50 round, 12 Gauge Shotgun tray works great for a loading tray for the BMG, almost a perfect fit. I'm still waiting to find primers to be available. I use the Wilson Pocket Trimmer to remove the crimps, works awesome. Also, I splurged for the Dillon Priming Die, works so awesome. Glad to see you are finally able to test this out. Would love to see a segment trying the Cutting Edge Bullets for the BMG.
Never seen .50 BMG powder before; it's massive! I'd love to add a rifle like that to my collection, but I don't have anywhere near me that I can stretch its legs out. Working towards getting some land in a rural area where I can shoot long distance on the regular. I really like the technical flair of this channel. Watching people magdump is fun for a while, but this really gives you something to think about. ❤️
You would have loved reloading the 50 BMG on my Hollywood Super Turret. If you bought the dies from Corbin you could also make your bullets. Great video and do you fabricate the rifle for others?
I suggest removing the expander ball on the deprimer when you FL size, then running the ball through on a second pass. Pulling the ball through from the neck after sizing it down will pull the case out of round compared to expanding through the mouth first.
@Ultimatereloader polish the expander ball and keep the momentum going on the upstroke of the handle. This is what has worked well for me doing brass for my M2. I also use a home built walnut hill press to size. You will need a stout bench, I weigh down a butcher block top bench with pulled bullets.
Awww, I was hoping to see trimming and how do you tumble the brass? How many will fit in a Frankford Arsenal Wet Tumbler. I have questions that need answered! Thank you for showing the crimp removal, Super cool!
Hi Gavin, I had a problem resizing 7x61S&H brass that had just been annealed. What was happening was, if it removed the expander ball the cases would chamber ok, but with the expander ball in place the cases wouldn't chamber. So I think the expander ball was stretching the neck out when drawing it back out of the case. The necks were lubed inside.
I'd love to reload all my fired 50 brass, but the primer pocket crimp removal step needing a lathe (or some other special tool) turns an expensive project, with all the dyes and special press, into one out of reach. Plus there's the complete lack anywhere of 50BMG primers to boot. I was curious on lack of a brass annealing step. Seems like annealing would be critical for sub-moa low MV spread results. I also noted you didn't show the MVs from the Garmin xera. I know my Burstfire propane torch annealer wouldn't accommodate the 50 case size, so either some kind of induction annealer? The Hornady 50 bmg AMAX at $9/each will have to do. And I use the 'cheap' $5/rnd PMC 660 gr ammo for plinking.
I shot quite a few of those belt fed 50 cal in Ma dueces. Just about bought a nice bolt quite a few years ago but i passed. Few places allowing to shoot. Great build there and great video.
Those Triebel die are nice. However, when you initially demonstrated the RCBS Ammomaster 50 BMG Pack it had all the RCBS die. Did you see a performance difference between the RCBS and Triebel die sets? Were the rounds you reloaded with the the RCBS die not as consistent or not as precise? I am definitely going to purchase the 50 BMG reloading press pack just wondering if it is worth it to get these other die to have a better quality reload or if the RCBS will be equivalent.
Are you planning anything for annealing the cases? I’m assuming those aren’t fitting in an AMP. 😂 I used to have a 375 cheytac improved. The game changes when you go to these giant cartridges
Hello gaven i been a fan for a while and i subscriber to.your channel i load for big bores also was wondering if buy any chance have u heard or shot a styer 460??. Its based of the 50 case slite neckdown!..pluse would u be able to make a barrel or buil a complete platform???
I loaf up my 50BMG with Somchem B12.7 powder (204gr) and Impala solid copper bullets - 650gr rounds. Have the Triebel dies but haven't been very impressed with them. I went back to my Lee 50BMG set which still works brilliantly. Looking at how much physical effort Gavin put in to size the cartridges, and I use Lapua brass in my 50BMG, just wasn't worth it, especially when you're doing large volumes of rounds at a time. Also just a note - the Triebel dies don't fit in the Zero reloading press, you need something like a Prassi Press or a Lee 50BMG press. But helluva fine rife to shoot with.
I think it would be interesting to put a camera behind a rock showing the impact at 2000 yards to show the kinetic energy of that massive 750 grain bullet.
CH Tool and die makes a swage and prime tool that goes on the press like this rcbs primer. I swage them just enough to get a go/no go to go and then had a lityltle chamfer with a chamfer bit in a drill.
Make your own loading blocks. I got fed up with the commercial blocks and their loose fit to the cases. I cut mine on a CNC router out of cherry or thick delrin cutting boards. No more case wobble spilling powder.
