Nice to see your mid handicap twin doing the review, you normally button every shot. I think this was on purpose to demonstrate the MAX part of the forgiveness!
Just got the 220 ST-Z Driver on sale in the wrapper because of your reviews. It is an amazing wood. Got the whole line up. 5W, 5H & 6H. We’ll accept the 3 G410 Pings I traded in got me the new 230 ST Max 3 Wood. Haven’t even hit it yet. I am amazed at these Mizuno’s. Great reviews!
Tempted to give the Max a try despite getting the Z at reduced price a month ago... The Z already gives the very pleasant feeling of wanting to square itself up.. (well compared to my previous 2014 old Callaway gamer that is) I can only imagine what the Max would do. Thanks massively again for testing at 3 different speeds, you're setting the standard on YT imho.
I’m enjoying the progress of Mizuno drivers. Fell in love with them since my 1st ST 190 driver I got fit for. I’m still excited about my recent fitting/purchase of my shiny new STZ 230, can’t wait to get it outside! Thanks Jay! Great stuff!
I was striking it soooo bad, bloomin glad I had the Max in my hands testing. Bad day swinging..... the Max made my efforts look so much better than they should have been 😂😂
Yup I’m putting one in the bag. Currently playing a cobra dark speed LS and when it’s good it’s great but my left miss when I hit the toe is horrible. Hit my buddies stz 220 and was so surprised how straight mis hits were. I’m going to order a st 230 max.
Great review! My 13 years old daughter got fitted recently, the fitter who I've known for quite a while and is excellent said that people are still sceptical about mizuno woods! I'll give this one a go! My 13 years old daughter was fitted for the titleist tsr2, her stats were almost identical to this review at mid speed! Carry the the same, a bit less roll asangle of attack 8.4 degrees up, 35.8 degrees decent angle.
Guessing you already have your list of comparison vids planned, or filmed, but hoping you might do a ST-Z vs ST-Max. I know you mentioned a few likely results from shots in this vid had you been using a Z, but would be curious to see a same day head to head.
Jay I'd like to say thank you but I'm not sure I should... seems like your reviews of Mizuno clubs, irons or woods, always end up costing me money! Haha just kidding, awesome review as always!
Looks really good I currently game the Stx 230 Driver and love it, but this does look a lot more forgiving, I was used to the 45” shaft though, would you say it’s way more forgiving
@@AskGolfNut Well you did a fantastic job of reviewing the product, especially to a mid handicapper like myself. Subscribed and look forward to future content!
Great review, I am really tempted to go try this out when I can. I currently play a Mizuno GT180 from 2018, do you think that upgrading to this would be noticeably more forgiving on miss hits? Also, does it use the same adapter as the GT180? It would be nice to keep my shafts (Fujikura SIX XLR8 X-flex and Fujikura Orochi 65g x-flex).
I think the old adapter may fit but the numbers on the hozel may not marry up to the actual loft on the head depending on what you have. You may well find a huge difference between the GT180 and the Max, it's a very different, much more stable head from mishits. You may well not find too much in the way of added distance from the middle but may well find a big gain in off centre strikes 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut That's great to hear. I don't really need more distance with my speed, but more distance and less offline from non-center strike would be very nice. I hope they offer an option to buy the head only. I was pretty surprised at how low the spin was, even in your 108 MPH test the spin was only 2200. I feel like most forgiving drivers have spin closer to 3000 than to 2000.
I have the Mizzy 230X. 10.5 degree. Love it. Is it the longest? No idea really but it works for me. Up from 95-98 MPH SS to 98-102. Ball speed up and carry is further. Went to a regular 50 gram shaft and launch improved higher and spin is solid. Gained 6-8 yards of carry. Getting fit is the key.
Great content as always Jay. I currently play the old classic St 190 and was wondering if the quick change sleeve is the same on the max as the190. I do love my shaft on the190 and would just buy the Max head and use my current shaft........ Thanks again !
