@@dconstruyendocommanderyou don't even have to sac the food to itself for 3life. Vending machine just says "when you sac food", that can mean to Pippin to draw a card, Sam wise to return a thing from the graveyard, Merry's sac 4 to give +3/+3, hell krark-Clan Ironworks sac an artifact for 2 mana, all of those would trigger it for treasures cuz you've sac'ed a food.
I know, but I don't play with the pippin deck and it's not about centralizing everything in that commander as if it were the only way to interact with the food token. The most common way and the one that we all have access to is to sacrifice food for mana, gain 3 lives and generate the treasure token. That was my point. hugs!@@supranova7594
I will say, while Mutant Menace might not be the overall-best Deck, I think The Wise Mothman is the Commander that gets out of hand the quickest. It really needs answering or it might be a 7/7 after a single turn cycle. A 7/7 Flyer on Turn 5 with upside isnt to be underestimated.
@@ItsJayK24 I would say Hail Ceasar. While it needs a bit more set-up, the amount of different tokens you get and the value you can build up is immense. And the quality of removal seems pretty good in that deck too.
my favorite part of fallout is when i witness civilization struggle between finding a new way of life free from the tribalism and injustice of the one that came before and inadvertantly making the same mistakes that led society to ruin :( but also a jaunty lil tune is playing about a cowboy rolling into town :)
@@anthonyestep2812 academy manufacturer, KCI, and Nuka-cola goes infinite. Sac your food to KCI, create one of each that Manufactor makes, rinse and repeat.
I think you’re sleeping on Nuka-Cola Vending Machine. It’s an artifact that can print more artifacts. Not for every deck sure, but it certainly has a home somewhere. It’ll definitely be going in my Chatterfang Deck especially bc it already has Peregrin Took, Academy Manufacturer, and Glimmer Bairn in it. Also, I don’t know why you opted to recommend Impact Tremors over Warleader’s Call for additions to the Hail Caesar deck. For just one white mana more you also get an anthem for your board
I think beezy too in love to evaluate cardboard rationally anymore. Nuka cola is a ridiculous value card period, if not game winning at times. I think a lot of ppl overestimate high price tag cards and underestimate the common and uncommon slots a lot. Most uncommons are better than rares, even old ones like natures lore
I love your channel, but mutant menace third? Science fourth? Literally everywhere I've seen online says Caesar is last, MM is first, and scrappy/science are fighting in the middle.
What everyone is missing about Inventory Management is that it doesn’t target. This means for the first time ever we have a way to attach Assault Suit to a Helix Pinnacle animated with Opalescence, to pass it around the table for mana donations!
i was surprised by that one too , but its not too crazy facing off against it. you would need to do some serious upgrades to make it really good . the deck really needs its commander out too to make rad counters since that deck doesn't have a lot of ways to make them. in the future i can definitely see it being a crazy good proliferate deck
Excited for wasteland raiders in my yarok the desecrated deck. He doubles up etb triggers and squad is an etb so 6 mana each player sacs 6 creatures and you get 3 4/3s. You usually have a bunch of creatures you don’t care about sacrificing since the decks filled with etb creatures
Caesar's Soldier tokens are the same ones made by Assemble the Legion, which is in this deck as well. It cuts down on the different types of tokens you need to bring when playing the deck.
Looks like Inventory Management was made specifically to go with Silver Shroud Costume, Greaves, or any card or creature with shroud because it doesn’t target.
The best chocie for bobbleheads I think will be Urza, Prince of Kroog, as making the bobbleheads into 3/3 dudes, find a way to give them vigi and have bobbleheads smash peoples face, with Urza looking all serious that this is what he is doing and then rolling some dice for whakey hijinks honestly, just feels flavour wise hilarious AF.
There's a reason this was included in the full art Pipboy exclusives in Collector Boosters. Some people just can't understand context clues. It was designed with big things in its future.
I came to the comments section to see who else was around thinking the same thing. Does any food deck not want this, or even any academy manufactor deck? I don't even
If you put a card like Odric in the deck and it's on the battlefield, the tokens having haste could matter because it could give the other creatures you control haste.
