Never watched this video before. When you mentioned the storytelling structure I was thinking of immortal techniques song, and then you said it and it blew my mind lmao.
I feel like in the last couple of years this has changed for the simple fact that listeners attention spans do not last that long.... and songs have gotten shorter due to algorithms & streaming. BUT this is definitely the traditional format
Yeah, absolutely right. The video was made a few years back, when that structure still worked. Now, it's just quatrains and 8s. Anything longer, max it out to 12 bars. People tune out.
Travis Scott sucks. And 4 minutes is nothing if you have a lot to say. Good rappers use more lyrics and extremely diverse words in their raps than bad rappers do. If you look at Travis Scott lyrics against let’s say Mos Def, Travis Scott is going to have much less lyrics let alone skill.
@@theprophet_-__cxvii__-_8693 I'm italian so I don't really know that deeply American rap but I was just saying that in order to make a track "attractive" for the nowadays community it gotta be less than 4 minutes, if longer its not gonna be a popular song, I didn't mean to say it was gonna be bad
Davide Valentini True. Mainstream music is pretty bad tho. Short songs, reused lyrics, no word diversity and then they keep using the same marketing scheme which was originally intended for kids. Than that grew into everyone’s liking. Most mainstream music isn’t very real. Every aspect of the song is scientifically tailored to get stuck in your head. Specific frequencies, hooks, anything that will get stuck in your head.
Davide Valentini Songs under four minutes are designed so they end quicker and get to the next song quicker. That way you won’t get bored. It’s all marketing
@@theprophet_-__cxvii__-_8693 yeah that's what I meant from the beginning since the video was referring to mainstream music (or at least I intended it as such)... I just meant four minutes for mainstream music is way too much and you're not gonna make it to the charts, and the only exception is travis scott who is up there in the charts with a almost 5 minutes song
The vídeo is very well done but its has the problem of the others i saw.. no One picks a song and gives examples.. whats the difference in the lines from section to section..
Look around, pinpoint the current challenge you are facing and use rhymes to find out how you think about what's happening to you and how to deal with it
If you play any pop song, you will notice how after their verse, they have a section right before the chorus and then one right after it. It's there to make the song more memorable.
lines in the song. Kinda like a sentence in writing. For example: In this here "Im a boss with it authentic all ya frauds better quit with the trash talk before you get tossed in it yall trippin bar rippin yall sippin too much write till my palms drippin lost in it thoughts different" "Im a boss with it authentic all ya frauds better quit with the trash talk before you get tossed in it" would be a bar
Even though I know all these formats. This is very helpful for beginner's.
Thanks for watching. Don't worry, I have some things planned for the more advanced viewers, so I got you : )
Rapping Manual that's what I hoping
You should start a skill share course. Your vids are the best tutorials for rap I've seen so far
Never watched this video before. When you mentioned the storytelling structure I was thinking of immortal techniques song, and then you said it and it blew my mind lmao.
That song is one of the greats man.. When the big reveal happened, I still remember how I felt..
very useful bro thanks
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3 minutes in: wait that’s not a real marker or hand
Really good video my friend. Thank you for putting this together
I feel like in the last couple of years this has changed for the simple fact that listeners attention spans do not last that long.... and songs have gotten shorter due to algorithms & streaming.
BUT this is definitely the traditional format
Yeah, absolutely right. The video was made a few years back, when that structure still worked. Now, it's just quatrains and 8s. Anything longer, max it out to 12 bars. People tune out.
When I make it, I’m giving you credit for my growth
4 minutes is totally crazy unless you're travis scott and you put 3 different beats in a song
Travis Scott sucks. And 4 minutes is nothing if you have a lot to say. Good rappers use more lyrics and extremely diverse words in their raps than bad rappers do. If you look at Travis Scott lyrics against let’s say Mos Def, Travis Scott is going to have much less lyrics let alone skill.
