's a significant disparity in access to quality education for all children, coupled with insufficient social support for families as a whole. This lack of equity must be addressed to truly support parents and their children.
The headmaster of the private school hit the nail on the head. It's what is going on at home that is causing the issues. So, in a sense, it IS as much who you know as what you know.......but the "who" is the family. Which has been a target of disruption for 60 years. And a strong family will set a child up for life, regardless of its income.
I attended both private and state schools, and I'm grateful for the experience. It gave me a strong foundation, the ability to connect with people easily, and a non-judgmental outlook on life. While the private school offered a better education, this was mainly due to smaller class sizes, more time spent at school, and better facilities, not the quality of the teachers.
I went to 2 schools that had to be closed down and restarted as trusts. I then went to another state school, which was 'good'. The surrounding area has a massive effect on the school. My first 2 schools were in very rough areas, whereas the last school was in a slightly better area, but we would have called it posh. The difference was incredible, but at the end of the day, it does depend on the child.
I’m from the US and seeing how well behaved the kids are is amazing. I’ve been to public schools most of my life and the one here I can see is one of the best ones despite being in a “poor” area. It truly just depends, some public schools are better than the others and the same goes with private schools. I have cousins who went from public to private school who hated the experience in their private schools (their parents forced them to be there, they actually lacked confidence in that time because of it and had to deal with the rich students bullying the poor ones). Chances are it highly depends on the kid, their environment and whether it’s a great fit for them.
This is crazy. I’m from the Netherlands and the state school looks like a private school to me. Insane, my school building looks like a worn down brick
To be fair, it was originally a grammar school. They say, in this video, we only have two types of school in this country. It's not completely true. Grammars are highly academically selective schools. State-run (let's not get into the Academy system here), but often like mini private schools.
Definitely felt like the kind of kid on the brink of either growing up or messing up. Xander seemed to push him towards the growing up path by just expecting more out of him
I feel as though private school students get a better quality of education and go to school for longer hours, therefore don’t have to work at home and are still better educated even being able to get time to “mess around.”
as someone at a private school you definitely still need to work at home. At my school we get a LOT of homework even though I go to school from 8-6:15 every day
@@tifffernandes8632at my school they strongly encourage all years to join in with extracurricular, even year 11 and 13s in exam year, so we have to find sneaky ways to get out of doing them to have study periods instead😂
I went to both private and state schools (private on scholarship) and I found the quality of the education far superior at the state school (hence why I left the private). The extra-curricular activities and facilities at the private school were obviously much better (and the food was great) but I honestly much preferred my time at state school overall. Obviously this depends massively on which school you go to but I don’t think it’s always true you get better education or an advantage by going to a private school.
I went to a terrible state school, and in year 10 we had a teacher come in to cover our GCSE English Literature Syllabus. He was private school educated, a qualified barrister, and I assume he wanted to tick off a box of teaching state school children. He took a class achieving average C/B grades to everyone in the class (circa 30) obtaining A/A*. That for me really highlighted how much the quality of a teacher can play a factor.
Having gone to a private school I do feel the teachers who go to work there do just want an easy life. I mean I had one teacher who admitted that the pay was less, yet after having a student eat his worksheet in front of him, he decided he couldn't cope with the behavioural issues you find more in state schools. They know the students are going to be compliant and act up less, they know they're already capable (was an entrance exam) so its less of a struggle raising those children up to receive As and A*s etc. I had teachers who called me stupid, when in reality they just didn't know how to teach the same thing in multiple ways, or its a case of "I've told you once, if you didn't get it the first time, deal with it". There's also an immense amount of pressure in private schools, we had GCSE style exams in the hall from year 7 onwards in the summer, your grades and scores could be seen by all the other students. There was an academic competitiveness that would either drive you far, or would grind you down to having horrendous self-esteem issues. I chose to go to a state college instead of the private sixth form, and would send my own children to a state school if given the choice between the two.
i go to a private school and its exactly as you said, most of the teachers are terrible at teaching and just sit there while we're forced to just do worksheets by ourselves....lazy much
I went to a fancy private international school in China and our teachers were also lazy and awful at teaching. They’d also face zero repercussions for treating students like shit. I vastly preferred the level of teaching of the state grammar school I went to in the UK for a year before I moved.
i’m 21 years old, went to a state primary and secondary school, a public college and i am now in my third year of university. i’d quite like a career in the education system myself. of course, i had my own issues while in school, i lacked a lot of confidence to achieve my full potential - i was good in some subjects such as English literature and language, sociology and Mandarin (eventually, wasn’t so good for years) but struggled with subjects such as mathematics and geography. i do believe that a person’s economic background has an impact on their education, i’ve grown up not having much, my mother could never really help me with my homework in secondary school, couldn’t afford a tutor and i didn’t do any extracurricular activities which of course, put me at a disadvantage in comparison to students who have cultural capital however, i know many people who are also from low income backgrounds and are some of the most intelligent people i’ve ever seen and have gone on to study at excellent universities. what most children need is faith. faith in themselves and faith from their teachers. in my school there were some teachers who did their absolute best to unlock a students full potential whereas others simply would brand you as “dumb” and “lazy” if you didn’t pick something up straight away. the quality of education in England as a whole has definitely declined over the years too. i hope to be an educator one day and help young people turn into respectable and intelligent adults. there is a serious need for change in education. in regards to this video, i enjoyed it thoroughly, i do feel the state school headmaster was a bit stuck inside of her own head, she was very close minded. the private school headmaster however, seemed a bit more open minded. i personally believe that every student deserves the privilege of having top quality education - what background you are from is irrelevant.
I went to a government funded grammar school in England (no ridiculous fees) based on academic ability, and transfered to a secondary school in Australia, where age determined where you were in the school. That was a big difference. The private/secondary breakdown in Australia is partly determined by how much money you have, and partly by the model of schools which can afford to pay more for teachers having the chance to choose the better ones - though it doesn't work always. I judge a school not on its academic results, or the value of jobs former students get, but on how much of a difference the school has made to each individual, especially for those with learning difficulties.
Xander I think genuinely cares about Brett. He’s wanting Brett to change his perceptions and people’s perceptions of him. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
he's a good mate! when he pulled the lace out of Brett’s mouth, and said “doesn’t suit you", he was trying to set him up him up for success. if they are able to keep in touch, Brett's life will change for the better! It's always who you know than what you know - having good people around you will always make you a better person
I don't know, it seemed like Brett was just stimming and sure there are better/ more hygienic ways to stim but maybe he hasn't had the space and guidance to help him see the difference. A private school kid coming in to just strip him of his stimming would only frustrate him more and make him feel like he's less than for being himself. I don't think Brett needs more "parental" advice. He just needs some compassion and an outlet for his energies
As someone who enjoyed school and hated people mesising about and ruing it for everyone, man.. i always did want to go to a private school, woulda suted me so much more than people being awfull for eachother "for fun".
