I do love my golden boys. I play them all the time in 40k but just recently started getting into them in 30k, luckily all the infantry in my army are magnetised so adding extra options and arms to represent all the additional weapons available in 30k has been a fun pet project for a while now
Kitbash tip. If you got the Heresy box and have terminator combi bolters and power fists left over, you can use those bits on the plastic Custodes termies and make them Aquilons.
FYI for Haetaron Guard: even though they can take a presidium shield AND axe or spear, they won't be able to use those weapons if equipped with the shield. The shield rules say "models with a presidium shield do not gain an extra attack when charging and can not make attacks in the assault phase with weapons that have the 2-handed special rule". So unfortunately no spear/axe bros with shields.
My favorite army! I love how few models it takes to make a usable army, and how while they usually have only one option for any given niche, they pretty much always have *one* option for a given niche. You can always find a Custodes unit that does what you want; and you usually don't have to overanalyze which one you want. Plus it's just fun to be to Space Marines what Space Marines are to most other factions.
Thank you for making this video and making it easy to understand and concise. Really enjoyable to learn about this faction and miniatures. Keep up the good work.
The custodes are always such an interesting faction. In some ways I think they still represent the strangeness of the early Imperium as it is being born in 30k, and what remains of it in 40k. They have a distinctly this is recognisable as being produced by humans whilst also not looking human at all
There's something satisfying about fielding an entire army of champions. As if any single normal troop would have constituted a hero unit in any other army. And you're just saying, "what if I just threw a couple dozen of those guys at a problem?" It helps that, despite the kits being newer (and thus costlier to build than second hand plastics from the 90s), you'll end up buying, building, and painting far fewer of them.
Any time I am doing the washing up… for my morning movement (apologies), I come to this channel. I’ve watched it all twice now so… can you upload more frequently. Great content. One review I would appreciate, short stories with a book named “Deathwing”. I read it 10+ times growing up and would love to hear your view on it
Awwww man I love all the Forgeworld Custodes stuff. If they did them in plastic and sold them much cheaper, I would definitely break down and buy everything.
I'm sure with cavill involved with the 5v projects he's going to be dropping serious hints about new custodes plastic models, especially I he ends up playing valdor like he wants. New plastic custodes to tie in with a series could work well potentially
Waiting for other armies from the book for you to talk about but golden boys are awesome to see. Always loved their hats. Super genes were cool but kudos to the emperor for those hats.
fantastic video. I am now really buzzing for the Sisters of Silence section. Because it looks like those entries in the Liber Imperium appears to be expanded so it will be interesting if I need to convert/modify.
Whilst you can equip shield and spear, and shield and axe on haeteron guard, the praesdium shield doesn't allow you to use two handed close combat weapons which means you can't attack with them in close combat (this is a change from heresy 1.0 where there was no such restriction on the shield
Get some Grey Knight falchions and you are all good on Meridian Blades. And the falchions were not really taken in 9th edition 40K so there are probably a lot out there if you know someone that plays GK in your local area.
Sorry I haven't become a patreon yet @arbitorian - I'm a mere theatre carpenter with 4 mouths to feed so can't afford the extra outlay. Please know I would if I could before any other youtuber (I used to do music for WintersSEO, Moarhammer and DZTV, but after finishing with them, there is no one I like more. Well done to WhiteBat Audio for the intro as it is spectacular! Thank you, Ian
I just binged your Eisenhorn and Revanor book club videos and if you liked those then i STRONGLY recommend you read the Watchers of the Throne trilogy by Chris Wraight. ...dogged Inquisitors, deadly female assassins, mystery, intrigue...it has it all.
If ever there was a faction to use with the AL Mobius Configuration WL trait, it is this one. They can be counted to stick until you make your reserve roll and bring in your other forces.
Would it be possible to go back and do the HH 2.0 Knight Rules? I really want to enjoy HH2.0, however I play Knights as they are my favourite faction lore wise; and despite having many changes that make them feel more fun in certain aspects It doesn't seem to be clicking enjoyment wise. I am wondering if I am simply not comprehending something about how they are meant to be played that inhibits my enjoyment and am wondering if a rules rundown will help me.