It is mostly the same I believe, the writing may not match up depending on the loft of the head etc but it's not the end of the world. You can always swap the shaft adapter to bring it totally I in line with what it should look like 👍🏻
Any time you change the loft it'll change the spin profile, so for this I'd me, looking to use, the offset chamber loft sleeve to dial launch and trajectory. That's the beauty of the offset chamber loft sleeve 👍🏻👍🏻
I trust your recommendation. I am 72 with 70 mph club head speed. Is the Mizuno 230 max something I should consider given the low spin numbers? Smash that like button 👇
For the lower swing speeds there is the higher lofted head option that will add much needed launch and also raise the spin profile 👍🏻 Thanks for the support 👍🏻
@jbh199 Max I'm 12 degrees. The platinum version is a lighter head weight to promote faster swing speeds but is less forgiving than the Max. Honestly I haven't really seen much benefit in the way of huge gains in speed from the Platinum but the extra forgiveness helps with the Max especially from miss hit shots 👍🏻
It's looking more and more like this is going to be my choice, but I'm in a quandary about clubs between driver and 5i, currently I've got 3wd, 5wd and 4hybrid, but I'm wondering if I'd need the same with the new Mizuno??
Would I be correct in assuming that lowering the loft to 7.5* (and subsequently opening the face in the process) would help counteract the "over-gearing" to the left on toe strikes? Cheers
It would do (although the over gearing in real terms is marginal, I'm just being over critical) but it would also open the face now and bias the dispersion more right side. Of course that can be a great thing for a golfer that wants, thats the great thing of having multiple lofts with an ossfet camber loft adapter, you can fit anyone for any shape or missed shot pattern by using the right loft set at the right setting 👍🏻
Hi Matt would depend on a few other things within your delivery of the club but if I had to make an educated guess, I'd say that 10.5 or 12 would work subject to the flight requirements through loft sleeve change 👍🏻👍🏻
Jay, do you know the weights on the X and Z? I am not able to find it anywhere on the internet... PS, at the risk of being nerdy I would love a video on gear effects, you second shot was also (slightly) toe side, still the side spin made it apparently fade instead of draw like shot #1. Is the club path the reason for that, or the face angle? (or more likely a combination?)
There is one thing to bear in mind and that Mizuno and other manufacturers have a small mix of measuring methods which means the same length club can come out 2 different measurements. Only a very small difference but just in case you hear different lengths being spoke about for the same club that's why 👍🏻
Sorry for another question. I struggle with too high spin like big time, which led me to the X and Z versions that work well for me. Is the Max a much higher spinning driver than the Z/X? Or no need to worry? Thx.
No not necessarily however if you struggle with high spin with a driver, it is very much advised to fix the swing mechanism that creates the issue rather than searching for equipment to fix. Swing changes can have a big effect on driver, where as Driver changes have relatively small changes in spin but much bigger changes in moi or forgiveness. 👍🏻
Absolutely have to test within your Fitting. Basically its the same length now on the Max as all the other manufactures use as their standard. Mizuno say they can afford to eek out their normally slightly reduced shaft length due to the Forgiveness of the Head. In reality you'll have to test your strike pattern and also test with a shorter Z or X shaft to see how dispersion changes to make a decision on length 👍
I think its in line with the current Z and X, some of the other manufacturers have gone super premium on price over their current price point. I believe this is set at the same current price 👍
So Mizuno have killed off any sales of the X and Zee (depending on where you are in the world) just as Ping have ruined sales of their Max with the 10k
I'm personally unaware of the retail sales data for the companies however unlike the Qi Max, the ST230 Max and the G430 MAX 10K operate at a different spin profile to that of its siblings within their range. Effectively a golfer would fit into any of them depending on their fitting requirements. It's more of a better and more comprehensive range rather than a replacement for the others in the range 👍🏻👍🏻
I have similar and it may depend on delivery. But I went up to 10.5 on the STX 230 to get optimal launch and spin. I also was fitted to a regular shaft. To my surprise it works. Aldila Ascent. My best on a monitor is 104 SS, 150 ball speed and 251 carry. Good luck!
That's possibly due to previous shaft lengths not being the same length as other manufacturers. The face tech is basically the same as they are all governed to not be too hot, but if the shaft isn't as long then often you don't swing it the same speed and may well lose out on ball speed. Mizuno have done this to promote better control of strike rather than pure speed. The Max is now up at the same length as basically all others 👍🏻
It's a tough choice as the G430 10K has a slightly better launch window for me personally, but actually I find hitting target a touch easier with the ST230 Max. 🤷👍🏻
How much do you get asked to do a vid with a senior, sub 85 mph swing speed? Seems like every year, i try to find my Dad some distance in a new driver. He's in a Callaway Epic Star Max, but he found 10-12 yds with the Rogue ST Max, which surprised me to be honest. I'm inclined to get the Rogue ST for him, but it's now 2 generations behind now and I'd hate to leave tech on the table. It's hard to take all of the youtubers data to get a ballpark, but you all are 300 yards and plus 100 mph swing speed. Not apples to apples. Thoughts? I literally got to the part in this vid where you posted data for different swing speeds! That's crazy! I still want to get data on all the new drivers this year. Even PXG looks interesting. So many clubs to weigh in on. Everybody wants to give him 12.5 but I'm thinking 10.5 for roll out would give more overall yardage that the launch monitors can't account for.