I know private school has its own bullying problems but I wish I had too. I grew up dirt poor in a deprived area and school was honestly just a constant battle against both the students' disruptions and the teachers holding us back to keep us all at the same educational level, even if we were capable of far more.
I feel, they don't get the reality check of life. Learning lessons while fighting wars to fit in, defend your mental state and dodge weird situations throughout educational life
Would love to see a documentary about 1) The difference between public schools and private schools in Canada and 2) The difference between school structures of each kind in Canada and the UK. For example, if these kids were able to come over here.
Repeat from 2012. Where are they now? It would be interesting to see which education ended up being the best and what happened to them. (I left state school at age 15 (1957) with no qualifications and had a very successful career.)
And frankly that makes you the exception. First of all, most students who leave school without any qualifications (regardless of the quality of the school) face an immense challenge getting anything more than minimum wage jobs or those as unskilled laborers. Second that was nearly 70 years ago and these days just about every job seems to state that a university qualification is required (whether or not one realistically is required) and far more people are not only leaving secondary school with some qualifications but more are also going on to obtain some tertiary education (be that university or trades). It's not impossible to be successful without qualifications, but the expectation is an individual will struggle without them. As for which pupils in this were more successful, it doesn't take genius to see that posh students are miles ahead in terms of academics, have far more resources at their or their families' disposal, and have far more connections to the 'professional' class through their parents and thus have a much easier path to higher status/higher paying jobs.
@@dealbreakerc In my case after school I had some part time education and went to evening classes for many years, gained professional qualifications in electrical engineering and became fluent in a foreign language.
Good job! You worked hard, you made the right moves and you succeeded! Fantastic! The majority of people in this country can't take accountability for their own choices and constantly cry about how unfair life is.
It’s a shame that in this country there is such inequality when there doesn’t need to be. Private schools are just a way for the rich to gate keep their wealth, with some exceptions of poorer students so it looks ‘fair’.
Complete rubbish. private schools aren't for the rich. But for those parents who want to invest in their kid's future. As shown in this video it pays off. The private kids actually think about their future. Public schools are socialist propaganda centres, that ruin kids lives. They take a functioning kid and destroy them. They don't invest in teaching them philosophy so the kids have no understanding of virtue, no understanding of eudaimonia which life is all about. They have no ethics that guides humans. You communists are just upset that kids are out of your control and away from your propaganda. They aren't being taught to obey. They are free-thinking individuals. And free thinkers is what you communists hate.
42:19 Pretty funny that they're playing "Bully," lol. Wonder if that was something the producers set up for them, or if that was just a comical coincidence 😂
if we apply the same sentiment as work-life balance, as an adult, to these schools, i feel as though the practicality of that does not apply as effectively to the private school, as it does the state school. At the end of the day, school is (or should be in theory) a preparation for life when you become an adult, but your teenage years is when you personally form an identity. Removing your parents, you obviously get to experience things that can form your own morals, and i think the private school does not allow this to happen with the 7 day school week, because to be truly educated in this world after school is to step outside of the echo chamber and understand all walks of life through family or friends. The private school kids always have this systematic drone over their heads seven days a week (even if they think they are getting social time through sport on saturday and chapel on sunday), they are still mingling with their own peers of the same mindset, respectively. Unfortunately this will wield a skewed view on everyday life in the world as soon as they leave their private school education and they will not be able to handle the everyday challenges of reality with the people who are “every day working people” that have most likely went to a state school and do not have the same financial standard of living. To the detriment of the children in this private school, they have been curated to have the same mentality of their peers that were in their ‘bubble’ per se, which will hurt them in the future when they leave. That may not be career wise, but socially. Spending all of your time seven days a week with people who have been conditioned in the same way as you, from your school, on school time, will not prepare you to be able to deal with every single person under the sun, in YOUR everyday life when you leave. just my opinion tho x
I was privately educated until 16, not disregarding the fact I was very lucky but it was genuinely the worst years of my life. I didn’t follow the traditional route of sixth form and uni… I only did my degree at 24!
I was in the private school sector for 10 years. I was always told I was privileged. I’m 60 now and not so sure it mattered. State schools have produced many great results. Many private school kids didn’t thrive and just led normal lives with nothing special happening in their lives. It’s down to the kids and what they choose to achieve later in life.
Completely disagree, went to both its very very different, even the way teachers speak to you and handle things. Much more thriving in all areas not just academia
@@globalnomad450no they’re different, my cousin went to private school and we did different exams even though our schools were only 20 minutes apart, hers were easier
One of my friends is a teacher but never went to teachers college to get a designation. He was hired as a teacher at a private school. He wouldn't have if he applied to a public school. Not saying he's a terrible teacher by any means, but it shows how rigid the public system is compared to the private and it does pose some questions about quality of education between the two.
These public schools are seeing an increase of 100 pupils and they say that refugees are not impacting on the UK services. When you have pupils that don’t speak English, how can the teachers be expected to teach. So much resources are available coed up on people that are not even from the UK.
I come from Sydney Australia. We have different classes of state school. We have selective high schools where academic students go. Students are selected based on an exam in year 6. Then we have sporting and performing arts high schools which students must prove their proficiency in these subjects to get in. So, you take out all of these students that are succeeding in different areas, out of the public schools and what do you have left? Then you take out all the kids who have parents that save every penny because they value education, and of course the rich ones, that can't bring themselves to send their child to one of the, all excepting state schools, because they are in such a mess. Then try and attract staff to these schools that a full of behaviors and just poor kids that just want to learn. So yes, state school can be great but don't be poor or need some extra attention. No one wants to go to those, all excepting state schools. There are also different classes of private school as well, depending on how much you can pay, but I am trying not to write an essay.
i go to a private school in australia and i hate the “posh rich kid” stereotype, we seriously aren’t much bigger or better then the public school down the road 😂
In comparison private schools have half the students and double the budget. So every teacher has quadruble resources available to ensure private educated children get better education. It is still a socio-economic class thing, but not as clear as it once was. I want to commend on the bravery of the private school kids for being empathetic, curious and interested in the lives of average people. Understanding the people is an important trait if any of them grow up to be leaders.
This guy is among the OG food eating competitive people who are still raking in views, most have dimished significantly FP being the best example and not his fault entirely. Most people just watch mukbangs now.
I think being able to think critically and being creative are the most important things you can learn. Most problems I encounter in the real world are not in a text book or manual. I have worked with so called "educated" people and most do not know how to think. Their education was memorization. Also you need to come up with solutions under pressure. You cannot be afraid to just say your idea and try it. Even if it wrong. Some people I have worked with cannot think beyond their training and then they shutdown. I would say take the kids to a river and put them into teams and tell them find a way across.