Built a madison li deck and it is insane. Infinite energy combos, infinite untaps, infinite mana, and infinite damage. Also play on everyones turn and untap on other players turns. Its not bad by any means, as a commander.
Nuka cola vending machine + KCI + Academy Manufacturer = infinite mana. This dude is SLEEPING on Nuka Cola. Lmao!! This card will be the next big card for a bit.
The monstrosity may be expensive, but late game ( in green ) it’s not bad. Make him a 10/10 with menace and trample, plus destroy another permanent. It’s really not that expensive for what it does.
Black Market rules in aristocrats. Gonna have to disagree with you there. When you're saccing 2-5 creatures a turn it snowballs out of control quickly.
25:55 a question on top of why the tokens have haste. Would that haste work with a creature ability like odric lunar monarch that gives first strike to all of your creatures at the begining of combat and then copys their other affects like haste and vigilance and gives them to all your other creatures? Sounds like it could be a pretty strong combo
Never let them cook again, the entire vid got discredited when they said vending machine was bad AND cutting some of the RAD cards in mothman even thought rads are what make the deck tick lmao.
Watchful Radstag looks like an absolute mess of a board state. I wish WotC would stop printing cards that make tokens that require you to track counters.
Caesar and nuka cola machine are the only two cards that I'm hyped on for my current decks. I'm extremely confused by you saying nuka cola is a bad card... I've been excited about it since it was leaked two months ago 😮.
I preordered the set. I am excited! I have too many decks, some legit and some proxies. I dont even have people to play with😂 I'm too far out in the boonies and online play over camers just isnt the same.
Nuka cola vending machine is an artifact that creates artifacts… in an artifact deck. Everyone needs to shed these people for such a crap card evaluation
ikikik im laattteee but why the hate on black market that card has made me so many mana this deck plays aristocrat so well the amount of times tokens will be saced or killed plus a card like teysa karlov i had 12 counters within 2 turns of playing it
Hil Cesar is probably fone but seems the most boring deck. We have lots of these already, the other three at least look like interesting gsmeplay and new cards. Science and dogmeat's deck I'll be picking up! Maybe mutants later
How are you gonna rate the best pre-cons from this set when you can’t even get a good sponsor by TCG player but you recommend people the best card sleeves cause dragon shield smacks don’t get me wrong, but Christ Almighty I would pay less with TCG player
"Nuka Cola Vending MAchine is just a bad card" my buddy Academy Manufactor has something to say about that...
the moment they said, im not trusting this channel anymore
No shit. That card is totally the best card in the whole set
bad card?!!! you gain 3 lives and get a treasure token!! whats wrong with you
@@dconstruyendocommanderyou don't even have to sac the food to itself for 3life. Vending machine just says "when you sac food", that can mean to Pippin to draw a card, Sam wise to return a thing from the graveyard, Merry's sac 4 to give +3/+3, hell krark-Clan Ironworks sac an artifact for 2 mana, all of those would trigger it for treasures cuz you've sac'ed a food.
I know, but I don't play with the pippin deck and it's not about centralizing everything in that commander as if it were the only way to interact with the food token. The most common way and the one that we all have access to is to sacrifice food for mana, gain 3 lives and generate the treasure token. That was my point.
hugs!@@supranova7594
Radiation counters don't trigger until the beginning of the pre combat main phase. So after you draw your card for turn
The haste is so they can attack if you play an extra combat spell like Aggravated Assault or Grim Reaper's Sprint
Its also to save from having different Soldier tokens in the precon as Assemble the Legion is reprinted in the deck.
I will say, while Mutant Menace might not be the overall-best Deck, I think The Wise Mothman is the Commander that gets out of hand the quickest. It really needs answering or it might be a 7/7 after a single turn cycle. A 7/7 Flyer on Turn 5 with upside isnt to be underestimated.
what do u think the best one is then?