Latest tech is the G430 Max 10K or Qi10 Max. G430 Max too. I'm looking at the Ping 10K Max. If the spin is good, it's a no brainer, being one of the most forgiving drivers of all time.
@lkae4 forgiveness is one thing, but setup and head choice for distance is another thing. Mizuno, Cobra, Paradym (this year or last year), TM and Ping all look tempting. PXG you can only try at their location unfortunately. Gotta go to a couple places and not settle before you get all the data. Hopefully, it will be on a good launch monitor, too.
At 71 with 72 club head speed I learned the following. The distance between the longest and shortest ball is less than 5 yards. Pro v1 left dash goes the farthest but a slower swing speed needs a ball that spins. I hit longer clubs into greens and need stopping power which the kirkland prior generation offers. Hope this helps slower swingers
Hi Charles, sorry are you asking what shaft I tested it with? If so it was the Hzrdus Green same shaft I tested the Z and X drivers with at standard Mizuno length not the extra half inch or so of the Max Std 👍🏻
Just measured the (3) Max I received. Length is 45.5”…and SW in my Hzrdus 6.0/65g Green is D3.8 but total weight only 312g, because head weight with adapter is only 201g. I’m guessing at your 110mph speed…thus less ability to control as some of your shots indicated. Suggest adding some hi density lead tape on back of head..maybe 4-5”, bump head weight up to 204g, and grip at 45”. See what happens.
They have reduced head weight with adapter to ~ 200g, and dropped many std shafts into thr 50g range. Club MOI is length squared is basically length squared x mass. For many slower swing speeds the high club MOI will cause speed reduction, distance carry distance
You're the Tina Tuner of golf club reviews, simply the best.
Better than 62.4% of the rest 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
These slow, medium, fast comparisons are GREAT! lot more work for jay but wonderful content.
Nice to see your mid handicap twin doing the review, you normally button every shot. I think this was on purpose to demonstrate the MAX part of the forgiveness!
I wish it was.... I was having a shocker of a day 😁 at least it got to show just how forgiving the Max is 🤣🤣
Excited for the head to head battles with the other forgiving offerings this year!
Just got the 220 ST-Z Driver on sale in the wrapper because of your reviews. It is an amazing wood. Got the whole line up. 5W, 5H & 6H. We’ll accept the 3 G410 Pings I traded in got me the new 230 ST Max 3 Wood. Haven’t even hit it yet. I am amazed at these Mizuno’s. Great reviews!
Decisions decisions! The max is now on the list to try out!
Defo! I think it's going in the bag straight away 👍🏻
Tempted to give the Max a try despite getting the Z at reduced price a month ago... The Z already gives the very pleasant feeling of wanting to square itself up.. (well compared to my previous 2014 old Callaway gamer that is) I can only imagine what the Max would do. Thanks massively again for testing at 3 different speeds, you're setting the standard on YT imho.
I bought Mizuno STZ 230 for $199, brand new on Ebay last month. Haven't hit it yet since I live in New York.
I’m enjoying the progress of Mizuno drivers. Fell in love with them since my 1st ST 190 driver I got fit for. I’m still excited about my recent fitting/purchase of my shiny new STZ 230, can’t wait to get it outside! Thanks Jay! Great stuff!
Been waiting for this !
I was striking it soooo bad, bloomin glad I had the Max in my hands testing. Bad day swinging..... the Max made my efforts look so much better than they should have been 😂😂
Thank you sooooo much for doing different swing speeds👍👍👍👍👍
My pleasure! 👍
Yup I’m putting one in the bag. Currently playing a cobra dark speed LS and when it’s good it’s great but my left miss when I hit the toe is horrible. Hit my buddies stz 220 and was so surprised how straight mis hits were. I’m going to order a st 230 max.
Great review! My 13 years old daughter got fitted recently, the fitter who I've known for quite a while and is excellent said that people are still sceptical about mizuno woods! I'll give this one a go!
My 13 years old daughter was fitted for the titleist tsr2, her stats were almost identical to this review at mid speed! Carry the the same, a bit less roll asangle of attack 8.4 degrees up, 35.8 degrees decent angle.