Good Education is all about critical thinking. You’re taught to argue against your own position. Look at the education levels of people who believe in conspiracy theories. In real life, it’s always people who haven’t had a single minute of higher education that can’t critical determine nonsense.
It looks like the sun was out, my assumption was that the metal railing had simply gotten hot. When I was a child in the 1980s most of our playground equipment was made of metal and could get very hot out in the sun towards the summer time.
On the contrary, when my students are "compliant" I become a better teacher!! Having to put out fires all the time is exhausting and takes away your actual teaching time...and motivation. Now I'm at teaching a state school whose students are really fantastic and I have recovered my passion for teaching and preparing really cool classes. At the other schools I suffered anxiety, had to deal with discipline issues all the time and lost my faith in teaching. So, no, you don't become lazy because your students are compliant! And if you do, change your job!!!
Parents who actively invest time and energy into their children's development often seek schools that mirror or reinforce their values. If local state schools lack this alignment, private schools may feel like the safer option to ensure their efforts aren't undermined. In UK, most parents prefer to sit on sofa eating a kebab than look after their kids.
@@jamiethebookworm its not the job of the school to act as a parent. The country went downhill because of bad british parenting. No surprise then, that universities are sustaining themselves with well raised international students.
@@razamughal4582 LMAO someone called Razamughal is coping as immigrants always do. This country went downhill when immigrants come here and white people constantly score higher than all immigrants except maybe east asains in maths. And what you said about uni is just a total lie.
Id be interested to know how many children with disablities and learning challenges like dislexia and autism are in the private school. If inklusion isnt fostered those student cannot understand how te get on with people who need adaptations. Challenging behaviour isnt always because somebody is misbehaving, it might be adhd, intellectual disability etc. Now you have these students from private school taking the majority of seats in parliament etc... how will they make wise decisions? Inklusion should be a standard everywhere! Our children need to play on the same playgrounds, do sports together, work together, learn together... that is the only way there will be less divides among citizens in future.
So the school was originally built so that the working class could get a good education for free and now it's an expensive private boarding school? Lord Weymouth must be so pleased...
'Background' music way too loud. It's disruptive. I spent years as a producer for radio programmes and that level of music would have resulted in a rejection and request for a re-mix.
As a comprehensive secondary school teacher, I just sit here and laugh my ass off. Why won't you also swap 3 teachers to give them some flavour of 'normality' of a state school?
honestly i think the most important part about private schools is the connections you make. thats especially true for english speaking private schools, as there the children of the elite from multiple countries meet. ive been to a very good state school in germany, but have had classmates who were sent deliberatly to a year of private school in gb to make connections. also rich people from china or russia sent their kids to private boarding school in gb and america, at least i know a few. so that and their parents money and companies is why they get to be in the top jobs. its not necessarily that the education is better, even though ofcourse the private schools have to satisfy the demands of the paying parents.
I really hope the young man who desperately wanted to stay at the private school gets the opportunity, Failing that I hope he knuckles down at school works hard and becomes an officer. What a lot of potential he has. The Head Teacher of the private school is absolutely right. That lad has the potential to be a leader. Good Luck To Him in the future.
Probably the same problem in every school: the parents don't get a chance to vet the teachers to see they're competent - and even if they did, there's not much chance they can do anything about it - except to use private tutors whom they can interview. Suspect the qualifications of teachers in the state sector are more rigorously checked - but paperwork isn't what makes a good teacher. Many ex-military in the private sector.
My family has gone to private Catholic schools (French and Quebecois primarily) for probably about 800 years or so. I was one of the first to go back and forth between public and private. There are a lot of layers to it. There are a lot of assumptions, and illusions. Sometimes the private school kids are the 'losers', and I actually kind of feel bad for some of them, although they can also have a defensiveness, or even an aggression, about class distinctions, perhaps because of this insecurity, as well as the obvious experiential bias. Often public school kids are more chill and easy to get along with *at first*, however they can have their own types of egos and so on. Sometimes the public school friends will be very convinced of their superiority because they're popular at parties or whatever, even though they're total losers in every other sense, and the private school kids can have big egos because they excel in their studies and career, but never have many friends, aren't very funny, don't understand people who aren't like them, etc and are losers in other ways.
A big difference is the class size and the number of "problem children". If you had classes of 20, with no problematic children, you would have something that would be considered pretty high quality.
17 minutes in and the most biased & prejudiced comments are coming from the state school teacher which is interesting to me. Looking forward to seeing how that changes as the episode progresses, I’ve not seen this show before
Very interesting. I'd like to watch Part 2. Here in the US, they test you very early and, if you are smart enough, they basically put you on a totally separate track and life path - whether your family has money or not. I wonder if that same opportunity exists in the UK. From what I've read, our system is more like Germany.
Wow! That young man, Zander. He knows where he’s going. As a teacher, I’m going to use his line, “You’re only in this place (high school) for 5 years. You’re out in the world for the next 60 years.”
They probably picked him for this programme because he's more mature than the others, not because he goes to private
I felt the same way when he said that. It is incredible to realize that at that age. His parents instilled life into him at an early age. We wait too long to grow up.
Using that line on kids isn't going to do anything. I went to public school and I wasn't really present or committed at all. I got out of school, worked basic jobs for a bit and when I matured I pushed myself to uni and got a physics degree. I now work a very nice job. I could go back in time and tell everything I know to my younger self and it wouldn't have any effect. It doesn't matter how choice your words are or how profound your advice is; if a kid doesn't have the mentality, motivation or interest then they're just not going to care about you using a line on them.
It would take a significant amount of effort for a teacher to coax a disinterested child into engagement with a particular subject. It takes a lot of one-on-one time to identify, enable and nurture an interest in something and public schools just aren't equipped to do that; too many children and not enough teachers unfortunately.
Private school kids go into the whole thing with an entirely different attitude from the very start. They're already used to the idea that they're going to go in and study and they know that a certain level of performance is expected of them. They're usually more emotionally secure and confident and they're not trapped in the social circles that public school kids are, where it's not cool to do well at school. It's not even really always a case of insecurity or struggle that stops public school kids from doing well; you go to school and mess around with your mates and you don't really think about it. There's just such a powerful social force that naturally causes you to mess about and not pay attention and if you're not constantly disciplined you just don't take anything in.
Sorry to waffle on I just think you should try to remember what it was like to be a student and how little your 'line' would affect you back then. Maybe you're the type of student that would be affected by a line like that but in my experience, that line would have no effect on the kids that actually need that advice. You can't just say lines and think it's going to flick a switch; the mentality that prevents kids from excelling is a dense fog.
