Miracles with Marty’s wonderful voice and tongue in cheek background vocals might be the only Starship song I like (other than Kantner’s Blows Against the Empire album, which was great).
@@L33Reacts Making out in the back of my 70’ Chevelle with a beautiful young girl listening to miracles when it was a new song is a top five life memory. 17 years old. My favorite year! She broke my heart later, but that doesn’t really matter now to the memory.
The late Marty Balin was always my favorite vocalist among any iteration of the Airplane/Starship lineups. His voice was just so smooth. Another great track with Balin on lead vocals is “Count On Me.”
I knew Lee would be taken in by 'Miracles'. It had the same effect on me the first time I heard it, and went out and bought the Red Octopus album, which I still have. The really hard part about all of this is that it was almost 50 years ago!
Two great songs from what I would say is their greatest album run of 4 albums (Dragon Fly (1974) - Earth (1978), “Red Octopus” and “Spitfire”. RIP Marty...
Marty's voice has always hit straight to the soul for me. Another gorgeous song that features his lead vocal is "Comin Back to Me" from Jefferson Airplane.
Lee, "Comin Back to Me" is SO beautiful and poetic, that even Ricki Lee Jones did a cover version of it.... Oooh, maybe that would make for a good twoofer reaction...😉
I was friends with Marty later in his life and worked on numerous projects with him and continue to do so with his widow, He was a creative force who worked in many different media and an important figure in the San Francisco sound.
Ooh, Miracles was on my list to request! Marty Balin knew how to write a ballad. The others didn't like his 'ballad-ey' stuff. Too bad for them. I was going to do Miracles and Count on Me - both just gorgeous Marty Balin-penned and sung songs. Thanks Joel!
His words and his voice were never lost on me. There is also a part of Miracles that miraculously made it past the censors. I'm also a sap for some good old fashioned love songs for example "It's No Secret" from Jefferson Airplane Takes Off and "Today" from Surrealistic Pillow
One night with perfect weather, my late wife & I were both half in the bag from barhopping. I played Miracles for her. When the line: “when I start dancing inside you” she abruptly got up and said “can we please play something less mushy?” “How about some Ramones or Bauhaus or Thrill Kill Cult.” Jefferson Starship had the strangest bassist & keyboard relationship. Both musicians would swap on like every other song.
An Airplane became a Starship with a few personnel changes and a more streamlined sound, but every bit as good, if less raw. (Oh, and one of Papa Creech's more well known works. He was featured heavily on the previous album Dragonfly. )
Miracles is a great song, Marty's voice is so amazing. About Jefferson Starship...4 years before the band formed, Paul Kantner did a solo album called "Blows Against the Empire" and used the name Jefferson Starship, which is something separate from the later group. It's an amazing concept album which included members of Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Crosby Still & Nash and some others
The defining characteristic of Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson Starship and Starship is Grace Slick. Such a powerhouse of talent over the years. Her voice combined with Marty Balin and the chorus that the other members of the band created is an incredible litany of songs. It's a deep dive, enjoy
I love this song so much, the layers, the build up and the harmonies. I still can't believe it was played on AM radio because of the lyrics, lol. "I got a taste of the real world, (don't waste a drop of it) when I went down on you girl" Great reaction! I love" With Your Love" too. Such good memories....
I enjoyed every iteration of this band because I found some great songs from them all. I really enjoyed Marty Balin’s singing too. These two tunes are top notch. Keep up the good work with the reviews.
Starship was a successful commercial move by them toward the popular mainstream but a huge artistic step down from Jefferson Airplane IMO. These are good songs and well-produced and they feature Marty but without the musical heart and soul of the band, Jorma, Jack, and Spencer. With those three they were one of a kind
@@L33Reacts Yes, Miracles got tons of airplay. A Big Hit. Marty was spotlighted which he deserved. Danika :"Nooooo!!" Hey, I wouldn't want to be locked in a cage either :)
@L33Reacts Agree. The thing with Jefferson Starship (and later Starship - they changed their name a third time by dropping "Jefferson") is that they produced some good to great music, but they also put out a bunch of garbage. Generally speaking, the later stuff is worse, although there are some exceptions. Jefferson Airplane (mainly) made great albums. Jefferson Starship not so much. Many (most?) of their albums have a bunch of forgettable filler tracks.
you no doubt realize that "Miracles" is rock's "Bolero". It is an unfolding love making session. Slowly building, until the moment is achieved. Then relaxing into a blissful afterglow. Not coincidental, or accidental, but by design.
