How To Layout Tile So That It's Perfect Every Time | THE HANDYMAN |
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Harrison, Sal DiBlasi
will concur with Sir Handyman. I almost had a nervous breakdown trying to understand Sal's video. -- ua-cam.com/video/yZujnu3QW1g/v-deo.html
Us tilers have to be OCD.
Hello , i am from the Internet and we are in agreement . Tip of the glass
You can never be too OCD when laying tile
@@Tonyhouse1168 True indeed.
Just a little tip when laying tile... set the tile down close as possible to the adjacent tile then press and slide away. This keeps thinset from rising up from the joints. 👍
Excuse my ignorance, but what is that orange pad he uses and what does the black tabs do?
@@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure Use Ditra (orange thing) as an underlayment for concrete or wood subflooring. It prevents the tile from cracking allowing for movement. It's super expensive but worth the cost to do it right. Use a very thin even layer of thinset when applying Ditra to avoid an uneven base due to clumping or air pockets. The black tabs are wedges and spacers which can be bought in different sizes depending on your grout size preference. It also gives you a visual when laying the tiles evenly. Buy enough spacers to make sure you're not having to reuse any from previously set tiles...
@@weskarcher483 thank you!
With clips cut it back
I love that he uses the Pythagorean theorem to check his squareness! He has my respect.
I'm a tile setter by profession and there's plenty of things you're doing differently than we do but boy am I glad to see you back buttering tile. Can't tell you how many times I've torn out showers and floors to find zero bond on the back of the tile.
“Perfect every time” *Jeff from DIY Renovision has entered the chat*
@@HandymanHustle What makes you say he's an idiot?
Looks like we were doing the same thing Saturday night - I'm a rookie so the irritation is still fresh in my mind of trying to get things perfect with my tiles. Even watching this video I picked up a few tips on your lay out, spacers, and technique. I shoulda waited! Great video!
*Lightbulb moment* I just figured out what those wedges are for!!! They're for keeping all the tiles at exactly the same height! I love it! Never seen THOSE before, only seen the little cross-shaped spacers. Those look amazing!
Tile noob here about to yolo into a small project. The key thing I learned here was to use the grout lines as center points instead of the actual tile. Super helpful
I always center the middle of the tile in the middle of the doorway, it visually looks better, and is safer for those who are scared to walk on cracks in fear of breaking their Mother's back!
Laughing...
or marrying a rat :P
Your forethought is appreciated!
I love that use of the 345 triangle. Simply amazing.
Trigonometry up in this 🔥🔥
The best method to find a perfect square.
Pythagorean theorem actually... but yes Carpenters use Trigonometry pretty much all the time especially building a roof starting off with trusses...
3 4 5 is the easy, fast and simple way to use the Pythagoras Theorem the square.
Tile guy here, I’m late to the party but, keeping the tile backs wet with at least a sponge will do wonders for your bonding-especially when laying over plywood, hardybacker, or dura-rock. Helps stop thinset from drying out fast and flashing off. Shouldn’t really need to back butter 👍
I'm a tile guy and I approve this video.
Let's see if Sal Diblasi approves....
@@HandymanHustle My dear late father, a humble school teacher but master of anything construction, ALWAYS found the center of the room and began there.....
@@overcomer4226 depends on size of your tiles
Number one UA-cam channel “ In the World”
I watch 4 videos from some other channels and got so confused with what they were saying but after 2:53 into your video I got it, definitely the number one in the world.
K.I.S.S is my method. Open a box, rough layout & adjust accordingly, snap lines. No math required saves time. Never failed me.
If anyone is curious to what he says as he works just turn the speed down to 25%
Just did that for the first time then read this lol
It really hit home when you said, if you work 40hrs a week, you have enough find another 40 hrs to make your business..thats true..
Never seen anybody look more like a real life Action Man.
Takes pride in his work! Good sense of humor! Two things that will take you far!
Thank you for your video. I'm planing to have my kitchen floor tiled professionally 375 SF, while living in it, how long does it take? currently it is linoleum
Laid my house about 10 years ago, didn't back butter cuz was taught its not that important, multiple tiles have gotten "crunchy" after pulling some up it was obvious where there was no attachment and how little thinset actually attached. Back buttering everything now! Lol
you did it just like my dad just did our bathroom. I swear he was so over hearing "wHy WoUlDnT yOu StArT iN tHe CorNeR??" lol
My dad lectured me too - always (!) start in the center of the room or area.
🙄 Yes, dad...
What I recommend: 1. A 100lb flooring roller to set the ditra into the mortar; skim the ditra with mortar and let set up - semi-filling the recesses - which creates a relatively smooth and visually calmer substrate. This also eliminates the need to back-butter most tiles.
I don’t go to sleep until i just hear... “welcome back to the number one home improvement channel in the entire. world.” day isn’t done without it.
Dude you’re my hero I’m a healthcare worker and being a handyman is my dream
The wedges are faster but I like the Ridgid Levelmax cone type spacer to prevent lippage. No tool needed for those.