You can tell how secure these private school kids are just from the way they carry themselves, and how insecure, almost scared the public school kids are, with very few exceptions. That's not something a teacher can provide for a child, that's provided at home even before the kids start school.
This is the UK. I don't think you know what a public school kid is.
Confidence comes from the home. Confident children tend to come from very supportive families.
A few minutes in and that was hugely clear. They look like a different breed of people. It certainly comes from the parents, but it could come from the teachers as well. Class has a lot to do with it. You can be sure that the fee-paying school, the teachers and the students, makes the kids feel good about themselves.
Bullying can have a major impact on children and that can come from teachers as well as students.
It starts at home but not everyone is so lucky
And teachers do have a huge effect on students and their growth
@timothyspool1399 Bullying, especially mental abuse is just as bad if not worst at private schools. I went to both and in a lot ways wealthy children are more vicious than others. Imo confidence comes from the home. Kids that have confidence instilled by their parents tend to be very confident and outgoing.
The level of maturity and the self-esteem are the biggest differences to me. The private school kids have no doubt they‘ll succeed in life, and they are already doers. The state school kids seem more insecure, also financially. They have doubts, and doubts are like a slow poison.
This is why I think it’s disgraceful the headmistress has such an obvious chip on her shoulder that she has no trouble expressing. She thinks this benefits her students but it actually harms them.
Private school is rich parents of course they go somewhere
@ Not necessarily. It takes some determination and skill, too. I went to a very prestigious school, and some of the richest kids have reached the lowest professional level. Of course, they are not poor, family fortune be thanks. But they never went places, professionally.
@@Urufu-santhat's exactly what the OP is saying. They don't have to go anywhere professional. They know they'll be alright regardless because of their family's wealth.
@@Travel_plus_adventure I am the OP, this was a reply to @Asdameal…
Having worked in both State and Private schools I have to say that I agree with the headteacher of the State school,it is not what you know but who you know.Private schooling doesn’t always mean better education.
It’s more opportunities
I'm not a teacher, but I think it's also the attention you get from the teacher. Private probably means more attention from teachers than state because there's less students and there's more motivation for the teachers as they get paid more. Of course not every teacher will be motivated more by money but surely most of them are.
@@carkod Yes, there are less students.
For sure. The biggest benefit Ivy league schools have is that you'll make lifelong friendships with the smartest people in the world.
Well you have better quality education in that the one one time with the teacher is higher, the pace can also be quicker due to a small amount of kids not knowing the language. Also the kids in private schools come from families with less problems, overall higher discipline and different values which ultimately sets you up for more success in life. And obviously knowing the right people is the most important thing for a successful career anywhere you live. The full package is very much different and benefits students.
Pretty astonishing outcomes from this short experiment. The young Syrian girl is definitely going somewhere. I hope her parents can continue to support her goal of getting to university which I’m pretty sure she’s going somewhere.
She did it... she's a medical student now. Found her on Linkedin :)
@@DP-tf7qb omg that's amazing
@@DP-tf7qb at cambridge too just how she wished
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9:50 slovakia, syria
When Xander pulled the lace out of Brett’s mouth, and simply stated “doesn’t suit you.” It took a moment for Brett to compute how to handle it. Brett isn’t used to being ‘corrected.’
True
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Xander's just a knob let the kid do what he wants its not affecting Xander
The spelling is Xander, short for Alexander.
Just a nobhead thing to do though. Seen people like Zander at university and they're just dickheads
@@donk7001Xander is someone who has good standards. We need more of him. Too many careless plebs being raised in our country.
My brother went to state school, and now he has his own secretary and is almost the head of his organization. The snobbery I've encountered in his now social circles is laughable when you tell them where he comes from they hate it classism is a virus.
There is a reason they wear their school ties 30 years after leaving.
its just how you perceive it. snobbery is often misconstrued with just feeling proud of where you're from and where you've studied. of course there are outliers, there are some amazing kids who've gone on to accomplish amazing things with their lives from a background of a state school, but you can break it down to mere fundamentals as just being pattern recognition.
@@nylepentik2696 I am not anti posh I am anti snob there is a difference snobbery is looking down on others and they usually come from that background.
@@RandomnessTube. i just think its a matter of perspective. snobbery is often used as the label as the individual fails to recognise what actually is occurring. but regardless, not willing to have a debate on youtube comments lol. have a good day sir.
Generally reverse snobbery is more rampart. As a small child I soon learned to stop telling people what school I went to due the vitriol, hatred and judgement I received. Hearing as a child, “I hate private school kids” is something that stays with you.
My husband works in private and state schools and said the kids are no brighter or more well behaved in the private schools, if anything they behave worse for the most part and the parents are horrendous to deal with. The state schools he see’s lots of very bright and talented kids that strive for success and want better. The state schools are just too full, they need to have more schools with fewer students to give the kids a better chance of a good education rather than being lost in the crowds.
The thing is private school never teaches children that state school is “ lower class” or at least my
School never did.
There’s intelligent extremely bright children in every educational establishment
Every kid deserves a high quality education, prove me wrong.
We need some factory workers
@@renegade-master29can they not still have access to a good education?
@@renegade-master29What factories still operate in the UK? That industry has passed we rely on other countries for that sort of production & industry, education needs to be improved massively especially the quality of education because so many young people are now entering the tertiary & quarternary sector they want all the top paying jobs and to do that they need to get accepted into the best universities and that's only possible if education is massively improved there's still schools that fail kids massively because they don't do enough and majority of that is in the North of England especially
That’s grammar schools are for, intelligent students who want a high quality education. You can be anything if you try, you dont need to rely on just your teachers. Private school’s aren’t all that either - student’s still (if anything, more) do their own independant learning because when you are in uni, teacher’s will not spoon feed you.
@@rnosibZ57not the smartest if you think this country doesn’t rely on factories, clearly you didn’t get the privilege of private education 😂
omg mr thomas was my old teacher and helped me get an a in a level maths! glad to see he’s still doing well!
I think this series is about 7yrs old
Forgive me, it was made in 2015, so 9yrs :)
I cannot wait for the day society feels comfortable listening to a video without theatrical music in the background.
Thank you. That's why I rarely get three or four minutes into a documentary before having to hit the pause/stop button. American docos used to be the worst but the background music cancer has spread to other English-speaking nations. I enjoy listening to quality music. I enjoy listening to an expert on any topic. But I can't do both at the same time. Nice to know I'm not alone in this background-music-plagued world.
@@majorlaff8682 Kinda like how Gordan Ramsey's show on restaurants that are failing was initially a quiet show without over the top sound design. Once it went into America, everything ramped up to it being life or death thriller music for half the show.
14:39 this made me CACKLE 😂 he knows hes being silly, its almost like he appreciates someone wanting more from him than silliness
He was contemplating whether to fight or whether to accept being bullied.
