Update: I made a technical error. the N-64 can't do RGB without a mod but the S-Video is tops, that is what I use for my JVC D-Series and it looks SOO GOOD.
i think this video perfecting highlights why the Analogue 3D is going to be extremely successful. because who wants to go through the headache of figuring all the kits out, and the console + good controller + expansion pack + controller packs + everdrive + upscaler + whatever else greatly go over the 250 pricetage of the new console. as someone who just went through all of this, i would've much rather bought the analogue
The analog 3D doesn't come with an everdrive or a controller, and it's not going to be able to play ROMs right out of the box . All the stuff that I talked about is still about $100 cheaper than getting an analogue 3D. I look forward to actually seeing some footage of it but so far they haven't shown any footage of it actually running games, that's a big deal.
@@8bitjoystick Well, the original n64 doesn't come with an everdrive and cannot play roms either. Everdrive carts also always worked with analogue products so there's no reason to assume it won't for this one. As for your solution being $100 cheaper, you are just missing the one and only sell point of the analogue. Native 4k resolution. So if you want to make a valid comparison, you need to compare how much it would cost to get 4K out of the original n64 vs the analogue 64. I'll help you out on this as I already did the math. Using the most popular products on the market that are available right now, it would cost you over $1200 to get your OG n64 to output 4K upscaled image over HDMI. $350 for the retrotink 5x to get from 240p to 1080p. $750 for the retrotink 4k to get from 1080p to 2160p. Add in the cost of the console and there you have it, About $1200 for the exact same thing analog does for $250. Now as for the lack of footage from the Analogue, sure. We haven't seen anything from the analogue 3D. But anyone that knows a bit about FPGA knows that if you want to get an idea how the analogue will look, just find some footage of someone playing N64 core on a mister, upscaled to a 4K TV and that's pretty much what you'll get.
I would rather have the Real Sugar Coke Original Flavor of original hardware than high-fructose corn syrup. They haven't even show off any test footage yet.
I don’t have my original console I emulate all my n64 but if I had to choose it would be some sort of fpga due to streamlining I have 6 kids😅 I font have room for too many consoles and hardware. I am actually more interested in the controllers since my kids don’t like the n64 controllers we have.
For 99.9% of average people out there, this video is going to come across as a strong sales pitch FOR buying the Analogue 3D. I'm glad you have everything you need to play N64 on original hardware in the modern day, but nobody has the time, knowledge, or inclination to get all that equipment and figure out how to set it up. You need an upscaler/converter, scanline generator, extra cables, and an Everdrive which probably adds up to close to what the Analogue costs without even taking into consideration the extra hassle. This also isn't taking into account the need for a CRT which is not only incredibly heavy and bulky, but is difficult to find a place for in the home, and takes effort to obtain in the first place. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the Analogue 3D will be able to play ROMs off an SD card, offsetting the need for original cartridges or an Everdrive. The reasonable price point, convenience, and small size alone will be more than enough to sell this thing. As a fellow N64 enthusiast, I also have everything shown in your video, but I'm still planning on getting the Analogue 3D for the reasons I mentioned. Happy gaming!
I shouldn't have included the everdrive because the analogue 3D cannot play ROMs and there's no guarantee that it's going to get cracked. Also their controllers are extra. You can actually order the stuff that I got on Amazon and it's still going to come across as cheaper and you can actually hook it up to a CRT TV the way that God and Nintendo intended.
Yes, unfortunately you don't really know what that looks like because analogue hasn't shown off any test footage or samples. There are no review units in anyone's hands so people are taking pre-orders without knowing what the games they're actually going to look like. The Nintendo 64 actually had a rather low total render resolution and it took full advantage of the CRT TV to hide its low resolution warts. Hopefully the people that pre-ordered the analogue 3D will be happy with the result. But personally, I'd rather actually see it work. Also, I enjoy playing my games on a CRT TV which is how Nintendo intended them to be played.
I do not use a PVM. I use consumer CRTs. Also, you shouldn't factor in the cost of a controller and in everdrive because the analog 3D comes with neither and cannot play ROMs
@@8bitjoystick fair enough I see all of your CRTs. The expectation is that community support will eventually allow for ROM support but it’s just not there yet. For those who already have your adapter heavy solution it doesn’t make sense, but would be silly to go down that route if just getting back into n64.
@@FabuBrik well you really only need one adapter which is a simple small HDMI adapter. That's about the size of a cable to get it running on an HDMI TV. The hyperkin HDMI adapter is actually less than the cost of shipping for the analogue 3D
I’ll preorder it as a back up system. Just in case my N64 dies or can’t be repaired. Currently, the cost of a N64 system with all the mods is almost the same or sometimes even more than the analogue 3D will cost.
I don't know. They didn't even show off a demo reel or any review units before they're taking pre-orders. I mean I want to see it work. The Nintendo 64 seems to be built like a tank. I haven't heard of anyone having any problems, I mean it's not like they're known for red ringing or optical drive failures
@@8bitjoystick I completely understand your point of view. We don’t know and we haven’t seen any real hands on testing. The N64 is well built, I agree but boards and chips from any system have wear and tear limits. I’ll still pre-order it as I have a few of their products that have worked well as advertised.
@@gaeuman I know, right!? I ended up preordering the anlogue 3-D, as the calculated costs of a modded N64 will only get more expensive as time goes on and the number of original hardware units also will diminish and get more expensive to find.
your points are very good, but the real value behind this option is that the hardware will not be 30 years old anytime soon unlike my jungle green machine, will give you 4k for new tvs and again gives you a CRT style look built in without relying on TVs that are getting harder to find as they die and weigh more than a lot of modern furniture tends to be rated for. I won't be ditching my current machine, but I am definitely looking forward to a much more straightforward plug and play solution, especially since the SD slot will probably open up some fun options, or at least give me a new way to save games more conveniently and some nice features like translations.
All of my old CRTs are doing just fine as do my old consoles. It's sort of amusing to see that absolutely everybody is assuming that it'll be jailbroken, but then again if you really want to play ROMs there's a mister and emulation options. Personally I'm a big sappy nerd that likes playing cartridges. I usually do that on every other system except for the N64.
@8bitjoystick they are doing fine now, but it's disingenuous to pretend that tech that hasn't been sold for 20+ years will run forever, and the average user can't fix this stuff. When you factor in how many people collect multiples of the consoles still available and sit them on a shelf (and how many collectors keep multiple crts around), how many of these things have gone to dumps, etc, then it's important that we have another option for the future. Emulation is fine but I also prefer a console with real game cartridges. My point was simply that assuming this runs 1:1 against my real n64 then there is no reason to not embrace a new and valid option, especially for people who don't want to spend as much or likely quite a bit more getting original hardware plus all the extra bits needed to get up and running.
@@thehiddenheretic They have not shown it running games yet. I went to my local retro store and they had a ton of N64 consoles for $100 a pop, all working fine.
I also have my old N64 modded to RGB inclusive color Booster and it still looks fantastic on all of my CRTs. So I agree with everything you say. But: one day your tube will blow... your transistors will fall dry. This is why I ordered from ANALOGUE.
That's why I have four CRTs. They're going to last forever. I have basically a lifetime's worth of CRT TVs. Also, the N64 is not known for hardware failures. Even if there is a hardware failure, there are multiple repair places in my city. And again, the N64 is not the SEGA Game Gear, It's not known for capacitor problems and there's no disc drive to fail on it. Well I hope you're happy with what you get. I really hope that they're not just going to disappoint people because they didn't actually show any footage of it running games before opening the pre-orders. I hope they can deliver on their promises this time.
My mistake. I made a comment above, updated the description. UA-cam does not let you make revisions of videos once you posted them. I might try cutting it out
n64 and rgb? No not without a mod bro. agreed on everything else. I got a PAL n64 nodded for rgb and a M series PVM. plus ed64 plus to play 60hz roms. I dont need nothing else
The biggest reason why I have bought every analogue console so far is the modern conveniences they bring. Im not a crt purist so I prefer the look of the artificial scanlines and hd clean edges. I prefer the ability to have native wireless controller support. Plus being able to use save states is an added bonus for alot of games that didnt have easy checkpoints. And being able to throw a 64gb sd card with games or saves onto the console are very nice to have. And the big reason I use them is because the used retro game market is bananas right now. If you hop on ebay you can spend hundreds of dollars on used games without even trying and I will likely get another everdrive for this unit (though I did not need one for the mega sg). I appreciate your view points and I have definitely considered the modded upgrades to original hardware but for me personally they are not what Im looking for. I do wish that 8bitdo had made a colorful n64 controller like the brawler 64 the classic colors are the bomb. I genuinely believe analogue will redo their nes unit and possibly do a saturn/dreamcast unit or hopefully a ps1 unit down the road. I preordered my unit for this run and its still available several days later. Perhaps they have finally overcome their biggest issue which was limited supply.
Well I hope that they actually make enough for people that want it. And I hope they actually do another wave of production after the actual unit ship and people are able to do independent reviews. But I definitely look forward to UA-camrs actually getting their hands on these things and doing some independent tests. Especially if they're charging $250 plus $50 in shipping. So that's 300 bucks without seeing games run on the thing. I think it'd be interesting to see if it actually looks better than original hardware on an HDMI system or a retropie running emulation.
Well personally I want to see how it actually renders n64 games. Especially since the N64 had rather low render resolutions. I want to see what the games actually look like before you stretch something that has an internal render resolution of 320x240 up to 4K.
Hmm you can use your 2,4ghz Brawler64 on the Analogue as it has normal N64 Ports. You can use your everdrive too. Both things people will probably buy too. I am curious about the "performance mode" as I actually own like 2/3rd of your setup, I got the Brawler for example. I use a HDMI converter to play on a big screen and it looks good enough, but when playing Star Wars Rogue Squadron from start to finish I suffered SO HARD as the PAL Version is so darn slow in the last level it's nearly impossible to finish the darn game, I could only do it with cheating. I hope the Analogue can play games at their max frame rate, be it 30 or whatever they were designed for as I don't think any dev really designed their games to slow down, it was just a thing that happened. But you are totally right, they have not shown any footage, and I am as curious as anyone else how this will look.
