Why This "Simple" FFB Mod Is So Good ┃ Automobilista 2

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
  • Automobilista 2 1.6 update prompted us to see if we could find the best FFB for this racing simulator and well here it is - this custom file removes all the rubbish and focuses everything on rack forces , good job by Alex making this
    Simply copy this into your \Documents\Automobilista 2 - custom ffb txt file removing everything else , and then selecting custom ffb in game , Put FX on 0 in game and then just chose strength and damper you want for each car.
    At the moment there are issues with cars when parked making your wheel vibrate hopefully fixed soon :)
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    NAME: Rack_Force
    (rack (/ arm_force M_max_force_at_rack))
    (output rack)
    (output (* output gain))
    (histogram output)
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  • @GamerMuscleVideos
    @GamerMuscleVideos  2 місяці тому +16

    You guys know how much I love FFB , just thought this was quite interesting I also think its really interesting the degree's to which FFB is affected by physics fundamentally but also how FFB can affect perception of physics and then all the other stuff in between. I also just think ultimately all that matters is FFB that happens to describe the state of the car the best be that realistic or not AC1 still has by far the best FFB for describing the state of the tires though and i think that's down to it also having the most realistic tire behaviour ( if not a bit simple) -

    • @AL.farmlife
      @AL.farmlife 2 місяці тому

      I wish in AC 1 telemetry was kerbs cause if to use buttkicker there is no kerbs effect but yeah ac1 ffb is good way better then ams

    • @peterpainz5510
      @peterpainz5510 2 місяці тому

      @@dusan78
      ------
      NAME: Rack_Force
      (rack (/ arm_force M_max_force_at_rack))
      (output rack)
      (output (* output gain))
      (histogram output)
      -------
      Remember to restart your game to activate it.

  • @danardisimracing
    @danardisimracing 2 місяці тому +9

    Just been trying this more simple custom ffb, absolutely fantastic! Can still feel where the car is moving but far better feel in the wheel itself, gives me more confidence about using the pedals to adjust the car's attitude too.
    Fanatec DD Pro user here, very impressed.

  • @dyrwk8022
    @dyrwk8022 2 місяці тому +43

    Dear god I got to the end, I wish I hadn't

    • @stonesvideos
      @stonesvideos 2 місяці тому

      Another useful click bait ...

    • @stonesvideos
      @stonesvideos 2 місяці тому

      video ...

    • @kedro5
      @kedro5 Місяць тому

      I read this as he was saying it in the video lol

  • @matthewcooksey5411
    @matthewcooksey5411 2 місяці тому +12

    Woah I just searched for the best FFB for AMS2 and this video was just released. I'm psychic.

  • @Hellknight27
    @Hellknight27 2 місяці тому +9

    Dear God, I got to the end and also watched most of that live stream - send help! The only rack force I care about

  • @Brundlesim
    @Brundlesim 2 місяці тому +43

    Watches at work…has to wait until getting home to try….😢

  • @SidgeRacing
    @SidgeRacing 2 місяці тому +21

    Ive been fighting and fighting to get rid of the RUBBERY feeling, this right here is the fix, its actually game changing, feels amazing

    • @Username_Invalid
      @Username_Invalid 2 місяці тому

      Same here mate. I couldn’t race AMS2 before because it never felt connected and just downright sloppy. I added the custom ffb and it instantly changed the sim. So much fun last night.

  • @edteach3r
    @edteach3r 2 місяці тому +4

    I have been using the Danielkart FFB (steering rack) file for months, coupled to a ButtKicker tuned to indicate rear wheel slip only. I will try this new file for sure, but my current system will be hard to beat. Thanks James!

    • @Peterdeskater100
      @Peterdeskater100 Місяць тому

      Wheel slip is broken for a long time. You need viper plugin for simhub to make it work.

  • @Ottis88
    @Ottis88 2 місяці тому +3

    This guy without a driver's license who wants to explain to everyone how realistic a car should feel in a simulation... Gets me every time 😂😂😂

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  2 місяці тому +2

      Explain why a person needs a road car license to know what a race car steering wheel feels like and how a driving licence is related to consumer device haptics ?
      I don't have a pilots licence either does that mean I can't know how planes fly ?
      Do you not think that maybe a person that has worked around racing sims for 20+ years would maybe have talked to many race car drivers about how things operate as well as game developers , do you need a drivers licence to be able to understand that information ?