Miracles is one of my main jams from back in the day. The nostalgia runs deep with this one, the memories never go away with every note and word. Takes me to a whole other realm - I'm so glad I was around when this was new. Damn good!
Speaking of Craig on lead guitar… check out their hit “Jane”. He kills it on that song. It is a straight up rock banger and includes Mickey Thomas on lead vocals and Aynsley Dunbar on drums.
You should hear the album Blows Against the Empire - Jefferson Starship by Paul Kantner and Grace Slick, especially the song Have you Seen the Stars Tonight.
Nailed it. The Starship/Airplane was a Bay Area staple for so long, their fans got a little jaded but the proof is in the pudding with these songs. You're getting pretty good at this little bro.
@L33Reacts I think I liked With Your Love more then Miracles is because the radio station's played it to death, back then they would play the popular song's over and over till the point I got sick of them. I like a lot of them now but I think that's why I've always been a deep track person. I wished you happy Birthday on a couple reactions but if you didn't see them, Happy Birthday, Bud. I know this was a big one for you but you'll have many more. You're really a great guy that I could probably talk with for hours. You're doing a great job and your reactions make my day!
In the late 70's, the story goes that Starship had a meeting with RCA Records executives in Hollywood. There were about a dozen people seated around the table when someone pulled out a half gram of coke. The mirror was passed to Grace Slick who immediately hoovered up the entire amount. Looking up and seeing the astonishment on their faces she said " Hey - better that one person get high than nobody!"
Craig played guitar with Santana earlier in his career. I heard them in concert at Saratoga in 1975, and immediately thought of Santana when Craig took his first solo. Starship was a more "Grown Up" sound than Airplane.1975 was when music was changing, new directions, some good, some bad...
Beautiful song. Marty’s gift for writing romantic ballads is amazing. At the time I thought this was too soft and commercial but it was my gf favorite song, I was too immature at the time to appreciate this song or my gf for that matter. Thanks for this one. It’s special for a lot of people.
They toured this album (Red Octopus) on a double bill with Fleetwood Mac in '76... Took turns opening. Saw it in New Haven shortly before leaving for Air Force basic.
Jefferson Starship had a lot of good songs. I don't any problems with the early stuff. They brought another singer later that I do not care for. Another great track is Runaway. Other great songs were Ride the Tiger, Fast Buck Freddie and Count on Me.
"Miracles" takes me away Marty Balin's voice just touches my heart Just found out we have the same bday ( not the year 😉) RIP Marty Balin I know you're in Rock & Roll Heaven jamming with all the other Legends As a Reactor Lee I love that you follow your own instincts. Your appreciation and genuine curiosity about learning all you can about all the greats of the 60s 70s etc is not unnoticed. Keep following your own Drummer 🥁 .....pun intended 🎵💜🎵✌️🎶
Well happy belated bday, my friend! I'm glad you are here. Thank you for the kind words 🙏 😊 I can't wait to hear more from them! I have another twofer coming from them soon.
"I had a taste of the real world (Just a drop of it) When I went down on you girl..." Radio stations rarely play this version it's always the "PG" version that gets airplay; prudes.
I grew up on this 70's Starship, but my favorites are the early 80s rock Starship with Save Your Love, Winds of Change, Familiar Stranger, and later stuff is pop-fluff.
Paul Kantner, Marty Balin and Grace Slick (mainly Paul) took Jefferson Airplane into Jefferson Starship when the Airplane lost their lead guitarist, bassist and drummer. the Airplane were much heavier and political than the Starship were. Jefferson Starship morphed again when Marty and Grace left and Mickey Thomas took over lead vocals. Grace returned later and eventually Paul left and took the name Jefferson with him leaving just the name Starship. Drama, drama, drama.