Reloading for the same rifle that had fired the cases you'll probably be better off just neck sizing the cases. Full length sizing works the necks quite a lot and all that effort needed to pull the sizing ball back through the neck is not good for concentricity or brass life. Would have liked to see how much run-out you had after seating? My 'good' ammo is always kept below .006" while anything over that is 'rock blaster' quality. My AR-50 really likes the A-Max over 220 grains of 5010 so I'm thinking you'll tighten up your groups with a bit more powder. The normal 50 BMG bullets are wobbling a bit as they come out of the muzzle and take some distance to settle down so it's totally normal to see tighter 200-500 yard grouping (in MOA) than at just 100 where the bullets can be going through the paper at a bit of an angle. I really do love shooting the 50's...but have found that I had to restrict my round count because the concussion is not good for your body and can and will do damage if you expose yourself to too much of it.
Really awesome video. Some minor things to say is it's really annoying trying to get primers (still in 2024). Your Triebel dies are hard to get in Canada too (maybe easier in US). Finally, I have used Imperial sizing wax, no luck because it just won't work on my Forster sizing dies. I have to use Hornady case lube or anything really wet and greasy or it will become a stuck case.
@@gunner4544 I'm reloading for everything else (223, 308, 6.5 Creedmoor). I don't have a Cadex Tremor to go with some nice Triebel dies anyways... but I got a 419 Zero...
Where did you get the seating stem for the 750AMAX?????? I purchased these dies and sat on them for a year while I waited for Creedmoor to try and get me the stem, and then I ended up sending them back. Triebel would not communicate at all during that year.
Nah, but you can't really save money over buying 750AMAXes. Unfortunately for me, I did that math AFTER I spend thousands getting all of my setup, lol. Almost nothing with a "regular" reloading setup works for 50bmg. The powder throw/measurer is about all.
I dont know about Amax rounds but I was able to do APi or ball reloads for under 1.50 last year. Primers are gone and pulldown powder is almost gone to so prices have gone up.
I’m reloading the old school 50 cal. What I mean is black powder for my flintlock 50 cal and for my inline I use 120 grains of black horn 209 which is closer to 150-160 grain of black powder substitute. Now that is the only 50 caps I own but my 50 cal inline will put anyone on their ass if they shot it
50 round, 12 Gauge Shotgun tray works great for a loading tray for the BMG, almost a perfect fit. I'm still waiting to find primers to be available. I use the Wilson Pocket Trimmer to remove the crimps, works awesome. Also, I splurged for the Dillon Priming Die, works so awesome. Glad to see you are finally able to test this out.
Would love to see a segment trying the Cutting Edge Bullets for the BMG.
Awesome, thanks for the tips!!!
I find this very informative! I'm getting all my stuff to reload 50 bmg for my gun. I'm jealous of how cool your rifle looks, super sweet build.
Love it, I could watch you re load all day. The logical conclusion to this series is progressive 50 BMG reloading 😉
I am really excited to see more on this Structured Barrel 375 Cheytac
SAME
Really looking forward to seeing this rifle dialed in! Would love to see some velocities.
Never seen .50 BMG powder before; it's massive! I'd love to add a rifle like that to my collection, but I don't have anywhere near me that I can stretch its legs out. Working towards getting some land in a rural area where I can shoot long distance on the regular.
I really like the technical flair of this channel. Watching people magdump is fun for a while, but this really gives you something to think about. ❤️
You would have loved reloading the 50 BMG on my Hollywood Super Turret. If you bought the dies from Corbin you could also make your bullets. Great video and do you fabricate the rifle for others?
I suggest removing the expander ball on the deprimer when you FL size, then running the ball through on a second pass. Pulling the ball through from the neck after sizing it down will pull the case out of round compared to expanding through the mouth first.
Thanks, I'll try that!
You are working your case neck twice for no reason. Think about it, it makes 0 sense to do what you suggest
@Ultimatereloader polish the expander ball and keep the momentum going on the upstroke of the handle. This is what has worked well for me doing brass for my M2. I also use a home built walnut hill press to size. You will need a stout bench, I weigh down a butcher block top bench with pulled bullets.
Came here because I'm super interested in saving money on big bore energy like 50 but then remembered that I don't have a 50 lol
Haha- hopefully still an entertaining video!
Reloading doesn't save money, but you'll shoot more because you don't feel bad about dipping into your shtf ammo.
@@KBell119well it “can” save you money lol
Same.
