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I Wouldn't Dry Pour A Concrete Slab Like This | This Way Is Better - DIY 8' X 12' Slab
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2020
- #ConcreteShedSlab #DiyConcreteSlab #MikeDayConcrete
In this video I'm showing you how to pour and finish a small concrete shed slab. This shed slab is 8' x 12' and I'm breaking down the steps for pouring and finishing the concrete to make it easy for a diy small concrete slab project.
The video will show you the basic process it takes to pour and screed the concrete, bull float the concrete, and put a finish on the concrete.
If you want to learn how to pour and finish a concrete slab, this video will teach you the basics. For more in-depth concrete slab training, you can check out my concrete slab course below.
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@Mike Day Everything About Concrete I'm 70 and your videos gave me the courage to pour a propane tank/garbage bin slab (4'x8') in my backyard, last weekend, with my wife. It was a success. Framed in 2x4's, bottom filled with ¾ clean stone with a geotextile sheet underneath. I used 1 inch angle iron I had as rebar, every 12 inches (I already had a lot left over from a previous project). I didn't have a bull float and I changed my screeding method from the one you showed to going back and forth, it helped in pushing down the stones. After that I used a wood mag and steel trowel before finishing the surface with a sponge. I'm very proud of our work. Thanks for the precise instructions and guidance.
It’s really awesome that your involved with your kids like this.... I wish more Dad’s would spend this kind of time with there children.
Thanks, Robert!
This demystifies the process. Thank you for posting. Happy Memorial Day!
Thank you
Thanks Mike, inam about to pour a 13ft x 13ft foundation tomorrow and will be first time finishing so this video helps . Cheers
Great video, good learning experience. Thanks 😊
That’s the perfect size and finish job for a DIYer to learn on. And since it’s only for a shed, even if you did get a hole or a hump, it wouldn’t be a deal breaker. That would have also been perfect for a relative novice to try their hand at pouring and finishing alone.
Yes!
Perfect little slab to train new workers on. You always do nice work.
Thanks, Jack!
Blessings mike...
New here on your channel.
Im working on the border wall with a concrete company and your content has really helped me out alot.
Thank you ..
God bless ....
Thank you!
Nice and clean little slab congrats
Hey Mike great job training the girls. I got a a couple college kids helping me now. I usually only let them rake the concrete at first. We’re pouring 40 yards tomorrow. I’m gonna try and get some footage for my UA-cam channel. Watching your stuff definitely helping me with my videos. 👍👍
Thanks Bondo! Hope it goes well.
Mike Day Everything About Concrete thanks Mike I’m putting water reducer in it. See if it flows better for us. 👍👍
I know it's hard work but you concrete guys make it look satisfying.
How awesome is concrete an amazing product. Your a very good presenter mate. You explain the process very well. Thank you
Thank you!
Smashed!!!! Subscribed!!! Appreciate you.
Thanks for the information on pouring concrete, I use your techniques. I'm doing stuff around the house here.
Excellent video.
Nicely presented. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Love you guys awesome!!!!
Great info Mike, thanks!
Thank you!
I love that you are able to teach young adults this trade (and find ones willing to). This generation does not have a clue on real work and learning outside of a computer. Great job!
Thank you!
They did a nice job!
Thank you!
Another great job
Thanks Tom
Really hard worker and knows what he’s doing
Thank you
Hi Mike, enjoy watching your videos. Quick question, installing a metal garage and I am hearing about the slab having a rat ledge or notched edge. Have you ever done a video on how to form this up?
Thanks again for the video, its great to see you guys take the time and have the patience to pass all your great knowledge and experience along. I couldn't find a link to the "Funny Float" am i missing it are is it not listed?
It's there now.
Like your videos. The only thing I would ask if you could show a closer view when finished. Thanks Mike
Thanks Chad!
U. R teach me a lot
Hey mike,
I am doing a 6" wide x 5" deep x 35' long strip between me and my neighbors yard. Do you recommend I cut down 1/2" or 1/4 plywood for the forms?
Thanks in advance for your time
You mentioned a little about cost for small jobs with a truck. It might be worth the extra money to get a truck. It seems 1 yard by truck will actually cost double per yard (if you can even get one to come for that small amount). Price by doing it with the bag might come out cheaper, but then add the mixer rental plus hauling bags and doing all the mixing.
There also seems to be a breaking point of no matter how many people are working, you can mix fast enough to be able to work it.
Do you need to cut a control joint in a pad that size? Thanks for your video.