Me too 👍
Yeah, see the issue with using modified thinset on Schulter is that it would be sandwiched between 2 non porous surfaces and the additive wouldn't dry. That is why they recommend unmodified.
Great explanation of why it's important to think before starting & lay your first tile courses as evenly as possible. Otherwise that bizarre mathematics thing happens 🤔? where being just a fraction off leads to a noticeable wedge area of floor to tile on the far side of the room. Lots of people make this mistake though, rushing to finish. Then blame the awfulness on crooked walls, lol. 😁👉 //
(Worst, hardest, dirtiest home project ever, chiseling out old porcelain tile. That mastic adhesive really does bond to floors, no exaggeration. Never want to do it again.)
Literally just removed tile like that in my own house. Wish the original installers paid as much attention to installing it as you are haha that stuff was all jacked up!
No you don't lol. If I had installed it it would be there forever and need a jack hammer to remove. At least with a shity job it's easy to take them out usually.
Just a tip I figured out... instead of back buttering, you can also just take a bucket of cold water, and use a sponge to dampen the back of the tile...all you need is the tile to be damp so it creates adhesion to the floor...you'll use less mortar as well
I usually find the center of the room and make several measurements and draw several straight intersecting lines on the floor and adjust in each direction as needed for doors and other rooms. Most cut tile edges will end up against the walls where trim will cover over the raw cut edge. A cupped tile is your main concern which can leave an air pocket under a tile making it easy to crack.
Cupped tiles are for sure the number one enemy.
What kind of spacers is that you are using?? Thanks again!!.. :))............
This was really satisfying... I enjoyed the back buttering the most that's what I do when I tile or glue something it's just best for the bond to apply the substance on both things they bond better that way...just my opinion ofc..
I wont be on here telling u how to tile bro...i tiled one house the whole thing and yeah not fun when it's a crap load of floor ur tiling but I definately was getting my butters and my next squares and my mid mixing down to a T for so much of it on that job.
I can tell your doing an awesome job just looks pretty darn good from here! Keep up the good work!
Tampa FL
I use to snap control lines and get layout and move my lines all over to get a good layout. Now I use a layout lazer. Will never go back to the old ways unless I dont have aa batteries.
Layout lazer? Is this a bosch? And witch one do you use
I use the old lazy laser.
Question from a newb... At 12:17, are you crawling over the tile then next day, or does that thinset cure quick enough that you aren't pushing them around? Thanks.
Next day.
Excellent work and thanks for the content stay safe and take care
Good morning Mr. Handyman! Are there any premixed adlesives or premixed cements for large tiles 12x24 in that I can buy from Home Depot or Lowe's? Thank you for your time to answer!
Nice work right there mate. Cheers 🇦🇺🦘
you have to do the 3, 4, 5, ft mark from the 1in. mark on the tape it is more accurate then the metal tip on the tape, espicially in big rooms, a 16th or an 8th of an in. off can make a difference
Just so everyone knows, I have a job. A good job. But I happen to be here when he publishes. LOL. Good vids. I'll send you some of my 1940's house rebuild one day. I carry tools, building materials, gas, and a match to each project.
Nice job handyman
@handyman or anyone know...
Using Ditra. I need to remove a linoleum floor from laundry room. Once removed can I just use modified thinset then apply ditra or do I need to do national prep for rest of the linoleum adhesive?
I like this guy. Good vids. And you can tell dude does a good job.
Thank you.
Do you clean your bucket out when you start a new batch of thinset?
I backbuttered the tile in my bathroom floor and regretted it. Was difficult as shit to get everything level due to the amount of mortar. Backbuttered the tile in my shower and it was fantastic, made my life super easy. Like most things, theres a time and a place for all things.
You need to push down the ridges that you build up with your comb. You set the tile 2 inches away from the place it needs to go and push it into place, this collapses the ridges of thinset and gives you a 95%+ coverage on the tiles. This is a lot more important than backbuttering the tiles themselves. Just fyi.
This makes a lot of sense. I'm probably confused, but I thought the purpose of the ridges is to keep the tile lifted level? If you smoosh the tiles down then you have to take an extra step & use a level to make sure the tiles are set evenly flat. (The first time I installed wall tile, I did it the way you suggest & ended up with a wavy layout. When light reflection hit the wall you could really see how poorly done I did the work. Not my proudest moment :(
But if you do that, will the thin set come out thru the ends and you will have to remove it so you can put the grout?
That's what I was thinking. He got the lines straight, but didn't do the push down and jostle thing I see on other videos.
I'm going to do my first tile job in the next week and this video gave me tips, but I wonder about a few things
Great video for anyone who lays or is going to lay tile!!! Very informative! Many thanks..... :))...........
did you use a modified thinset for the ditra to the slab? I would imagine that would be fine since the concrete should allow it to dry.
Do you have a link for the follow up video on doing the cuts ?
Best channel on the tube.
Do a video talking about your Rolex, and when/why you bought it.