New custodes player here (started with them 3 months ago as my 4th army in 40k and maybe will pick up 30k with them) I find it a missed chance that hey didn't give them land raiders (like in 40k) and the new Spartan assault tanks. (ok in the fluff they have hovering ones... but heyho I wont cry about it)
Off topic, but with the hype of Guilliman vs The Silent King, Im shocked you haven’t talked about the Silent King ALONE, and the nexus the TSK has been making.
Great video, thank you! Especially for someone like me, who loves the lore but has no idea how to play the game. I also enjoyed your videos on other armies and how to build them. Besides that, could you maybe do a video on the different makers of models that are available? I have no idea why some models are by GW themselves while others are made by a subsidiary of them Forgeworld. What's that about? This could be a bigger video about the History of Games Workshop. Anyways, thank you Ian!
Gw makes the plastic models and fw makes the unique and specialised models in resin. Its kinda that simple. Basically the really big stuff is typically going to be fw resin (such as the titans and tau manta) whereas the baneblade and knights are kinda as big as gw currently goes in plastic.
Hello Arbiter Ian, I am a wargamer from South Korea. I'm helping a local HH community to grow, and I need good vids like this. I'd liked to add Korean subtitle to your youtube videos but few years ago UA-cam blocked that(adding subtitles by not-a-videomaker). So If you may allow, may I download your video and add subtitle and upload to private channel for Korean HH gamers and share it with them? With due respect, I'll definitely notice on the video that this is your video and post links to your channel. It'll be just ~50 people to watch the vid in Korea(they're same warhammer lovers but just facing difficulty with English) and considering the number, I assume no damage will be there for your channel. Conversely they'll be your new fan. And I'll let you know once each video with subtitle is uploaded with links. Can I get your allow, Arbiter Ian?
So no old plastic being added to the Heresy list and no old run being moved to plastic but we DID lose the ability to bring Sisters with us? This seems... Bad?
Sisters got a whole new list with lots of new entries, and I guess they can still be allied in to a Custodes list. It's very possible that some of this stuff might be moved to plastic too, we don't know yet.
@@ArbitorIan I guess. I don't have the book so I could be wrong but the way you put it made it sound like the Sisters were a separate army entirely which would be odd since they finally fixed it so the Talons were all one army in 9th. I was also really hoping to be able to use my plastic bikes since you literally get 3 of them for cost of 1 resin bike and those prices are just criminal. There's always other options though🏴☠️
I don't think I can ever collect custodes, I love them so much, was considering buying a 3rd party version not long befpre burning of prospero broight them official models, and I was so happy... And then GW decided to make two different custodes ranges, one in plastic and one in resin, amd the plastic range wasn't able to be used in heresy! 7 years later I'm still salty, even now with plastic heresy kits galore, heresy custodes reside in resin... They sculpted whole new terminators and jetbikes just to force heresy players to buy resin from forge world after giving us hope that heresy would come to plastic... And now I'm in a position where I could buy forge world custodes if I wanted to, I can't bc every time I'd look at them I'd be reminded of GW treated it's most dedicated fanbase the HH players
You continue to mention "Solerite power gauntlet and Power Talons, which don't seem to be available anywhere yet", but aren't these the same as the Aquilons have? Yeah, that's not easy access, but they exist.
Yeah, you can get them in terminator scale in that kit, but you can't buy them in any other readily available kit, and not scaled for a regular custodian
Hmm. Depends. It has the 40k Jetbikes and terminators which TECHNICALLY you can't use in heresy. But if you're up for doing some weapon conversions and your local group are cool then I'm sure it's fine.
Only annoying thing about this book in the magisterium Vexilla option for example u cannot take a Vexilla and guardian for the basic squad the sentinel gaurd unit cannot take the shield and Vexilla combo and the sagittarius unit can take one with a adrathic destructor which there isn't a model weapon for fairly annoying hopefully they will faq with other options
I think - but I'm not totally sure - that it might be the other way around, because Custodes were released for heresy a few years before getting a 40k codex. So possibly more that, when expanding the army for 40k, the design team decided on new 40k termies and bikes instead of making the FW ones plastic
They were bloody terrifying in HH1. I remember facing an army of about 20 a few years back with my Militia and a Baneblade, a Stormlord, two Malcadors and some Leman Russes didn't make a dent!