Well, I think that analog has definitely cultivated a fear of missing out among their fans, and I still think it's crazy that they promised new and exciting ways to play N64 games, but actually had their pre-orders before actually showing any games running on their hardware. I hope they're able to deliver and what they promised without showing anything. Nintendo 64 emulation has been particularly tricky and it took fpga development a long time to get there. When the analog pocket came out, they promised a whole bunch, but it actually took about a year of software updates to get close to what they originally promised. I'm actually glad that I got my analog pocket a year later and I sort of thanked everyone for being a paid beta tester. I really hope that Nintendo 64 games that were internally rendered at a much lower resolution like 320x240 actually look decent when scaled up to 4K. I also think it's a little crazy that it's not compatible with their DAC at launch.
@@8bitjoystick The Analogue Pocket is currently available at least in one color. So is the Black Analogue 3D Preorder. Of course we can't see into the future, but if we're lucky, all of us who wait for the final product will be able to choose wether or not to buy one when the reviews are out, and not have to preorder. And yes, I've tried Upscaled 4k N64 as well. Doesn't bring much to the table. I usually prefer a middleground for older games some resolution that is better than the OG one, but doesnt need to be full scale 4k.
$323.99 for stock hardware, or $ 249.99 for analogue 3D witch will most likely run other systems without emulation after jailbreak is released. only down side is cheat codes, but you can get a everdrive for the analgue 3D for that and have all you bases covers. analogue 3D is the better option in the long run. Also build with newer components, so no re-capping or having to install a 3rd party hdmi mod.
I got my N64 for like $80, I don't collect boxes. The N64 does not need re-caps and I mostly play it on my CRT TVs. Besides I have a ton of other ways to play other systems like on my Retropie.
You're not considering that the Analogue 3D will have an SD card slot (within a week of hacking we'll be loading ROMs from it, no need for an Everdrive). The Analogue 3D will also be able to play PAL games along with NTSC/J since it has variable refresh rate. Analogue 3D also has save states. Everything you're showing off here adds up to much more than $250 as well. This is coming from someone who owned an RGB modded N64 and Trinitron monitor + an Everdrive. I'm stoked for the Analogue 3D.
Well, the controller is a moot point because the analog 3D does not come with a controller. Also, I can't really name of to many European exclusive N64 games. Also, it's a new version of the software so I wouldn't assume that it's going to instantly be cracked or that the company isn't going to run anti-crack updates. First thing I already have and everdrive so it makes more sense for me to stick with original Hardware, especially since CRTs are a priority for me. But your mileage may vary
@@8bitjoystick I think it's less about exclusives and more about other regions seeming to still have cheaper retro games. Obviously this will change over time with the hobby becoming more popular and the ease of region swapping being a given, but for now it will be cool to have the option to save a bunch of money on a copy of an expensive game and as a bonus maybe get some alternative art on the sticker. though I personally have most games in my collection already that I would care to own.
@8bitjoystick Yeah I understand that in your case the 3D isn't very appealing as you have a complete N64 setup already but for anyone without an N64 that wants one... it's hard to justify going your route vs just getting the 3D.
@@zlk718 their website says that it's not "compatible". Who knows if it's going to get updated in the future. There's also a lot of analogue pocket dock owners who have been waiting a really long time for DAC support.
About 4 years ago I bought a UltraHDMI modded N64 and it’s been pretty incredible. I do have Analogue products going back to their original NeoGeo CMVS Slim console and really enjoy their products so highly likely I’ll give their Analogue 3D a go. But for now my UltraHDMI N64 will totally suffice
I have the Analogue Pocket and I love it, I totally should have gotten a MegaSG while they were making them. I only wish they would re-issue their consoles and not have such a FOMO based strategy.
@@8bitjoystick Hopefully the Analgue 3D will get jailbroke like most of the other Analogue systems so you can play roms from the SD slot. That would be a big plus in my book. Great video by the way!
I've got an original N64, but I've ordered the Analogue 3D because hardware doesn't last forever and I don't want to jump through all the hoops you are doing just to be able to play my original carts without headaches.
But the N64 is a tank. I don't know of anyone who's had the hardware fail. Compared to the PlayStation and the Saturn, the Nintendo 64 is quite reliable
I have modded my N64 to put out analog RGB over Scart. I have new memory cards and the Memory expansion. I have got an Everdrive 64 and a Retrotink 5X. I Have two Brawler and two BT receivers to connect my Nintendo Online exclusive BT N64 Controllers. My System plays PAL natively and NTSC games in 60Hz with the Everdrive. It's a perfect system I built over years and it was kind of expensive and work intensive. So I guess for most people who want to play N64 again the Analogue 3D is a way better solution that does everything my system does for 250 bucks. I am gonna buy one just because it's a miracle it exists. Basically the coolest thing for N64 fans ever. And a solid backup / more portable / future proof all in one machine.
Well, I think the coolest is the EverDrive 64. I hope it delivers. It is gutsy asking people to pre-order when they have not shown it running games. Hopefully they will show it running games before the pre-orders go live.
I'm hoping someone jailbreaks the Analogue 3D and we can load ROMs from the SD card. I have an Analogue Pocket and Dock and a real NES with a 20" CRT. I did have to do some work to it (new caps, clean up rust, new 72-pin connector), got two 8bitdo BT adapters and I'm using official NSO NES controllers and they work great. I do have a RetroTink 2X Pro. The NES on CRT or LCD w/ RT-Pro just cannot match the Analogue Pocket. The CRT filters on the AP are damn good compared to my CRT (20" flatscreen Toshiba). And on a 55" LCD, in 4:3 ratio, its like playing on a 40" CRT TV. The only disadvantage is the lightgun support. I probably will get an Analogue 3D someday but there is also the Mister Pi too. As for the Retrofighters controller, I have the standard USB and NSO versions. The analog sticks are not that great. If you want to creep from a dead stop, the stick doesn't seem to register until say 20%, then you can scale down. The original style Nintendo N64, works perfectly. Its a matter of creeping by or falling off the ledge. I'm thinking the 8bitdo N64 controller will be a good one.
For me I went with a RetroUSB AVS for playing NES games on my HDTV but when it comes to playing original Hardware I got to go with the a CRT. I do love my analogue pocket and I actually use it to capture game footage for this channel all the time.
@@Mong00se22 but a MiSTer and 4p controller adapter would be even more expensive. Even if you are lucky and ordered a less expensive Taki udon de10 nano clone. ☮️
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 $100 - $150 and can play nearly all consoles and arcade games and PC's. Mister is superior. The cartridge slot on the 3d is tempting though.
I'm a little bit bothered that the Analogue N64 doesn't come with AV out. Like, I know it's meant to be a HD system. As time goes by, it would be nice to have an option to play N64 on CRT TVs as original consoles may become scarce. Also, having the original and a HD system for multiple consoles is beginning to add up and taking up too much space.
Well Analogue does make an optional DAC, a digital analog converter. So if you get that, you can actually hook their console systems up to an analog CRT TV with the exception of the analogue pocket. I just think that's a little weird because the N64 was made for CRT TVs and I think it's easier to get it to look decent on an HDMI modern TV than to go the other way around. In my living room I have my 4K TV which is an LCD made by TCL, and I also have a 19-in CRT made by Panasonic. So I can easily hook up a system to either one. I need to make more videos on the joys of CRT ownership and advocating for people to get one.
@@8bitjoystick There is no mention of DAC on the 3d page, they pulled all mentions of the DAC on the pocket and duo pages, and removed the DAC from the store. Don't count on DAC support, they are sweeping it under the rug.
We have a real console somewhere but with the cable that came with it that we swap between snes and n64 because the cable is compatible What i want is to play some nfl blitz and perfect dark online or maybe some nfl quarterback club. I liked that better than madden then. I think we still have a see through blue n64. The best color n64 and originally had a black one originally.
Nice. Personally I think you just can't beat original hardware, especially if you already have it and it means something to you. I wish I got an Pikachu N64 back in the day. This is the N64 HDMI adapter that I use. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MYX9JLM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 This is the optional scanline generator that I use www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JYW96Q2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I am sorry to hear that. You should try joining a Facebook group run by save the CRTs. I actually help run the Pacific Northwest one and we help people who want CRTs find them. www.savethecrts.org/
These Retron devices are cool but until original hardware truly begins to degrade in time, and they become increasingly rare, i personally like the original experience. It at least lets me appreciate the advancements we've come to expect in modern gaming.
You know Nintendo actually used quality parts in most of their game systems and a lot of them have stood the test of time and didn't have the problems of capacitor rot that hit some consoles from NEC and Sega. Besides some corrosion built up on the cartridge connectors. A lot of old Nintendo systems are still running to this day. Well these are clone fpga consoles. The "RetroN" was a line of emulation and clone systems made by hyperkin, but I think you were just talking about an FPGA clone system.
@@8bitjoystick oh yeah, for sure, build quality means a lot, I was thinking more like in 100 years in some cases, these alternative consoles can carry the torch to give us an approximate experience, I presume cartridges would have a longer lifespan.
@@synth505 well he doesn't have any moving parts and Nintendo actually used quality capacitors and they actually use cartridges at a 90° angle. So currently the Nintendo 64 is one of the most stable, reliable pieces of original hardware that you can buy, and should those capacitors actually fail, it's easily disassembled and replaced. So I like my chances of having original N64 Hardware around for years. Oh did you see that Analogue is charging $50 for shipping. That's ridiculous. So the cost is $300 and a controller and games.
@@8bitjoystick the games and controllers aren't an issue if you have the original of both. Analogue has always charged tax/shipping and it usually jumps the price $50. I knew that going into it. Not surprised. Hooking up via hdmi to a hub with all my other analogue consoles for convenience is enough justification for me. Im not hating on the original console at all as I have one. But for the use case where I want to play everything on my large flat screen for some couch coop, this fits the bill nicely.