@@ItsJayK24 I would say Hail Ceasar. While it needs a bit more set-up, the amount of different tokens you get and the value you can build up is immense. And the quality of removal seems pretty good in that deck too.
my favorite part of fallout is when i witness civilization struggle between finding a new way of life free from the tribalism and injustice of the one that came before and inadvertantly making the same mistakes that led society to ruin :( but also a jaunty lil tune is playing about a cowboy rolling into town :)
🎶 To the town of Agua Fría rode a stranger one fine dayyy... 🎶
"I'm a ghoul and it causes me to live as a permanent underclass for my cursed life"
"betcha have a big iron on your hip tho"
...are you suggesting that war never changes?
Me and my buddy have had these pre ordered for a month now. We are fallout 3 kids and played fallout 4 like crazy
Shit I still play fallout 4,I usually play yugioh mostly but can't wait to get some of these cards.
nuka-Cola vending machine goes infinite with preregin took
And more
Honestly, this video was the first time I've heard anyone call it a bad card😂
@@austinrearick8946 it confused me very much
I believe Nuka Cola specifies the tokens enter tapped, so it cannot go infinite. Correct me if I’m wrong.
@@anthonyestep2812 academy manufacturer, KCI, and Nuka-cola goes infinite. Sac your food to KCI, create one of each that Manufactor makes, rinse and repeat.
Nuka cola is bad? Oh nah these are the same people that said shalai and halar was a bad card. I don't think they know how to evaluate cards.
Pretty much
@@SPACEB0YZER0 its bait.
This was part of the cut list. I believe he meant the card was bad in context of the energy deck.
@@anthonyestep2812 This is right. He said so in their "Top 10 Fallout cards," video
Pretty much, I take everything this channel says with a grain of salt.
The haste on the tokens is important if you're playing extra combat cards, can go infinite with breath of fury
"As MCR once said, thanks for the memories" LMAO gold
I think you’re sleeping on Nuka-Cola Vending Machine. It’s an artifact that can print more artifacts. Not for every deck sure, but it certainly has a home somewhere. It’ll definitely be going in my Chatterfang Deck especially bc it already has Peregrin Took, Academy Manufacturer, and Glimmer Bairn in it. Also, I don’t know why you opted to recommend Impact Tremors over Warleader’s Call for additions to the Hail Caesar deck. For just one white mana more you also get an anthem for your board
I think beezy too in love to evaluate cardboard rationally anymore. Nuka cola is a ridiculous value card period, if not game winning at times. I think a lot of ppl overestimate high price tag cards and underestimate the common and uncommon slots a lot. Most uncommons are better than rares, even old ones like natures lore
I clarified what I meant with Nuka-Cola Vending Machine in our top ten video for the set
I love your channel, but mutant menace third? Science fourth? Literally everywhere I've seen online says Caesar is last, MM is first, and scrappy/science are fighting in the middle.
ignoring the fact that you could with some preparation shut off the muting deck... and it's still a very good deck.
I feel like Bloodchief Ascension is a no brainer for mothman
What everyone is missing about Inventory Management is that it doesn’t target. This means for the first time ever we have a way to attach Assault Suit to a Helix Pinnacle animated with Opalescence, to pass it around the table for mana donations!
There's no way Mutant Menace is 3rd. Wtf y'all smoking
i was surprised by that one too , but its not too crazy facing off against it. you would need to do some serious upgrades to make it really good . the deck really needs its commander out too to make rad counters since that deck doesn't have a lot of ways to make them. in the future i can definitely see it being a crazy good proliferate deck
If you have Temple of the False God and at least 5 other lands, pip boy is basically free to play and equip.
Excited for wasteland raiders in my yarok the desecrated deck. He doubles up etb triggers and squad is an etb so 6 mana each player sacs 6 creatures and you get 3 4/3s. You usually have a bunch of creatures you don’t care about sacrificing since the decks filled with etb creatures
The whole time I thought Caesar was only 1 effect a turn... 2 effects a turn is ridiculous!
not sure if been mentioned, but caesar's tokens have haste so you can use the same RW haste soldier tokens we've had for years
Caesar's Soldier tokens are the same ones made by Assemble the Legion, which is in this deck as well. It cuts down on the different types of tokens you need to bring when playing the deck.