Excellent detailed video. Love the results from
Various swing speeds! Thankyou
What a sale video for the Max and mizuno…. WOW!!!! Who needs Ping or TM. Get in my bag Mizuno 💙💙💙
Wasn't meant to be, I was just having a shocker of a swing day 🤣🤣
@@AskGolfNutWhat a driver…. Looks and performance, easily one of the best this year!
Guessing you already have your list of comparison vids planned, or filmed, but hoping you might do a ST-Z vs ST-Max. I know you mentioned a few likely results from shots in this vid had you been using a Z, but would be curious to see a same day head to head.
I do really enjoy and appreciate your reviews Jay. This ST230 Max has my attention.
It's got mine too.... 😊
May well be going straight in the bag 👍🏻
Thanks for the review, I will be definitely trying this beauty out 🙏🙏⭐️⭐️
These high toe balls not dropping off in spin is really impressive
Now that you be tested so many new drivers, is there anyone that truly stands out. I was leaning to the qi10
Awesome review! Thanks!
Jay I'd like to say thank you but I'm not sure I should... seems like your reviews of Mizuno clubs, irons or woods, always end up costing me money! Haha just kidding, awesome review as always!
Glad your enjoyed the content 👍🏻
I sure would like to see you compare the St-Z 230 with the St-230 Max with a 95MPH swing speed, hitting 5degrees up!@@AskGolfNut
Looks really good I currently game the Stx 230 Driver and love it, but this does look a lot more forgiving, I was used to the 45” shaft though, would you say it’s way more forgiving
Brilliant - you seem to be early to the party here. I'm sure many more will follow!
We all got the media samples at the same time. Its just how other reviewers dictate their priorities and release schedules 👍
@@AskGolfNut Well you did a fantastic job of reviewing the product, especially to a mid handicapper like myself. Subscribed and look forward to future content!
Thanks Jay
Jay, another Great video. Any chance you are going to have a comparison to the new Callaway AI Smoke?
Just needing the time to get the Smoke stuff done.... Hoping to get it done fairly soon 👍🏻
Great review, I am really tempted to go try this out when I can. I currently play a Mizuno GT180 from 2018, do you think that upgrading to this would be noticeably more forgiving on miss hits?
Also, does it use the same adapter as the GT180? It would be nice to keep my shafts (Fujikura SIX XLR8 X-flex and Fujikura Orochi 65g x-flex).
I think the old adapter may fit but the numbers on the hozel may not marry up to the actual loft on the head depending on what you have.
You may well find a huge difference between the GT180 and the Max, it's a very different, much more stable head from mishits. You may well not find too much in the way of added distance from the middle but may well find a big gain in off centre strikes 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut That's great to hear. I don't really need more distance with my speed, but more distance and less offline from non-center strike would be very nice. I hope they offer an option to buy the head only.
I was pretty surprised at how low the spin was, even in your 108 MPH test the spin was only 2200. I feel like most forgiving drivers have spin closer to 3000 than to 2000.
I have the Mizzy 230X. 10.5 degree. Love it. Is it the longest? No idea really but it works for me. Up from 95-98 MPH SS to 98-102. Ball speed up and carry is further. Went to a regular 50 gram shaft and launch improved higher and spin is solid. Gained 6-8 yards of carry. Getting fit is the key.
Great content as always Jay. I currently play the old classic St 190 and was wondering if the quick change sleeve is the same on the max as the190. I do love my shaft on the190 and would just buy the Max head and use my current shaft........ Thanks again !
It is mostly the same I believe, the writing may not match up depending on the loft of the head etc but it's not the end of the world. You can always swap the shaft adapter to bring it totally I in line with what it should look like 👍🏻
Is there a review on the mizuno platinum version..love watching jay-from the land down under Australia 🇦🇺
Unfortunately due to them not being available other than custom in the UK, I don't believe that any reviews of them were ever done 👍🏻
Pretty thorough video as always. Looking for something this year. My g425 gets me made fun of for the sound.
I have a 425 max also, I don't mind the sound at all. Might have a look at this driver
Great review! So far the 95 mph swing speed player, would you put them in the 12 degree head and then turn the loft down to keep spin up?
Any time you change the loft it'll change the spin profile, so for this I'd me, looking to use, the offset chamber loft sleeve to dial launch and trajectory. That's the beauty of the offset chamber loft sleeve 👍🏻👍🏻
I trust your recommendation. I am 72 with 70 mph club head speed. Is the Mizuno 230 max something I should consider given the low spin numbers?