    • @Ottis88
      @Ottis88 2 місяці тому +2

      Quite simply... You can't take someone like that seriously 😂

    • @mclane78
      @mclane78 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@GamerMuscleVideosno need to react on that shit. 😉 Trolls are everywhere. Theoretically you could have kart driving experience and bam you are able to know how real driving physics is. More then most people having a street car license and driving a shitbox with powersteering. 😉

    • @Ottis88
      @Ottis88 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@mclane78😂

    • @mclane78
      @mclane78 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Ottis88 😉

  • @xxTICxxTOCxx
    @xxTICxxTOCxx 2 місяці тому +3

    Old school on a T300RS, the FFB is grainy BUT; I've gone from "Phew, I made it." to "Damn, I can trail brake much deeper into there, there's still time on the table."
    Great stuff Alex, thank you, and thanks GM for putting the effort into giving this the spotlight.

    • @ijac21
      @ijac21 2 місяці тому +1

      @@xxTICxxTOCxx I'm on a T300 too. I've had the same experience you have had.
      I'm curious, is it difficult to feel the tires losing grip using Default+?

    • @maniacvr3107
      @maniacvr3107 2 місяці тому +1

      Can you please share your driver and ingame settings for the T300RS and this file?
      I also own an T300RS and would be interested in the settings you use with this file.

    • @xxTICxxTOCxx
      @xxTICxxTOCxx 2 місяці тому +1

      @@maniacvr3107 My Thrustmaster settings is EVERYTHING at 100%, overall strength is up to you, if you like it heavy you may damage your wheel above the base 75%, I prefer the car to talk to me, not try to arm wrestle with me. (I'm not using Thrustmaster Boost mode)
      In game I have Custom FFB using these 5 lines of text that GM put in the video description, so the Rack_Force custom ffb, with Gain set to 59, although that may need to be a little lighter or heavier on a per car basis, and all other AMS2 FFB settings at zero.
      It does feel 'different' and the graininess/near constant micro vibration was a put off at first, but when my laptimes were around 1.5 seconds quicker, and I KNEW where I could push the car harder I was sold.

    • @xxTICxxTOCxx
      @xxTICxxTOCxx 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ijac21 Compared to Default, I found that Default+ gave me next to no slip feel it just seemed full of canned bump and vibration effects. With Default I found counter-steering very intuitive to the point I was asking myself what it was that let me know I was about to over rotate, very good feeling on Default, with a 'decent' amount of feedback over bumpy surfaces and exaggerated rumble strips. Default+ I was losing the rear, sliding the front, and all the while the wheel was feeding me useless chatter.

  • @Mamasboyuk
    @Mamasboyuk 2 місяці тому +2

    I am really surprised by how much better that makes the cars feel, top marks to you mate and...Dear god I got to the end, I wish I hadn't!

  • @fredscratchet1355
    @fredscratchet1355 2 місяці тому +3

    Dear God I got to the end and actually enjoyed it haha. I have AMS2 installed but always found it a bit "floaty" so I will give this file a go, but I will admit that I am certainly no setup guru. I tend to drive RBR more now because I am embarrassed causing so many crashes for other people on track. Being on a stage on my own I only race the clock or crash simples! I've even won one or two more mundane rallies! Yorkshire Tea for the win from one Brummie to another.

  • @mahargbell
    @mahargbell 2 місяці тому +1

    Absolute game changer for me. Thanks for bringing this to light. 😎👍

  • @scubagav614
    @scubagav614 2 місяці тому

    Sat and fiddled in front of the computer... this advice really helped me. I made a small tweak and this has improved my enjoyment of AMS2 significantly.
    Have tried various custom feedbacks in the past... i look for immersion over ultimate lap time, so i used this custom file but put back some FX in game and it feels like best of both worlds for me.
    Thanks for the vid!

  • @EddieGearknob
    @EddieGearknob 2 місяці тому +1

    Tried this on my Accuforce (SimXperience software very good at dialling out rubbish)
    Finding this file much better, easier to recover when overshooting corners slightly, more grip definition into the corners and less noise.
    Out of the files tried (all of em) this is by far the cleanest and tigher grip feel and complements SimXperience perfectly, many thanks James.

  • @billyweb8846
    @billyweb8846 2 місяці тому +1

    You're spot on with what you describe as 'better' FFB. The most important element is to be able to control the car naturally, as you would in real life. Other elements such as 'road feel' and 'kerb rumble' etc don't help control the car any more than feeling the wind on your face would 🙂

  • @robcampbell6099
    @robcampbell6099 2 місяці тому +1

    Can't believe there was no tea at the end of the video.

  • @machielzuur2532
    @machielzuur2532 2 місяці тому +1

    I don’t have a life and hate myself. I feel at home here.

  • @hayeduce
    @hayeduce 2 місяці тому +7

    but... but... the default and default+ profiles do the same thing, when FX, LFB, and Damping are turned down to 0, it gives you pure steering rack forces. this has been documented by reiza way back in the v1.4 update logs. the other things in the file are mostly QoL things, like proper soft lock etc.

