What Are the Differences Between Rap Sub-Genres? - Brief Overview of Rap

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  • @aviianstudiosofficial
    @aviianstudiosofficial 2 роки тому +14

    I am a co-owner of a recording studio / production company in Houston, TX (massive reap scene) and I just moved into the music world.This has been really educational for me to understand more about our engineer's side of the company, but also understand my artists better! Thanks for the content and nice work! I respect your knowledge as a producer! Will be subscribing for more!

  • @7rax3x
    @7rax3x 2 роки тому +10

    This is the only video I’ve found that gave a thorough explain with a bit a history. Thank you!

  • @Pressplay_Media_EU
    @Pressplay_Media_EU 2 роки тому +55

    This list doesn't even scrape how many sub-genres there are : now subgenres have their own subgenres and this is where things keep getting more and more interesting as the years progress

    • @estosiesrock
      @estosiesrock 11 місяців тому +7

      Do your own video, then

    • @sclom5676
      @sclom5676 15 днів тому

      What the other guy said, except I don't mean it rudely. Would legitimately love a video actually explaining that.

  • @Prince-px7zq
    @Prince-px7zq 2 роки тому +3

    Tbh didn't know all these till now. Good work!

  • @ThePursoodm
    @ThePursoodm 2 роки тому +18

    Right idea but some things I would disagree with or add. Old School Hip hop was a very anti-disco movement, sure there are some rappers that rapped over disco beats but most were using breakbeats from Funk music. The old school was making boom bap too, it just sounds different from the more modern boom bap. Where you have Gangsta, it sounds like you are really describing G-Funk or the West Coast sound (or i guess the original west coast sound). There is definitely plenty of gangsta rap over boom bap production and other styles of production. The main thing missing here is the electrofunk/electro-hop tree. That initial electro music led to G-Funk and Miami Bass. Then I would say Miami Bass and Dirty South led into Crunk. Obviously with genres there's no perfect diagram but I think some of these things would paint it more accurately.

  • @SIRAJPRODUCTIONS
    @SIRAJPRODUCTIONS 3 роки тому +32

    Good video but, you should put another line since NY drill came from UK drill. Similar to how UK drill came from Chicago drill

    • @TheKraftykid
      @TheKraftykid 2 роки тому +2

      Good point

    • @MAGA_TRUMP_TARDO_614
      @MAGA_TRUMP_TARDO_614 2 роки тому

      Nahh NY drill came from Chicago drill UK drill came from NY drill

    • @ashleybellamy3354
      @ashleybellamy3354 2 роки тому +3

      @@MAGA_TRUMP_TARDO_614 Yh but UK drill is better, all NY had was Pop smoke, RIP btw

    • @MAGA_TRUMP_TARDO_614
      @MAGA_TRUMP_TARDO_614 2 роки тому +1

      @@ashleybellamy3354 UK drill is better to people in UK but I'm in USA so I say NY is better.
      No one cares about that big chin accent y'all got sipping on tea and $hit lmao 🤣

    • @ashleybellamy3354
      @ashleybellamy3354 2 роки тому +2

      @@MAGA_TRUMP_TARDO_614 Depends who you listen to, people like aich or central cee are shit but there's great rappers without that Husky accent like Skepta or Dave who are really the J Cole and Kendrick equivalent of the UK

  • @remyliu5197
    @remyliu5197 3 роки тому +6

    Superrrrrrr helpful for DJ who just starts to dive into HipHop area. Cuz a lot of videos are differentiating subgenres of rapping music by its lyric. I’m not saying they are not helpful, but from a DJ perspective, I’m starting diving into this area by differentiating the type of beats first.

    • @prodkuhl
      @prodkuhl  3 роки тому

      glad I could help man appreciate the love

    • @alonsotamariz
      @alonsotamariz 3 роки тому +1

      same here!! great job man

    • @prodkuhl
      @prodkuhl  3 роки тому

      @@alonsotamariz thanks man!

  • @vyltrix1908
    @vyltrix1908 3 роки тому +13

    Great video, only flaw I see is how you didn't manage to put in Grime somewhere between Crunk and UK/NYC drill. I know you said you wouldn't include genres outside of the U.S. (and to be fair you did mention Grime a bit in the video) but I think it matters a lot in this context since the production style of modern drill is heavily influenced by it.