@@synth505 well I have a HDMI flat screen TV and also a CRT in my living room so I can have my N64 hooked up to either of them easily. I really think it shines on a CRT
I generally agree with your points. I’m just a 64 fan and as my original console ages, I have thought about a backup or something. The 3D really makes it easy, so I plan to get one mostly for that reason. Modding OG consoles and getting everdrives likely exceeds the cost of the 3D as well. That said, nothing will replace the nostalgia of a 64 hooked to a crt.
I should have mentioned that the Analogue 3d does not play ROMs or OpenFPGA so many fans will get EverDrives 64s for it. But it is still cool and I am sure it will sell well.
I read that a firmware update of sorts after release will allow for it. Speculation but others have said that’s usually how it has gone with their prior systems. We will see!
I admittedly don’t know a lot about either of those. A quick search yielded me results of various parts and it seems not any cheaper? So simplicity for me. I like to tinker but some things, no thanks. $250 for a 3D seems reasonable to me since time is money.
Personal? I think RGB is a little overrated when you have such good S-video. Mean s video gives you about 97% of the quality with like almost none of the effort
No. You don't. Just the rat tail of console +cable + upscaler +cable . Also the og n64 doesn't provide you dozens of other consoles to play but the 3d will get open fpga for the other cores to play. ☮️
The Analogue 3d does not support OpenFPGA. The Analogue Duo does not support OpenFPGA. If you want to play your own FPGA cores you are better off getting an Analogue Pocket or a MiSTer. They still have not shown it running any games yet. Personally I want to see some detailed reviews before forking over over three hundred bucks, but that is just me.
@@8bitjoystick already have a pocket and a MiSTer. You mean the duo doesn't have open fpga yet. ;) super nt and mega sg also got a jailbreak which was of course not "official". Their track record is enough for me to know it will be excellent hw. Without competition. As always. ☮️
Personally I will never stop using the real thing. by that I mean original Nintendo and Sega hardware. Still is weird they opened pre-orders before showing any demo footage or review units.
@@8bitjoystick it's not that weird. The n64 core on MiSTer is even better than og hw thanks to the turbo core imo . So everyone knows how good it will be. Even 2 different cores from 2 different devs. But you know the standard for both is accurate og hw. Therefore I ordered it. I never have pre-ordered a game ever. ☮️
They sold me an Analogue Pocket and all the adapters and a dock. If they made a Mega SG again I would buy it. I like some Analogue products, sometimes I prefer original hardware. ua-cam.com/video/Y-GrbPphDHs/v-deo.html
You can’t and that’s the problem with the controller. Whoever designed these controllers that “fix” the N64 controller didn’t think far enough down the line to consider that.
Do you mean right-handed or left-handed? The N64 is back when they had that analog stick in the middle and I guess it was aggressively ambidextrous. Well you can also use original controllers.
Well, the hyperkin HDMI adapter is $30, the scanline generator is $35. The analogue 3D is $250 and doesn't come with an everdrive or a controller. So you would still have $185 left over.
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 But the N64 games are going to be internally rendered at their original resolutions and frame rates before being scaled up. It is still going to have the weakest link being the original code, resolution and frame rate. Boy I wish they showed off some demos of it.
@@8bitjoystick tell me you don't get upscaling without telling me. ;) you are getting stuff mixed up. An upscaler has nothing to do with the fps or the internal rendering. ☮️
It probably does. All the other various EverDrives work on the other Analogue systems. The Analogue Duo had issues with the turbo everdrive fitting but that was unlikely to happen here
So for me, I really like the all-in-one package feature of the analog products(That comes in a smaller package than the original to boot), and I'm hoping there's a little bit of improvement to the way games run on the original hardware, because a lot of the things the 64 did while very revolutionary at the time are very outdated considered by today's standards for running games. I'm probably still going to get it regardless because I like their stuff quite a bit. usually after about a week or so of the systems being released custom OS modifications come out to let you run ROMs on the game. And I feel personally that if I'm going to just grab a bunch of emulations for a game, I am probably just going to end up going the emulation route entirely. As for all the upgrades that's going to make your system run comparably good to an analog system for enthusiasts of retro game players (such as you or myself), I personally think the key demographic here is for people who want kind of a minimalist setup, And don't want to put in all the effort and time to setting up something that isn't just plug and play essentially.
Well what really gets me is so much of the n64's Aesthetics are tied to the lower resolution of the CRT TV and also the lower rendering resolution in some games so i really think it'll be interesting for people to do some independent tests of this unit and to actually see what the games actually look like. I should have mentioned in my video that it's a little crazy that they're opening pre-orders without showing test footage
Good perspective. I think I'm in "I want to want the Analogue 3D" territory. I have an RGB modded N64 and RetroTINK. I do think the 8bitDo controller looks a little bit nicer/comfortable than the RetroFighters ones. I think it's great the Analogue 3D will do 4K output, and save states might be nice. If you don't have an N64 already, I think the 3D is an easier choice. I didn't have any TG/PCE hardware, so I got the Duo and don't regret it. I'm in the same situation as you though, it's a lot harder to justify. I came here because I just watched your Analogue Pocket in 2024 video! Been considering one of those too. I still have my originals - GBA SP 101, GB Micro, and also Steam Deck OLED but the Pocket still seems like it could occupy its own space. A clear upgrade over the originals, while keeping their portability (Steam deck is nice and all, but big!). Regardless of whether I get one or not, it's really cool another option will exist soon!
I was at my favorite local retro game store yesterday and they literally had a pile of n64s for $100 a piece. It's a pretty reliable system that's easy to come by. I mean, do we really need 4K output if the render resolution of the N64 is crazy low, like we're talking like 320x240. I would feel a lot better if they had test footage of games running on it before they offered pre-orders. I know they have a pretty good track record but still. The older I get, the more I turn into one of those crt radical hipsters. But it makes such a difference for games of this era.
@@8bitjoystick The 4K output is useful for scaling issues a 4K panel might have, in my opinion. So that you don't have to rely on a 4K panel scaling a 1080p output (or lower) with a non-integer scale. I don't want the internal render resolution of the N64 games themselves to go up, I like the chunky OG low res look - but scaling that to a larger panel, a lot of screens make questionable decisions. Definitely not made for retro games in mind, or even games in general. The 4K output is only useful for getting around that, I think. CRT is a whole different animal, and I agree I think it's ideal. The system was made for it, for sure! I only have LCD's, unfortunately, so scaling becomes a little more important to me. All I'm really doing is trying to match a CRT as best I can though, hah. :D Does that $100 include an Expansion Pak? Those add a little bit - but you'd still be $100 less than the Analogue even if it didn't. Plus your shop probably includes a controller, which the Analogue doesn't have, and you have to pay for expensive shipping from Analogue too x_x I think you're right though, the Analogue only makes sense if you don't have a CRT and you also don't want to get a scaler for an LCD. If one did get a scaler though, you could use that for all the other retro systems out there too. So even then, original HW + scaler is still probably the better choice for most people.
I've got an n64 with the expansion pak, insurrection s cable, and a retro tink pro 2x hooked up to my 4k oled tv and it looks great i also have 4 retro brawler controllers, memory cards, blah blah blah all that stuff but I'm getting an analogue 3d just to be able to play my games in 4k easily on my 77 inch LG OLED C4 and it look it's absolute best. My 4 kids are getting my old n64 set up for themselves to share, play, and enjoy.
@8bitjoystick yeah I spent many days playing the n64 back in the day. CRT's were great back then, but being able to hook em to something that doesn't weigh close to a ton with a crisper picture is more ideal. I always hated moving those beasts around!
Why are you hating on a newer device? What this system provides is outstanding for only $250. NO HUGE MESS ON CABLES. 4k upscaler and hdmi mod would cost more then double to really kit out an old n64. I don’t think you know what kit out means. With old n64 you have to worry about leaking capacitors etc…. Let’s not even get into repairing CRT. 🤦♂️
Well currently I have four CRTs that work fine and don't need any kind of repairs. Again, the N64 was meant for CRTs and the games are actually meant to be displayed on a CRT. Analog has not shown any test footage and we don't know what games played on their systems are going to look like. I mean they're probably saying new exciting ways to play N64 games but not actually showing it off. That's a little concerning to me
I have something better in my original N64... BlueRetro dongle (I have 4, 2 in Smoke Black and 2 OG Gray color) as you can use any bluetooth controller, even the Switch N64 Controller AND it can simulate many Controller/Memory Pak to save games. It even has a site to handle all those saves or even add your own saves from your OG Controller/Memory Pak. I also have the same HDMI dongle... regardless, I have been waiting for this Analogue 3D since the day it was announced and I'll pre order mine. I have the Pocket and I play it way more than my GBC as it is SO nice. The 8bitdo 64 controller also looks amazing as it looks like the Ultimate Controller which is so nice.
I get Bluetooth, and I have a couple Bluetooth controllers but I really prefer the simplicity and speed of a dedicated 2.4g wireless dongle. But when it comes down to the N64 controller, it is just so iconic that it's okay to play with the modern controller, but it's just not the same without the weird funky n64 controller.
@@8bitjoystick that's why I use the Switch N64 Controller on my OG N64 and I agree that is super iconic. You can also mod an original N64 Controller with 8bitdo replacement board to have bluetooth controllers that way. Those 3rd parties ones are not my thing and I'll wait for the new 8bitdo N64 controller as it looks to be a better option between the 3rd party ones.