  • @danfry909
    @danfry909 2 місяці тому +3

    Dear god I got to the end, I wish I hadn't. In all seriousness though, this is a super-helpful video, the result of many hours of experimentation. I know it would never happen, but I'd love to see your analysis of GT7 FFB these days. It has apparently had a few updates in the last couple of years, and I'd be really interested to see where the FFB falls over in your opinion.

  • @captainunderpants200
    @captainunderpants200 Місяць тому

    Tried this. It's so much better. Thanks for the heads-up.

  • @enzob95
    @enzob95 2 місяці тому +1

    LFS on a G25 (which felt like the best thing in the world then) was brilliant

  • @Poncheezy
    @Poncheezy 2 місяці тому +4

    what's crazy is that this man spent 16 minutes talking us to death and at no point felt the need to actually show us how to apply the file. Kinda lazy imo.

    • @rockettracing7897
      @rockettracing7897 Місяць тому

      @@Poncheezy don't get me started. Seems to be the way of UA-camr now, just pad your runtime with nonsense

  • @tus_hobbys_son_los_mios
    @tus_hobbys_son_los_mios 2 місяці тому +1

    If the Spanish subtitles were activated, the Spanish community would be able to understand it better, and I think there are quite a few people who speak Spanish. Greetings and thanks for your content.

    • @inakilopez3261
      @inakilopez3261 2 місяці тому

      Me he planteado eso mismo en varios videos de este youtuber

    • @veryyes1919
      @veryyes1919 2 місяці тому

      El inglés se enseña mal

  • @SimCurves
    @SimCurves 2 місяці тому

    This is just freaking fantastic. Yes, I got to the end. Yes, you saved AMS2 for me there.

  • @brianrogers5537
    @brianrogers5537 Місяць тому +1

    Dear God I got to the end....lol, thanks for the video

  • @frankzappa2274
    @frankzappa2274 2 місяці тому +1

    GM couldn't you keep this Top-Secret 😅. I can concur This file saves the Sim for me.
    Like James said it's the precision in the steering rack. I can actually drive the old vintage cars again without spinning out everywhere since 1.6 update. Oh, you'll still find a old slidey if you push it too hard But this file has a lot of potential.

  • @lee4862
    @lee4862 2 місяці тому +1

    Dear God! - I got to the end but cant say wish I hadn't as I've now tried the settings& I like them - cheers Gamer 🙂

  • @lerouxvermeulen4403
    @lerouxvermeulen4403 2 місяці тому +1

    Dear god I watched to the end, and I'm glad I did xD But yeah, steering wack FTW. You are such a good influencer, thanks GayAndMuscle!

  • @carlgray6764
    @carlgray6764 2 місяці тому +1

    i like this FFB thanks Alex and the bold one.

  • @wabbit234
    @wabbit234 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice, wholesome, honest force feedback.

    • @wabbit234
      @wabbit234 2 місяці тому

      I like it a lot. Feels a lot more like the original Automobilista.

  • @lazerbeam608
    @lazerbeam608 Місяць тому

    I think this is the best feeling file I have used for AMS2 - gives it a nice feel like using a good LUT file in Assetto Corsa. The rack feeling from this gives you a nice sense of road. I think the GT3 cars is where you lose the most sensation, but I think that is Rieza's build on those cars, it gets better as the tires warm. I have a CSL DD using a Mclaren Gt3 wheel, CSL P1 wheel, and bare 320 Fanatec rim on a Universal Hub v2. All feel great with a gain setting in AMS2 of between 50-60% thats the sweet range. Tune in where you clip. You will still have force and nice fidelity.

  • @jasons4745
    @jasons4745 2 місяці тому

    Appreciate the great explanation GM 👍

  • @GaragebuiltOriginal
    @GaragebuiltOriginal 2 місяці тому +1

    Ok I just got done hotlapping this setup in my porsche gt3. Overall felt very good but here's the thing I barely play this game to even know if it's that much better.
    Ill take your word that it's better so thank you.

  • @strikkflypilot927
    @strikkflypilot927 2 місяці тому

    This was nice. Possible to feel when the front tires are on the verge of loosing grip.

  • @jeremyswanzy851
    @jeremyswanzy851 2 місяці тому +5

    Dear God, I got to the end, and now I need a cup of tea!

  • @68sixgun
    @68sixgun 2 місяці тому +14

    Changing ffb files is a rabbit hole you do not want to fall into.

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  2 місяці тому +2

      Been doing it since R factor 1 2006 or so 😆. - "REAL FEEL" LOL

    • @Username_Invalid
      @Username_Invalid 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah but this one literally finally made the game drivable and fun. Before this ffb mod and update I could never feel connected to the car. This should be the default.