Since you mentioned the Latin flavor you heard in both songs, consider checking out the song “Alone Again Or” by Love (if you haven’t already). I sometimes refer to it as “psychedelic mariachi,” but in reality you’ll hear elements of Spanish flamenco in addition to mariachi. It’s just a sublime mix of sounds and genres.
@@L33Reacts I’m somewhat new here so I wasn’t sure if you’d heard it. Doing a quick YT search it looks like you reacted to a different song by Love 4 months ago but not this one.
I love Miracles, which is so sexy, and I like the second song. Don't react to "We Built This City," because you might like it, like most people did when it was first released, before you begin to loath it, like most people came to do after hearing it on the radio for the hundredth time. On these two songs, however, Craig Chaquico is a beautiful guitar player, who went on to have a solo career, making guitar driven, instrumental, World Music that I really got into in the late '90s and early '00s. His music is all instrumental, so it probably wouldn't work well on a reaction channel, like yours L33, but you might really enjoy listening to him while working around the house, as background music. 😀👍
@@L33Reacts my pleasure. You should probably start with his first album, Acoustic Planet, which shows off his amazing acoustic skills, before moving on to his other albums, which move even farther into the World Music genre, with wonderful results.
Obviously Starship consisted of a few J Airplane members and additions while a few others dropped out. Several of Marty's songs were radio friendly whereas Paul Kantner's were more edgy, many focused on space related themes and others graced politics. My top 3 favorite Airplane songs are "Have You Seen The Saucers", "Crown of Creation" and "Mexico". My favorite Starship songs are "Ride the Tiger", "Alien" and "Caroline". There are several side projects by different band members that are gems to behold (KBC band, Baron Von Tollbooth, "Blows Against the Empire", Sunfighter, etc.) just to name a few.
I felt scornful towards Jefferson Starship for abandoning their hippieness when I heard Miracles being played so much all the time on the radio. I thought it was a sappy song and never liked it. Hearing it again now for the first time since then is a different experience. I am surprised that I like it. Miracles is a pretty, song, sung nicely. As pointed out by fellow listeners, there are some sensual lyrics, too, which I never noticed before.
Love Marty Balins ❤️ if you want to hear Jefferson Starship Rock out….. Mickey Thomas takes over for Marty and produce “Jane” & “Find Your Way Back” borderline Metal ❤️🎸🔥 both were played heavily on FM Rock radio 1979-81 here in Boston ☘️☘️☘️
Red Octopus is a really good album, evey song - the Starship was a 180 from the hard blues Airplane sound driven by Jorma & Casady - and sure after Red Octopus alot of Airplane fans did not like the more pop Starship sound - and they had Hot Tuna with Jorma & Casady to fall back on.
These songs are timeless classics no doubt, but dude.... (lol) you gotta check out "Jane", "Find your way back", & "Ride the Tiger"! It's like listening to a completely different band. 👊 😉🎸
The first 4 Jefferson Starship album covers were inspired by Paul Kantner's interest in Chinese culture. Each of the album titles refers to an Element: Red Octopus (Water), Spitfire (Fire), Dragon Fly (Air), and Earth. I am not a fan of ballads and when "Miracles" came out, I hated it because it was played all the time! Jefferson Starship had some good songs (I rate overall a 7), but Starship was a big fat zero because Mickey Thomas made it a vanity project, especially after going to court with Paul Kantner. The only Jefferson Starship album I like is "Blows Against the Empire". This was a Paul Kantner project. The second side of the album is Paul's mini space opera which was nominated for an award. Grace Slick did two albums in collaboration with Paul which are great and four solo albums (they vary in genre).
@@L33Reacts When Marty Balin left the group Mickey Thomas (lead singer on Elvin Bishops "Fooled Around And Fell In Love") joined the group and their sound became more pop/arena rock and eventually dropped the "Jefferson" part of their name and became just "Starship". Still some good stuff (some cheezy stuff too! LOL) but I prefer the earlier two versions. Most bands change eventually. Usually due to personnel changes. Mickey Thomas, like Marty Balin, also has a tremendous voice. Red Octopus has some very different styles of music on it. The type of album you would listen to the whole thing in one sitting.
