New World Adds SWIMMING But Is It Enough?
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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Is New World: Aternum better than New World? Or are just the same old MMO...
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I play all MMO's as single player RPG's anyhow, ill give it another shot.
its lowkey the best way honestly. FOMO and Meta genuinely ruins what makes a mmorpg's special. I know it's myself causing this, but cant be helped lol
No PVP? Sad.
@@gamezonereactions8388sad for you w for him cause he's actually getting what he wants
@@Huckle777 off meta always on top 📈
Surprisingly the lack of swimming is what tipped me over the edge last time. It’s hard to express in a single comment, but I’m actually excited to give this a solid attempt. I think (and this is key) playing with friends could make this a staple mmo with the hopes that new systems and original content are added regularly now that the fixing/rebranding is complete. Console could be the boost this needed, and I’m glad to see them take the risk despite the mob that is the internet. Fix bugs, create a strong content release cadence, and be creative.
Still no end game and getting a bunch of console kids to grind won't last long.
I have to disagree with you. If you played this game at launch and didn’t like it. There’s a very good chance you will like it now. The difference is HUGE. As a WoW and ESO vet I can whole heartedly say if you like those games you will love this.
I mostly meant if you didn't like the bones of the game in combat, crafting, gathering, ui, world, etc you probably won't see much difference. The story has been improved over the years but it remains the same game it was at launch, just more refined. Eso to this game is probably a better bridge than wow to this game just do to combat and how they approach storytelling.
I have do disagree with your disagreement. If you played this game at launch, you may have become poisoned by the bugs, the lack of attention paid to the feedback of players and testers and the pathetic experience with no end game that you were sold. If you played this game at launch, you may NEVER play this game EVER AGAIN no matter what the hell they do to make it the best game ever made.
All my friends but one are coming back. We met on new world and we've played a few other games over the past few years. I kinda feel like you haven't really experienced the benefits of the combat system unless you've either done some organized pvp or some high level dungeons. The combat makes it super unique compared to any other MMO. Dodges matter, you have to Iframe through certain attacks, and there's important debuffs... there's some good tanking mechanics. Some of the boss fights are more like Destiny than a typical MMO.
ESO is also more action combat oriented, but everything in ESO is just Spammy... New world has abilities on cooldowns where ESO has abilities that you can keep recasting over and over if you have the resourses... ESO is also all about clipping combat animations to weave extra attacks in between. New world is slower and more strategic... it feels SOOO much better IMO.
We've seen this with other MMO's from huge well-funded studios. I'm rooting for AGS to pull an FFXIV-style revival, but I'm not assuming they will do it. It is on the studio and I hope you're suggested direction of just making it a solo rpg is not taken to heart. I want to see more MMOs not less.
In some respect, you're correct that New World needs a niche that makes it stand out and thus "have a point." However, I think it is unreasonable to say every creation needs a point to be viable in entertainment. I'd argue New World gains more from a conversation around formulas that are proven to work in the MMO sphere, adapting it to their world, and coming up with a way to improve, make novel, or add to that formula. After all, I doubt there was much of a point for Galaga but it took the Space Invaders formula and added to it to come into its own.
At any rate, It seems like they are in a much better place with the game now than they were when they pushed the game out to PC. They still have a long way to go and it remains to be seen if AGS has the patience or vision to get there. That journey is one I will be happy to watch unfold and for my part I'll jump in to give it another chance.
LETS GOOOOO ! Swimming for the win ! Finally New World moves out of an unending Alpha Testing period :D
*All this extra dev time, console release...and there's still no endgame.*
Hmmm i may try it again. But i cant see how it would be any better in the long run. The main reason i quit was all the Bot farming it got so it was almost imposable to gather resources and were forced to buy them from the bot farmers. Something I refuse to do. so unless they have fixed that issue i see no point in going back
I'll play New World and I'm really looking forward to it.
My run with the last Fresh Start server was one of the best times I had with the game and this was before the changes that came with Angry Earth.