    • @justkris6461
      @justkris6461 2 місяці тому

      ​@@GamerMuscleVideos Explains why you obsessed with ffb😆

  • @TrackDayMedia
    @TrackDayMedia 2 місяці тому +1

    Rack force is the one and only one I have used since I found it. It's soooo damn good

  • @tarmacterrorist.thepotato
    @tarmacterrorist.thepotato 2 місяці тому +2

    Dear God I got to the end, and wish that I had'nt! 🙂

  • @CuriousMind_LVG
    @CuriousMind_LVG 2 місяці тому

    I tried this custom file. I really like it. Thank you

  • @markstuart8007
    @markstuart8007 2 місяці тому

    This video is more game-changing than the 1.6 update!

  • @scorps0326
    @scorps0326 2 місяці тому

    This is the missing piece of the puzzle! fantastic DC!

  • @trexx97
    @trexx97 2 місяці тому +2

    dear god I got to the end and wish that I hadn't...

  • @splatracer7726
    @splatracer7726 2 місяці тому +1

    Dear God…….Great Vid. Can’t wait to try this out. Not calling you God……y’know I sat through it all for some reason.

  • @aogsimracing5663
    @aogsimracing5663 2 місяці тому

    I had a pretty good Custom FFB "FullFFB by JP v12", but decided to try this and not bad at all. I'll probably A - B them a few times but this could be the winner. I've got a Alpha mini and set force 27 low force boost 6 fx 0 and a little damping. Working good so far in the Porsche GT3

  • @blainedermono7
    @blainedermono7 2 місяці тому +1

    Dear god, I got to the end and I wish I hadn't.

  • @unshapentube7395
    @unshapentube7395 12 днів тому

    Dear GOD I got to the end and wish I hadn't.
    p.s. Thank you

  • @Bambeakz
    @Bambeakz 2 місяці тому +1

    We all love to play with knobs. Just ask for permission or it can be a very aggressive FFB on the nose

  • @putzak
    @putzak 2 місяці тому +2

    Always liked a good rack

  • @arenam79
    @arenam79 2 місяці тому +16

    I like the defuly+ better than defult 😜

    • @kolysion164
      @kolysion164 2 місяці тому +1

      the issue is it's constant force, low speed, fast speed, terrible feeling

    • @nicklibby3784
      @nicklibby3784 2 місяці тому +1

      ​​@@kolysion164 I think I know what you mean. Are you talking about how "springy" default+ can be? Or how crazy the oscillations can be especially when counter steering to catch a slide? Even during understeer or realigning the wheel straight sfter a corner. Sorry if my descriptions are bad im not sure how to describe it.
      I typically always run my wheel with zero damper completely. None on the game and base settings. But with default+ it is ridiculous, oscilations can easily happen or i can easily countersteer way too much or realign too fast smd cause oscilations. Its like the wheel gets very light. Maybe its just my driving style/ the way I handle the wheel, but in general i can drive all sims (& real life) about the exact same way (in terms of the way i handle the wheel and feel for feedback and controll it) but with default+ its like i have to either runs tons & TONS of damper which takes away much feeling or i have to change the way i fundamentally drive to account for the "springyness" of default+.
      I really like how default+ feels otherwise. It feels more like Assetto Corsa than the default ffb does i think. I like how you can easily feel weight transfer and feel braking better etc. but when it comes toncounter steering or realigning the wheel after turning it's like i cant really let the wheel "naturally realign itself" if that makes sense? Normally i can partially let go of the wheel or let go completely pr sometimes push/pull a tiny hit to help realign the wheel or countersteer. Basically i just lightly guid the wheel. But with default+ I can't really do that, the wheel is too springy its weird. Its like i have to push against the wheel more than normal to keep it from realigning or counter steering too quickly and or getting into an osculation. This makes it hard to handle precisely.
      I wonder if there is a way to fix that issue because otherwise i really really enjoy default+ a lot. Maybe someone else knows if there is a way to copy the default+ ffb file and simply edit it to get rid of that "constant force" problem which i think is my issue.
      What is your experience?

  • @tlosbarranqueros
    @tlosbarranqueros 2 місяці тому

    Just won a new subscriber 💪

    • @Gabriel-dj3kf
      @Gabriel-dj3kf 2 місяці тому +1

      Will not regret, this man says what he thinks about the games and this is good for us

  • @the_clhoyt
    @the_clhoyt 2 місяці тому

    Dear God, I got to the end...and glad I did, I think? (Depends on if I like the new FFB, I guess?)

  • @Ahmad-qj6ij
    @Ahmad-qj6ij Місяць тому

    I’ve been watching you for 6 months. Today is the first time I found out you are bald.

  • @kristaps2010
    @kristaps2010 2 місяці тому

    good video subject, thank you, Liked!