    • @prodkuhl
      @prodkuhl  3 роки тому +3

      I'm not super familiar with Grime as a whole but I debated putting it on there sort of on the outside of the chart since it's from the UK

    • @prodkuhl
      @prodkuhl  3 роки тому +1

      @Husain Azhar I'll take your word for it man

    • @jaypanget4245
      @jaypanget4245 3 роки тому +1

      @Husain Azhar and Grime is its own Genre not a Subgenre

    • @TheKraftykid
      @TheKraftykid 2 роки тому +1

      UK Drill is a mix of Chicago Drill and Grime, and while UK Drill is a subgenre of Hip-Hop, Grime is not. It's closer to the electronic genres first. I appreciate him leaving out Grime because he doesn't know the intricacies. So props to @Kuhl.

  • @drillionaire4661
    @drillionaire4661 3 роки тому +7

    Chicago Drill its a sub-genre of Trap too

    • @AKARWATV
      @AKARWATV 3 роки тому +1

      Know none bro,,,

  • @johnjv
    @johnjv 11 місяців тому +2

    I respect his view on these things and he is a little young so I feel like he would explain some of the older genres a little better if he were around during that time, but anyway, I agree and disagree with a few things lol. I feel like he did a pretty decent job trying to explain and def explained some of the modern genres pretty well but there were a few things that almost made me drop my hot pocket. It’s not a big deal but I think “rap pop” is more commonly recognized as just mainstream hip hop but I agree with the artists he mentioned. I find it weird that he listed (west cost) as it’s own sub genre but not (East coast/ NY). I guess he did when he listed boom bap, but that doesn’t really make it NY hip hop. NY or the (east coast) is crazy lyrical and there’s a lot of lingo that originated in NY hip hop that other people couldn’t understand. It’s the birthplace. There’s a grittiness to NY hip hop. But that can even be broken down more depending on the borough or whatever wave their on. It could be about gettin money and being fly like Dipset and Bad Boy, Fab, etc… or it could be about stick up kids and huggin the block like 50 or Mobb Deep. Griselda best represents NY/Boom Bap music for this generation in my opinion. And he missed backpack and conscious rap. Rapping knowledge and education. There’s a certain message and sound in this type of music. And “West coast” rap can be broken down more since LA artists sound different from Bay Area artists. It’s not just drinking 40s in a low rider, Bay Area got a bounce, they made hyphy. Now a days it’s pretty uptempo with a smooth delivery. Also I almost kicked my dog when he was speaking about (Old School) and used MC Hammer’s dancin ass as an example when there’s so many legends that better represent and fully embody Old School rap. But na I guess Hammer is technically old school but I’d put him in the mainstream genre or (pop rap). “YEAH” by Usher and Lil Jon might be the highest charting crunk song but it doesn’t best represent the genre. That song is actually a sub genre of a sub genre they used to call Crunk & B. For me I think “BIA BIA” or “Throw it Up” run that category, even “Get Low” with Ying Yang Twinz. He forgot reggaeton too. It was huge for years but NORE brought that to the states in the mid 00’s with ppl like Daddy Yankee and Tego, Don Omar etc… it died down a bit for Americans but it’s huge worldwide, you see what Bad Bunny doing. If you got even a little bit Hispanic blood in you you’re gonna play some reggaeton at a family party. Houston has its own style. That was big in the mid 00’s… Chopped and screw. They the reason these kids pour up these days and they don’t even know it. Also I feel like a huge sub category never mentioned is melodic rap. It’s so common these days thanks to ppl like Drake, Nate Dogg and the wavy one Biggavel. Ppl don’t even realize all these rappers today are literally singing on their records. Back then ppl like Akon and T-Pain were considered R&B artists. They would be rappers in todays world. Ja and Nelly were doing that years ago too and ppl were calling them soft lol. Melodic rap might even be a bigger sub genre than trap these days. And another one, idk what to call it but electronic dance rap? Lol idk, It wasn’t exactly pop rap but it was huge around 2010/2015. This comment too damn long nobody reading all this lol. But nah he made some points and that’s cool but I feel like it’s like when ppl talk about Michael Jordan. You can hear about him and watch some highlights but you just had to be there to experience it at that moment in real time to really understand it. Cool video tho it explains enough for anyone unfamiliar.