Most of the time, these kids don't think that deep, it's really an in the moment way of living.
All of the kids refections in this are so open and deep, they're all brilliant!
Except the kid who said he doesn't do homework because he shares a room and also because it makes it easier for the teachers who don't have to mark it. That's just an excuse. Fair enough if you don't want to do homework but don't make pathetic excuses like that.
LMAO AT 16:51 THE FEMALE HISTORY TEACHER WAS LAUGHING 💀💀💀
My brother and I went to comprehensive schools. The teaching was good and you could go on to do whatever you wanted to if you applied yourself. I went to Cambridge and got a first and am now a scientist. My brother went on to study economics and work in Goldman Sachs and is now in upper management there. I saw that the biggest influence was the home background. If you had a supportive home background where you were expected to work hard and do your best then you were much more likely to succeed. I saw how hard it was for pupils that came from an unsupportive background with parents who did not appreciate their education or encourage them.
I'm from the USA and have no idea why this interests me so much. I guess class divide is universal enough. When looking at those private schools, I couldn't help thinking "What in the Harry Potter?"
Well, I would say that this is pretty similar to the U.S. We have the private high schools (prep schools) and private universities as well.
@@kansasgoldilocks But the class divide via schooling isn’t as integrated in the US. People are less likely to care if you went on a fancy posh boarding high school. Going to a fancy posh university or Ivy League vs a public university is where the idea of classism is a bit more obvious in the US but most students and adults generally don’t care except the Ivy graduates and hiring managers. The snobbery still exist but in the US we respect self made people more hence why we have American multimillionaires and billionaires humble bragging their origins to success (but in reality most already came from the upper middle to elite class families to begin with).
@@bmona7550this is an interesting take. So I’m from the UK lived here all my life. I’d say it’s no different based on your description. In real life, on the ground, as it were, no one gives a shit haha. The snobbery exists as you say, but if you’re not one of the elite why would you be around it ever 😂
@@kansasgoldilocks that’s true, but it also really depends on where you live because of taxes going into how funding your school. in the UK private is private and public is public, in the US where you live plays a big role into how well funded your private or public high school is. I think New York is the great example of the private VS public conversation in terms of education. But then again when we talk about funding, you gotta look at schools in one part of town versus schools in another part of town and while both schools are public, one school is 10 times better than the other simply because of it location and I think the best example of that is Carmel high school.
As a 31 year old American I can confirm my only thoughts were:
"WHAT IN THE HARRY POTTER"
It's fascinating seeing the level of maturity of the private school lad vs the state school.
Yeah ones a snob thats probably never seen struggle and the other is from a working class family and is probably used to going without.
Wow! That young man, Zander. He knows where he’s going. As a teacher, I’m going to use his line, “You’re only in this place (high school) for 5 years. You’re out in the world for the next 60 years.”
The focus is on the different types of schools but the focus begins much earlier than that at home (different types of home environment). Children who have well educated parents are prone to be more motivated and focussed. They are less likely to drop out as well and they will be pushed and supported by their parents. They also have a hidden pressure to perform and be at least as well educated as their parents if not more. So school is just one piece in the puzzle. I studied in an expensive private school and became a professional and my elder brother studied in a state school and went on to specialise in three different academic subjects and he taught in two different colleges, was awarded states best teacher award and finished as a professor! So go figure how much school plays a part and how much your own motivation !
I'm from America, and this is a universal point. It boils down to the parents.
This argument feels outdated and simplistic, especially considering the increasingly complex expectations placed on parents today. In the U.S., there's a significant disparity in access to quality education for all children, coupled with insufficient social support for families as a whole. This lack of equity must be addressed to truly support parents and their children.
The headmaster of the private school hit the nail on the head. It's what is going on at home that is causing the issues. So, in a sense, it IS as much who you know as what you know.......but the "who" is the family. Which has been a target of disruption for 60 years. And a strong family will set a child up for life, regardless of its income.
EXACTLY
I attended both private and state schools, and I'm grateful for the experience. It gave me a strong foundation, the ability to connect with people easily, and a non-judgmental outlook on life. While the private school offered a better education, this was mainly due to smaller class sizes, more time spent at school, and better facilities, not the quality of the teachers.
As a student who has attended a state school and a private school, not all public schools are as good as this one
Love this
I went to 2 schools that had to be closed down and restarted as trusts.
I then went to another state school, which was 'good'.
The surrounding area has a massive effect on the school.
My first 2 schools were in very rough areas, whereas the last school was in a slightly better area, but we would have called it posh.
The difference was incredible, but at the end of the day, it does depend on the child.
I’m from the US and seeing how well behaved the kids are is amazing. I’ve been to public schools most of my life and the one here I can see is one of the best ones despite being in a “poor” area. It truly just depends, some public schools are better than the others and the same goes with private schools. I have cousins who went from public to private school who hated the experience in their private schools (their parents forced them to be there, they actually lacked confidence in that time because of it and had to deal with the rich students bullying the poor ones). Chances are it highly depends on the kid, their environment and whether it’s a great fit for them.
This is crazy. I’m from the Netherlands and the state school looks like a private school to me. Insane, my school building looks like a worn down brick
Same 😭 I am from the UK but the state one literally looks like a nice private school, they should have chosen a real state school lol
To be fair, it was originally a grammar school. They say, in this video, we only have two types of school in this country. It's not completely true. Grammars are highly academically selective schools. State-run (let's not get into the Academy system here), but often like mini private schools.
Listen I went to private school and while I love state schools they have the most vast difference between social upbringing
Compared to private school - that’s leaving the whole debate about education between private new state school
architecture matters, sports matters
13:30 I feel bad for him, look at his room, hope he’s okay.
He's probably doing just fine, poverty doesn't really allow the spare change for a lavish bedroom
I had the same thought when I saw that shot. I hope the kid is doing well now and made it to uni
Brett was the dark horse. He will do well as he gains confidence.
Definitely felt like the kind of kid on the brink of either growing up or messing up. Xander seemed to push him towards the growing up path by just expecting more out of him
@@justalittledangerousHe actually went to the fancy school with a full scholarship
I feel as though private school students get a better quality of education and go to school for longer hours, therefore don’t have to work at home and are still better educated even being able to get time to “mess around.”
as someone at a private school you definitely still need to work at home. At my school we get a LOT of homework even though I go to school from 8-6:15 every day
Do you find it hard to balance extra curriculars and homework or are extra curriculars non-compulsory so you can spend a lot of time working?