  • @sampathrajapakse
    @sampathrajapakse 2 місяці тому +1

    Dear God, I got to the end, and wish that I hadn't

  • @Cereal_Killr
    @Cereal_Killr 2 місяці тому

    I was tinkering with a FFB mod while back. It made the game SO MUCH better. It gave you a sense of what was going on. It really turns the game into a genuine sim.

  • @simonjohnade
    @simonjohnade 2 місяці тому

    Great video!! Thank you 😊 Dear God I.... I forgot 😂

  • @moozak05
    @moozak05 2 місяці тому +1

    dear god i got to the end and hate myself now

  • @SingleRacerSVR
    @SingleRacerSVR 2 місяці тому +1

    Excellent & very helpful video - thanks Mr Muscle. But I was just slightly confused when you stated that by using the FFB File, you broke a "World Record" time.....
    But how do you beat a world record time from 7th position - don't you have to finish first?. ; P
    (Ohhh, I see, you must mean you beat you own record time set from that 7th spot - I get it now, hahahaha ; )))

  • @jimkarakatsanis7640
    @jimkarakatsanis7640 Місяць тому

    Much appreciated

  • @murfenator82
    @murfenator82 2 місяці тому +3

    Steering rack FFB is a good baseline as long as it includes some info on the tire grip at the limit. LMU leaves these forces largely hard to feel and therefore (especially at slow speeds) can be hard to tell where the grip is at times even with all of the forces coming through...

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  2 місяці тому +1

      Yah it depends on the simulator , LMU has utterly usless FFB for actually feeling what the car is doing but becuse it bumps jolts and has strong self aligning along with over the top tug for suspention lots of people think LMU has "the most detailed FFB" ...
      Unfortunately I think without showing somone side by side with a well set up wheel with a sim like AC1 and explaning how the FFB lines up with what the car is doing I don't think they will ever "get it" this is made more muddy by the fact that a person can just memorise a games physics and basically drive with no ffb - but then they are convinced they are driving from the ffb thats going on.

    • @murfenator82
      @murfenator82 2 місяці тому

      @@GamerMuscleVideos When I bring up AC1 FFB in LMU discord most rF2/LMU players say AC1 FFB has "simulated effect" for tire grip and that its not "true" FFB...

    • @awakeandwatching953
      @awakeandwatching953 2 місяці тому

      @@murfenator82 yep they all claim its canned effects despite years ago the devs making it clear the only canned effects were abs and maybe slip every thing else is just boosted from the raw signal

    • @filiposay
      @filiposay 2 місяці тому

      If someone play mostly one game, doesn't matter how good other game will be, always will find that the ffb and physics are wrong in other games cause are not as they like it. The only sim scientifically tested to compare with real driving situations is rf2 (which I almost never played cause find out too late and almost no people to race). Then you have iRacing where many drivers use as practice, but still other drivers don't like the feel and at the end is not scientific is subjective. So say that sim xxx is good because of yyy and other sim is bad because of zzz is more a pub chat than a real fact conversation

  • @AngryAverageGo-Karter
    @AngryAverageGo-Karter 2 місяці тому

    Rfuktor is what I’ve been using, feels great
    Will give this a try later

    • @aprosimracing
      @aprosimracing 2 місяці тому +1

      Me too, and I like it very much! But will give a try on this one. Best!

  • @eritainment3023
    @eritainment3023 2 місяці тому +1

    Dear God, ... I forgot the rest.

  • @guillermoherman3489
    @guillermoherman3489 2 місяці тому +1

    Hello Im sorry for the dumb question what file is the one that you need to write in documents\automobilista2 ?

  • @RalonsoF1
    @RalonsoF1 2 місяці тому

    Dear god I got to the end, I wish I hadn't.

  • @mxracinguy5993
    @mxracinguy5993 2 місяці тому

    Dear God, I made it to the end and it's only morning, too early to have a couple of beers in order to remove the image of his face that's now ingrained in my brain.
    But glad I did as I'm all for experimenting and this here is an interesting tip on an easy to-do tweak. Sounds like it needs better refining though since it appears the wheels vibrates while the car is stationary (haven't tried it yet, just going by what others have said in comments).

    • @hydro5168
      @hydro5168 2 місяці тому +1

      there are more advanced FFB files that adjust stationary force etc etc. this is the most basic a custom FFB file would get for this game

    • @mxracinguy5993
      @mxracinguy5993 2 місяці тому

      @@hydro5168 Good to know, but I do like the idea to start with the most basic one in order to have a baseline. I have my doubts I'd enjoy this better but it'd be a good starting point to experiment with.

  • @mattcwell
    @mattcwell 2 місяці тому +1

    Dear god I got to the end, and wish I hadn’t!

  • @ReadyPlayer1977
    @ReadyPlayer1977 Місяць тому

    I ve done it and it's great!!!
    Any chance to get a similar code fir Assetto Corsa?
    Cheers buddy!!!