Good songs though their best and u serrated tune is St. Charles with the best vocals and excellent instrumentals!Lee there is a part of this song that they could not put on the radio.i believe the critical comments are most likely when they changed some members again and then called themselves Starship not Jefferson Starship and without Marty!
It's called knowing who is playing what. I'm looking at a list of the people playing. And its impossible to focus on EVERYTHING on your first listen. I get it just fine.
Marty Balin is massively under appreciated.
Hearts is probably my favorite song of his.
Finally, a reaction channel with both the smarts and guts to take on the Airplane/Starship.
"Miracles" was a goddamn Miracle. That was awesome.
Great song. Octopus was a really good record.
Miracles with Marty’s wonderful voice and tongue in cheek background vocals might be the only Starship song I like (other than Kantner’s Blows Against the Empire album, which was great).
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Making out in the back of my 70’ Chevelle with a beautiful young girl listening to miracles when it was a new song is a top five life memory. 17 years old. My favorite year! She broke my heart later, but that doesn’t really matter now to the memory.
This song is a masterpiece in my mind.
The bass, the keys , the strings, everything in Miracles was just perfect!
It is perfect. One of the best songs ever.
The late Marty Balin was always my favorite vocalist among any iteration of the Airplane/Starship lineups. His voice was just so smooth. Another great track with Balin on lead vocals is “Count On Me.”
yeah his voice is fantastic. such a great fit. he's a great writer too!
I knew Lee would be taken in by 'Miracles'. It had the same effect on me the first time I heard it, and went out and bought the Red Octopus album, which I still have. The really hard part about all of this is that it was almost 50 years ago!
@@jaycorby it seems impossible that nearly 50 years have passed!
@@allisonreed7682 yes I refuse to believe it’s 50 years ago. Marty was just beautiful.
@@Hartlor_Tayley he truly was!
Miracles is such a vibe. Once is not enough.
Two great songs from what I would say is their greatest album run of 4 albums (Dragon Fly (1974) - Earth (1978), “Red Octopus” and “Spitfire”. RIP Marty...
Awesome voices. Love this group.
Marty's voice has always hit straight to the soul for me.
Another gorgeous song that features his lead vocal is "Comin Back to Me" from Jefferson Airplane.
awesome, thank you for the suggestion. i really enjoy marty's vocals here too. they are gorgeous at points!
Lee, "Comin Back to Me" is SO beautiful and poetic, that even Ricki Lee Jones did a cover version of it....
Oooh, maybe that would make for a good twoofer reaction...😉
Runaway is another great one with Marty on vocals.
I was friends with Marty later in his life and worked on numerous projects with him and continue to do so with his widow, He was a creative force who worked in many different media and an important figure in the San Francisco sound.
Ooh, Miracles was on my list to request! Marty Balin knew how to write a ballad. The others didn't like his 'ballad-ey' stuff. Too bad for them. I was going to do Miracles and Count on Me - both just gorgeous Marty Balin-penned and sung songs.
Thanks Joel!
His words and his voice were never lost on me. There is also a part of Miracles that miraculously made it past the censors. I'm also a sap for some good old fashioned love songs for example "It's No Secret" from Jefferson Airplane Takes Off and "Today" from Surrealistic Pillow
@@yankeeboyno7 Is this the long version (I hope)?
I like those two songs of theirs too. Love Marty's vocals, and songwriting. :)
if this wasn't the long version, i can only imagine lol
@@yankeeboyno7 - Those two might be my fave old Airplane songs! Crazy good memories!
@@L33Reacts It was! I'm sure the radio edit took out the 'dirty' bits lmao!
this was the track playing when my fellow teens were in the back seat of the car exploring adulthood . . . (high school' 73 - '76)
"If only you believed....." hahaha i can only imagine
This song and "Jane" are my favorites by JS. "Jane" will blow you out of your chair. Thanks for the reaction!!
Miracles was all over the radio when it came out. The single verion was AM radio friendly.
A whole lotta babies got made to "Miracles" back in the day...
Heard Miracles a millions times. Such a huge hit in it's day. "With Your Love" got it's share of air time too. 2 winners today. Rock on L33.