They are very bad now. They will murder anything in melee however with just a 6++ and no shooting just hold back and counter attack. Dreadnoughts have no brutal so are easily countered by the legion contemptors. The best custodes army will be a horde of guardians just running across the field.
This video made me realize: Simply by getting the current Custodes combat patrol box from 40k and doing a little kitbashing (mostly on the Terminators), I could have a nice allied detachment in Horus Heresy.
I do love my golden boys. I play them all the time in 40k but just recently started getting into them in 30k, luckily all the infantry in my army are magnetised so adding extra options and arms to represent all the additional weapons available in 30k has been a fun pet project for a while now
Kitbash tip. If you got the Heresy box and have terminator combi bolters and power fists left over, you can use those bits on the plastic Custodes termies and make them Aquilons.
FYI for Haetaron Guard: even though they can take a presidium shield AND axe or spear, they won't be able to use those weapons if equipped with the shield. The shield rules say "models with a presidium shield do not gain an extra attack when charging and can not make attacks in the assault phase with weapons that have the 2-handed special rule". So unfortunately no spear/axe bros with shields.
Oh yeah!
Damn. Was really hoping to have shield and spear boys, it's just so cool!
My favorite army! I love how few models it takes to make a usable army, and how while they usually have only one option for any given niche, they pretty much always have *one* option for a given niche. You can always find a Custodes unit that does what you want; and you usually don't have to overanalyze which one you want.
Plus it's just fun to be to Space Marines what Space Marines are to most other factions.
yes, but the price on forgeworld are so much that i need to sell one kidney to buy a whole army
Thank you for making this video and making it easy to understand and concise. Really enjoyable to learn about this faction and miniatures. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
The custodes are always such an interesting faction. In some ways I think they still represent the strangeness of the early Imperium as it is being born in 30k, and what remains of it in 40k. They have a distinctly this is recognisable as being produced by humans whilst also not looking human at all
There's something satisfying about fielding an entire army of champions. As if any single normal troop would have constituted a hero unit in any other army. And you're just saying, "what if I just threw a couple dozen of those guys at a problem?"
It helps that, despite the kits being newer (and thus costlier to build than second hand plastics from the 90s), you'll end up buying, building, and painting far fewer of them.
Really glad that you've got your Liber Imperium copy!
I hope more factions from the book be reviewed)
Any time I am doing the washing up… for my morning movement (apologies), I come to this channel. I’ve watched it all twice now so… can you upload more frequently. Great content. One review I would appreciate, short stories with a book named “Deathwing”. I read it 10+ times growing up and would love to hear your view on it
Thanks for the insights. Envious I have to wait a week for my Liber.
Another Great Vid. I think it would be cool to see one for the space marine legion specific units/models.
I don't even play HH, but this vid was fantastic! Very clear and informative. Really enjoyed listening!
Awwww man I love all the Forgeworld Custodes stuff. If they did them in plastic and sold them much cheaper, I would definitely break down and buy everything.
I'm sure with cavill involved with the 5v projects he's going to be dropping serious hints about new custodes plastic models, especially I he ends up playing valdor like he wants. New plastic custodes to tie in with a series could work well potentially
Holy smokes I just noticed the Sub. count 63K HUGE jump from when I jumped in during the pandemic. 👍 Well done guys.
Waiting for other armies from the book for you to talk about but golden boys are awesome to see.
Always loved their hats. Super genes were cool but kudos to the emperor for those hats.
fantastic video. I am now really buzzing for the Sisters of Silence section. Because it looks like those entries in the Liber Imperium appears to be expanded so it will be interesting if I need to convert/modify.
i feel like the emperor whenever i play custodes in that i cannot bear to actually play custodes because it makes me too sad to take casualties
Another 10/10 vid from the goat
Just what i need in my life
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Whilst you can equip shield and spear, and shield and axe on haeteron guard, the praesdium shield doesn't allow you to use two handed close combat weapons which means you can't attack with them in close combat (this is a change from heresy 1.0 where there was no such restriction on the shield
Get some Grey Knight falchions and you are all good on Meridian Blades. And the falchions were not really taken in 9th edition 40K so there are probably a lot out there if you know someone that plays GK in your local area.