They get longer school holidays at private school. Summer tends to be 8 weeks, Christmas is 3 etc
@@tifffernandes8632at my school they strongly encourage all years to join in with extracurricular, even year 11 and 13s in exam year, so we have to find sneaky ways to get out of doing them to have study periods instead😂
I went to both private and state schools (private on scholarship) and I found the quality of the education far superior at the state school (hence why I left the private). The extra-curricular activities and facilities at the private school were obviously much better (and the food was great) but I honestly much preferred my time at state school overall. Obviously this depends massively on which school you go to but I don’t think it’s always true you get better education or an advantage by going to a private school.
I went to a terrible state school, and in year 10 we had a teacher come in to cover our GCSE English Literature Syllabus. He was private school educated, a qualified barrister, and I assume he wanted to tick off a box of teaching state school children. He took a class achieving average C/B grades to everyone in the class (circa 30) obtaining A/A*. That for me really highlighted how much the quality of a teacher can play a factor.
Having gone to a private school I do feel the teachers who go to work there do just want an easy life. I mean I had one teacher who admitted that the pay was less, yet after having a student eat his worksheet in front of him, he decided he couldn't cope with the behavioural issues you find more in state schools. They know the students are going to be compliant and act up less, they know they're already capable (was an entrance exam) so its less of a struggle raising those children up to receive As and A*s etc. I had teachers who called me stupid, when in reality they just didn't know how to teach the same thing in multiple ways, or its a case of "I've told you once, if you didn't get it the first time, deal with it". There's also an immense amount of pressure in private schools, we had GCSE style exams in the hall from year 7 onwards in the summer, your grades and scores could be seen by all the other students. There was an academic competitiveness that would either drive you far, or would grind you down to having horrendous self-esteem issues.
I chose to go to a state college instead of the private sixth form, and would send my own children to a state school if given the choice between the two.
i go to a private school and its exactly as you said, most of the teachers are terrible at teaching and just sit there while we're forced to just do worksheets by ourselves....lazy much
I went to a fancy private international school in China and our teachers were also lazy and awful at teaching. They’d also face zero repercussions for treating students like shit. I vastly preferred the level of teaching of the state grammar school I went to in the UK for a year before I moved.
i’m 21 years old, went to a state primary and secondary school, a public college and i am now in my third year of university. i’d quite like a career in the education system myself. of course, i had my own issues while in school, i lacked a lot of confidence to achieve my full potential - i was good in some subjects such as English literature and language, sociology and Mandarin (eventually, wasn’t so good for years) but struggled with subjects such as mathematics and geography. i do believe that a person’s economic background has an impact on their education, i’ve grown up not having much, my mother could never really help me with my homework in secondary school, couldn’t afford a tutor and i didn’t do any extracurricular activities which of course, put me at a disadvantage in comparison to students who have cultural capital however, i know many people who are also from low income backgrounds and are some of the most intelligent people i’ve ever seen and have gone on to study at excellent universities. what most children need is faith. faith in themselves and faith from their teachers. in my school there were some teachers who did their absolute best to unlock a students full potential whereas others simply would brand you as “dumb” and “lazy” if you didn’t pick something up straight away. the quality of education in England as a whole has definitely declined over the years too. i hope to be an educator one day and help young people turn into respectable and intelligent adults. there is a serious need for change in education. in regards to this video, i enjoyed it thoroughly, i do feel the state school headmaster was a bit stuck inside of her own head, she was very close minded. the private school headmaster however, seemed a bit more open minded. i personally believe that every student deserves the privilege of having top quality education - what background you are from is irrelevant.
Luckily there are amazing teachers like Mr Thomas in most state schools. I had a teacher who was headhunted by a Hong Kong private school though. 😅
omg do you know which school?
teacher to student ratio is a big influence.
Not sure why I clicked on this, but it's interesting.
9 million pound budget for 400 children is absolutely wild
I went to a government funded grammar school in England (no ridiculous fees) based on academic ability, and transfered to a secondary school in Australia, where age determined where you were in the school. That was a big difference. The private/secondary breakdown in Australia is partly determined by how much money you have, and partly by the model of schools which can afford to pay more for teachers having the chance to choose the better ones - though it doesn't work always. I judge a school not on its academic results, or the value of jobs former students get, but on how much of a difference the school has made to each individual, especially for those with learning difficulties.
well this has been a surprisingly great watch!
Xander I think genuinely cares about Brett. He’s wanting Brett to change his perceptions and people’s perceptions of him. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
he's a good mate! when he pulled the lace out of Brett’s mouth, and said “doesn’t suit you", he was trying to set him up him up for success. if they are able to keep in touch, Brett's life will change for the better! It's always who you know than what you know - having good people around you will always make you a better person
I don't know, it seemed like Brett was just stimming and sure there are better/ more hygienic ways to stim but maybe he hasn't had the space and guidance to help him see the difference. A private school kid coming in to just strip him of his stimming would only frustrate him more and make him feel like he's less than for being himself. I don't think Brett needs more "parental" advice. He just needs some compassion and an outlet for his energies
As someone who enjoyed school and hated people mesising about and ruing it for everyone, man.. i always did want to go to a private school, woulda suted me so much more than people being awfull for eachother "for fun".
I know private school has its own bullying problems but I wish I had too. I grew up dirt poor in a deprived area and school was honestly just a constant battle against both the students' disruptions and the teachers holding us back to keep us all at the same educational level, even if we were capable of far more.
I feel, they don't get the reality check of life. Learning lessons while fighting wars to fit in, defend your mental state and dodge weird situations throughout educational life
Would love to see a documentary about 1) The difference between public schools and private schools in Canada and 2) The difference between school structures of each kind in Canada and the UK. For example, if these kids were able to come over here.
this is giving me flashbacks 🫠
Repeat from 2012. Where are they now? It would be interesting to see which education ended up being the best and what happened to them.
(I left state school at age 15 (1957) with no qualifications and had a very successful career.)
And frankly that makes you the exception. First of all, most students who leave school without any qualifications (regardless of the quality of the school) face an immense challenge getting anything more than minimum wage jobs or those as unskilled laborers. Second that was nearly 70 years ago and these days just about every job seems to state that a university qualification is required (whether or not one realistically is required) and far more people are not only leaving secondary school with some qualifications but more are also going on to obtain some tertiary education (be that university or trades). It's not impossible to be successful without qualifications, but the expectation is an individual will struggle without them.
As for which pupils in this were more successful, it doesn't take genius to see that posh students are miles ahead in terms of academics, have far more resources at their or their families' disposal, and have far more connections to the 'professional' class through their parents and thus have a much easier path to higher status/higher paying jobs.
@@dealbreakerc In my case after school I had some part time education and went to evening classes for many years, gained professional qualifications in electrical engineering and became fluent in a foreign language.
1957 was also a very different time
Good job! You worked hard, you made the right moves and you succeeded! Fantastic!
The majority of people in this country can't take accountability for their own choices and constantly cry about how unfair life is.