    • @oo-xd4sr
      @oo-xd4sr 8 місяців тому

      Sorry if I respond to this 2 months late, but really a great comment. I'm not from USA but I love rap and over the years I listened to almost every album, from the 80s to this days, and I really appreciate when somebody is able to write this type of analysis. Since it seems you're more experienced than me (i'm only 21 years old) and you lived different eras of rap, I have a specific question for you: who do you think is the more influential rapper of all time? Because I think obviously Rakim changed the game, same for rappers like Kanye, Ice Cube and many others, but I also think ATCQ really defined the 90s east coast sound, especially with the type of beats we can hear on The Low End Theory. I don't know if it's my impression but basically every song on that album is like a "type beat" that would've been used after, we have the jazzy loops but also darker beats (like Buggin' Out and Infamous Date Rape) that I think directly inspired groups like Mobb Deep, Wu-Tang etc. I think many people underestimate Q-Tip and Phife influence, sound-wise and rapping-wise, just wanted to know your opinion ✌

  • @robertacosta6633
    @robertacosta6633 3 роки тому +11

    Forgot about Conscience/ Alternative rap, Snap music, Miami Base , Trip Hop , Midwest, G- Funk , Rap Rock , Jazz Inspired , Hick Hop , Freestyle and I will also say dubstep or partially reggae / dancehall .
    Reggaeton Spanish Music

    • @karimeamine3158
      @karimeamine3158 2 роки тому +1

      You should do that video duh 👍

    • @shadowThehedgehog401
      @shadowThehedgehog401 Рік тому +1

      Bruh how reggaeton is a subgenre, it was influenced but not subgenre lmao

    • @shadowThehedgehog401
      @shadowThehedgehog401 Рік тому +1

      Bruh how reggaeton is a subgenre, it was influenced but not subgenre lmao

    • @hstone39
      @hstone39 4 місяці тому

      ​@@shadowThehedgehog401 Reggaeton artists are basically rapping in those songs

    • @nob7094
      @nob7094 Місяць тому

      He said right at the start of the vid that there are a ton more subgenres that he won’t cover. He didn’t forget them, he just prioritized more well-known genres to keep the video a reasonable length.

  • @Ok-tl1dv
    @Ok-tl1dv Рік тому +2

    Old school was more like late 70s - late 80s

  • @TheRealUnknownHere
    @TheRealUnknownHere 2 роки тому +2

    Pronounced FUH- KNEE-TOE (FANETO) i mess wit u tho YESSIRRRRR WOOOOOOOO

    • @prodkuhl
      @prodkuhl  2 роки тому

      my pronunciation sucks so I appreciate the feedback and love g

  • @bhka6423
    @bhka6423 2 роки тому +7

    Gangsta rap has nothing to do with the music. It has to do with the lyrics. You can use Boom Bap, G-Funk, Trap and many other beats to make gangsta rap.
    And I personally call the music that Mobb Deep does "dark rap" that has some boom bap elements. I don’t know if there is really a name for this subgenre but songs like shook ones part I and part II, Q.U hectic, party over, extortion, get dealt with, eye for a eye and so on sound very dark. Songs like duel of the iron mic, swordsman, 4th chamber (from GZA) also have a dark sound. The roots also have very dark songs like It just don’t stop, episodes, sections and so on. I could also name rappers who had dark beats but were completely different like Brotha Lynch, Gangsta Pat, Ganksta Nip, etc.

  • @brightking3426
    @brightking3426 5 місяців тому

    Think you man very intéressant i learn much from you peace UP from algeria ❤😊

  • @RebornThaRebizzle
    @RebornThaRebizzle 7 місяців тому +1

    Gangsta Rap and Boombap should be under the same category as being Old School, because Gangsta Rap was out around the same time as Boombap. The difference is Boombap is Eastcoast and Gangsta Rap is Westcoast. So that chart is pretty wrong of itself. NWA, which is Doc Dre and his crew was out in the late 80's to early 90's. EPMD, LL Cool J. A Tribe Called Quest they're Boombap that was also out in the late 80's to early 90's. So Boombap and Gangsta Rap should be under the same category as Old School.