One night with perfect weather, my late wife & I were both half in the bag from barhopping. I played Miracles for her.
When the line: “when I start dancing inside you” she abruptly got up and said “can we please play something less mushy?” “How about some Ramones or Bauhaus or Thrill Kill Cult.”
Jefferson Starship had the strangest bassist & keyboard relationship. Both musicians would swap on like every other song.
An Airplane became a Starship with a few personnel changes and a more streamlined sound, but every bit as good, if less raw. (Oh, and one of Papa Creech's more well known works. He was featured heavily on the previous album Dragonfly. )
Many great songs. My faves aside from "Miracles" include "Ride The Tiger", "Count On Me", "Runaway", and "Jane".
Saint Charles too
Miracles is a great song, Marty's voice is so amazing. About Jefferson Starship...4 years before the band formed, Paul Kantner did a solo album called "Blows Against the Empire" and used the name Jefferson Starship, which is something separate from the later group. It's an amazing concept album which included members of Jefferson Airplane, The Grateful Dead, Crosby Still & Nash and some others
Wow how did I miss this I love Miracles that would have been one of my pics great great song I Love It❤
His voice 🎇
The defining characteristic of Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson Starship and Starship is Grace Slick. Such a powerhouse of talent over the years. Her voice combined with Marty Balin and the chorus that the other members of the band created is an incredible litany of songs. It's a deep dive, enjoy
I love this song so much, the layers, the build up and the harmonies. I still can't believe it was played on AM radio because of the lyrics, lol. "I got a taste of the real world, (don't waste a drop of it) when I went down on you girl" Great reaction! I love" With Your Love" too. Such good memories....
I enjoyed every iteration of this band because I found some great songs from them all. I really enjoyed Marty Balin’s singing too. These two tunes are top notch. Keep up the good work with the reviews.
"Miracles" is a great track!. My wife told me that everyone in high school back then wore a Jefferson Starship shirt! 🙂
Two of my favorites, enjoy
Starship was a successful commercial move by them toward the popular mainstream but a huge artistic step down from Jefferson Airplane IMO. These are good songs and well-produced and they feature Marty but without the musical heart and soul of the band, Jorma, Jack, and Spencer. With those three they were one of a kind
i agree this is a more commercial direction but i feel it still has it's merit. that first track was fantastic.
@@L33Reacts Yes, Miracles got tons of airplay. A Big Hit. Marty was spotlighted which he deserved. Danika :"Nooooo!!" Hey, I wouldn't want to be locked in a cage either :)
@L33Reacts Agree. The thing with Jefferson Starship (and later Starship - they changed their name a third time by dropping "Jefferson") is that they produced some good to great music, but they also put out a bunch of garbage. Generally speaking, the later stuff is worse, although there are some exceptions. Jefferson Airplane (mainly) made great albums. Jefferson Starship not so much. Many (most?) of their albums have a bunch of forgettable filler tracks.
you no doubt realize that "Miracles" is rock's "Bolero". It is an unfolding love making session. Slowly building, until the moment is achieved. Then relaxing into a blissful afterglow. Not coincidental, or accidental, but by design.
Miracles is one of my main jams from back in the day. The nostalgia runs deep with this one, the memories never go away with every note and word. Takes me to a whole other realm - I'm so glad I was around when this was new. Damn good!
Jane is a must...starship
Starship-St. Charles, Airplane-Today, personal favs
I still have this vinyl, Red Octopus, in my record collection. Growing up this song was on repeat in my house.
Speaking of Craig on lead guitar… check out their hit “Jane”. He kills it on that song. It is a straight up rock banger and includes Mickey Thomas on lead vocals and Aynsley Dunbar on drums.
Red Octopus was a great album!
another 2 great selections, reminds me of my bar days in the mid to late 70's
Awesome listen / reaction as always. Check out their song “Jane” great vocal, guitar etc
You should hear the album Blows Against the Empire - Jefferson Starship by Paul Kantner and Grace Slick, especially the song Have you Seen the Stars Tonight.
Try “Ride the Tiger & Saint Charles” two really good Jefferson Starship tunes!