I have no idea if the end game now is any good - probably not but the journey to it is already worth the price imo.
If you like the game in general you can get a few hundred hours out of it.
I mean, I know I'm going to come back and check it out at some point. Because while I know it's absolutely not a "forever" MMO or even a long-term home for me, it's still just a fun game to run around in and explore/craft etc. There are just so many MMOs or MMO-adjacent games out there at this point that not every game needs to be a "1000 hours or nothing" experience.
Any game with a battle pass is a hard no
After 3 years of swimming, swimming is finally here. But. There are pretty much no places in NW where you would actually need to swim. Most rivers and lakes in NW are too shallow to swim in. Therefore we will still be walking slowly pretty much everywhere, like we do pre-Aeternum update. Good job on AGS for doing bare minimum and just now after 3 years, finally implementing a feature that in every other game is a very self-evident mechanic to have at Day One.
After thousands of hrs, I'm definitely burned out by AGS incompetence. But I've addicted to this trash that has had potential since Day one launch. Hopefully this time around ... Idk, I don't know how NW is gonna continue to exist with the current dev team. They're incompetent. They don't know what they're doing. They didn't know what they were doing in the early alpha days, they have had no clue the last three years. So how am I supposed to believe that they have any solid plan on what they want to do with NW now when the re-launch hits?
New World is in my MMO rotation. It's charm is chill harvesting crafting at max level/making cash/and maxing all weapons. It has the best open world of any game ever created and the worse transmogs.
WoW - Conquest Gearing on 6 characters
EVE Online- Economics
Destiny 2 - Public Quest/killing crap
Warframe-God like mobility and my main is a walking wave of destruction.
PoE check out leagues go as far as possible with non meta build (Necro zoomancer) stockpile divines, gear, leave
While I certainly see where you're coming from a jaded veteran, as someone entering fresh, in excited. I abused the beta, and am currently paying Throne and Liberty. What I feel Throne is missing most obviously is what New World has. Quite simply, three years of polish. I'm counting the days, and I look forward to swimming ashore.
Next : Diving Underwater
Old PC players get fked by this relaunch, because they are seperated from the new launch...
Yes and no. The game is the same game so you'll be playing with everyone and if you bought the expansion you're all set. If you didn't buy the expansion you have to upgrade if you want to access the new areas coming with aeternum but I think that only applies to *new* areas not to anything that pc players previously had access to.
The only thing I liked about "New World" when it launched was the crafting and gathering system, which was excellent. I couldn't go back I don't think and the launch version killed the magic.
Been quite a while since I played New World. I will probably go back to it as long as the expansion is on sale (at least 50% off) when it launches.
Also depends on if it works on Linux but seems it does better than it used to, so it seems they enabled the EAC Linux support at the very least. They need all the players they can get, even from us little guys! lol
you think it will be on a 50% sale at launch?
@@Central_Media3656 Probably not, but it would help them get some PC players back in to try it again like myself if they did.
Granted, they probably won't since its new to console and chances are it won't be on sale at release for them.
Tbf you can give it a try on fresh start, you won't start missing the expansion until lv20 where you would unlock mounts.
And yeah it works well on Linux now, played on Steam Deck quite a bit.
@@gasoline9456 Thank you, I wasn't sure how much I would be missing if I didn't have the expansion since many places just say its "basically required" for the new update.
And good to know about Linux, thank you! I had noticed on ProtonDB that things have been looking up for it recently.
I'll check it out. I'll probably not stick with it very long again as the only MMO I go back to semi regularly is GW2, but maybe with the new stuff I'll get 50 hours into it at least as opposed to bouncing of of it after 10 the first time.
You kinda missed some major issues on why people quit this game….one being the duping that they had at the beginning….no mounts….the fact that you had to farm to fast travel
Actually you'll find that Star Citizen is around 709m at this point.. but what's another 100 or so million dollars :D
Former WOW player, by no means a pro and thinking about this aetrnum because it doesn't have a monthly sub. Just got back to playing xbox s, got one for Christmas and this looks like a decent game to get in to for a few 100 or 1000 hours.