Ceasers token having haste matter if your taking extra combats. Also odric if you play him will give any creature you control haste.
also allow blocking the bobble head that gives haste (as it gives haste and can only be blocked by haste)
Looks like Inventory Management was made specifically to go with Silver Shroud Costume, Greaves, or any card or creature with shroud because it doesn’t target.
The best chocie for bobbleheads I think will be Urza, Prince of Kroog, as making the bobbleheads into 3/3 dudes, find a way to give them vigi and have bobbleheads smash peoples face, with Urza looking all serious that this is what he is doing and then rolling some dice for whakey hijinks honestly, just feels flavour wise hilarious AF.
Funny you mentioned mizzix when discussing rad storm. I have a mizzix deck and I went crazy when I read rad storm.
A match made in heaven!
8:49 you're wrong
There's a reason this was included in the full art Pipboy exclusives in Collector Boosters. Some people just can't understand context clues. It was designed with big things in its future.
Glad I'm not the only one that thought that was a hot take lol academy manufacturer says hello
I came to the comments section to see who else was around thinking the same thing. Does any food deck not want this, or even any academy manufactor deck? I don't even
26:10 maybe for extra combats? like untapping them to attack again, wouldnt be able to without haste
If you put a card like Odric in the deck and it's on the battlefield, the tokens having haste could matter because it could give the other creatures you control haste.
What is wrong with the nuka-cola vending machine? It seems great enough food or artifact deck.
The Caeser tokens have haste for extra combats, ya dingus 😂 They can trigger his ability
Awesome video as always, thanks for your quality content! Instant subscribe!
*Shoving moon pies from my Nuka-Cola vending machine into an oversized potato launcher, eating some myself*
HMPH?
Built a madison li deck and it is insane. Infinite energy combos, infinite untaps, infinite mana, and infinite damage. Also play on everyones turn and untap on other players turns. Its not bad by any means, as a commander.
Not liking Black Market is probably one of the worst takes i've ever seen on an MTG channel in general. Other than that, pretty spot on.
How are you guys not talking about inventory management's split second pausing the game
Nuka cola vending machine + KCI + Academy Manufacturer = infinite mana. This dude is SLEEPING on Nuka Cola. Lmao!! This card will be the next big card for a bit.
I don't really like mill, but that Mothman deck is so cool
On Brotherhood Scribe, it mentions 1 or more energy, so I think it caps at +1/+1. 3 energy would still be 1 or more.
If you get one energy multiple times with something like Decoction Module, it will keep triggering
Awesome video guys! Bummed I missed you two at MTG Chicago!
Wish we could have seen you but hope to catch a game at another con!
They probably gave the tokens haste in case you wanted to play extra combat spells.
The tokens having haste matters if you get an extra combat, the deck is in red
I kept looking up the pre con overview and they all sucked so I just waited for the nerds too make one, now I know everything I could need too
i really want the nitpicking nerds to post a blooper video one of these days
Weirdly enough MCR nor NCR said "thanks for the memories" it was actually Fallout Boy, I feel you really could have slammed that one home! 😅😅
You two are the best and ONLY set review / commander upgrade channel to watch ❤️
The monstrosity may be expensive, but late game ( in green ) it’s not bad. Make him a 10/10 with menace and trample, plus destroy another permanent. It’s really not that expensive for what it does.
Chances are you mill him so reanimation is crucial
Thanks for the info been wanting to upgrade some of these precons
Wasteland raider is going straight into my Carmen, Cruel Skymarcher deck....
The glowing one in every game ive used it has been an all star
I’d love to buy them since I love Fallout but I’ve already got so much product this year and I’m saving up for other sets. Sort of insane.
Nuka Cola Machine is immediately going in my Rocco deck
Wild Wasteland is immediately going in Faldorn and Rocco as well
Black Market rules in aristocrats. Gonna have to disagree with you there. When you're saccing 2-5 creatures a turn it snowballs out of control quickly.