With your Love was so smooth and soothing. Great picks once again, Joel :)
blows against the empire although technically not a Jefferson Starship album the musicians on the album are a collection of my favourites
I was a very virginal 12-year-old geek when the edited single of "Miracles" was on the radio. Even then I could feel how sexy it was.
Great Album!
You have to listen to Jane by Starship with Mickey Thomas on lead vocals. Mickey was the singer on Fooled Around and Fell in Love by Elvin Bishop.
Grace was there the whole time!
Nailed it. The Starship/Airplane was a Bay Area staple for so long, their fans got a little jaded but the proof is in the pudding with these songs. You're getting pretty good at this little bro.
Thank you for this, Lee. With your Love is such a beautiful song and Marty Balin has one of my favorite voices in music.
I'm glad you enjoyed, my friend. I love his voice too. I have more starship coming soon too!
@L33Reacts I think I liked With Your Love more then Miracles is because the radio station's played it to death, back then they would play the popular song's over and over till the point I got sick of them. I like a lot of them now but I think that's why I've always been a deep track person. I wished you happy Birthday on a couple reactions but if you didn't see them, Happy Birthday, Bud. I know this was a big one for you but you'll have many more. You're really a great guy that I could probably talk with for hours. You're doing a great job and your reactions make my day!
In the late 70's, the story goes that Starship had a meeting with RCA Records executives in Hollywood. There were about a dozen people seated around the table when someone pulled out a half gram of coke. The mirror was passed to Grace Slick who immediately hoovered up the entire amount. Looking up and seeing the astonishment on their faces she said " Hey - better that one person get high than nobody!"
L O L that is hilarious. Grace was the best.
One of the best tracks of the seventies. Amazing in many levels and it was a big hit too.
Craig played guitar with Santana earlier in his career. I heard them in concert at Saratoga in 1975, and immediately thought of Santana when Craig took his first solo. Starship was a more "Grown Up" sound than Airplane.1975 was when music was changing, new directions, some good, some bad...
Chaquico was well known for years in the Bay Area for his tasty licks and jazzy new age guitar style
@@jimmoore8951 I was definitely impressed with his playing!
That was nice. Two popular love songs from the Starship.
Try Jane, another big hit
Arguably, the most sensuous song ever.
I adore Miracles. Check out Ride the Tiger
Beautiful song. Marty’s gift for writing romantic ballads is amazing. At the time I thought this was too soft and commercial but it was my gf favorite song, I was too immature at the time to appreciate this song or my gf for that matter. Thanks for this one. It’s special for a lot of people.
Runaway and Love Too Good
They toured this album (Red Octopus) on a double bill with Fleetwood Mac in '76... Took turns opening. Saw it in New Haven shortly before leaving for Air Force basic.
Thanks Joel! Great pick! Just what I needed to hear today. Thanks Lee for giving us to a place to rehear the music we've forgotten. ☮🎶❤
glad to be of service, my friend. joel has the best picks! he knows his stuff. like all of the patreon community for the most part!
Miracles is a beautiful love song. Now how did that line get past the censors? 😂
I’ve always wondered 😆🤭
i have no idea. and i'm glad I have y'all, cuz like those dumb censors, i didnt notice either! Lol
The lead guitarist's name id pronounced Cha-key-so. If you want to listen to him really tear into a solo, check out Ride the Tiger.
Hot Tuna the other spin-off from Jefferson airplane along with Papa John creach are the better band in my opinion.
Your typical San Francisco Sound
Love Miracles. A little x rated for the times. ❤😮😊
Jefferson Starship's "Jane" will knock you out, bro. It's what R&R is all about.
True. I forgot about Jane. A good rocker.
Jefferson Starship had a lot of good songs. I don't any problems with the early stuff. They brought another singer later that I do not care for. Another great track is Runaway. Other great songs were Ride the Tiger, Fast Buck Freddie and Count on Me.
awesome thank you for the suggestions! i'm totally down for more of this!