My dream was always to get an original N64 in some whacky color, maybe one of the Pokemon N64's with the Ultra HDMI mod or Digital HDMI mod. I always thought the Ultra and Digital were THE ELITE HDMI solutions. I've seen various analog to HDMI cable solutions and they are okay I suppose but I would watch UA-cam playback of the Ultra HDMI N64 and that solution versus the cable solutions I got the feeling that the massive price on the hardware mod might just be justified for it's fidelity and quality and it made the N64 look very nice. Almost every other option for HDMI on N64 that wasn't the Ultra HDMI or Digital HDMI mod looked very awful to me. I had an original N64 growing up and I didn't have too many games but I really loved it. My N64 got wonky on me at some point and I threw it away. The price point for the Analogue 3D is lower then I have seen for N64 consoles on eBay with the Ultra HDMI mod and or Digital HDMI mod... way lower.... I believe it's USB C powered which is great because when I'm glamping (camping in style ;) I can bring my portable projector and screen and power bank. The Super NT was great to bring camping with it's USB C power. My friends aren't as into the earlier generations of gaming systems as I am. I can usually convince them to play some SNES or Genesis or N64 and also Dreamcast but not with original hardware as none of them have CRTS. We will usually emulate something. All the Analogue systems are very convenient and portable. I have a CRT but it's like a little 10 inch TV/VCR and it's not ideal for 4 player Mario Kart 64. The Analogue 3D will be perfect for a 80 inch 4K OLED... or any size LED 4K/1080p TV. I have some of the crappy N64 racing wheels and crappy as they are, 4 player Mario Kart with 4 racing wheels on the 4K TV will be a blast :) There is the crowd of people that will say "Why don't you emulate it?" This question always makes me die inside...I enjoy a good emulator and for some games and some systems sure why not? I haven't kept up with n64 emulation for a long while but n64 emulation has always been garbage, hot steaming garbage, I can never get certain games to look and work as great as I want them too. Even on the Nintendo Switch I think the N64 emulation is just okay at best. I think they have put some effort into the N64 library on the Switch performing better and better and the games are running smoother than they originally did when they were first put out on the Switch. The N64 subscription for the Switch allows you to play online with friends which is neat :) I mentioned the Analogue 3D to a Facebook group and one of the guys said "Nope, I have a N64 but I'm waiting for the N64 mini." If this ever happens it could be kind of cool but I think it'll just run into emulation problems like the emulation problems that exist right now.... Nintendo 64 was KING for me growing up. If Analogue delivers a top tier product, I don't see why they wouldn't I am all for this. Mario Kart 64 is forever embedded in my memory. Cruis'N USA and the other Cruis'N games are my some of my all time favorite games. I try and play some of the racing games through emulation and they just don't feel responsive at all but to be fair I don't really remember how these games controlled back in the day. They don't control well in emulation that's for sure. I hope the Analogue 3D is the dream N64 FPGA machine that I've wanted ever since the Super NT came out :) and maybe it'll get a jailbreak and ____ well you know... ;)
Well for me, the technical limitations that were inherent in early 3D looks so particularly good on a CRT TV that every time that I have it hooked up to an LCD TV. It makes me wish that I actually had it hooked up to a CRT TV because the inherent effects of the TV tube just go hand in hand with the early 3D effects. I mean it's like macaroni and cheese. You could have macaroni with chocolate sauce but it's just not the same without the cheese. But Analogue has their fans, and they are really good at what they are. For the people who want to play N64 on a HDMI flat screen TV then this is a good option. I personally like the funkiness of the original hardware.
I mean if the analogue option was say $150 I would be all over it, but I have a retro tink already sans a Everdrive so is this really for me? eh maybe. Could just wait for the hacked firmware for the analogue to come out and bam got a everdrive built in but yeah I can only see this being for folk who have a bunch of carts (which I have a dozen) and as a result I'll probably wait and see if the price drops and when the console gets hacked before I pull the trigger.
Thank you. I'm trying to be more funny. I'm not as funny as a Retro Bird who is my hero. I'm trying to write how I want to deliver a line when I write it. I don't really think my videos are like laugh out loud funny, but I'm happy if I can get a mild shuffle out of my viewers. I'm also not above putting in dad joke puns
Nothing beats original hardware, in terms of being purely nostalgic, in my opinion. I suppose there's benefits of having newer hardware that plays the old games, but I more than likely won't buy anything like that. I'm somewhat of a purist. Nice video, friend. On a side note, I always appreciate how happy you are, man. Good vibes.
Well granted an fpga system doesn't use emulation but they haven't shown it running any games yet. I would feel more comfortable if they would have actually shown it running or had review units in the hands of people before they took pre-orders. I mean the N64 is a pretty tricky console to get right. They've shown what the console looks like, but they haven't shown what it performs like. I want to see the folks like digital foundry do a video on it
It’s still technically emulation. It’s just not software based emulation like you’d get with a PC program, but it’s emulation running on an actual dedicated hardware solution with software or BIOS that tells the specific silicon what to do. As this is NOT the original hardware running the games, this is still an offshoot of emulation.
@@Darknight0681 It's not emulation using software. It's actually Hardware recreation using fpga circuitry. Emulation is trying to get close enough using software, fpga actually recreates one-to-one logic circuits. I really hope all these people that pre-ordered their systems aren't going to be disappointed because they pre-ordered before seeing how it renders N64 games. Seriously, there's no test footage of it actually running.
@@8bitjoystick Thanks for the link, it's quite affordable! I might get one just to play with it ;) But to me, it still would be nice to have an actual number by measuring the lag when this is used in combo with that Hyperkin HDMI adapter. To each his or her own opinion whether or not something like this matters.
Yep. Personally, I think it's awesome that the Everdrives for the Sega Genesis can recreate a Sega Master System with FM Synth using the FPGA chips for simulating the various kinds of Genesis cartridges.
I've been seeing everyone posting about that thing. On Facebook but honestly. My reaction is meh not impressed. But then I have a Phillips television set with s video so I'm sitting pretty.
Well. It is HDMI only and you need to buy their DAC to get it working on a CRT TV. This is a weird one when real N64 systems are plentiful and capable. Plus it has such a unique flavor to it.
I'm highly skeptical. I live in a condo in the city and I have four. You absolutely do have room for a CRT. CRTs were what people use for televisions for decades. There are various sizes and personally I think Nintendo 64 looks great on 14-in sets.
The thing about analogue, they kinda suck. However, I can buy as many of their consoles as they let me, wait two years then resell them new unopened box for 3x what I paid for them. 🤔
This one i will pass on. Both my n64's are modded , one with the original woozle mod back in 2017 and the the digital64 mod. I have my everdrive 64 so I'm good. Both are collecting dust.
Well. If I was not making this UA-cam channel I would have a lot more time to play N64 games. Hahahaha. I mean I am glad they are making new consoles but they have not shown off anything to get me to get it over original N64 hardware, especially since I am down with CRT TVs
@@Dinguswithabingus Let's see my N-64 was $100, the HDMI adapters were $60. You should not include the EverDrive and the controller since the Analogue 3d can't play ROMs and does not come with a controller. So far I am about a hundred bucks cheaper once you figure in the cost of Analogue shipping. I like the Analogue Pocket. I just would rather stick with OG hardware for N64.
@@8bitjoystick it will CERTAINLY be able to play roms lol, they said the same thing about the Duo. Putting an SD card slot on it for “firmware updates” tells you everything you need to know.
By the way, you still needed to get a controller in an everdrive or games for the analogue 3D. It doesn't come with a controller. It's also way cheaper to upgrade an existing console, but that's just me. In this case. I really like original Hardware cuz I think that the N64 was very unique and I also want the ability to play on a classic CRT TV.
Update: I made a technical error. the N-64 can't do RGB without a mod but the S-Video is tops, that is what I use for my JVC D-Series and it looks SOO GOOD.
Another correction: While you can swap a tray to play US and Japanese games, without modding it, you can't play pal games
I think the French one could RGB?
i think this video perfecting highlights why the Analogue 3D is going to be extremely successful. because who wants to go through the headache of figuring all the kits out, and the console + good controller + expansion pack + controller packs + everdrive + upscaler + whatever else greatly go over the 250 pricetage of the new console. as someone who just went through all of this, i would've much rather bought the analogue
The analog 3D doesn't come with an everdrive or a controller, and it's not going to be able to play ROMs right out of the box . All the stuff that I talked about is still about $100 cheaper than getting an analogue 3D. I look forward to actually seeing some footage of it but so far they haven't shown any footage of it actually running games, that's a big deal.
@@8bitjoystick Well, the original n64 doesn't come with an everdrive and cannot play roms either. Everdrive carts also always worked with analogue products so there's no reason to assume it won't for this one. As for your solution being $100 cheaper, you are just missing the one and only sell point of the analogue. Native 4k resolution. So if you want to make a valid comparison, you need to compare how much it would cost to get 4K out of the original n64 vs the analogue 64. I'll help you out on this as I already did the math. Using the most popular products on the market that are available right now, it would cost you over $1200 to get your OG n64 to output 4K upscaled image over HDMI. $350 for the retrotink 5x to get from 240p to 1080p. $750 for the retrotink 4k to get from 1080p to 2160p. Add in the cost of the console and there you have it, About $1200 for the exact same thing analog does for $250. Now as for the lack of footage from the Analogue, sure. We haven't seen anything from the analogue 3D. But anyone that knows a bit about FPGA knows that if you want to get an idea how the analogue will look, just find some footage of someone playing N64 core on a mister, upscaled to a 4K TV and that's pretty much what you'll get.
What a mess. I'll take the Analogue version, thanks.
I would rather have the Real Sugar Coke Original Flavor of original hardware than high-fructose corn syrup. They haven't even show off any test footage yet.
A dedicated gamer goes for the extra milage to get the most out of their hardware.
@@JulioCastrejon04 Whatever works is valid as long as people have fun. I am not hating on it, just not moving from what I already have.
@@8bitjoystickit will work out for someone like me that doesnt have a n64 and always wanted one
I don’t have my original console I emulate all my n64 but if I had to choose it would be some sort of fpga due to streamlining I have 6 kids😅 I font have room for too many consoles and hardware. I am actually more interested in the controllers since my kids don’t like the n64 controllers we have.
Mate whos got space for all those CRTs
I do. I own a one-bedroom condo and I have two CRT TVs and my flat screen TV in my living room, and two more CRT TVs in my bedroom.
I do not have a cat so I have to preorder Analogue 3D
Well there are shelters with kitties and Retro game stores with n64s.
