Two years ago we were told batteries were getting below $100 per kwh, but batteries at consumer level are still at around 10x that. Even considering the charge and inverter functions are contained within these units, prices are extremely high. These companies are literally cashing in, hopefully in time hopefully not long competition will mean prices become reasonable
I was lucky enough to obtain one of these units from their very discounted kickstarter campaign, but remember too if you’re in the US you are entitled to a 30% cleaner energy tax credit for home battery backup, and/or solar electric technologies, so you’ll essentially be reimbursed a third of the cost come tax time :) , and that goes for home owner or renter making the upgrade.
True on the $100/kWh but that is only for the production cost. The additional cost of integration+BMS+extra software and features needs to be added. Add some margin for the manufacturar and some extra for resellers/shops ... that explains it. Also it is a fairly new market for moveable energy storage so prices will go down overtime as competition and production output allows.
@@allpharaohcious I assume those of us who ordered during the campaign are not eligible for the 30% discount that only went into effect Jan. 1 this year
@@allpharaohciousI been reading and it states that for you to receive the credit ….. Qualified battery storage technology of 3kWh or more must be installed by a connection to a dwelling in the United States, lived in by the taxpayer. You should always consult your tax professional to determine your eligibility for the Residential Clean Energy Credit under Section 25D of the Internal Revenue Code given your individual situation. Zendure does not promise any tax credit based on our products, and any information we provide is for educational purposes only and should not be considered legal advice. It does not constitute professional tax advice or financial guidance. It should not be used as the only source of information when making purchasing decisions, investment decisions, tax decisions. Consult a tax professional to evaluate your eligibility.
Thanks for this video, it gave me some enlightement on a completely new line of products. However the price is absolutely off the charts for my needs, for the moment it is just a toy for wealthy nerds.
Remember too that this unit allows you to use the 120v and 240v outlets simultaneously, and has “amp up” feature that will allow up to 5,000w ac power, most likely with the aforementioned combination of outlets.
Would have liked you to go over what amount of Kwh to run whole house including furnace, refrig and various small appliances and lights. So, how many lfp units are needed to back up the typical house electricity use.
This unit is shit I absolutely hate it I get 20 hours max just running my furnace in my fifth wheel than off I got to charge it solar I have 2 340 w panels and bring in 200 still the unit is absolutely not worth the money
Hello John. Regarding GM’s Ultium platform, could you you give us an update. The Markets were disappointed to hear GM will be ending the Chevy Bolt. The rationale was, in part, because they want all their EV’s to use Ultium, which the Bolt does not use. I don’t trust much of what GM says, but there’s not a great deal of recent data comparing Ultium to other EV manufacturers batteries. Thanks.
This unit has an 1800 Watt continuous output rating, but would you happen to know what the surge capacity is and how long that surge capacity can be supplied? Thanks.
Thanks for the video. I just got a 4600 unit and a B4600 battery. When the 4600 unit was plugged in, it says it had zero charge, and no power input from the AC wall unit. It just flashed exactly like your example at the 3:30 mark. Nothing I did had any impact on the 4600. I even plugged in the solar panels to see if it was a AC charging issue, but still no voltage was coming through the 4600. I plugged the panels into the B4600 battery and it showed 1.5kw input from the panels, so I know the panels and battery work. The app also show no input from the panels for the 4600 but does for the B4600. I've emailed Zendure and got a couple stalling replies such as take a screen shot to show us, then, take a video and show us, which I did. And nothing from them for 5 days now. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
@@UnitedStates. Yes, they did. It took quite a few weeks of emails and discussion, but they finally took the unit back and sent me a new one, which worked perfectly.
@@UnitedStates. I think Zendure also has the 6400 unit that you can tie two together with the B6400 batteries to create a 64Kw power wall - essentially. That's probably cheaper than a power wall, but I haven't really looked into it tho. If you go that way, let us know how it works out, if I can afford it in the future, that's what I want to do also.
@@billgibbs7793Unless you need portability, I’d go with the power wall. This is a work in progress. I know because I own one. Still some teething issues.
The UPS doesn't function as you describe, yes, you can run a device off the outlets and then unplug the cord going to the SBV and the device will continue to run, but the outlets have been running on battery the whole time. Unlike a real UPS which doesn't use the battery power until the main power is lost.
I am disappointed that you did not use external instrumentation to confirm output power and voltage while performing your load tests. This in my mind is an absolute minimum requirement for the review you provided. Otherwise interesting.
Be careful my friends. This company Zendure doesn't deliver the products you purchase. They sold me on these batteries but then won't give me the home panel required to set up my batteries. It's been a YEAR since my order. They keep pushing back the dates months at a time. First I was going to get it feb 2023 then MAy 2023, then October 2023, then November 2023. Still nothing. I wouldn't mind but when I purchased the batteries, I asked what other ancillary products are required to use my battery for my home and they told me there was nothing else required. Upon purchase, I now needed to buy additional items that they won't send me or provide a tracking number for.
Two years ago we were told batteries were getting below $100 per kwh, but batteries at consumer level are still at around 10x that. Even considering the charge and inverter functions are contained within these units, prices are extremely high. These companies are literally cashing in, hopefully in time hopefully not long competition will mean prices become reasonable
I was lucky enough to obtain one of these units from their very discounted kickstarter campaign, but remember too if you’re in the US you are entitled to a 30% cleaner energy tax credit for home battery backup, and/or solar electric technologies, so you’ll essentially be reimbursed a third of the cost come tax time :) , and that goes for home owner or renter making the upgrade.
True on the $100/kWh but that is only for the production cost. The additional cost of integration+BMS+extra software and features needs to be added. Add some margin for the manufacturar and some extra for resellers/shops ... that explains it.