"Miracles" takes me away Marty Balin's voice just touches my heart
Just found out we have the same bday ( not the year 😉)
RIP Marty Balin I know you're in Rock & Roll Heaven jamming with all the other Legends
As a Reactor Lee I love that you follow your own instincts. Your appreciation and genuine curiosity about learning all you can about all the greats of the 60s 70s etc is not unnoticed.
Keep following your own Drummer 🥁 .....pun intended
🎵💜🎵✌️🎶
Well happy belated bday, my friend! I'm glad you are here. Thank you for the kind words 🙏 😊 I can't wait to hear more from them! I have another twofer coming from them soon.
@@L33Reacts you're so welcome.
Love and Music Always 🎶 🎵 ✌️🤘💜
"I had a taste of the real world
(Just a drop of it)
When I went down on you girl..."
Radio stations rarely play this version it's always the "PG" version that gets airplay; prudes.
I grew up on this 70's Starship, but my favorites are the early 80s rock Starship with Save Your Love, Winds of Change, Familiar Stranger, and later stuff is pop-fluff.
it happens to the best of them. eventually money talks and art walks.
Paul Kantner, Marty Balin and Grace Slick (mainly Paul) took Jefferson Airplane into Jefferson Starship when the Airplane lost their lead guitarist, bassist and drummer. the Airplane were much heavier and political than the Starship were. Jefferson Starship morphed again when Marty and Grace left and Mickey Thomas took over lead vocals. Grace returned later and eventually Paul left and took the name Jefferson with him leaving just the name Starship. Drama, drama, drama.
Since you mentioned the Latin flavor you heard in both songs, consider checking out the song “Alone Again Or” by Love (if you haven’t already). I sometimes refer to it as “psychedelic mariachi,” but in reality you’ll hear elements of Spanish flamenco in addition to mariachi. It’s just a sublime mix of sounds and genres.
that sounds amazing. i need to hear it now lol.
@@L33Reacts I’m somewhat new here so I wasn’t sure if you’d heard it. Doing a quick YT search it looks like you reacted to a different song by Love 4 months ago but not this one.
Oh and I haven’t fact-checked this but I believe the only percussion is castanets. At least that’s what it sounds like.
He needs to do the whole album. Forever Changes. But track one would be good, Alone Again Or.
@@blitztim6416 yes, a full-album reaction would be great!
These two get heavy play in the car
Joel is the boss man! 😀
I love Miracles, which is so sexy, and I like the second song. Don't react to "We Built This City," because you might like it, like most people did when it was first released, before you begin to loath it, like most people came to do after hearing it on the radio for the hundredth time.
On these two songs, however, Craig Chaquico is a beautiful guitar player, who went on to have a solo career, making guitar driven, instrumental, World Music that I really got into in the late '90s and early '00s. His music is all instrumental, so it probably wouldn't work well on a reaction channel, like yours L33, but you might really enjoy listening to him while working around the house, as background music. 😀👍
i'll have to check him out on my own time. i love instrumental stuff, so i will check it out. thank you, my friend.
@@L33Reacts my pleasure. You should probably start with his first album, Acoustic Planet, which shows off his amazing acoustic skills, before moving on to his other albums, which move even farther into the World Music genre, with wonderful results.
Need to go back to their Jefferson Hot Air Balloon days.. 😎
LOL thats great!
I wish more band would change their names as their members change....
Gotta do Airplanes Surrealistic Pillow album. Every song is different and really really good. Essential 1967
Obviously Starship consisted of a few J Airplane members and additions while a few others dropped out. Several of Marty's songs were radio friendly whereas Paul Kantner's were more edgy, many focused on space related themes and others graced politics.
My top 3 favorite Airplane songs are "Have You Seen The Saucers", "Crown of Creation" and "Mexico". My favorite Starship songs are "Ride the Tiger", "Alien" and "Caroline". There are several side projects by different band members that are gems to behold (KBC band, Baron Von Tollbooth, "Blows Against the Empire", Sunfighter, etc.) just to name a few.
I felt scornful towards Jefferson Starship for abandoning their hippieness when I heard Miracles being played so much all the time on the radio. I thought it was a sappy song and never liked it. Hearing it again now for the first time since then is a different experience. I am surprised that I like it. Miracles is a pretty, song, sung nicely. As pointed out by fellow listeners, there are some sensual lyrics, too, which I never noticed before.