Sorry I haven't become a patreon yet @arbitorian - I'm a mere theatre carpenter with 4 mouths to feed so can't afford the extra outlay. Please know I would if I could before any other youtuber (I used to do music for WintersSEO, Moarhammer and DZTV, but after finishing with them, there is no one I like more. Well done to WhiteBat Audio for the intro as it is spectacular! Thank you, Ian
I really wish we got some of the cool FW stuff in plastic. I love the Venatari and the Custodes vehicles, but damn if they aren't expensive
Great video.
I just binged your Eisenhorn and Revanor book club videos and if you liked those then i STRONGLY recommend you read the Watchers of the Throne trilogy by Chris Wraight. ...dogged Inquisitors, deadly female assassins, mystery, intrigue...it has it all.
That's a great series.
Yeah, I've read it. They're really good and Chris Wright is always fantastic
You always get a thumbs up from me just for calling competitive 40k silly 😋
Great overview.
If ever there was a faction to use with the AL Mobius Configuration WL trait, it is this one. They can be counted to stick until you make your reserve roll and bring in your other forces.
Not including Allarus terminators or vertus praetors in was a bad idea.
Would it be possible to go back and do the HH 2.0 Knight Rules? I really want to enjoy HH2.0, however I play Knights as they are my favourite faction lore wise; and despite having many changes that make them feel more fun in certain aspects It doesn't seem to be clicking enjoyment wise. I am wondering if I am simply not comprehending something about how they are meant to be played that inhibits my enjoyment and am wondering if a rules rundown will help me.
New custodes player here (started with them 3 months ago as my 4th army in 40k and maybe will pick up 30k with them)
I find it a missed chance that hey didn't give them land raiders (like in 40k) and the new Spartan assault tanks. (ok in the fluff they have hovering ones... but heyho I wont cry about it)
Off topic, but with the hype of Guilliman vs The Silent King, Im shocked you haven’t talked about the Silent King ALONE, and the nexus the TSK has been making.
There are some awesome STL files out there so, your 3d printer is an excellent and cheap place to find them.
Great video, thank you! Especially for someone like me, who loves the lore but has no idea how to play the game. I also enjoyed your videos on other armies and how to build them.
Besides that, could you maybe do a video on the different makers of models that are available? I have no idea why some models are by GW themselves while others are made by a subsidiary of them Forgeworld. What's that about? This could be a bigger video about the History of Games Workshop. Anyways, thank you Ian!
Gw makes the plastic models and fw makes the unique and specialised models in resin. Its kinda that simple. Basically the really big stuff is typically going to be fw resin (such as the titans and tau manta) whereas the baneblade and knights are kinda as big as gw currently goes in plastic.
Custodes should also be relatively easy to paint. Just dip 'em in Gold and you are 95% done.
Great video Custodes are cool looking, but price point is too high to run a full force (for me).
In 40k the different custodes factions had different color schemes. Is this the case in 30k, or are all gold and red?
There's no official listed colour schemes for subfactions, but non-gold ones wouldn't look out of place.
I just looked up the prices on forgeworld. Now I know why they're called the golden boys.
7:54 little kitten
Could you please do the imperial cults and militia
Will you perhaps be doing a Sister's of Silence video?
I will!
9:58 you forgot to mention the most important part they are not assault vehicles so you can't disembark and charge from them.
Hello Arbiter Ian, I am a wargamer from South Korea. I'm helping a local HH community to grow, and I need good vids like this. I'd liked to add Korean subtitle to your youtube videos but few years ago UA-cam blocked that(adding subtitles by not-a-videomaker). So If you may allow, may I download your video and add subtitle and upload to private channel for Korean HH gamers and share it with them? With due respect, I'll definitely notice on the video that this is your video and post links to your channel. It'll be just ~50 people to watch the vid in Korea(they're same warhammer lovers but just facing difficulty with English) and considering the number, I assume no damage will be there for your channel. Conversely they'll be your new fan. And I'll let you know once each video with subtitle is uploaded with links. Can I get your allow, Arbiter Ian?