For 99.9% of average people out there, this video is going to come across as a strong sales pitch FOR buying the Analogue 3D. I'm glad you have everything you need to play N64 on original hardware in the modern day, but nobody has the time, knowledge, or inclination to get all that equipment and figure out how to set it up. You need an upscaler/converter, scanline generator, extra cables, and an Everdrive which probably adds up to close to what the Analogue costs without even taking into consideration the extra hassle. This also isn't taking into account the need for a CRT which is not only incredibly heavy and bulky, but is difficult to find a place for in the home, and takes effort to obtain in the first place. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think the Analogue 3D will be able to play ROMs off an SD card, offsetting the need for original cartridges or an Everdrive. The reasonable price point, convenience, and small size alone will be more than enough to sell this thing. As a fellow N64 enthusiast, I also have everything shown in your video, but I'm still planning on getting the Analogue 3D for the reasons I mentioned. Happy gaming!
Well said
I shouldn't have included the everdrive because the analogue 3D cannot play ROMs and there's no guarantee that it's going to get cracked. Also their controllers are extra. You can actually order the stuff that I got on Amazon and it's still going to come across as cheaper and you can actually hook it up to a CRT TV the way that God and Nintendo intended.
The analogue 3d can play at 4K with vrr support
Yes, unfortunately you don't really know what that looks like because analogue hasn't shown off any test footage or samples. There are no review units in anyone's hands so people are taking pre-orders without knowing what the games they're actually going to look like.
The Nintendo 64 actually had a rather low total render resolution and it took full advantage of the CRT TV to hide its low resolution warts.
Hopefully the people that pre-ordered the analogue 3D will be happy with the result. But personally, I'd rather actually see it work. Also, I enjoy playing my games on a CRT TV which is how Nintendo intended them to be played.
@@8bitjoystickThis is what I’m screaming. I can’t find footage anywhere so I can’t preorder without a before and after comparison. I’ll wait.
by the time you buy an N64, an expansion pak, an everdrive, S-video cable and a quality pvm, you're well over the asking price of the analogue 3D.
I do not use a PVM. I use consumer CRTs. Also, you shouldn't factor in the cost of a controller and in everdrive because the analog 3D comes with neither and cannot play ROMs
@@8bitjoystick fair enough I see all of your CRTs.
The expectation is that community support will eventually allow for ROM support but it’s just not there yet. For those who already have your adapter heavy solution it doesn’t make sense, but would be silly to go down that route if just getting back into n64.
@@FabuBrik well you really only need one adapter which is a simple small HDMI adapter. That's about the size of a cable to get it running on an HDMI TV. The hyperkin HDMI adapter is actually less than the cost of shipping for the analogue 3D
I’ll preorder it as a back up system. Just in case my N64 dies or can’t be repaired. Currently, the cost of a N64 system with all the mods is almost the same or sometimes even more than the analogue 3D will cost.
I don't know. They didn't even show off a demo reel or any review units before they're taking pre-orders. I mean I want to see it work. The Nintendo 64 seems to be built like a tank. I haven't heard of anyone having any problems, I mean it's not like they're known for red ringing or optical drive failures
Nice condition N64 + Expansion Pack + Memory Cards + BT Receivers + RGB Mod + PAL / NTSC Switch + Retrotink = Much more than 250 Dollars
@@8bitjoystick I completely understand your point of view. We don’t know and we haven’t seen any real hands on testing. The N64 is well built, I agree but boards and chips from any system have wear and tear limits. I’ll still pre-order it as I have a few of their products that have worked well as advertised.
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@@gaeuman I know, right!? I ended up preordering the anlogue 3-D, as the calculated costs of a modded N64 will only get more expensive as time goes on and the number of original hardware units also will diminish and get more expensive to find.
your points are very good, but the real value behind this option is that the hardware will not be 30 years old anytime soon unlike my jungle green machine, will give you 4k for new tvs and again gives you a CRT style look built in without relying on TVs that are getting harder to find as they die and weigh more than a lot of modern furniture tends to be rated for. I won't be ditching my current machine, but I am definitely looking forward to a much more straightforward plug and play solution, especially since the SD slot will probably open up some fun options, or at least give me a new way to save games more conveniently and some nice features like translations.
All of my old CRTs are doing just fine as do my old consoles. It's sort of amusing to see that absolutely everybody is assuming that it'll be jailbroken, but then again if you really want to play ROMs there's a mister and emulation options. Personally I'm a big sappy nerd that likes playing cartridges. I usually do that on every other system except for the N64.
@8bitjoystick they are doing fine now, but it's disingenuous to pretend that tech that hasn't been sold for 20+ years will run forever, and the average user can't fix this stuff. When you factor in how many people collect multiples of the consoles still available and sit them on a shelf (and how many collectors keep multiple crts around), how many of these things have gone to dumps, etc, then it's important that we have another option for the future. Emulation is fine but I also prefer a console with real game cartridges.
My point was simply that assuming this runs 1:1 against my real n64 then there is no reason to not embrace a new and valid option, especially for people who don't want to spend as much or likely quite a bit more getting original hardware plus all the extra bits needed to get up and running.
@@thehiddenheretic They have not shown it running games yet. I went to my local retro store and they had a ton of N64 consoles for $100 a pop, all working fine.
I also have my old N64 modded to RGB inclusive color Booster and it still looks fantastic on all of my CRTs. So I agree with everything you say. But: one day your tube will blow... your transistors will fall dry.
This is why I ordered from ANALOGUE.
That's why I have four CRTs. They're going to last forever. I have basically a lifetime's worth of CRT TVs. Also, the N64 is not known for hardware failures. Even if there is a hardware failure, there are multiple repair places in my city. And again, the N64 is not the SEGA Game Gear, It's not known for capacitor problems and there's no disc drive to fail on it.
Well I hope you're happy with what you get. I really hope that they're not just going to disappoint people because they didn't actually show any footage of it running games before opening the pre-orders. I hope they can deliver on their promises this time.
The early N64s have the hardware for RGB but still need to be modded in order to output RGB through the multiout connector.
My mistake. I made a comment above, updated the description. UA-cam does not let you make revisions of videos once you posted them. I might try cutting it out
@@8bitjoystick no worries. S video does look good and very comparable to the RGB output.
Yeah, I can't easily cut that bit out post upload. DOH!
n64 and rgb? No not without a mod bro. agreed on everything else. I got a PAL n64 nodded for rgb and a M series PVM. plus ed64 plus to play 60hz roms. I dont need nothing else
The biggest reason why I have bought every analogue console so far is the modern conveniences they bring. Im not a crt purist so I prefer the look of the artificial scanlines and hd clean edges. I prefer the ability to have native wireless controller support. Plus being able to use save states is an added bonus for alot of games that didnt have easy checkpoints. And being able to throw a 64gb sd card with games or saves onto the console are very nice to have. And the big reason I use them is because the used retro game market is bananas right now. If you hop on ebay you can spend hundreds of dollars on used games without even trying and I will likely get another everdrive for this unit (though I did not need one for the mega sg). I appreciate your view points and I have definitely considered the modded upgrades to original hardware but for me personally they are not what Im looking for. I do wish that 8bitdo had made a colorful n64 controller like the brawler 64 the classic colors are the bomb. I genuinely believe analogue will redo their nes unit and possibly do a saturn/dreamcast unit or hopefully a ps1 unit down the road. I preordered my unit for this run and its still available several days later. Perhaps they have finally overcome their biggest issue which was limited supply.
Well I hope that they actually make enough for people that want it. And I hope they actually do another wave of production after the actual unit ship and people are able to do independent reviews.
But I definitely look forward to UA-camrs actually getting their hands on these things and doing some independent tests. Especially if they're charging $250 plus $50 in shipping. So that's 300 bucks without seeing games run on the thing. I think it'd be interesting to see if it actually looks better than original hardware on an HDMI system or a retropie running emulation.
Almost bought one today but decided to wait and see the reviews instead of blindly buying a product. Nice vid!
Well personally I want to see how it actually renders n64 games. Especially since the N64 had rather low render resolutions. I want to see what the games actually look like before you stretch something that has an internal render resolution of 320x240 up to 4K.
Hmm you can use your 2,4ghz Brawler64 on the Analogue as it has normal N64 Ports. You can use your everdrive too. Both things people will probably buy too.
I am curious about the "performance mode" as I actually own like 2/3rd of your setup, I got the Brawler for example. I use a HDMI converter to play on a big screen and it looks good enough, but when playing Star Wars Rogue Squadron from start to finish I suffered SO HARD as the PAL Version is so darn slow in the last level it's nearly impossible to finish the darn game, I could only do it with cheating. I hope the Analogue can play games at their max frame rate, be it 30 or whatever they were designed for as I don't think any dev really designed their games to slow down, it was just a thing that happened.
But you are totally right, they have not shown any footage, and I am as curious as anyone else how this will look.
Well, I think that analog has definitely cultivated a fear of missing out among their fans, and I still think it's crazy that they promised new and exciting ways to play N64 games, but actually had their pre-orders before actually showing any games running on their hardware. I hope they're able to deliver and what they promised without showing anything.
Nintendo 64 emulation has been particularly tricky and it took fpga development a long time to get there.
When the analog pocket came out, they promised a whole bunch, but it actually took about a year of software updates to get close to what they originally promised. I'm actually glad that I got my analog pocket a year later and I sort of thanked everyone for being a paid beta tester.
I really hope that Nintendo 64 games that were internally rendered at a much lower resolution like 320x240 actually look decent when scaled up to 4K.
I also think it's a little crazy that it's not compatible with their DAC at launch.
@@8bitjoystick The Analogue Pocket is currently available at least in one color. So is the Black Analogue 3D Preorder.
Of course we can't see into the future, but if we're lucky, all of us who wait for the final product will be able to choose wether or not to buy one when the reviews are out, and not have to preorder.
And yes, I've tried Upscaled 4k N64 as well. Doesn't bring much to the table. I usually prefer a middleground for older games some resolution that is better than the OG one, but doesnt need to be full scale 4k.
$323.99 for stock hardware, or $ 249.99 for analogue 3D witch will most likely run other systems without emulation after jailbreak is released. only down side is cheat codes, but you can get a everdrive for the analgue 3D for that and have all you bases covers. analogue 3D is the better option in the long run. Also build with newer components, so no re-capping or having to install a 3rd party hdmi mod.