Another great video- love how you balance your coverage. I played beta and had fun (consol player). But that said my time is going to be spent in dav, bg3 and eso where my heart stays but could be fun new experience.
R.I.P. timer has started. 🕰
I feel somewhat betrayed by swimming actually being implemented into the game. I did enjoy New World for what it was when it launched for like 3ish weeks but it just didn't have any longevity to it for me. I don't know that I could really point to one thing that turned me off of it but if I had to some it up in a word, shallow. I didn't feel like there was any depth to the game. I might give it a shot at the relaunch for shiggles but I'm not sure how much I'd be willing to spend on it.
I wondered what happened to New World. I bought it when it was released but didn't find the game play or community very engaging so went back to WoW. It looks like its seen some pretty significant improvements. Does anyone know how active it is?
I will be giving the game another try soon. Who knows, it might feel better this time around.
DEVS (pc)
old fans - screw the fans
new fans - buy buy buy buy buy buy!!!!!!
Why don't we try the game ourselves and decide if we like it, rather than listen to some UA-camr
Since I already own it. I will give it ago just to play the revised main story quest.
So this new story and leveling is it even finished? Last rework to leveling was only 1 to 25 lol. But ya I still don’t think it’s still fully ready but oh well
Ah yes Harlvesting. It's satisfying for sure but I enjoy Harvesting more myself. Lol
tbh the swimming wasn't a big deal to me at all, it was just that the launch game wasn't that good overall. Decent combat but lots of copy pasted content (monsters, towns, outdoor areas) and almost no content. Literally the only standout thing was how satisfying the gathering sounds were, lol
Always like the game. Got it at launch but the lack of real endgame ruined it for me. Than they did the refresh servers kinda ran into the same issues. But now they got raids more pvp and not just large wars I'm def making a new character in one of those new worlds.
I really enjoyed new world untill the max level lack of content. I was not into repeated chest runs just to raise gear score lol.
Had more fun new world open beta than Throne and Liberty.. will drop TL once new world comes out..
Ive been thinking of starting an ironman playthrough. Do you think hardcore in new world would work?
Hardcore would be very very difficult. I have around 600 hours on an Ironman though, hands down best way to play
@@JerryGamingTV Is there an actual ironman mode?? You got me hyped to play again now! Im excited to hear an ironman playstyle really works
I might go check it out again, but I got D4 expac, Dragon Age, and FFXIV raiding to do. Not sure where I'd fit it in, maybe I might. Just seems to enjoy it, I may need some friends with me. I wish them the best, but October is loaded with some good quality stuff, that this may of been better had they held off a month.
I played the recent beta for a bit. I have other things that I'm playing at the moment. It will have to be back-burnered for the time being.
GT
This video is on point, NW could have been so much more.
I played it a few weeks or months ago for the first time. It got me entertained for a few hours, but then i lost interest and went back to other games. I think will not return to it. But it is, as you mentioned, great in graphics, lighting, sounds, etc. But the game itself didn't hook me for longer. So...back to EQ Origins i say :D
Ya that timing for release is not good lol
Thumbs up if you want aim lock out of the game!
Exact same game so it's a nope for me
Too late.
I'm actually quite optimistic about this re-launch. The original success of the launch proved the game has potential to be a success. Almost a million concurrent players is MASSIVE. The falloff was also massive. About a year later they had a big free content update and with that update the concurrent players peaked at around 125k I believe... and it stayed up around half that for quite a while.
My theory is that after the Brimstone update is where they basically decided on the current plan and were approved the budget to produce New World Aeternum. Every major update since then came with an overhaul of a section of the main story, while doing a little bit at endgame to flesh it out and keep the players happy. They made some major improvements to influence and territory control systems. They added mounts, which were a big feature people asked for in the original release... I think it's all been leading up to this, and IMO if this goes well they will finally be able to focus on doing more for the endgame without having the secondary goal of building towards this relaunch.