I'm subscribed and watch your videos often. The concrete you pour always seems so workable and you're able to screed, mag and bull float it to where it's nice and smooth. When I get concrete it just seems like a bunch of rocks, and right from the beginning it's nearly impossible to work well, to use the tools to pull up the cream and push down the rock. I don't know if the mix is wrong from the plant, if it's my technique and/or timing, if I need a superplasticizer, smaller rock, more water, etc. Also, you mentioned that you normally use a 5-6 inch slump. Is that the slump after the superplasticizer has been added or before? Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
Yes, 5 - 6 inch slump after water reducer is added. Maybe try using a 3500 psi mix, it has a little more cement so sometimes it's not so rocky.
Great video Mike! I'd love to buy a funny float like that. Do you have an item description?
I got that one from Cadillac Concrete Products. I do have a link in the description to one similar.
Mike remind them of the importance of having that reinforcing mesh at midpiont. I didn't see one pull off of the ground.
Looked like they had chairs under it
@@brockwagner939 Nope right on the ground. I don't see any chairs and plus as they walked on it there was absolutely no sag, as there would be if it were raised.
if you look closer there sat on triangle pier lenghts, looks like "silver pins" sticking up
Sorry. You are incorrect. I can clearly see the concrete flowing under and over the wire mesh.
It easier to break out when the wire is on the bottom.
Thanks not rushed neither
Be cool to see these young ladies show up to a pour job by themselves
That could be happening soon!!
Mike, can you explain how much time you wait before maggin, and when to broom finish?
Thanks
Check out this video, I explain it all in this one: ua-cam.com/video/s1u30qLejdA/v-deo.html
Wow. I wish I knew how to do this. Question: Mike, I want to make something similar to put the City Garbage Bins, do I have to do it 4 inches deep or can I go with just 2 inches? And do I have to use a wire? Let me know.
We never pour something like this less than 4". Yea, I would use either wire or fibermesh.
do you have a reference link that explains all the different tools you are using? Why do other large projects use big mechanical things (floats?)
never mind, i now see all your links. great stuff thanks
What about leveling the ground beforehand?
Good training video. I wouldn't broom finish the floor because it holds dirt and dust once the unit is built over it. The smooth floor would be better in keeping it clean and getting the water to roll out the door. thanks.
Thanks John, I was told to do this finish so just doing my job!
@@MikeDayConcrete And that's why your the best! You complete it the way they wanted it.
hi, can anyone advise me plz? how do i work out how much concreet i will need for a slab for a shed of 10 x 8 and mixing by hand? many thanks from the uk xxx
make sure the wire mesh is lifted off the ground on your next pour use fiber mesh so you dont have to lift any wire mesh
It has slab bolsters under it holding it up. No need to pull it.
I like that funny float, what is the technical term? Is it just a fresno with a articulating head?
No it's a funny float or walking float.
not sure if i missed it. the wire mesh is that pulled up off the gravel base into the concrete
My church has a donation of a 6' bronze of Mary. I am supposed to pour the foundation for her. Any ideas on how big this needs to be in Chicago area? I am a landscape contractor but don't do much concrete.
do i need to put down wire mesh on 16x16x4 concrete?
THANK YOU.....THANK YOU.....THANK YOU......MIKE PLEASE MENTION.....WHEN STRIPPING THE 2X4 TAP THE TOP WITH A HAMMER FIRST TO RELEASE THE BOND......AND SO YOU DO NOT TAKE THE ROUNDED EDGE OFF THE SLAB OFF WITH YOUR 2X4.....
How do you make straight wood for forming the sides? Would ripping OSB board at a Home Depot to the slab thickness be a way to go?
We just pick through a lot of boards until we find straight ones. Then we use the string to make sure they stay straight during the pour.
@@MikeDayConcrete I imagine you can set forms perfect one day, be ready to go the next, and find them warped.
Do you have a recommendation for pouring concrete where you don't have feasible access from the concrete truck? Trying to avoid a pump for only 1.5 yds but also wouldn't like to mix all that via bags.
You could rent a power buggy for about $125- $150, but you will need a vehicle capable of towing it. It weighs about 500lbs. Where i live there is a guy that will bring his buggy and operate it for $150 for up to 10 yards, after that he charges extra.
Yea, power buggy or wheel barrow. It costs me 100 bucks to rent a power buggy.
Great instructional video and explanation but shouldn't you have pulled up the wire instead of leaving it on the ground?
It had slab bolsters under it holding it up, take a look again and you'll see them.
How soft can the soil be?