I got my N64 for like $80, I don't collect boxes. The N64 does not need re-caps and I mostly play it on my CRT TVs. Besides I have a ton of other ways to play other systems like on my Retropie.
@@8bitjoystick the n64 has electrolytic caps so yes it does eventually
You're not considering that the Analogue 3D will have an SD card slot (within a week of hacking we'll be loading ROMs from it, no need for an Everdrive). The Analogue 3D will also be able to play PAL games along with NTSC/J since it has variable refresh rate. Analogue 3D also has save states. Everything you're showing off here adds up to much more than $250 as well. This is coming from someone who owned an RGB modded N64 and Trinitron monitor + an Everdrive. I'm stoked for the Analogue 3D.
Well, the controller is a moot point because the analog 3D does not come with a controller. Also, I can't really name of to many European exclusive N64 games.
Also, it's a new version of the software so I wouldn't assume that it's going to instantly be cracked or that the company isn't going to run anti-crack updates.
First thing I already have and everdrive so it makes more sense for me to stick with original Hardware, especially since CRTs are a priority for me.
But your mileage may vary
@@8bitjoystick I think it's less about exclusives and more about other regions seeming to still have cheaper retro games. Obviously this will change over time with the hobby becoming more popular and the ease of region swapping being a given, but for now it will be cool to have the option to save a bunch of money on a copy of an expensive game and as a bonus maybe get some alternative art on the sticker. though I personally have most games in my collection already that I would care to own.
@8bitjoystick Yeah I understand that in your case the 3D isn't very appealing as you have a complete N64 setup already but for anyone without an N64 that wants one... it's hard to justify going your route vs just getting the 3D.
The Analogue D.A.C support for this will take AGES. I'm still waiting for them to support the Pocket Dock on that.
No date on WHEN the DAC is getting Analogue Pocket Dock support... just "The Future" www.analogue.co/support/resource/dac-faq
They have stated dac support is not planned for the analogue 3d.
@@zlk718 their website says that it's not "compatible". Who knows if it's going to get updated in the future. There's also a lot of analogue pocket dock owners who have been waiting a really long time for DAC support.
About 4 years ago I bought a UltraHDMI modded N64 and it’s been pretty incredible. I do have Analogue products going back to their original NeoGeo CMVS Slim console and really enjoy their products so highly likely I’ll give their Analogue 3D a go. But for now my UltraHDMI N64 will totally suffice
I have the Analogue Pocket and I love it, I totally should have gotten a MegaSG while they were making them. I only wish they would re-issue their consoles and not have such a FOMO based strategy.
everdrive 64 goes for 150€-200€ in my region. Adding the costs for the original 64 and the dongle I'M already above what I will pay for analogue
Well the Analogue 3d does not support OpenFPGA and can't run ROMs, so many folks will end up buying an EverDrive 64 for it
@@8bitjoystick Hopefully the Analgue 3D will get jailbroke like most of the other Analogue systems so you can play roms from the SD slot. That would be a big plus in my book. Great video by the way!
@@8bitjoystick For that case absolutely. But as the other ones got openfpga later anyway I'll wait for that
All of their other consoles work with their appropriate EverDrives, I assume this one will as well.
The Analogue Pocket is the only system that has OpenFPGA officially, the Duo is jailbroke but not officially supported.
I've got an original N64, but I've ordered the Analogue 3D because hardware doesn't last forever and I don't want to jump through all the hoops you are doing just to be able to play my original carts without headaches.
But the N64 is a tank. I don't know of anyone who's had the hardware fail. Compared to the PlayStation and the Saturn, the Nintendo 64 is quite reliable
I have modded my N64 to put out analog RGB over Scart. I have new memory cards and the Memory expansion. I have got an Everdrive 64 and a Retrotink 5X. I Have two Brawler and two BT receivers to connect my Nintendo Online exclusive BT N64 Controllers. My System plays PAL natively and NTSC games in 60Hz with the Everdrive. It's a perfect system I built over years and it was kind of expensive and work intensive.
So I guess for most people who want to play N64 again the Analogue 3D is a way better solution that does everything my system does for 250 bucks.
I am gonna buy one just because it's a miracle it exists. Basically the coolest thing for N64 fans ever. And a solid backup / more portable / future proof all in one machine.
Well, I think the coolest is the EverDrive 64. I hope it delivers. It is gutsy asking people to pre-order when they have not shown it running games. Hopefully they will show it running games before the pre-orders go live.
@@8bitjoystick True words.
I'm hoping someone jailbreaks the Analogue 3D and we can load ROMs from the SD card. I have an Analogue Pocket and Dock and a real NES with a 20" CRT. I did have to do some work to it (new caps, clean up rust, new 72-pin connector), got two 8bitdo BT adapters and I'm using official NSO NES controllers and they work great. I do have a RetroTink 2X Pro. The NES on CRT or LCD w/ RT-Pro just cannot match the Analogue Pocket. The CRT filters on the AP are damn good compared to my CRT (20" flatscreen Toshiba). And on a 55" LCD, in 4:3 ratio, its like playing on a 40" CRT TV. The only disadvantage is the lightgun support. I probably will get an Analogue 3D someday but there is also the Mister Pi too. As for the Retrofighters controller, I have the standard USB and NSO versions. The analog sticks are not that great. If you want to creep from a dead stop, the stick doesn't seem to register until say 20%, then you can scale down. The original style Nintendo N64, works perfectly. Its a matter of creeping by or falling off the ledge. I'm thinking the 8bitdo N64 controller will be a good one.
For me I went with a RetroUSB AVS for playing NES games on my HDTV but when it comes to playing original Hardware I got to go with the a CRT.
I do love my analogue pocket and I actually use it to capture game footage for this channel all the time.
Or you could just get a Mister FPGA and play on a CRT and HDMI with the full list of games in any region.
But then you won't have cartridges. I like having some original hardware in the mix.
@@Mong00se22 but a MiSTer and 4p controller adapter would be even more expensive. Even if you are lucky and ordered a less expensive Taki udon de10 nano clone. ☮️
@@8bitjoystick I use original controller. Which is really important for the games as they are made with this special analog stick in mind. ☮️
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 $100 - $150 and can play nearly all consoles and arcade games and PC's. Mister is superior. The cartridge slot on the 3d is tempting though.
Wouldn't the overdrive work on the new system
I fully expect the everdrive will work.
I'm a little bit bothered that the Analogue N64 doesn't come with AV out. Like, I know it's meant to be a HD system. As time goes by, it would be nice to have an option to play N64 on CRT TVs as original consoles may become scarce. Also, having the original and a HD system for multiple consoles is beginning to add up and taking up too much space.
Well Analogue does make an optional DAC, a digital analog converter. So if you get that, you can actually hook their console systems up to an analog CRT TV with the exception of the analogue pocket. I just think that's a little weird because the N64 was made for CRT TVs and I think it's easier to get it to look decent on an HDMI modern TV than to go the other way around.
In my living room I have my 4K TV which is an LCD made by TCL, and I also have a 19-in CRT made by Panasonic. So I can easily hook up a system to either one.
I need to make more videos on the joys of CRT ownership and advocating for people to get one.
@@8bitjoystick There is no mention of DAC on the 3d page, they pulled all mentions of the DAC on the pocket and duo pages, and removed the DAC from the store. Don't count on DAC support, they are sweeping it under the rug.
We have a real console somewhere but with the cable that came with it that we swap between snes and n64 because the cable is compatible
What i want is to play some nfl blitz and perfect dark online or maybe some nfl quarterback club. I liked that better than madden then.
I think we still have a see through blue n64. The best color n64 and originally had a black one originally.
Nice. Personally I think you just can't beat original hardware, especially if you already have it and it means something to you. I wish I got an Pikachu N64 back in the day.
This is the N64 HDMI adapter that I use.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MYX9JLM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is the optional scanline generator that I use
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JYW96Q2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
My brother took my CRT when i moved to college. I came back and it's all yellowed because he kept it in his smoke room :(
I am sorry to hear that. You should try joining a Facebook group run by save the CRTs. I actually help run the Pacific Northwest one and we help people who want CRTs find them.
www.savethecrts.org/
These Retron devices are cool but until original hardware truly begins to degrade in time, and they become increasingly rare, i personally like the original experience. It at least lets me appreciate the advancements we've come to expect in modern gaming.
You know Nintendo actually used quality parts in most of their game systems and a lot of them have stood the test of time and didn't have the problems of capacitor rot that hit some consoles from NEC and Sega. Besides some corrosion built up on the cartridge connectors. A lot of old Nintendo systems are still running to this day.
Well these are clone fpga consoles. The "RetroN" was a line of emulation and clone systems made by hyperkin, but I think you were just talking about an FPGA clone system.
@@8bitjoystick oh yeah, for sure, build quality means a lot, I was thinking more like in 100 years in some cases, these alternative consoles can carry the torch to give us an approximate experience, I presume cartridges would have a longer lifespan.
Just a matter of time before the aging internal components give up the ghost. Good luck.
@@synth505 well he doesn't have any moving parts and Nintendo actually used quality capacitors and they actually use cartridges at a 90° angle. So currently the Nintendo 64 is one of the most stable, reliable pieces of original hardware that you can buy, and should those capacitors actually fail, it's easily disassembled and replaced. So I like my chances of having original N64 Hardware around for years.
Oh did you see that Analogue is charging $50 for shipping. That's ridiculous.
So the cost is $300 and a controller and games.
@@8bitjoystick the games and controllers aren't an issue if you have the original of both. Analogue has always charged tax/shipping and it usually jumps the price $50. I knew that going into it. Not surprised. Hooking up via hdmi to a hub with all my other analogue consoles for convenience is enough justification for me. Im not hating on the original console at all as I have one. But for the use case where I want to play everything on my large flat screen for some couch coop, this fits the bill nicely.