Yeah it’s a bit old now, wish they’d do another one of these documentaries in 2025 that’s totally up to date
It’s a shame that in this country there is such inequality when there doesn’t need to be. Private schools are just a way for the rich to gate keep their wealth, with some exceptions of poorer students so it looks ‘fair’.
Well the private school in the video is an extreme. Most private schools aren’t like that.
@@the_tapioca1 there are plenty of private schools like that
@@Emilovesu and there are plenty that aren't. Not all state schools are like Bemrose either
@@em-ls no school is the same as each other. The person said "most" private schools aren't like that. In the UK most are. Not every, but most.
Complete rubbish. private schools aren't for the rich. But for those parents who want to invest in their kid's future. As shown in this video it pays off. The private kids actually think about their future. Public schools are socialist propaganda centres, that ruin kids lives. They take a functioning kid and destroy them. They don't invest in teaching them philosophy so the kids have no understanding of virtue, no understanding of eudaimonia which life is all about. They have no ethics that guides humans. You communists are just upset that kids are out of your control and away from your propaganda. They aren't being taught to obey. They are free-thinking individuals. And free thinkers is what you communists hate.
42:19 Pretty funny that they're playing "Bully," lol. Wonder if that was something the producers set up for them, or if that was just a comical coincidence 😂
if we apply the same sentiment as work-life balance, as an adult, to these schools, i feel as though the practicality of that does not apply as effectively to the private school, as it does the state school. At the end of the day, school is (or should be in theory) a preparation for life when you become an adult, but your teenage years is when you personally form an identity. Removing your parents, you obviously get to experience things that can form your own morals, and i think the private school does not allow this to happen with the 7 day school week, because to be truly educated in this world after school is to step outside of the echo chamber and understand all walks of life through family or friends. The private school kids always have this systematic drone over their heads seven days a week (even if they think they are getting social time through sport on saturday and chapel on sunday), they are still mingling with their own peers of the same mindset, respectively. Unfortunately this will wield a skewed view on everyday life in the world as soon as they leave their private school education and they will not be able to handle the everyday challenges of reality with the people who are “every day working people” that have most likely went to a state school and do not have the same financial standard of living. To the detriment of the children in this private school, they have been curated to have the same mentality of their peers that were in their ‘bubble’ per se, which will hurt them in the future when they leave. That may not be career wise, but socially. Spending all of your time seven days a week with people who have been conditioned in the same way
as you, from your school, on school time, will not prepare you to be able to deal with every single person under the sun, in YOUR everyday life when you leave. just my opinion tho x
Great episode- when is the next one coming out?
It's already out, it's on our stories channel
this has been reuploaded consistently for at least the last 8 years. the next one is already out
I was privately educated until 16, not disregarding the fact I was very lucky but it was genuinely the worst years of my life. I didn’t follow the traditional route of sixth form and uni… I only did my degree at 24!
When the teacher's leading introduction to the schools is the buildings, I have already second-doubted its education
Both of the heads of their schools did that.
I was in the private school sector for 10 years. I was always told I was privileged. I’m 60 now and not so sure it mattered. State schools have produced many great results. Many private school kids didn’t thrive and just led normal lives with nothing special happening in their lives. It’s down to the kids and what they choose to achieve later in life.
Completely disagree, went to both its very very different, even the way teachers speak to you and handle things. Much more thriving in all areas not just academia
@ fair enough..
they have easier GCSE’s and A-levels.
@ aren’t they the same ?
@@globalnomad450no they’re different, my cousin went to private school and we did different exams even though our schools were only 20 minutes apart, hers were easier
One of my friends is a teacher but never went to teachers college to get a designation. He was hired as a teacher at a private school. He wouldn't have if he applied to a public school. Not saying he's a terrible teacher by any means, but it shows how rigid the public system is compared to the private and it does pose some questions about quality of education between the two.
5:36 "This is a good school" sign is hilarious.
These public schools are seeing an increase of 100 pupils and they say that refugees are not impacting on the UK services. When you have pupils that don’t speak English, how can the teachers be expected to teach. So much resources are available coed up on people that are not even from the UK.
There’s a real sadness behind Brett’s eyes…
1:32 Off topic but to the kid who put the poster of the a380 in their room, I LOVE YOU
I come from Sydney Australia. We have different classes of state school. We have selective high schools where academic students go. Students are selected based on an exam in year 6. Then we have sporting and performing arts high schools which students must prove their proficiency in these subjects to get in. So, you take out all of these students that are succeeding in different areas, out of the public schools and what do you have left? Then you take out all the kids who have parents that save every penny because they value education, and of course the rich ones, that can't bring themselves to send their child to one of the, all excepting state schools, because they are in such a mess. Then try and attract staff to these schools that a full of behaviors and just poor kids that just want to learn. So yes, state school can be great but don't be poor or need some extra attention. No one wants to go to those, all excepting state schools. There are also different classes of private school as well, depending on how much you can pay, but I am trying not to write an essay.
22:00 syrian lunch? australia has people from greece, ukraine , india, italy , thailand too right
i go to a private school in australia and i hate the “posh rich kid” stereotype, we seriously aren’t much bigger or better then the public school down the road 😂
Depends on the school to be fair. Some schools are very, very different.
@ i agree 100%
In comparison private schools have half the students and double the budget. So every teacher has quadruble resources available to ensure private educated children get better education. It is still a socio-economic class thing, but not as clear as it once was. I want to commend on the bravery of the private school kids for being empathetic, curious and interested in the lives of average people. Understanding the people is an important trait if any of them grow up to be leaders.
4 minutes in and I’m already rooting for Team State School
I am amazed, how mature thoight process, pupils from Private school are.
private school with those sort of desktops is criminal
This guy is among the OG food eating competitive people who are still raking in views, most have dimished significantly FP being the best example and not his fault entirely. Most people just watch mukbangs now.
The little argument in the office between the girls slapping and calling each other names…. I giggled 😭
I think being able to think critically and being creative are the most important things you can learn. Most problems I encounter in the real world are not in a text book or manual.
I have worked with so called "educated" people and most do not know how to think. Their education was memorization. Also you need to come up with solutions under pressure. You cannot be afraid to just say your idea and try it. Even if it wrong. Some people I have worked with cannot think beyond their training and then they shutdown.
I would say take the kids to a river and put them into teams and tell them find a way across.
Good Education is all about critical thinking. You’re taught to argue against your own position.
Look at the education levels of people who believe in conspiracy theories. In real life, it’s always people who haven’t had a single minute of higher education that can’t critical determine nonsense.
35:10 do you reckon he moved his hand like that thinking how dirty that pole probably is but then felt he had to put it back for the camera?
It looks like the sun was out, my assumption was that the metal railing had simply gotten hot. When I was a child in the 1980s most of our playground equipment was made of metal and could get very hot out in the sun towards the summer time.