  • @Mistermoleymole
    @Mistermoleymole 2 місяці тому +1

    Dear God I got to the end..... I wish I hadn't. For the algo

  • @haydnhamilton8091
    @haydnhamilton8091 2 місяці тому

    This Setting turned my R5 from ice cold to really warm in just a few min .....NEXT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @SocialMeh
      @SocialMeh 2 місяці тому

      yeh bro my r12 started smoking. nah made no difference still at 42deg C and feels so good

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  2 місяці тому

      Thats strange , normally what causes a wheel motor to warm up is if you have lots of forces you then push against or lots of damper for example.
      Maybe your wheel base is clipping and then you are pushing against clipped ffb ? might be worth checking that as that can cause a wheel to overheat quickly.

    • @haydnhamilton8091
      @haydnhamilton8091 2 місяці тому

      @@GamerMuscleVideos thanx for reply, my driving style remains constant no matter what the FFB file change, the settings ive chosen are perfect for the R5 and a shoulder injury, had i got any more power i would struggle to enjoy playing, I learned what clipping was in the 1st hour of using it , dialled that out and its been really nice,been using it like that for last 2 months running ice cold, 2 min with the file and the settings advised and its much hotter, its nowhere near overheating, just an observation

  • @Speedyey
    @Speedyey 2 місяці тому +5

    Tbh, when u setup Forza Motorsport 8, it has amazing FFB. Its the driving alone that keeps me coming back to that game, its so good

  • @NicanX
    @NicanX 9 днів тому

    And where is the link to download this ffb settings?? Thanks

  • @lpcoolee
    @lpcoolee 2 місяці тому +1

    Sorry dude, but I couldn’t see a link to the FFB file in your description. Can you (or anybody) point me to the new custom file please?
    Great video btw! I love the FFB in iRacing, so I’m sure thus will be to my taste

    • @lpcoolee
      @lpcoolee 2 місяці тому +1

      Sorry ignore me. I’ve just seen all I need to do is paste the 5 lines of code into a custom txt file.

  • @carsonpoland
    @carsonpoland 2 місяці тому

    Dear god, where am i?! :) LMU has utterly usless FFB whereas AC1 FFB is top notch...

  • @theviperman3
    @theviperman3 2 місяці тому

    "DEFULT" ? "DEFULY +" ? What??? Lol ... Subscribing :)

  • @SuperslowRacing
    @SuperslowRacing 2 місяці тому +1

    Do the in game FFB sliders still work with this file? Curious what you were setting them at and what you would suggest.

    • @xxTICxxTOCxx
      @xxTICxxTOCxx 2 місяці тому +1

      I have Gain set to personal preference, and everthing else at zero.

    • @rouxf13
      @rouxf13 2 місяці тому +1

      Yes they do, but some like FX tend to over-ride what this setting is trying to do. YMMV.

  • @pixel-pedals
    @pixel-pedals 2 місяці тому +1

    where the download link for the file???? AM I blind??? I cannot see it ...🙂

  • @DVAFP
    @DVAFP 2 місяці тому +1

    this games FFB is absolute shite. i can't even feel when the car start to oversteer on a corner. i hit another car, nothing. i slam against a wall, nothing.

    • @extremeencounter7458
      @extremeencounter7458 2 місяці тому

      Yea I increased the FX to try and increase the feel of slip. Assetto Corsa doesn’t have this problem, BeamNG doesn’t have this problem, ACC etc

  • @jannowak-y6p
    @jannowak-y6p 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey, nice video, but could you put a link to this custom FFB file please?

  • @harf4ng
    @harf4ng Місяць тому

    Wonder in my ams2 why i just have default and custom ffb profiles. I do not have any default+.

  • @eugenkrosus3445
    @eugenkrosus3445 2 місяці тому

    Wait a second, the text to copy into said file is just those four rows in the description?

  • @cdrseabee
    @cdrseabee 2 місяці тому +2

    What's best for DD whee8?

  • @Dual1969
    @Dual1969 2 місяці тому +14

    I don't see a link to the custom FFB file ?

    • @sychrov81
      @sychrov81 2 місяці тому

      ------
      NAME: Rack_Force
      (rack (/ arm_force M_max_force_at_rack))
      (output rack)
      (output (* output gain))
      (histogram output)
      -------

    • @KiliansCreative
      @KiliansCreative 2 місяці тому +3

      @@sychrov81 where do i paste this exactly?