Thank you, Lee and Joel! These songs are good!
Love Marty Balins ❤️ if you want to hear Jefferson Starship Rock out….. Mickey Thomas takes over for Marty and produce “Jane” & “Find Your Way Back” borderline Metal ❤️🎸🔥 both were played heavily on FM Rock radio 1979-81 here in Boston ☘️☘️☘️
It's live so maybe you can't use it, but since you liked Miracles, don't miss "Jefferson Starship - Jane
ConcertsOnVEVO" on ytube. Marty excels.
Red Octopus is a really good album, evey song - the Starship was a 180 from the hard blues Airplane sound driven by Jorma & Casady - and sure after Red Octopus alot of Airplane fans did not like the more pop Starship sound - and they had Hot Tuna with Jorma & Casady to fall back on.
Tumblin’ is still another top favorite from that album.
These songs are timeless classics no doubt, but dude.... (lol) you gotta check out "Jane", "Find your way back", & "Ride the Tiger"! It's like listening to a completely different band. 👊 😉🎸
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glad you enjoyed my friend!
You should try Count on Me
Check out Crown of Creation by the Airplane.
The first 4 Jefferson Starship album covers were inspired by Paul Kantner's interest in Chinese culture. Each of the album titles refers to an Element: Red Octopus (Water), Spitfire (Fire), Dragon Fly (Air), and Earth. I am not a fan of ballads and when "Miracles" came out, I hated it because it was played all the time! Jefferson Starship had some good songs (I rate overall a 7), but Starship was a big fat zero because Mickey Thomas made it a vanity project, especially after going to court with Paul Kantner.
The only Jefferson Starship album I like is "Blows Against the Empire". This was a Paul Kantner project. The second side of the album is Paul's mini space opera which was nominated for an award.
Grace Slick did two albums in collaboration with Paul which are great and four solo albums (they vary in genre).
Anything with Balin and Slick is a winner! the rest was crap! my opinion! I'm in the original members of Airplane club!
Also, this is music from Bay Area in the 1970s. So it's not everyone's cup of tea.
i get it. i totally dig it. i love the mix of styles here. they blend perfectly.
I don't live anywhere near the Bay Area, but I've always dug this sound.
There's early Jefferson Starship and later Jefferson Starship. I prefer the earlier version.
ahhh ok so there was a divide eventually. i get it. i really enjoyed these but who knows what the later stuff will bring lol
@@L33Reacts When Marty Balin left the group Mickey Thomas (lead singer on Elvin Bishops "Fooled Around And Fell In Love") joined the group and their sound became more pop/arena rock and eventually dropped the "Jefferson" part of their name and became just "Starship". Still some good stuff (some cheezy stuff too! LOL) but I prefer the earlier two versions. Most bands change eventually. Usually due to personnel changes. Mickey Thomas, like Marty Balin, also has a tremendous voice. Red Octopus has some very different styles of music on it. The type of album you would listen to the whole thing in one sitting.
Good songs though their best and u serrated tune is St. Charles with the best vocals and excellent instrumentals!Lee there is a part of this song that they could not put on the radio.i believe the critical comments are most likely when they changed some members again and then called themselves Starship not Jefferson Starship and without Marty!
White Rabbit is my favorite, but Miracles is great too. Some other good ones are Save Your Love, Find Your Way Back and Sara
i love white rabbit! every drug addict knows that one! Lol!
Cha-Keeso is how you pronounce it.
thank you! i was wondering!
Jefferson Airplane appealed to hippies while Jefferson Starship appealed to disco dancers.😄
Lol, they didn't play disco
i dont know if i would call this disco. but who knows, i only heard 2 songs from the incarnation .
When you read your phone during the song, you are not listening to the lyrics. You miss so much on every reaction.
It's called knowing who is playing what. I'm looking at a list of the people playing. And its impossible to focus on EVERYTHING on your first listen. I get it just fine.
@@L33Reacts I understand. I wasn't attacking you. I look forward to your reactions every day. Just hoping to improve your experience.