The concrete company poured my 8x12 slab with a 1.5 inch slant instead of level. How can I level it off for my shed/tiny home floor
Hi Mike,
Do you ever tamp the concrete after screeting? I'm in California and that is commonly done.
Never. I've never seen one used in Maine.
That's great news, because it's a pain in the ass.
Thanks
I had this same question, I'm in CA too, maybe it is a CA thing.
still fascinated by how in almost all your videos screeding is a 2 person job, here in NZ its almost always done by one person (not the most fun job) OX is the largest brand of screeds and bull-floats in NZ and even their 3.6 meter (12 foot) kick screeds only have a central handle and are intended for use by a single person. I do like the idea of 2 person screeding it seems like it might be a little easier as you're only needing to focus on your end of the screed being level. (also power screeds are very rarely used in NZ, and water reducers are also very rarely used)
Why didn't you put rocks under the reinforcing grate?
Mike if the customer wanted a smooth finish would you add air? I assume this slab has air as it will likely be exposed to the freeze thaw cycles.
Yea I would if it was exterior. Only interior heated slabs have no air here.
I heard that air entrained concrete should not be troweled to a polished finish with steel. You risk surface delamination. I have heard of big jobs with this problem and big lawsuits. Is that true reason i am asking because i am planning on doing a small 8x12 shed slab , it will not be heated and i want a smooth surface. Should i add air? Yes my climate is the same if not colder then yours eh!
How many bags for this shed?
If pouring a slab in the backyard for a home shop, does this usually need to be inspected by the local government? Something like 20 feet on a side perhaps and 6 or more inches thick.
Take your government inspections and shove it
All local code enforcements are different. You'd have to check with your town or city.
If i just needed to pour a concrete slab for a bluestone patio I would be done after placing and screeding, right? I don't think it would need to be smooth for installing the bluestones on top.
We place, screed, and float it once.
@@MikeDayConcrete Thank you, Mike! Luv your channel btw! Will be signing up for the course as well.
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Those girls had great form
what if you don't have a "Bull Float"? Just screed and then hand float? I am just pouring a 8'x7' pad.
Something that small you can just hand float, yes.
Mike. This is tim from Ohio I keep asking can u poor a drive way at 3 inches deep.
No, I'd go 5 to 6 here in Maine
Why wouldn’t you use a back and forth action with the screed?
It's not how we were taught, and it's slower in my opinion.
You are pulling it back towards you to level out the concrete. If there's any high spots with the concrete they pull it back towards them to level it out. If it's really high or really low there will be a guy behind them with a concrete rake helping move it around for them so it's less work for the people leveling it out with a two by four. No need to go back and forth with the two by four. I hope that helped 😊
You dont use a polythene sheet?
Is the Fresno and the Funny float the same thing?
Fresno is more like a hand trowel, funny float like a mag float.
@@MikeDayConcrete thanks Mike
Why no stones or plastic underneath?
It was gravel under it, don't need stones. Don't need plastic either, it's just a shed slab.
10 people for an 8 x 12 pad. Hate to see that guys bill :). Can you get a smooth as finish from bull floating vs power trowel?
Where did all the extra people come from. Got to teach them somehow
Mesh
blue steel..steel edger
This the type of guy that drives a truck with his company stickers all over it
Why flatten the edges b4 screeding why not just screed it
Shed base will be nicer than theshwd
Lol
Haha, thanks
@@MikeDayConcrete nicer than mine. Looks like a cow patty. I didn't pour it. Lol
Not one time did anyone! Lift the mesh
Wire is no good on the bottom
Steel is on the dirt...!!
You forgot to pick up the mesh why did you put it in it’s important
It had slab bolsters under it, watch it more closely.
Forgot to pull the mesh up
Never picked the wire up off the ground; reinforcing was useless.
Wire on ground no good needs to be picked up
Why even bother putting wire mesh in, if it's on the ground it's not doing any good, and damn so many people for just that little pad
Didn't you hear me say we poured a large patio also on this same site? And the wire had slab bolsters under it we didn't need to pull it up.
"DIY" starts off with a concrete truck. Yeah, OK
Why pour the concrete on top of the wire? You didn’t lift the wire!!🤪 don’t do videos and be stupid, you gonna throw people off..
Trying to teach people? Ha. U don’t even know the fundamentals. Lift the mesh up. Amateur.
Hey Elwood, the wire had slab bolsters under it holding it up, but you probably don't know what those are, no worries.
Not even pulling the wire. The wire is supposed to be in the center......not 1/2" coverage on the U/S. The way it is in the video......it's doing nothing.....what a waste of steel. Might as well have put no mesh at all! This is amateur hour!