Smash that like button 👇
For the lower swing speeds there is the higher lofted head option that will add much needed launch and also raise the spin profile 👍🏻
Thanks for the support 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut Appreciate your thoughts, thanks
@@AskGolfNut Are you referring to the platinum model or max in 12 degrees ?
@jbh199 Max I'm 12 degrees. The platinum version is a lighter head weight to promote faster swing speeds but is less forgiving than the Max. Honestly I haven't really seen much benefit in the way of huge gains in speed from the Platinum but the extra forgiveness helps with the Max especially from miss hit shots 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut Thanks
It's looking more and more like this is going to be my choice, but I'm in a quandary about clubs between driver and 5i, currently I've got 3wd, 5wd and 4hybrid, but I'm wondering if I'd need the same with the new Mizuno??
Would I be correct in assuming that lowering the loft to 7.5* (and subsequently opening the face in the process) would help counteract the "over-gearing" to the left on toe strikes? Cheers
It would do (although the over gearing in real terms is marginal, I'm just being over critical) but it would also open the face now and bias the dispersion more right side. Of course that can be a great thing for a golfer that wants, thats the great thing of having multiple lofts with an ossfet camber loft adapter, you can fit anyone for any shape or missed shot pattern by using the right loft set at the right setting 👍🏻
That works for me because my miss is high-toe and left the vast majority of the time. Cheers!
Great video. I have 90mph swing speed, would you say 10.5 ST Max would fit? I tested the STZ 230 with Aldilia Ascent Red 50 and it was quite straight.
Hi Matt would depend on a few other things within your delivery of the club but if I had to make an educated guess, I'd say that 10.5 or 12 would work subject to the flight requirements through loft sleeve change 👍🏻👍🏻
Jay, do you know the weights on the X and Z? I am not able to find it anywhere on the internet... PS, at the risk of being nerdy I would love a video on gear effects, you second shot was also (slightly) toe side, still the side spin made it apparently fade instead of draw like shot #1. Is the club path the reason for that, or the face angle? (or more likely a combination?)
Back weight on the Z and X is 35g 👍👍
This mizuno max vs new ping g430 10k comparison. Please and thanks!
I read stock shafts are 3/4 inch longer than last years models. You loved the forgiveness of the 230 x, worth the upgrade?
There is one thing to bear in mind and that Mizuno and other manufacturers have a small mix of measuring methods which means the same length club can come out 2 different measurements. Only a very small difference but just in case you hear different lengths being spoke about for the same club that's why 👍🏻
Any reviews on the ST Max Fairway and Hybrids? Or coming Soon?
Coming soon as still haven't received any media samples, no one has, Mizuno have been mighty slow this year getting review samples out.... 🤦👍🏻
can you do a review of the st max fairway wood as there is NOT one review on you tube.!!!!!!!
That's because Mizuno still haven't got any media samples out to anyone to test with...
It's mental 🤦🤦🤦
Cough. What's the second hand price on a 1 year old ST-X 230..... Asking for a friend
I play with the 220stx draw bias, is this still going to give forgiveness like the stx does with draw bias?
Sorry for another question. I struggle with too high spin like big time, which led me to the X and Z versions that work well for me. Is the Max a much higher spinning driver than the Z/X? Or no need to worry? Thx.
No not necessarily however if you struggle with high spin with a driver, it is very much advised to fix the swing mechanism that creates the issue rather than searching for equipment to fix. Swing changes can have a big effect on driver, where as Driver changes have relatively small changes in spin but much bigger changes in moi or forgiveness. 👍🏻
Hi Jay, one question, isn't a 45'' 3/4 shaft way too big for this driver?
Absolutely have to test within your Fitting. Basically its the same length now on the Max as all the other manufactures use as their standard. Mizuno say they can afford to eek out their normally slightly reduced shaft length due to the Forgiveness of the Head. In reality you'll have to test your strike pattern and also test with a shorter Z or X shaft to see how dispersion changes to make a decision on length 👍
This is all very well but what does the head cover look like? 😅
They make great replacement winter mits 😂😂😂
What’s the projected retail on it and how would you rate it against the G430 Max (not 10k)?