Banana boys!
So no old plastic being added to the Heresy list and no old run being moved to plastic but we DID lose the ability to bring Sisters with us?
This seems... Bad?
Sisters got a whole new list with lots of new entries, and I guess they can still be allied in to a Custodes list. It's very possible that some of this stuff might be moved to plastic too, we don't know yet.
@@ArbitorIan I guess. I don't have the book so I could be wrong but the way you put it made it sound like the Sisters were a separate army entirely which would be odd since they finally fixed it so the Talons were all one army in 9th.
I was also really hoping to be able to use my plastic bikes since you literally get 3 of them for cost of 1 resin bike and those prices are just criminal.
There's always other options though🏴☠️
They are. Totally different list, but 30k allows for allied detachments so you could still field Custodes and Sisters in the same force if you want
Well, I've learned something new; it is pronounced "Lie-ber" not "Lee-ber".
The post-title shot of Ian staring in to the camera is kind of bleak 😋
Like library!
@@ArbitorIan Oh, you mean the Lee-brary? 🤪😄
I don't think I can ever collect custodes, I love them so much, was considering buying a 3rd party version not long befpre burning of prospero broight them official models, and I was so happy...
And then GW decided to make two different custodes ranges, one in plastic and one in resin, amd the plastic range wasn't able to be used in heresy! 7 years later I'm still salty, even now with plastic heresy kits galore, heresy custodes reside in resin...
They sculpted whole new terminators and jetbikes just to force heresy players to buy resin from forge world after giving us hope that heresy would come to plastic...
And now I'm in a position where I could buy forge world custodes if I wanted to, I can't bc every time I'd look at them I'd be reminded of GW treated it's most dedicated fanbase the HH players
You continue to mention "Solerite power gauntlet and Power Talons, which don't seem to be available anywhere yet", but aren't these the same as the Aquilons have? Yeah, that's not easy access, but they exist.
Yeah, you can get them in terminator scale in that kit, but you can't buy them in any other readily available kit, and not scaled for a regular custodian
@@ArbitorIan "Oh this? Yeah it's a POWER gauntlet. You want it big, to get the power." 😄
Is the Custodes Christmas Box a good way to start a HH army?
Hmm. Depends. It has the 40k Jetbikes and terminators which TECHNICALLY you can't use in heresy. But if you're up for doing some weapon conversions and your local group are cool then I'm sure it's fine.
@@ArbitorIan Thank you!
Only annoying thing about this book in the magisterium Vexilla option for example u cannot take a Vexilla and guardian for the basic squad the sentinel gaurd unit cannot take the shield and Vexilla combo and the sagittarius unit can take one with a adrathic destructor which there isn't a model weapon for fairly annoying hopefully they will faq with other options
Sooo .. .... I may have fallen in love wiv yew... Do you sell miniature clones? 😊
Really sucks they didn’t roll in the terminators and bikes from 40k, maybe there is a lore reason but still.
I think - but I'm not totally sure - that it might be the other way around, because Custodes were released for heresy a few years before getting a 40k codex.
So possibly more that, when expanding the army for 40k, the design team decided on new 40k termies and bikes instead of making the FW ones plastic
@@ArbitorIan oh ok that makes sense👍
Not excited to see these across the table. Gonna have to hurry up with my armoured spear head to deal with this
They were bloody terrifying in HH1. I remember facing an army of about 20 a few years back with my Militia and a Baneblade, a Stormlord, two Malcadors and some Leman Russes didn't make a dent!
They are very bad now. They will murder anything in melee however with just a 6++ and no shooting just hold back and counter attack. Dreadnoughts have no brutal so are easily countered by the legion contemptors. The best custodes army will be a horde of guardians just running across the field.
henry caville sent me
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This video made me realize: Simply by getting the current Custodes combat patrol box from 40k and doing a little kitbashing (mostly on the Terminators), I could have a nice allied detachment in Horus Heresy.
Where’s my sisters of silence video? lol jk 😂
Hehe you say "hech q".