I have a ARS chassis, love it! Joe Updike is an awesome guy and an awesome machinist!
Sure is!
Awww, I was hoping to see trimming and how do you tumble the brass? How many will fit in a Frankford Arsenal Wet Tumbler. I have questions that need answered! Thank you for showing the crimp removal, Super cool!
Hi Gavin, I had a problem resizing 7x61S&H brass that had just been annealed. What was happening was, if it removed the expander ball the cases would chamber ok, but with the expander ball in place the cases wouldn't chamber. So I think the expander ball was stretching the neck out when drawing it back out of the case. The necks were lubed inside.
You need to do something with 416 barrett!
Discussions have started, hopefully something will happen this year on UR!
@@Ultimatereloader Excellent
Just five rounds made a significant drop in the power hopper.
Yes, it's insane!
No neck sizing after the full resize?.. or crimping after bullet seating...
I'd love to reload all my fired 50 brass, but the primer pocket crimp removal step needing a lathe (or some other special tool) turns an expensive project, with all the dyes and special press, into one out of reach. Plus there's the complete lack anywhere of 50BMG primers to boot. I was curious on lack of a brass annealing step. Seems like annealing would be critical for sub-moa low MV spread results. I also noted you didn't show the MVs from the Garmin xera. I know my Burstfire propane torch annealer wouldn't accommodate the 50 case size, so either some kind of induction annealer?
The Hornady 50 bmg AMAX at $9/each will have to do. And I use the 'cheap' $5/rnd PMC 660 gr ammo for plinking.
I'm curious about the cost per round reloading 50 BMG vs factory loads.
Sweet set up Gavin and yea the 50 is fun to load up
Thank you!
I shot quite a few of those belt fed 50 cal in Ma dueces. Just about bought a nice bolt quite a few years ago but i passed. Few places allowing to shoot.
Great build there and great video.
Thank you- It's fun isn't it?
No trimming needed?? I expected the cases to grow after shooting
Those Triebel die are nice. However, when you initially demonstrated the RCBS Ammomaster 50 BMG Pack it had all the RCBS die. Did you see a performance difference between the RCBS and Triebel die sets? Were the rounds you reloaded with the the RCBS die not as consistent or not as precise? I am definitely going to purchase the 50 BMG reloading press pack just wondering if it is worth it to get these other die to have a better quality reload or if the RCBS will be equivalent.
Sharp rifle Gavin, nice work. 👍
Thank you!
Awesome all the way around. Say, are you gonna do any more 500 snw magnum videos???
Looked thru the comments & couldn't see anything conclusive... What's the part# on the stem you used for the amax?
Are you planning anything for annealing the cases? I’m assuming those aren’t fitting in an AMP. 😂 I used to have a 375 cheytac improved. The game changes when you go to these giant cartridges
You need to reach out to kentucky ballistics and help/teach that poor man so he can save a little money reloading those cannons he has.
Hello gaven i been a fan for a while and i subscriber to.your channel i load for big bores also was wondering if buy any chance have u heard or shot a styer 460??. Its based of the 50 case slite neckdown!..pluse would u be able to make a barrel or buil a complete platform???
I loaf up my 50BMG with Somchem B12.7 powder (204gr) and Impala solid copper bullets - 650gr rounds. Have the Triebel dies but haven't been very impressed with them. I went back to my Lee 50BMG set which still works brilliantly. Looking at how much physical effort Gavin put in to size the cartridges, and I use Lapua brass in my 50BMG, just wasn't worth it, especially when you're doing large volumes of rounds at a time. Also just a note - the Triebel dies don't fit in the Zero reloading press, you need something like a Prassi Press or a Lee 50BMG press. But helluva fine rife to shoot with.
I think it would be interesting to put a camera behind a rock showing the impact at 2000 yards to show the kinetic energy of that massive 750 grain bullet.
Perhaps fly the drone out to capture it! I like it.
Good video. Did you not clean the lube from the inside of the necks or did you just not show it?
Great Shooting... 7000 gr per lb of Powder...Great Group...Stay Safe...
Thank you- yes, this thing EATS UP the powder :)
The primer crimps are the hardest part for me, I haven’t found a really good way to remove them yet. Hopefully you will find the answer!👍🏻
Dillon Precision makes a pocket swager that comes with a .50 bmg rod. Excellent quality.