@@synth505 well I have a HDMI flat screen TV and also a CRT in my living room so I can have my N64 hooked up to either of them easily. I really think it shines on a CRT
I generally agree with your points. I’m just a 64 fan and as my original console ages, I have thought about a backup or something. The 3D really makes it easy, so I plan to get one mostly for that reason. Modding OG consoles and getting everdrives likely exceeds the cost of the 3D as well. That said, nothing will replace the nostalgia of a 64 hooked to a crt.
I should have mentioned that the Analogue 3d does not play ROMs or OpenFPGA so many fans will get EverDrives 64s for it. But it is still cool and I am sure it will sell well.
I read that a firmware update of sorts after release will allow for it. Speculation but others have said that’s usually how it has gone with their prior systems. We will see!
But then why just not get a MISTer or use a RetroPie?
I admittedly don’t know a lot about either of those. A quick search yielded me results of various parts and it seems not any cheaper? So simplicity for me. I like to tinker but some things, no thanks. $250 for a 3D seems reasonable to me since time is money.
Nah, good mods are worth more than the damn 3d
Personal? I think RGB is a little overrated when you have such good S-video. Mean s video gives you about 97% of the quality with like almost none of the effort
No. You don't. Just the rat tail of console +cable + upscaler +cable . Also the og n64 doesn't provide you dozens of other consoles to play but the 3d will get open fpga for the other cores to play. ☮️
The Analogue 3d does not support OpenFPGA. The Analogue Duo does not support OpenFPGA. If you want to play your own FPGA cores you are better off getting an Analogue Pocket or a MiSTer.
They still have not shown it running any games yet. Personally I want to see some detailed reviews before forking over over three hundred bucks, but that is just me.
@@8bitjoystick already have a pocket and a MiSTer. You mean the duo doesn't have open fpga yet. ;) super nt and mega sg also got a jailbreak which was of course not "official". Their track record is enough for me to know it will be excellent hw. Without competition. As always. ☮️
Personally I will never stop using the real thing. by that I mean original Nintendo and Sega hardware. Still is weird they opened pre-orders before showing any demo footage or review units.
@@8bitjoystick it's not that weird. The n64 core on MiSTer is even better than og hw thanks to the turbo core imo . So everyone knows how good it will be. Even 2 different cores from 2 different devs. But you know the standard for both is accurate og hw. Therefore I ordered it. I never have pre-ordered a game ever. ☮️
This is all stuff that you have most dont have CRTs laying around and cant mod anything themselves lol
I don't mod my CRT or consoles much. I just use AV or S-video. Also it is super easy to GET CRTs I got all off my CRTs in the past 3 years.
I honestly plan on trying to get one pre-ordered next week and hopefully I can find some of my childhood games like Rayman 2 and Diddy Kong Racing 🎉
Well are there any good indie retro game stores in your area? I totally think a trip there is in order ua-cam.com/video/lqBL6BSUBKI/v-deo.html
A sales man can't sell you nothing 😅 You got a answer for everything.
They sold me an Analogue Pocket and all the adapters and a dock. If they made a Mega SG again I would buy it. I like some Analogue products, sometimes I prefer original hardware.
ua-cam.com/video/Y-GrbPphDHs/v-deo.html
How is right-handed person supposed to play GoldenEye or Perfect Dark with such positioning of d-pad and a stick?
You can’t and that’s the problem with the controller. Whoever designed these controllers that “fix” the N64 controller didn’t think far enough down the line to consider that.
Do you mean right-handed or left-handed? The N64 is back when they had that analog stick in the middle and I guess it was aggressively ambidextrous.
Well you can also use original controllers.
I like the Innovation Technologies Gamecube VGA Box and Rad2X. Two great options.
LevelHike also makes good HDMI stuff for classic games systems
And how much will it cost me to kit out my current N64 to do all this? About the same as it is to buy the coming console😅
Well, the hyperkin HDMI adapter is $30, the scanline generator is $35. The analogue 3D is $250 and doesn't come with an everdrive or a controller. So you would still have $185 left over.
@@nefarioussentiment7756 even more if you get a Retrotink. Imo. ☮️
@@8bitjoystick that's not the same ballpark. Analogue 3d can output 4k as interscaler. That's more like a Retrotink 4k level. ☮️
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 But the N64 games are going to be internally rendered at their original resolutions and frame rates before being scaled up. It is still going to have the weakest link being the original code, resolution and frame rate. Boy I wish they showed off some demos of it.
@@8bitjoystick tell me you don't get upscaling without telling me. ;) you are getting stuff mixed up. An upscaler has nothing to do with the fps or the internal rendering. ☮️
Does anyone know if the Everdrive 64 will work with the analogue 3D?
It probably does. All the other various EverDrives work on the other Analogue systems.
The Analogue Duo had issues with the turbo everdrive fitting but that was unlikely to happen here
So for me, I really like the all-in-one package feature of the analog products(That comes in a smaller package than the original to boot), and I'm hoping there's a little bit of improvement to the way games run on the original hardware, because a lot of the things the 64 did while very revolutionary at the time are very outdated considered by today's standards for running games. I'm probably still going to get it regardless because I like their stuff quite a bit.
usually after about a week or so of the systems being released custom OS modifications come out to let you run ROMs on the game. And I feel personally that if I'm going to just grab a bunch of emulations for a game, I am probably just going to end up going the emulation route entirely.
As for all the upgrades that's going to make your system run comparably good to an analog system for enthusiasts of retro game players (such as you or myself), I personally think the key demographic here is for people who want kind of a minimalist setup, And don't want to put in all the effort and time to setting up something that isn't just plug and play essentially.
Well what really gets me is so much of the n64's Aesthetics are tied to the lower resolution of the CRT TV and also the lower rendering resolution in some games so i really think it'll be interesting for people to do some independent tests of this unit and to actually see what the games actually look like. I should have mentioned in my video that it's a little crazy that they're opening pre-orders without showing test footage
Good perspective. I think I'm in "I want to want the Analogue 3D" territory. I have an RGB modded N64 and RetroTINK. I do think the 8bitDo controller looks a little bit nicer/comfortable than the RetroFighters ones. I think it's great the Analogue 3D will do 4K output, and save states might be nice. If you don't have an N64 already, I think the 3D is an easier choice. I didn't have any TG/PCE hardware, so I got the Duo and don't regret it. I'm in the same situation as you though, it's a lot harder to justify.
I came here because I just watched your Analogue Pocket in 2024 video! Been considering one of those too. I still have my originals - GBA SP 101, GB Micro, and also Steam Deck OLED but the Pocket still seems like it could occupy its own space. A clear upgrade over the originals, while keeping their portability (Steam deck is nice and all, but big!).
Regardless of whether I get one or not, it's really cool another option will exist soon!
I was at my favorite local retro game store yesterday and they literally had a pile of n64s for $100 a piece. It's a pretty reliable system that's easy to come by.
I mean, do we really need 4K output if the render resolution of the N64 is crazy low, like we're talking like 320x240. I would feel a lot better if they had test footage of games running on it before they offered pre-orders. I know they have a pretty good track record but still.
The older I get, the more I turn into one of those crt radical hipsters. But it makes such a difference for games of this era.
@@8bitjoystick The 4K output is useful for scaling issues a 4K panel might have, in my opinion. So that you don't have to rely on a 4K panel scaling a 1080p output (or lower) with a non-integer scale. I don't want the internal render resolution of the N64 games themselves to go up, I like the chunky OG low res look - but scaling that to a larger panel, a lot of screens make questionable decisions. Definitely not made for retro games in mind, or even games in general. The 4K output is only useful for getting around that, I think.
CRT is a whole different animal, and I agree I think it's ideal. The system was made for it, for sure! I only have LCD's, unfortunately, so scaling becomes a little more important to me. All I'm really doing is trying to match a CRT as best I can though, hah. :D
Does that $100 include an Expansion Pak? Those add a little bit - but you'd still be $100 less than the Analogue even if it didn't. Plus your shop probably includes a controller, which the Analogue doesn't have, and you have to pay for expensive shipping from Analogue too x_x
I think you're right though, the Analogue only makes sense if you don't have a CRT and you also don't want to get a scaler for an LCD. If one did get a scaler though, you could use that for all the other retro systems out there too. So even then, original HW + scaler is still probably the better choice for most people.
Needs a retrotink the hyperkin adapters are pretty trash IMO
I don't see the point of paying several hundred thousand bucks for a converter when a real CRT TV will work just fine. The N64 was made for CRTs
@@8bitjoystick the 2x costs way less for HDMI. CRT is the way to do it though.
This guy is a geek. Looks like Mario himself.
Well I really look like my dad with my mustache like this but I guess what you're saying is my dad is Mario? I'll take that.
I've got an n64 with the expansion pak, insurrection s cable, and a retro tink pro 2x hooked up to my 4k oled tv and it looks great i also have 4 retro brawler controllers, memory cards, blah blah blah all that stuff but I'm getting an analogue 3d just to be able to play my games in 4k easily on my 77 inch LG OLED C4 and it look it's absolute best. My 4 kids are getting my old n64 set up for themselves to share, play, and enjoy.
CRTs are the way to go for N64 if you ask me. I mean this era of games shines on a CRT tube.
@8bitjoystick yeah I spent many days playing the n64 back in the day. CRT's were great back then, but being able to hook em to something that doesn't weigh close to a ton with a crisper picture is more ideal. I always hated moving those beasts around!
I think this is great if you already own an N64 but I cant find one anywhere for a decent price :(
Any good local indie game stores in your area?
Why are you hating on a newer device? What this system provides is outstanding for only $250. NO HUGE MESS ON CABLES. 4k upscaler and hdmi mod would cost more then double to really kit out an old n64. I don’t think you know what kit out means. With old n64 you have to worry about leaking capacitors etc…. Let’s not even get into repairing CRT. 🤦♂️
Well currently I have four CRTs that work fine and don't need any kind of repairs. Again, the N64 was meant for CRTs and the games are actually meant to be displayed on a CRT. Analog has not shown any test footage and we don't know what games played on their systems are going to look like.