On the contrary, when my students are "compliant" I become a better teacher!! Having to put out fires all the time is exhausting and takes away your actual teaching time...and motivation. Now I'm at teaching a state school whose students are really fantastic and I have recovered my passion for teaching and preparing really cool classes. At the other schools I suffered anxiety, had to deal with discipline issues all the time and lost my faith in teaching. So, no, you don't become lazy because your students are compliant! And if you do, change your job!!!
These children look sad… I was so happy at that time of my life…
Im 18, and i can honestly say that social media and technologies extent plays a huge part
Its not about education its about friend circle that they make and thats so powerful when they grow up
no freaking way 5:25 was my old maths teacher
At first I read "skate" instead of "state" and was expecting some kickflips and 900s
They should do this kind of social experiment in Colombia.
36:55 having a conversation about how important healthy food is while serving that shit. Says it all.
Parents who actively invest time and energy into their children's development often seek schools that mirror or reinforce their values. If local state schools lack this alignment, private schools may feel like the safer option to ensure their efforts aren't undermined. In UK, most parents prefer to sit on sofa eating a kebab than look after their kids.
Exactly right
and why should the kid be punished or miss out because of that? It's not their fault.
@@razamughal4582 but why should the kid pay for that? It's not their fault
@@jamiethebookworm its not the job of the school to act as a parent. The country went downhill because of bad british parenting. No surprise then, that universities are sustaining themselves with well raised international students.
@@razamughal4582 LMAO someone called Razamughal is coping as immigrants always do. This country went downhill when immigrants come here and white people constantly score higher than all immigrants except maybe east asains in maths. And what you said about uni is just a total lie.
Id be interested to know how many children with disablities and learning challenges like dislexia and autism are in the private school. If inklusion isnt fostered those student cannot understand how te get on with people who need adaptations. Challenging behaviour isnt always because somebody is misbehaving, it might be adhd, intellectual disability etc.
Now you have these students from private school taking the majority of seats in parliament etc... how will they make wise decisions?
Inklusion should be a standard everywhere! Our children need to play on the same playgrounds, do sports together, work together, learn together... that is the only way there will be less divides among citizens in future.
There are lots and lots of SEN children in private education because they don't get the support they need in the state sector. Hope this helps
You lost my vote when you misspelled inclusion not once, but twice.
日本だと完全に家庭任せになっている、内面(自尊心)のケアや人間関係の構築にも学校がリソースを割いているのが少し羨ましい。(理想通りに解決できているかはさておき、そこに気を回す土俵があるのがいいなと)
体制がそもそも分業化されているから、教師一人が授業・部活・事務・親の対応を一手に担う日本の公立学校だとそこまで手が回らないというのもあるんだろうけど。
ah yes wearing the wrong clothes is comparable to fighting
the young syrian kid she will be something mark my words
where is the part 2?
its not private and state, its rich and poor
Great doc mate
So the school was originally built so that the working class could get a good education for free and now it's an expensive private boarding school? Lord Weymouth must be so pleased...
'Background' music way too loud. It's disruptive. I spent years as a producer for radio programmes and that level of music would have resulted in a rejection and request for a re-mix.
27K to board isn't that bad. I am spending 18K for a non-boarding school, only lunch included.
Yeeah my parents looked at Queen Annes for me (I also got accepted) but that's next next level cost wise. We moved to Switzerland instead 😂
i swear iv watched this 3 times, why is it uploaded 12 days ago
coz they delete and reupload for more views. everything at this point is just a reupload
That state school looks like Harvard compared to my high school… sigh
5:49 can we point out that it says it’s on Ofsted “Good”, unlike the majority of schools in Leicestershire and Derbyshire?
What are the majority like?
"a city called Aleppo"
😂
As an American, I don't think I'd mind school uniforms, but I'd absolutely despise having to wear a tie to school. A nice sweater should be ample.
I think its quality of family and child. You dont see the behavior issues and lack of parent engagement in private school you see in public.
As a comprehensive secondary school teacher, I just sit here and laugh my ass off. Why won't you also swap 3 teachers to give them some flavour of 'normality' of a state school?
honestly i think the most important part about private schools is the connections you make. thats especially true for english speaking private schools, as there the children of the elite from multiple countries meet. ive been to a very good state school in germany, but have had classmates who were sent deliberatly to a year of private school in gb to make connections. also rich people from china or russia sent their kids to private boarding school in gb and america, at least i know a few. so that and their parents money and companies is why they get to be in the top jobs. its not necessarily that the education is better, even though ofcourse the private schools have to satisfy the demands of the paying parents.
I’m walking out with more understanding of the world around me! Fundamental teaching for young people.
I really hope the young man who desperately wanted to stay at the private school gets the opportunity, Failing that I hope he knuckles down at school works hard and becomes an officer. What a lot of potential he has. The Head Teacher of the private school is absolutely right. That lad has the potential to be a leader. Good Luck To Him in the future.
Probably the same problem in every school: the parents don't get a chance to vet the teachers to see they're competent - and even if they did, there's not much chance they can do anything about it - except to use private tutors whom they can interview.
Suspect the qualifications of teachers in the state sector are more rigorously checked - but paperwork isn't what makes a good teacher.
Many ex-military in the private sector.
My family has gone to private Catholic schools (French and Quebecois primarily) for probably about 800 years or so. I was one of the first to go back and forth between public and private. There are a lot of layers to it. There are a lot of assumptions, and illusions. Sometimes the private school kids are the 'losers', and I actually kind of feel bad for some of them, although they can also have a defensiveness, or even an aggression, about class distinctions, perhaps because of this insecurity, as well as the obvious experiential bias. Often public school kids are more chill and easy to get along with *at first*, however they can have their own types of egos and so on. Sometimes the public school friends will be very convinced of their superiority because they're popular at parties or whatever, even though they're total losers in every other sense, and the private school kids can have big egos because they excel in their studies and career, but never have many friends, aren't very funny, don't understand people who aren't like them, etc and are losers in other ways.
A big difference is the class size and the number of "problem children". If you had classes of 20, with no problematic children, you would have something that would be considered pretty high quality.
17 minutes in and the most biased & prejudiced comments are coming from the state school teacher which is interesting to me. Looking forward to seeing how that changes as the episode progresses, I’ve not seen this show before
I’ve been looking for this comment. She has a massive chip on her shoulder and clearly resents those more well off.
Very interesting. I'd like to watch Part 2. Here in the US, they test you very early and, if you are smart enough, they basically put you on a totally separate track and life path - whether your family has money or not. I wonder if that same opportunity exists in the UK. From what I've read, our system is more like Germany.
Where do you live in the U.S. where that is happening?
My Australian cousin Ja'mie did something similar to this
Going to private school is the best investment