@@theprophet_-__cxvii__-_8693 I'm italian so I don't really know that deeply American rap but I was just saying that in order to make a track "attractive" for the nowadays community it gotta be less than 4 minutes, if longer its not gonna be a popular song, I didn't mean to say it was gonna be bad
Davide Valentini True. Mainstream music is pretty bad tho. Short songs, reused lyrics, no word diversity and then they keep using the same marketing scheme which was originally intended for kids. Than that grew into everyone’s liking. Most mainstream music isn’t very real. Every aspect of the song is scientifically tailored to get stuck in your head. Specific frequencies, hooks, anything that will get stuck in your head.
Davide Valentini Songs under four minutes are designed so they end quicker and get to the next song quicker. That way you won’t get bored. It’s all marketing
@@theprophet_-__cxvii__-_8693 yeah that's what I meant from the beginning since the video was referring to mainstream music (or at least I intended it as such)... I just meant four minutes for mainstream music is way too much and you're not gonna make it to the charts, and the only exception is travis scott who is up there in the charts with a almost 5 minutes song
Great video! Wish it had more views. Was the second video to pop up when I searched rap structure
This video is Đope❗💯👌🏼 Just the information İ was lookin For... Awesome Editing Skillz! Funny af 😂
I agree!!! So funny. Loved it.
Perfect example of the story telling structure is J. Cole's "Wet dreamz"
The vídeo is very well done but its has the problem of the others i saw.. no One picks a song and gives examples.. whats the difference in the lines from section to section..
Right!
Blessings bro thank you for sharing this 🙏
Very good. Thank you bro
Love your editing bro🙂
good video!
Glad you enjoyed it
2021 seems more like Chorus 8 Verse 12 Chorus Verse 12 outro. 2:45 song length
Truee..
Great video, Thanx
My pleasure!
You have to look into it
I will not regrets subscribing ur channel 💪
I appreciate it, thank you
Awesome
Great vid thanks !
Glad you liked it!
This beat is lit 🔥nice
this is good bro you're funny
Is that a future reference at 6:06
This helped a lot
Hi bro, ccan u tell me how to get ideas for a song
Look around, pinpoint the current challenge you are facing and use rhymes to find out how you think about what's happening to you and how to deal with it
Im never able to check out your ebook
Good Video, but the 4 Minute thing seems pretty outdated in the rapgame
He said “chorus chorus chorus after chorus **fk me, sigh…*” XD
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Great
Glad you like it
Eminem used the storytelling structure right?
Amnan Syakir not all the time fam
Great video, has anyone got an example of the 'before/after chorus' as I don't really know what he is referring to there? Thanks
If you play any pop song, you will notice how after their verse, they have a section right before the chorus and then one right after it. It's there to make the song more memorable.
@@RappingManualYT a hook
Whats a bar?
lines
lines in the song. Kinda like a sentence in writing. For example: In this here "Im a boss with it authentic all ya frauds better quit with the trash talk before you get tossed in it yall trippin bar rippin yall sippin too much write till my palms drippin lost in it thoughts different"
"Im a boss with it authentic all ya frauds better quit with the trash talk before you get tossed in it" would be a bar
Pre-chorus? You're driving me crazy.
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Great video that I was planning to put into a lesson for my 5/6th grade students.... until you mentioned "intercourse" .. welp I guess that's out
2:05 made me laugh so fucking hard😂
lol your fun
“Structure”
What
Watched it twice. :) ... ... [Also, F'c me. LOL]
I knew he would mention 50 cent.You can’t mention good songwriters and not put 50 cent name there
Dancing with the Devil definitely does something right
When you come here to rap like suga and you realise he's just unique
Who?
@@Prof.Albusdumbledore suga is a korean rapper of group bts, he is the one who insipres me and a lot to rap
@@lazy4430 sounds lame is he anything like GD?
@@Prof.Albusdumbledore he's good search up agust d and bts cyphers on youtube
@@lazy4430 nah hes not good- as a korean listening without translation- it sucks bad
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