    • @stikupartist3698
      @stikupartist3698 Місяць тому

      ​@@KiliansCreative force feedback file

  • @fredscratchet1355
    @fredscratchet1355 2 місяці тому

    Well I downloaded the file and tried it. I understand what you are saying, it's very simple but somehow gives quite a lot of information back. I was pleasantly surprised also how AMS2 has been updated, the home page and menu is much much cleaner and intuitive than before and I might go back and try it again😄

  • @mauri1570
    @mauri1570 2 місяці тому +4

    Hi, where is the link to download the file? or where is the text to create the .txt?

    • @brettallen2129
      @brettallen2129 2 місяці тому

      Yea, how to download the file

    • @Tripl3Jinx
      @Tripl3Jinx 2 місяці тому

      It's in the description

    • @renefeijen5916
      @renefeijen5916 Місяць тому

      @@Tripl3Jinx Call me stupid but I see no link. I do see the unclickable name Rack_force

    • @Tripl3Jinx
      @Tripl3Jinx Місяць тому

      @renefeijen5916 you copy and paste just what you see
      Rack_Force
      (rack (/ arm_force M_max_force_at_rack))
      (output rack)
      (output (* output gain))
      (histogram output)

  • @DSaw78
    @DSaw78 2 місяці тому

    If I missed it, which wheel are you using? I have a old(er) Simucube 1/small Mige OSW and AMS2 still has those crazy oscillations if I even try to relax my hands on the wheel on a straightaway. A lot of the cars feel a lot better in 1.6 (most downforce cars) but the GT3s still don't feel good to me. I'm going to try this just to see if it helps and/or feels better.

    • @menacegtr
      @menacegtr 2 місяці тому +1

      Let me know how you get on. I also am using an OSW Simucube 1 and bloody love it.

    • @DSaw78
      @DSaw78 2 місяці тому

      @@menacegtr It's better than Default and Default+ but it's still too 'noisy'. Like the wheel starts shaking when sitting in the pits and the engine is idling. I am going to try it again with the in-game gain turned down some more. I switched to the DanielKart profile for DD wheels and it completely killed the crazy oscillations I was getting. I prefer it but I'm not 100% satisfied with it either.

    • @menacegtr
      @menacegtr 2 місяці тому

      @@DSaw78 Will look at that profile. I am generally happy with Default+ but with 20nm on tap, you let go of the wheel it ends not very well, especially if your wheel rim has a cord attached.

    • @DSaw78
      @DSaw78 2 місяці тому

      @@menacegtr Yep, they just don't work well with higher output DDs. I need to message DK about his. The low speed forces (like in a hairpin slow corner) seem too high in comparison to the forces in a high speed sweeping corner. It also seems to depend on what type of car I'm driving as well.

    • @menacegtr
      @menacegtr 2 місяці тому +1

      @@DSaw78 Any good advise my friend please let me know. Its nice someone else has one of these power hungry beasts.

  • @Jupurgepen
    @Jupurgepen 2 місяці тому +1

    What about the MOZA Pithouse settings?

  • @CarlParnellCoach
    @CarlParnellCoach 2 місяці тому

    Applied this and it works great, however at high speeds with a simgic alpha U, is anyone else experiencing a loose, loud charring sensation in the feedback?
    I get that usually if the FX is too, but even with everything off I still experience it and it sounds like it’s not doing my wheelbase any good

  • @rouxf13
    @rouxf13 2 місяці тому

    Deafult + is ok but it felt mushy to me, this feels pretty good so far. I'm a weirdo who likes iRacing FFB (at the 360hz version) and this feels similar.

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  2 місяці тому

      iRacings FFB is nice and direct , unfortunately it's let down by the tire model and physics which is why it ends up not really being as helpful as it should be.
      In iracing once you get to limit and over the tires get stuck over the limit so the ffb as well will stay light and not come back.
      I used to blame the ffb in iracing but I'm 99% sure it's the physics which makes me really hopeful for how iracing will feel and drive with the new tire developments they plan to launch next year.
      I do think games like iracing can benefit from some form of seat of the pants feel / yaw feel but it has to be subtle so it doesn't override other aspects of FFB.
      The 360hz just means the ffb will not need as much interp to be smooth and FFB will not miss out track bumps maybe can initiate a change in direction faster.
      But on grand scheme of things I can't see how ffb over 100hz fundamentally impacts the forces used to determine tire grip.

    • @rouxf13
      @rouxf13 2 місяці тому

      @@GamerMuscleVideos Agreed - I think the prime benefit of the 360hz in iRacing is simply responsiveness - my understanding is it's actually still 60hz but delivering 4 60hz packages at a time, so it's not necessarily better or cleaner but does have more 'info' for the time segment it's responding to. I still find that the way iRacing (and AC) communicate things like weight transfer under braking or rotation due to braking (in a car like the MX-5 Cup) is very good, but with this FFB file AMS2 is way less - uh - slushy I guess? It feels more like what I'm used to. Doesn't change any of the physics/tire model issues - just like iRacing FFB doesn't help with tire limit issues - but just feels better. Enjoying 1.6 a lot.