    •  3 місяці тому

      Gangsta rappers often popped on boombap beats

  • @BenzoMerranzan
    @BenzoMerranzan 4 місяці тому

    Re: IP - as long as you're commenting on the content that you are reproducing you are protected under Fair usage, both legally and within the UA-cam guidelines.

  • @jaypanget4245
    @jaypanget4245 3 роки тому +5

    Great video but there's a mistake Lil Jon didn't start Crunk he popularized it. Crunk existed before Lil Jon and the oldest Crunk song I can lookup is "Three 6 Mafia Gettem Crunk" and this is a song u can see where Trap got their drum style.
    And another mistake as u said Trap has alot of subgenre and u said that Drill is like a cousin of Trap well thats because Drill is a Subgenre of Trap

    • @prodkuhl
      @prodkuhl  3 роки тому +1

      appreciate the feedback man.

    • @Triplep1985
      @Triplep1985 3 роки тому +4

      3-6 just did so much for rap...legends.

    • @jaypanget4245
      @jaypanget4245 3 роки тому

      @Lloyd Frayne I'm just correcting his mistake

  • @lilithblack4317
    @lilithblack4317 Рік тому

    thank u sm this helped me alot

  • @j1lovescum483
    @j1lovescum483 3 роки тому +6

    I’m pretty sure you forgot gay drill but I will let the violation slide

  • @leewightman8001
    @leewightman8001 2 роки тому

    I knew mobb deep shook ones part 2 was gonna get used for the boom bap example

  • @MRSOUPER
    @MRSOUPER Рік тому +1

    And how is west coast a sub genre to crunk? I would say its a rap/hip-hop sub

  • @tatlockandfriends
    @tatlockandfriends 2 роки тому +1

    the biggest glaring issue i see is plenty of gangsta rap is on boom bap beats??

  • @CrazySwede99
    @CrazySwede99 3 роки тому +1

    East coast man how did you not have that in the video

    • @jamg6311
      @jamg6311 2 роки тому

      Agreed… Makes you question the whole thing.

    • @christopherrelator954
      @christopherrelator954 2 роки тому

      He didn't directly mention or state East Cost... but he did mention Boom Bap and on that side of old school when he mentioned "Shoot Ones by MobbDeep"... and they're East Coast rappers.

  • @laibakmusic
    @laibakmusic 5 місяців тому +1

    Your definition of Gangsta rap is off. Plus Em was never a gangsta rapper. He basically came after the Westcoast G rap had tampered off. Mention Mc Eith Eazy E Ice T Ice Cube 2Pac Scarface. Not Eminem. And G Rap sounds are bright not dark. Dr Dre beats are elegant beautiful masterpieces. Dj Quik, Battlecat, Dj Uneek. C'man...good vid regardless

  • @johnbooker7153
    @johnbooker7153 2 роки тому +1

    Did you do any research before you decided to teach on this, because you started off wrong. Maybe refer to the HIP-HOP FOUNDATION SERIES by Jayquan

  • @Giovanni-ch1kw
    @Giovanni-ch1kw 10 місяців тому

    Nyc drill comes from uk drill and uk drill doesn't come from chicago drill, uk drill derives from grime. That was a huge flaw

  • @mattdeinken6580
    @mattdeinken6580 2 місяці тому

    Grandmaster flash would be more old shool(disco rap)

  • @MRSOUPER
    @MRSOUPER Рік тому +1

    I gotta say, gangsta rap is more the NWA route. And early eminem was horrorcore. Gangsta rap was mostly violent lyrics with a message. Not just killing people and stuff. And 2001 by dre is an album that I dont consider gangsta

    • @charnelveil669
      @charnelveil669 Рік тому

      Early Horrorcore was ESHAM who's also from Detroit.

  • @charnelveil669
    @charnelveil669 2 роки тому +12

    Actually Rap started in the late 70s'. Sugar Hill Gang's Rapper's Delight is OLD SCHOOL. If you're going to be a guest in the house of Hip Hop, Learn the shit!