I think its in line with the current Z and X, some of the other manufacturers have gone super premium on price over their current price point. I believe this is set at the same current price 👍
So Mizuno have killed off any sales of the X and Zee (depending on where you are in the world) just as Ping have ruined sales of their Max with the 10k
I'm personally unaware of the retail sales data for the companies however unlike the Qi Max, the ST230 Max and the G430 MAX 10K operate at a different spin profile to that of its siblings within their range. Effectively a golfer would fit into any of them depending on their fitting requirements. It's more of a better and more comprehensive range rather than a replacement for the others in the range 👍🏻👍🏻
thanks Jay, my driver swing speed is 98-102 mph, what loft head would be best for me?
I have similar and it may depend on delivery. But I went up to 10.5 on the STX 230 to get optimal launch and spin. I also was fitted to a regular shaft. To my surprise it works. Aldila Ascent. My best on a monitor is 104 SS, 150 ball speed and 251 carry. Good luck!
I wanna love mizuno drivers but for me they always fall a bit short on ball speed.
That's possibly due to previous shaft lengths not being the same length as other manufacturers. The face tech is basically the same as they are all governed to not be too hot, but if the shaft isn't as long then often you don't swing it the same speed and may well lose out on ball speed. Mizuno have done this to promote better control of strike rather than pure speed. The Max is now up at the same length as basically all others 👍🏻
Which do you prefer this or the ping g430 max 10K?
It's a tough choice as the G430 10K has a slightly better launch window for me personally, but actually I find hitting target a touch easier with the ST230 Max. 🤷👍🏻
And the hybrid, wood?
STIIIILLLLL waiting on the media samples....... still. 😬
How much do you get asked to do a vid with a senior, sub 85 mph swing speed? Seems like every year, i try to find my Dad some distance in a new driver. He's in a Callaway Epic Star Max, but he found 10-12 yds with the Rogue ST Max, which surprised me to be honest. I'm inclined to get the Rogue ST for him, but it's now 2 generations behind now and I'd hate to leave tech on the table. It's hard to take all of the youtubers data to get a ballpark, but you all are 300 yards and plus 100 mph swing speed. Not apples to apples. Thoughts?
I literally got to the part in this vid where you posted data for different swing speeds! That's crazy! I still want to get data on all the new drivers this year. Even PXG looks interesting. So many clubs to weigh in on. Everybody wants to give him 12.5 but I'm thinking 10.5 for roll out would give more overall yardage that the launch monitors can't account for.
Latest tech is the G430 Max 10K or Qi10 Max. G430 Max too. I'm looking at the Ping 10K Max. If the spin is good, it's a no brainer, being one of the most forgiving drivers of all time.
@lkae4 forgiveness is one thing, but setup and head choice for distance is another thing. Mizuno, Cobra, Paradym (this year or last year), TM and Ping all look tempting. PXG you can only try at their location unfortunately. Gotta go to a couple places and not settle before you get all the data. Hopefully, it will be on a good launch monitor, too.
@@JayJay-jx3zg No offense but if your dad is over 55, you should not be chasing distance for him. He needs consistency and forgiveness.
@@JayJay-jx3zg Because a driver optimized for distance is just going to harder and harder to play every year.
At 71 with 72 club head speed I learned the following. The distance between the longest and shortest ball is less than 5 yards. Pro v1 left dash goes the farthest but a slower swing speed needs a ball that spins. I hit longer clubs into greens and need stopping power which the kirkland prior generation offers. Hope this helps slower swingers
Are these with the OEM shaft?
Hi Charles, sorry are you asking what shaft I tested it with? If so it was the Hzrdus Green same shaft I tested the Z and X drivers with at standard Mizuno length not the extra half inch or so of the Max Std 👍🏻
What shaft ?
Same shaft as I tested the Z and X.
Hzrdus Green Hulk Shaft 😊👍🏻
Just measured the (3) Max I received. Length is 45.5”…and SW in my Hzrdus 6.0/65g Green is D3.8 but total weight only 312g, because head weight with adapter is only 201g. I’m guessing at your 110mph speed…thus less ability to control as some of your shots indicated. Suggest adding some hi density lead tape on back of head..maybe 4-5”, bump head weight up to 204g, and grip at 45”. See what happens.
Choke it down 1/2” (**) ?
Same shaft, so just a bad day swinging for me, so glad I had the Max in my hands as I needed all the help I could get on test day 😁😁
They have reduced head weight with adapter to ~ 200g, and dropped many std shafts into thr 50g range. Club MOI is length squared is basically length squared x mass. For many slower swing speeds the high club MOI will cause speed reduction, distance carry distance
That was AI typing crazy. Higher club MOI can reduce slower senior guy’s didtance.
You appear to be standing far from the ball and those toes would seem to agree.