For a long time, everyone was thinking the game would shut down because the player base was so low, and the devs always said no - we're going to keep supporting this game. Now we know why, and now is the time that will determine if the game actually succeeds or fails. IMO they want to shoot for at least a 2 to 3 hundred thousand concurrent players during peak times (just as a general metric although what they really care about is going to be season passes sold and monthly logins)
the core problems of new world were the lack of a class system, poor hitbox detection and a gameplay loop that had you looking for multiple armor sets that you had to swap between for different resistances. if they want to have success these have to be addressed or people will move on.
@@rynejones8513 They got rid of all ward gear with the Rise update. There is still certain elemental resistances that you want to have for certain Mutations, but there are multiple ways to get those resistances... whether it's swapping gems on your armor or getting resistance on other pieces, like your necklace etc.
I never really noticed the hitbox detection problems, but they made some big changes to combat movement and targetting etc with the rise update.
The new update also lets you pick a starting class in terms of a pair of weapons that work well together and a bonus to certain tradeskills depending on which starter class you choose. Beyond the starting class - I think most people prefer the flexibility in new world to change your weapons and weight loadout to create your own build.
The meta has basically made classes both for pvp and pve.
In pve Most common tank build is sword and hammer, healers most often use lifestaff and void gauntlet, dps has more flexibility but often you get one decent damage weapon and one weapon that's good for grouping mobs or debuffs etc.
In Pvp, you have bruisers with hammer/greataxe, healers, utility/debuff pros with VG and either BB, IG or Flail... swords or ranged weapons often go in a disruptor group that tries to single out healers etc.
Does this game really have a battle pass? If so that alone is enough to make me never play this game
@@SomeGuyFromUtah weapon skills are not classes and this game is a bastardization of RPGs for trying to force that bullshit.
regarding the gear point, what is end game gearing like then? this is a problem that ESO has where you have dozens of armor sets but nothing is truly an upgrade as you would get from going from expansion to expansion in EQ or WoW. this becomes incredibly boring to me.
@@rynejones8513 Unlike most MMO's skill reflection rather than gear is the primary thing that wins the day... so if that doesn't appeal to you then I would agree that the game isn't for you. Some of the hardest content in the game has been done by extremely undergeared players who literally just don't get hit because they know how to avoid the damage.
That being said, there are some really impactful perks and to compete at the highest levels in pvp you need both good perks along with a lot of skill to win the fights. They also added "artifacts" to the game with the Rise update, which is like exotic items in Destiny, where these items have very unique and specific perks that totally change the way you play the game to take advantage of these perks. One Greataxe does void damage instead of slashing and can scale off of INT instead of strength... another turned the javelin toss from a spear into a pull ability rather than one that knocks you back.
I definitely don't have a problem with lack of classes. I tend to think of New World a little more like Destiny rather than WoW. You can change your weapons and each one has pros and cons...
I do agree that they haven't found a really good path to upgrading gear yet, but that's not an actual gameplay problem, it's a system within the game... and probably my biggest gripe with the game at endgame. I never quit because the combat wasn't fun... I only quit because the path to getting what I wanted was poorly designed.
It obviously sounds like you don't like the way the combat works though, so I guess it's just not the game for you. Personally, I've been playing and enjoying wow, but as we get closer to October 15th I'm struggling finding the motivation to login and just push the same buttons in the perfect order.... after doing that for 20 years.
Meh
Nice RBF, nice keeping it simple. I never trusted this game, just like Cyberpunk when it launched. I did not buy this, but after Cyberpunk pulled their head out, I did buy it. Think I'll go back and see what the necro class in Pantheon has in-store for us. Here's to you Red keeping it real man. Cheers Here's to your algorithm BUD Lol. 💯😉👍✌
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