CH Tool and die makes a swage and prime tool that goes on the press like this rcbs primer. I swage them just enough to get a go/no go to go and then had a lityltle chamfer with a chamfer bit in a drill.
hilarious that you had to use a lathe to remove the pocket crimp
30 rounds per pound of powder 😲
only 30 primers tho
@@christiansmith9414 silver linings 🤷🏼♂️😂
Yes, it's a "not joking around" kind of reloading scenario!!!
You only get 241 rounds per lb of powder for the tiny 5.56 so you could expect to get way less with a .50 bmg.
Looks like your decapping pin may be a little off center ?
Make your own loading blocks. I got fed up with the commercial blocks and their loose fit to the cases. I cut mine on a CNC router out of cherry or thick delrin cutting boards. No more case wobble spilling powder.
Reloading for the same rifle that had fired the cases you'll probably be better off just neck sizing the cases. Full length sizing works the necks quite a lot and all that effort needed to pull the sizing ball back through the neck is not good for concentricity or brass life. Would have liked to see how much run-out you had after seating? My 'good' ammo is always kept below .006" while anything over that is 'rock blaster' quality.
My AR-50 really likes the A-Max over 220 grains of 5010 so I'm thinking you'll tighten up your groups with a bit more powder. The normal 50 BMG bullets are wobbling a bit as they come out of the muzzle and take some distance to settle down so it's totally normal to see tighter 200-500 yard grouping (in MOA) than at just 100 where the bullets can be going through the paper at a bit of an angle.
I really do love shooting the 50's...but have found that I had to restrict my round count because the concussion is not good for your body and can and will do damage if you expose yourself to too much of it.
Great work!
Really awesome video. Some minor things to say is it's really annoying trying to get primers (still in 2024). Your Triebel dies are hard to get in Canada too (maybe easier in US). Finally, I have used Imperial sizing wax, no luck because it just won't work on my Forster sizing dies. I have to use Hornady case lube or anything really wet and greasy or it will become a stuck case.
Interesting note on the lube- this lube worked great with the Triebel dies...
R u still reloading for 50 in Canada? We can reload but can’t shoot it.
@@gunner4544 I'm reloading for everything else (223, 308, 6.5 Creedmoor). I don't have a Cadex Tremor to go with some nice Triebel dies anyways... but I got a 419 Zero...
Where did you get the seating stem for the 750AMAX?????? I purchased these dies and sat on them for a year while I waited for Creedmoor to try and get me the stem, and then I ended up sending them back. Triebel would not communicate at all during that year.
Mine came with multiple stems!
Primers=19 grs !!wowa
Where do you find primers
Hey you have done all creedmoor cartridges except 22 creedmoor. Do some load development in 70-80 gr
Hoping to do a 22 Creedmoor build here soon!
Thing needs one of those new Backfire buttpads
I'm curious to try one! Believe it or not, the brake works so well on this rifle (APA XXX Bastard) that it's not bad to shoot at all.
Yelp cci# 35’s seem to be hard to find
I only have 500 🤫
Nice.. love to get me a 50BMG would like to know how...
Hey great video Big Fan
Thank you!!!
Cost to reload 50bmg, with powder and primer costs, it's like 15 dollars a round?
Nah, but you can't really save money over buying 750AMAXes. Unfortunately for me, I did that math AFTER I spend thousands getting all of my setup, lol. Almost nothing with a "regular" reloading setup works for 50bmg. The powder throw/measurer is about all.
I dont know about Amax rounds but I was able to do APi or ball reloads for under 1.50 last year. Primers are gone and pulldown powder is almost gone to so prices have gone up.
Can you still hear out of your right ear? Looks like you had your ear muffs up on that side at 1:53...
I didn't even notice until you said something- was wearing foamies as well underneath!
Y’all didn’t measure velocities?
That's a good point. Though, with an appropriate load ladder and actual shooting at distance for trajectory, a chronograph is irrelevant.
Gonna be a bit slow with 200 grains
he had a garmin off to the side, idk why he didn't say the velocities in the videos though
damn, every where I look lately, something is telling me "get a 50"
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I've been looking for you at Rumble, i come back here and see you had a bunch more videos. What gives? You're not on rumble anymore?
Errors in sync between the two! We are working to fix it!
@@Ultimatereloader thank you. I missed quite a few episodes.
Hay eanki 416 barert relod plis
I’m reloading the old school 50 cal. What I mean is black powder for my flintlock 50 cal and for my inline I use 120 grains of black horn 209 which is closer to 150-160 grain of black powder substitute. Now that is the only 50 caps I own but my 50 cal inline will put anyone on their ass if they shot it
30 rounds from a 1lbs tin of powder 😢😂
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