  • @truantray
    @truantray 2 місяці тому +3

    I'd like to see a video about the rear brake bug that has been an issue since PC2. I've had many races ruined thinking it was my fault and this is the only channel that acknowledges the issue with late race rear brakes randomly failing.
    As for 1.6, ok, physics are improved, but AI are patchy and worse.

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  2 місяці тому +3

      I'm not sure if its neccecerly a bug i think its just tires being more prone to locking up due to a multitude of factors , but then no real FFB for it or no real warning only way to really know would be for somone to brake down telemetary to see if it is indeed a bug or something else.

    • @tbainbridge
      @tbainbridge 2 місяці тому

      Yep, it's like the tyres simply melt in late race, getting hard to control.

    • @ezpz4659
      @ezpz4659 2 місяці тому +1

      @@tbainbridge adjust your driving. Try not to go to much past the slip angle.

  • @eka.w4227
    @eka.w4227 2 місяці тому

    im 2k hours on ac... im feel amazed ams2 ffb feeling

  • @stealthking1269
    @stealthking1269 2 місяці тому

    I am finding that at the centre, the steering feels extreme light and then when you take corners or turn the wheel and the ffb kicks in, its almost quite violent compared to the very light centre position......... is the correct or have I done something wrong. (Running on Simagic Alpha)

  • @thorstenwanoth6774
    @thorstenwanoth6774 2 місяці тому

    Got stuck on GT Legends, GTR2 and later P&G starting back in 2006. We editing player files here?

  • @andyrachy
    @andyrachy 2 місяці тому

    Dear God I got to the End. I wish I hadn't

  • @FullFledged2010
    @FullFledged2010 2 місяці тому

    Actually you do have a lot more information with a good motion rig. accaration, deceleration wheel slip. bumps. the moment you hit a curb and even the amount braking and acceleration if you have a 6 dof rig setup for combined surge and pitch. But it matters how you set it up. I'm not saying my motion rig is better than anyone else's but I honestly don't need much wheel FFB information when I'm driving with motion. 🤷‍♂

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  2 місяці тому

      Yes I have played AMS2 on a few high end motion rigs and rigs I have helped set up , the problem is no consumer motion rig offers the detail for sustained load that is required to drive from at a higher level ( even air pressure pad systems / physical) as a result the best thing to do with a motion rig is to just set it up super precise and minimal and to replicate suspension motion , it does help with feeling car be light over crests bumps and other details but that's all stuff you can learn with a wheel anyway and ultimately the underlying grip feel can all come from a wheel.
      I have yet to meet a real world fast / professional race driver that ever liked a rig with a ton of movement or E-sports or very fast simracer that likes it.
      I think Traction loss systems can be interesting , but again they have issues with RESET and faster Cars and also false information and then seatbelt tensioners can also be interesting but they simply don't have the resolution and response needed for the fast changes in grip with a slick tire on faster cars for a person to use it to directly drive from.

  • @ricardomaya2001
    @ricardomaya2001 2 місяці тому

    My only issue is that with this i dont feel the Kerbs. Is there a way to add that ?

  • @Tripl3Jinx
    @Tripl3Jinx 2 місяці тому

    Did you change any of the Gain or FX setting when using the custom or keep them the same?

    • @GamerMuscleVideos
      @GamerMuscleVideos  2 місяці тому +2

      FX on 0 , gain just set for each car

    • @Scalibur_Greg
      @Scalibur_Greg 2 місяці тому +1

      @@GamerMuscleVideos What about damping? Is there a solution for the mega oscilations when the car is not going anywhere? 😅

    • @mclane78
      @mclane78 2 місяці тому

      ​@@Scalibur_Greg- my solution: ignition and pedal to the metal! 😜

  • @ograndelauro
    @ograndelauro 2 місяці тому

    Anyone knows how to contact Alex ? I like a lot this ffb, only missing the braking scrub fx, just want to add that to the file

  • @MAILERS1
    @MAILERS1 2 місяці тому

    I’ve given it blast and it’s pretty good but I seem to have lost all feeling on braking. The rest of it is good but it’s just numb when braking hard!!

  • @glinx1
    @glinx1 2 місяці тому

    Forgive my ignorance but is there supposed to be a download able link in the description? I'm a bit confused here. Really wanna try this.

    • @geologik7500
      @geologik7500 2 місяці тому

      No. It's just text you need to copy and place into ffb_custom_settings text file. Save a copy so you back up the original and then just paste the text from the description in. It's like 4 lines.

    • @glinx1
      @glinx1 Місяць тому

      ​@@geologik7500 so I copy the few lines under "Name: Rack_Force"?
      Do I need to include the name as well?
      Thanks.