  • @mitchross4002
    @mitchross4002 Рік тому

    What youre calling the first rap music is already deep into rap history. Old School disco Rap is late-70s to early-80s (and there was even rap music before that), then you got "new school" rap like run dmc in the mid-80s, then theres golden age rap from the late-80s to early-90s which is based mostly on funk samples.

  • @OTGEnVivo
    @OTGEnVivo Рік тому +1

    Its early 80s not Late 80s

  • @juliapirrat3026
    @juliapirrat3026 2 роки тому +1

    Good video

  • @mustafadagreat1031
    @mustafadagreat1031 Рік тому

    I think lofi is gonna be the next dominant hip-hop sound

  • @LevGrandSorcerer
    @LevGrandSorcerer 2 роки тому +2

    What about PHONK?!?! Very new Awesome Car Drift Sub Genre

    • @ProdbyJeyKey
      @ProdbyJeyKey 2 роки тому +1

      well youre talking about drift phonk. thats a subgenre of phonk itself. try listening to some of the ogs like soudiere, dj yung vamp, mythic.

    • @microwavedutertogestation3559
      @microwavedutertogestation3559 2 роки тому

      @@ProdbyJeyKey just listen to Memphis rap

    • @ProdbyJeyKey
      @ProdbyJeyKey 2 роки тому +1

      @@microwavedutertogestation3559 i do actually

    • @trocustar3450
      @trocustar3450 Рік тому

      @@ProdbyJeyKey memphis rap is also sub genre right? If yes then what is precursor of memphis rap?

  • @JayThomasofficial
    @JayThomasofficial 9 місяців тому

    Remember horror core

  • @travistang13
    @travistang13 3 роки тому

    This shit is really niceee.

  • @nother_hed
    @nother_hed 5 місяців тому

    how would u describe the kind of beats millyz uses? a lot of artists use this style (dipset, dave east, mozzy etc) . It's low bpm (I think) but uses like, muted, soulful samples. It kinda illicites an emotional feel. I'm not a producer but I'd describe it as somewhere between boom bap and trap cuz it can have rapid high hats. It's definitely a vibe. Just wondering how you'd classify it. thx

  • @CalledByHim
    @CalledByHim 7 місяців тому +1

    Sorry man good try, but think you might have to redo this video lots of important information missing.

  • @JayThomasofficial
    @JayThomasofficial 9 місяців тому

    What is city morgue and suicide boys considered

  • @ycumbess
    @ycumbess Рік тому

    The first years of hip hop were the late 70’s early 80’s. That’s when rap started, not the late 80’s. Think Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five and Curtis Blow. West Coast goes back before Dre and Tupac. Dre was originally apart of NWA along with Ice Cube and Easy E. They were popular in the early 90’s.

  • @fernandomaron87
    @fernandomaron87 Рік тому +1

    When you called MC Hammer old school, i had to quit the video. You ignored a whole chunk of history in there.

  • @SociallyChill
    @SociallyChill 2 роки тому +1

    If you play it at 1.5x he talks at normal speed

    • @20misscherry
      @20misscherry 2 місяці тому

      Thanks 😂😂😂 he speaks REALLY slow!

  • @denzibluesolinfinitymusicw6535
    @denzibluesolinfinitymusicw6535 9 місяців тому

    They didn't rap over disco they rapped over breakbeats im from NYC born and raised in Harlem and im now 51 and witnessed rap music and hip hop culture be born why did you use MC Hammer for old school instead of Grandmaster flash and the furious five Mobb Deep was never considered as boom bap gangster rap didn't start on the west coast the east coast already gangster rap artist like Spoonie Gee

  • @JPK169
    @JPK169 Рік тому

    Dude how you forget conscious rap and melodic/swaving rap

  • @jonlap7027
    @jonlap7027 2 роки тому +1

    No shade. But shook ones isn’t pop rap dude. It’s gangsta or east coast. Or gritty. Pop rap is like In Da Club. Or Bust a Move by young MC. It’s more about a good time vs deep self expression. And mc hammer is not rly a good example of old school. He was a joke. Big daddy Kane. Or rakim. Or epmd are legit examples of authentic old school rap.
    Stopped watching bc you don’t seem to have a firm grasp on the genres.