Also it is a fairly new market for moveable energy storage so prices will go down overtime as competition and production output allows.
@@allpharaohcious I assume those of us who ordered during the campaign are not eligible for the 30% discount that only went into effect Jan. 1 this year
Don't hold your breath.
But after the great reset
the government will take care of all that
You will own nothing and be happy
@@allpharaohciousI been reading and it states that for you to receive the credit ….. Qualified battery storage technology of 3kWh or more must be installed by a connection to a dwelling in the United States, lived in by the taxpayer. You should always consult your tax professional to determine your eligibility for the Residential Clean Energy Credit under Section 25D of the Internal Revenue Code given your individual situation. Zendure does not promise any tax credit based on our products, and any information we provide is for educational purposes only and should not be considered legal advice. It does not constitute professional tax advice or financial guidance. It should not be used as the only source of information when making purchasing decisions, investment decisions, tax decisions. Consult a tax professional to evaluate your eligibility.
Thanks for this video, it gave me some enlightement on a completely new line of products. However the price is absolutely off the charts for my needs, for the moment it is just a toy for wealthy nerds.
Remember too that this unit allows you to use the 120v and 240v outlets simultaneously, and has “amp up” feature that will allow up to 5,000w ac power, most likely with the aforementioned combination of outlets.
Would have liked you to go over what amount of Kwh to run whole house including furnace, refrig and various small appliances and lights. So, how many lfp units are needed to back up the typical house electricity use.
One of the fullest review's I've seen. Thank you. Would be interesting to know how it compares to the EcoFlow Delta Pro.
This unit is shit I absolutely hate it I get 20 hours max just running my furnace in my fifth wheel than off I got to charge it solar I have 2 340 w panels and bring in 200 still the unit is absolutely not worth the money
@@trevorashton4598Using a battery for heating is a bad idea. That goes for any unit you use.
Hello John. Regarding GM’s Ultium platform, could you you give us an update. The Markets were disappointed to hear GM will be ending the Chevy Bolt. The rationale was, in part, because they want all their EV’s to use Ultium, which the Bolt does not use. I don’t trust much of what GM says, but there’s not a great deal of recent data comparing Ultium to other EV manufacturers batteries. Thanks.
Great video! Interested in reviewing our Energizer PPS320 Portable Power Station?😎
I love mine.
Does the 240V outlet work as a UPS when charging from the grid or another generator?
This unit has an 1800 Watt continuous output rating, but would you happen to know what the surge capacity is and how long that surge capacity can be supplied? Thanks.
Thanks for the video. I just got a 4600 unit and a B4600 battery. When the 4600 unit was plugged in, it says it had zero charge, and no power input from the AC wall unit. It just flashed exactly like your example at the 3:30 mark. Nothing I did had any impact on the 4600. I even plugged in the solar panels to see if it was a AC charging issue, but still no voltage was coming through the 4600. I plugged the panels into the B4600 battery and it showed 1.5kw input from the panels, so I know the panels and battery work. The app also show no input from the panels for the 4600 but does for the B4600. I've emailed Zendure and got a couple stalling replies such as take a screen shot to show us, then, take a video and show us, which I did. And nothing from them for 5 days now. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks.
@@UnitedStates. Yes, they did. It took quite a few weeks of emails and discussion, but they finally took the unit back and sent me a new one, which worked perfectly.
@@UnitedStates. I think Zendure also has the 6400 unit that you can tie two together with the B6400 batteries to create a 64Kw power wall - essentially. That's probably cheaper than a power wall, but I haven't really looked into it tho. If you go that way, let us know how it works out, if I can afford it in the future, that's what I want to do also.
@@billgibbs7793Unless you need portability, I’d go with the power wall. This is a work in progress. I know because I own one. Still some teething issues.
The UPS doesn't function as you describe, yes, you can run a device off the outlets and then unplug the cord going to the SBV and the device will continue to run, but the outlets have been running on battery the whole time. Unlike a real UPS which doesn't use the battery power until the main power is lost.
The Seamless UPS doesn’t work when plugged into grid. How can I disable the UPS?
The UPS feature only works with the bottom two 120V outlets (and the RV outlet), and not the top two 120V outlets
Can you also charge it with a gas generator?
Can the superbase v be charged with a wind turbine?
I am disappointed that you did not use external instrumentation to confirm output power and voltage while performing your load tests. This in my mind is an absolute minimum requirement for the review you provided. Otherwise interesting.
In the future I will do this. Thanks for the feedback.
Why does the Superbase V shutdown when charging and discharging when using AC (grid) to charge?
Contact Zendure, that doesn't sound right.
Be careful my friends. This company Zendure doesn't deliver the products you purchase. They sold me on these batteries but then won't give me the home panel required to set up my batteries. It's been a YEAR since my order. They keep pushing back the dates months at a time. First I was going to get it feb 2023 then MAy 2023, then October 2023, then November 2023. Still nothing. I wouldn't mind but when I purchased the batteries, I asked what other ancillary products are required to use my battery for my home and they told me there was nothing else required. Upon purchase, I now needed to buy additional items that they won't send me or provide a tracking number for.
What’s the weight ?
whatt the charger voltage?
What is the purpose of the 240 volt outlet?
Well you could probably Level 2 charge an EV. But he neglected to mention the Amps.
To run 240v appliances like a drier or range
I have yet to find a video of someone using the 240v outlet.
@@harrychu650 16 amps at 240v from a single SBV
That's because the plug type (NEMA 6-20) isn't very popular so you need an adapter to plug most 240 items in
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Grow Henp!
Like your reviews but this thing isn’t good
What don't you like? Too much capacity? Too many plug options? Too much expandability?
It's junk , very unreliable
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And when it dies you need a 3000$ generator to charge that back up. Just buy a home generator and skip this crap.