I mean they're probably saying new exciting ways to play N64 games but not actually showing it off. That's a little concerning to me
I have something better in my original N64... BlueRetro dongle (I have 4, 2 in Smoke Black and 2 OG Gray color) as you can use any bluetooth controller, even the Switch N64 Controller AND it can simulate many Controller/Memory Pak to save games. It even has a site to handle all those saves or even add your own saves from your OG Controller/Memory Pak. I also have the same HDMI dongle... regardless, I have been waiting for this Analogue 3D since the day it was announced and I'll pre order mine. I have the Pocket and I play it way more than my GBC as it is SO nice. The 8bitdo 64 controller also looks amazing as it looks like the Ultimate Controller which is so nice.
I get Bluetooth, and I have a couple Bluetooth controllers but I really prefer the simplicity and speed of a dedicated 2.4g wireless dongle. But when it comes down to the N64 controller, it is just so iconic that it's okay to play with the modern controller, but it's just not the same without the weird funky n64 controller.
@@8bitjoystick that's why I use the Switch N64 Controller on my OG N64 and I agree that is super iconic. You can also mod an original N64 Controller with 8bitdo replacement board to have bluetooth controllers that way. Those 3rd parties ones are not my thing and I'll wait for the new 8bitdo N64 controller as it looks to be a better option between the 3rd party ones.
My dream was always to get an original N64 in some whacky color, maybe one of the Pokemon N64's with the Ultra HDMI mod or Digital HDMI mod. I always thought the Ultra and Digital were THE ELITE HDMI solutions. I've seen various analog to HDMI cable solutions and they are okay I suppose but I would watch UA-cam playback of the Ultra HDMI N64 and that solution versus the cable solutions I got the feeling that the massive price on the hardware mod might just be justified for it's fidelity and quality and it made the N64 look very nice. Almost every other option for HDMI on N64 that wasn't the Ultra HDMI or Digital HDMI mod looked very awful to me. I had an original N64 growing up and I didn't have too many games but I really loved it. My N64 got wonky on me at some point and I threw it away. The price point for the Analogue 3D is lower then I have seen for N64 consoles on eBay with the Ultra HDMI mod and or Digital HDMI mod... way lower.... I believe it's USB C powered which is great because when I'm glamping (camping in style ;) I can bring my portable projector and screen and power bank. The Super NT was great to bring camping with it's USB C power. My friends aren't as into the earlier generations of gaming systems as I am. I can usually convince them to play some SNES or Genesis or N64 and also Dreamcast but not with original hardware as none of them have CRTS. We will usually emulate something. All the Analogue systems are very convenient and portable. I have a CRT but it's like a little 10 inch TV/VCR and it's not ideal for 4 player Mario Kart 64. The Analogue 3D will be perfect for a 80 inch 4K OLED... or any size LED 4K/1080p TV. I have some of the crappy N64 racing wheels and crappy as they are, 4 player Mario Kart with 4 racing wheels on the 4K TV will be a blast :)
There is the crowd of people that will say "Why don't you emulate it?" This question always makes me die inside...I enjoy a good emulator and for some games and some systems sure why not? I haven't kept up with n64 emulation for a long while but n64 emulation has always been garbage, hot steaming garbage, I can never get certain games to look and work as great as I want them too. Even on the Nintendo Switch I think the N64 emulation is just okay at best. I think they have put some effort into the N64 library on the Switch performing better and better and the games are running smoother than they originally did when they were first put out on the Switch. The N64 subscription for the Switch allows you to play online with friends which is neat :)
I mentioned the Analogue 3D to a Facebook group and one of the guys said "Nope, I have a N64 but I'm waiting for the N64 mini." If this ever happens it could be kind of cool but I think it'll just run into emulation problems like the emulation problems that exist right now....
Nintendo 64 was KING for me growing up. If Analogue delivers a top tier product, I don't see why they wouldn't I am all for this. Mario Kart 64 is forever embedded in my memory. Cruis'N USA and the other Cruis'N games are my some of my all time favorite games. I try and play some of the racing games through emulation and they just don't feel responsive at all but to be fair I don't really remember how these games controlled back in the day. They don't control well in emulation that's for sure. I hope the Analogue 3D is the dream N64 FPGA machine that I've wanted ever since the Super NT came out :) and maybe it'll get a jailbreak and ____ well you know... ;)
Well for me, the technical limitations that were inherent in early 3D looks so particularly good on a CRT TV that every time that I have it hooked up to an LCD TV. It makes me wish that I actually had it hooked up to a CRT TV because the inherent effects of the TV tube just go hand in hand with the early 3D effects. I mean it's like macaroni and cheese. You could have macaroni with chocolate sauce but it's just not the same without the cheese.
But Analogue has their fans, and they are really good at what they are. For the people who want to play N64 on a HDMI flat screen TV then this is a good option. I personally like the funkiness of the original hardware.
I mean if the analogue option was say $150 I would be all over it, but I have a retro tink already sans a Everdrive so is this really for me? eh maybe. Could just wait for the hacked firmware for the analogue to come out and bam got a everdrive built in but yeah I can only see this being for folk who have a bunch of carts (which I have a dozen) and as a result I'll probably wait and see if the price drops and when the console gets hacked before I pull the trigger.
I really doubt that there's going to be a price drop. I don't think I've ever seen price drops on Analogue stuff.
I'm not a fan of N64 except for a few select games. I really enjoyed this video and your sense of humor. 😃
Thank you. I'm trying to be more funny. I'm not as funny as a Retro Bird who is my hero.
I'm trying to write how I want to deliver a line when I write it. I don't really think my videos are like laugh out loud funny, but I'm happy if I can get a mild shuffle out of my viewers.
I'm also not above putting in dad joke puns
Nothing beats original hardware, in terms of being purely nostalgic, in my opinion. I suppose there's benefits of having newer hardware that plays the old games, but I more than likely won't buy anything like that. I'm somewhat of a purist. Nice video, friend. On a side note, I always appreciate how happy you are, man. Good vibes.
I try to be funny, or at least chuckle inducing. I am going for fun but I am happy if I can get a groan from a bad pun or an eye roll.
Unlike analogue fpga devices, a real N64 actually doesn't use emulation and has actual 100% library compatibility.
Well granted an fpga system doesn't use emulation but they haven't shown it running any games yet. I would feel more comfortable if they would have actually shown it running or had review units in the hands of people before they took pre-orders.
I mean the N64 is a pretty tricky console to get right. They've shown what the console looks like, but they haven't shown what it performs like. I want to see the folks like digital foundry do a video on it
@@ecoao80 3d is recreating or simulating original hw. It's not emulation. ☮️
It’s still technically emulation. It’s just not software based emulation like you’d get with a PC program, but it’s emulation running on an actual dedicated hardware solution with software or BIOS that tells the specific silicon what to do. As this is NOT the original hardware running the games, this is still an offshoot of emulation.
@@Darknight0681 there is no hw emulation. Wrong word technically. Stop spreading dumbed down info. ☮️
@@Darknight0681 It's not emulation using software. It's actually Hardware recreation using fpga circuitry. Emulation is trying to get close enough using software, fpga actually recreates one-to-one logic circuits.
I really hope all these people that pre-ordered their systems aren't going to be disappointed because they pre-ordered before seeing how it renders N64 games. Seriously, there's no test footage of it actually running.
Have you measured how much or do you know if the HDMI Out/scanline generator combo even adds lag?
None that I can see. The Scanline generator was meant to be used in arcade machines. Check it out! ua-cam.com/video/AqM_xZgo2vs/v-deo.html
@@8bitjoystick Thanks for the link, it's quite affordable! I might get one just to play with it ;)
But to me, it still would be nice to have an actual number by measuring the lag when this is used in combo with that Hyperkin HDMI adapter. To each his or her own opinion whether or not something like this matters.
the everdrive 64 can also play NES games cant it.
Yep. Personally, I think it's awesome that the Everdrives for the Sega Genesis can recreate a Sega Master System with FM Synth using the FPGA chips for simulating the various kinds of Genesis cartridges.
I've been seeing everyone posting about that thing. On Facebook but honestly. My reaction is meh not impressed. But then I have a Phillips television set with s video so I'm sitting pretty.
Well. It is HDMI only and you need to buy their DAC to get it working on a CRT TV. This is a weird one when real N64 systems are plentiful and capable. Plus it has such a unique flavor to it.
i don't have a space for a crt bro
I'm highly skeptical. I live in a condo in the city and I have four. You absolutely do have room for a CRT. CRTs were what people use for televisions for decades. There are various sizes and personally I think Nintendo 64 looks great on 14-in sets.
The thing about analogue, they kinda suck. However, I can buy as many of their consoles as they let me, wait two years then resell them new unopened box for 3x what I paid for them. 🤔
Well, they are not even showing any test footage before the pre-orders go live. That is bold.
This one i will pass on. Both my n64's are modded , one with the original woozle mod back in 2017 and the the digital64 mod. I have my everdrive 64 so I'm good. Both are collecting dust.
Well. If I was not making this UA-cam channel I would have a lot more time to play N64 games. Hahahaha. I mean I am glad they are making new consoles but they have not shown off anything to get me to get it over original N64 hardware, especially since I am down with CRT TVs
U r coping no one has all this lmao
I do. I actually have all of this.
Nobody hates analogue like the people who paid thousands just to create an inferior alternative
@@Dinguswithabingus Let's see my N-64 was $100, the HDMI adapters were $60. You should not include the EverDrive and the controller since the Analogue 3d can't play ROMs and does not come with a controller. So far I am about a hundred bucks cheaper once you figure in the cost of Analogue shipping. I like the Analogue Pocket. I just would rather stick with OG hardware for N64.
@@8bitjoystick it will CERTAINLY be able to play roms lol, they said the same thing about the Duo. Putting an SD card slot on it for “firmware updates” tells you everything you need to know.
"Look at all this crap I bought!" lol ok bro.
By the way, you still needed to get a controller in an everdrive or games for the analogue 3D. It doesn't come with a controller. It's also way cheaper to upgrade an existing console, but that's just me. In this case. I really like original Hardware cuz I think that the N64 was very unique and I also want the ability to play on a classic CRT TV.