    • @bhka6423
      @bhka6423 2 роки тому

      Mobb Deep did much dark shit. I call it dark rap although there is not really a name for the subgenre. The roots, Capone N Noreaga, Big L and so on did that too. It was even on some Wu-Tang songs.

    • @jonlap7027
      @jonlap7027 2 роки тому

      @@bhka6423 exactly. But growing up in nyc at that time it was called gangsta rap or east coast gritty rap or street rap.

  • @robertacosta6633
    @robertacosta6633 2 роки тому

    Eastcoast Hardcore
    Horrorcore
    Raunchy Rap
    Christian Rap
    Old School/ Golden Age
    RockSteady
    New Wave

  • @nikodarea1ist618
    @nikodarea1ist618 Рік тому

    What about Detroit/flint drill

  • @faragf.bliblo1793
    @faragf.bliblo1793 3 роки тому

    I'm stop at the end of right section and I don't want to know nothing about left one...done with that

  • @midnitekreapa8372
    @midnitekreapa8372 Рік тому +1

    You FORGOT... Horrorcore??
    Memphis Rap??
    Acid Rap?? (from Detroit)
    Midwest Flow?? (Mainly use the Triplet Flow)

  • @robertacosta6633
    @robertacosta6633 2 роки тому

    Chicano Rap
    Beats and Base

  • @cashwreck4872
    @cashwreck4872 2 роки тому

    What bout memphis rap?

  • @oddtick
    @oddtick 2 роки тому +1

    There's also Trap Metal, Hyper Punk, and Death Phonk

  • @notmrpronot3179
    @notmrpronot3179 9 місяців тому

    You missed alot of important ones. Make a part 2

  • @blackstarz7928
    @blackstarz7928 2 роки тому

    grime anyone?

  • @De_La_Evo
    @De_La_Evo 2 роки тому

    so is kid cuddi emo?

    • @oddtick
      @oddtick 2 роки тому

      Not really no

  • @dom-i-neek2923
    @dom-i-neek2923 3 роки тому +6

    Highly inaccurate. Must redo

  • @OTGEnVivo
    @OTGEnVivo Рік тому +2

    Garbage. You dont know your facts. Old School is early 80s...MC hammer was mainstream commercialized rap, he had a cereal, a cartoon, come on bro...

    • @thenamelesschannel2334
      @thenamelesschannel2334 Рік тому

      Tell me a rap song from the early 80s.

    • @OTGEnVivo
      @OTGEnVivo Рік тому

      @@thenamelesschannel2334 Planet Rock -Afrika Bambatta, Egypt- Egyptian Lover, Sugar Hill Gang, The Message -Grandmaster Flash, Terminator-Kid Frost, Everlasting Bass- Rodney O and Joe Cooley, 6 in the morning-IceT, The Batteram- Toddy Tee

    • @thenamelesschannel2334
      @thenamelesschannel2334 Рік тому

      @@OTGEnVivo OK I admit, you are right on that. But to claim that old school hip hop groups like The Sugar Hill Gang, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five weren’t commercial when the whole genre evolved from discos, disco music and DJing is ridiculous.

    • @thenamelesschannel2334
      @thenamelesschannel2334 Рік тому

      @@OTGEnVivo Lyrics from “Rapper’s Delight” (1979): “Check it out, I'm the C-A-S-AN, the O-V-A and the rest is F-L-Y
      You see, I go by the code of the doctor of the mix and these reasons I'll tell you why
      You see I'm six foot one and I'm tons of fun and I dress to a D
      You see I got more clothes than Muhammad Ali and I dress so viciously
      I got bodyguards, I got two big cars, that definitely ain't the whack
      I got a Lincoln continental and a sunroof Cadillac
      So after school, I take a dip in the pool, which is really on the wall
      I got a color TV so I can see the Knicks play basketball
      Hear me talking 'bout checkbooks, credit cards, more money than a sucker could ever spend
      But I wouldn't give a sucker or a bum from the Rucker, not a dime 'til I made it again”

  • @anazi
    @anazi 2 роки тому

    You should have included Snippets and examples like 10 sec of each. So we can FEEL THE DIFFERENCE !!!!!!!!