Hey love the show. Ive tiled for years and man u didnt need to use that clip system as much u did plus spacers
Great explanation of measurements and 3x4x5. God bless the souls of those master masons from ancient Egypt.
Hey Handyman, I want to learn to tile really well. What’s the quickest way to learn this trade? How long should it take to develop this skill?
Great beard man! Ace vid
if your back buttering every tile how much do you charge?
Bought a house two years ago. Whoever tiled the kitchen and bathroom started against a wall, and branched out from there. The three tile rows that extend under the stove are offset from the ENTIRE rest of the kitchen!! (Rather than adding slivers, they just butted the tile up to the cabinets, and "they don't line up" be damned). We have boxes of tile to redo it correctly, but it's a LOT of work, so I'm procrastinating...
Okay, so what's the point of "Back Buttering"? I figured out what it is from watching this (I was initially confused), but I have NEVER seen that done, and I've been "the kid" on a couple of tiling projects.
I rarely use those wedge spacers, or schluter for that matter. Only typically use the wedges for marble or very specific jobs. They’re expensive af. Usually just use regular spacers, I’ve gotten really good over the course of 8 years leveling it out by hand or pouring self leveler down. Usually use concrete board of some sort instead of schluter too. Very interesting to watch other tile guys lay tile. There’s only about 5% of us that actually do a good job 👍🏽
Schluter is good for basements, temperature variations, so the tile don't crack????? Not really needed in upper floors w/ plywood as sub floors?????
not sure why i'm addicted to home improvement / DIY channels .. i don't even do this kinda stuff .. i rent
Inquisitive creative mind?
I can see using unmodified under shluter but over top I'd like a better bond with modified. I think the recommendation is so that the tile moves with the membrane, modified is like adding two flexible membranes. Still rather have better adhesion.
You really should do a segment on retrolling basement contractors. Lol would be funny
Is OBS board an option in the basement if you wanted to ad R-value? Something like, Detra/OBS/tiles
...very, very, very, very expensive mortar by Schluter...said the tile guy with Rolex watch... LOL
GODBLESS.
Great job and thanks Sir
For lpv, does the room need to be squared off? I usually just use wall spacers.
Excellent work and video. Great bear too!
Dang those are some impressive walls! We use tec full set plus for Detra.
Most importantly, where can i get a a pair of those overalls?
Great job.
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Im a painter and today I saw how they had to remove the entire tile in a living room and dining room because tthere was some areas where the tile line looked bad(in Moreno Valley ca)
Is that a dumbie tape he was using
What is going on with that wall to make the jamb see like its 2 feet deep?
Probably has a door inside, the push in pull out type of doors.
WTF are those wedges for? And how are you supposed to get that white part out afterwards?
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What did you charge per square foot?
Why did you put ditra over concrete? I typically only use it if I'm going over plywood or use the shower system I would use it on a second floor but you are in a basement
My guess is that it provides a layer of separation between the concrete and tile so that if the cement cracks, it doesn't necessarily mean that crack will translate up to the tile.
I heard it make the surface of the tile slightly warmer as well. We’ll see..
When is the live stream? Roughly? I missed the last one
I'm going to try for friday night.
How do you like the Schluter? I still stick with Concrete board
My money is on the mystery company sent you a light saber to cut the tiles. 😂
Why does the entire Center not have leveling wedges and you are able to just walk around on top of them all after you just set them and everything?
Thanks sir
What I would do is cut out around the door first, leave enough tile inside door. Transfer that number to the wall running into the room. Then you would only have look at 4 walls. If the math adds up so you dont have a sliver piece roll with it. I just think it makes the math eaiser if you start at the door.
It probably would have looked better if you centered the tile instead of the grout line just saying Happy Father's Day by the way all the way from San Antone
That hair/beardcut is perfect
Thanks.
Just watching this makes my back and knees hurt...man I fucking hate tile work
Just buy a floor laser square for $50. Works great!
wouldn't it be better if the tiles were glued to the screed?
What is 3,4,5 triangle?
Kinda hard to follow him on this i found
I'll work into a corner as well if that's where I want my nasty cuts to go. I would never work from a wall back to the center line.
You wouldn't believe how many negative comments I get for working into a corner on some of my tile videos. Thanks for the comment.
Do you have to put thinset on the back of the tile before laying it? Isn't the thinset on the floor enough?
On walls yes with the unmodified thunder I only backbitter on floor tiles with dabs when floor is out of level so have more play
why did you do it in two installments?
good job man
Good morning Handyman!
Damn brother if that is the new microphone, then that was money very well spent! Have info on it?
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Nice tape measure lol jk I some times buy those for my newer guys that can’t read tape very well
I happen to use schluter products often. Follow the thinset recommendations. Luckily I learned from the mistakes of others and not my own but modified thinset just does not properly bond to their products.
It will bond, it just takes about 2-3 weeks to fully cure. After that, you’re good to grout. 😂
Unless its their allset … so they say
I’ve said test these testes for decades, that cracked me up