The cards that y'all said should be cut can really be used for literally a powerhouse if used right
25:55 a question on top of why the tokens have haste. Would that haste work with a creature ability like odric lunar monarch that gives first strike to all of your creatures at the begining of combat and then copys their other affects like haste and vigilance and gives them to all your other creatures? Sounds like it could be a pretty strong combo
Never let them cook again, the entire vid got discredited when they said vending machine was bad AND cutting some of the RAD cards in mothman even thought rads are what make the deck tick lmao.
hmmm.. Watchful Radstag might be a decent addition for an Ivy, Gleeful Spellthief mutate deck.
The vending machine has a welcome home in my frodo and Sam food and hobbits list. Did you not read that chapter in the lord of the rings?
I preordered these when they were first announced and can’t wait to play them! I’m a huge fallout nerd
Watchful Radstag looks like an absolute mess of a board state. I wish WotC would stop printing cards that make tokens that require you to track counters.
Power Fist seems good in my Me the Immortal deck but yeah cut it here
Why do Caesar's tokens have haste? Maybe extra combats, so they can attack again that turn?
Power fist is dangerous on mothman but even worse on radroach
Let's hear what you think Nerds. I'm excited for some of these.
Caesar and nuka cola machine are the only two cards that I'm hyped on for my current decks. I'm extremely confused by you saying nuka cola is a bad card... I've been excited about it since it was leaked two months ago 😮.
If the tokens have haste they can atk in multiple combats that turn…otherwise they couldn’t
never is too much about pizza, do you think master splinter feed the teenage mutant ninja turtles everyday if is not healthy
The caesar tokens have haste in case you have extra combats I would assume
Whats the total reprint value of hail ceasar?
I actually thought science is a great deck and you can give it pretty cheaply too. I ended up getting two for $26
I preordered the set. I am excited!
I have too many decks, some legit and some proxies.
I dont even have people to play with😂
I'm too far out in the boonies and online play over camers just isnt the same.
Hey, looks like I can resubscribe without being yelled at because I do not want to be lectured to about non-MTG stuff.
*immediately runs out to buy that Vending Machine for his Gyome deck*
It's definitely good in a food deck, I could have specified that better lol
Maybe the token have haste in case you take extra combats phases!!
I’d rename mutant menace to forceful descent
Is it just me or does anyone else find they always disagree with the majority of nn's ratings?
Nuka cola vending machine is an artifact that creates artifacts… in an artifact deck.
Everyone needs to shed these people for such a crap card evaluation
ikikik im laattteee but why the hate on black market that card has made me so many mana this deck plays aristocrat so well the amount of times tokens will be saced or killed plus a card like teysa karlov i had 12 counters within 2 turns of playing it
Plz tell me mothman plz tell me mothman plz tell me mothman
mothman
mothman
HAIL CAESAR!
I need the Ceaser deck, fallout new Vegas is my favorite.
If you're serious about Vending Machine being a "bad card" then you've probably lost a lot of trust in anything you say.
Hil Cesar is probably fone but seems the most boring deck. We have lots of these already, the other three at least look like interesting gsmeplay and new cards. Science and dogmeat's deck I'll be picking up! Maybe mutants later
Mothman seems good in atraxa.
mothman is a cool dude
How are you gonna rate the best pre-cons from this set when you can’t even get a good sponsor by TCG player but you recommend people the best card sleeves cause dragon shield smacks don’t get me wrong, but Christ Almighty I would pay less with TCG player
0:08 dat expression xD
Fallobst Commander Decks :3
Ave, true to Caesar!
rarely have i watched a review video and have been so in disbelief about how wrong the op is/are about decks...
Mia's mic off?
Some horrible takes from Beezy lol, hopefully other people listen to him so that their decks weaken.
what is the criteria to evaluate cards? caesar the best deck? nuka cola a bad card? yall aren´t forced to post for every expansion
*a bad card for that specific deck
not a bad card in general
@@beefbelly they never said that, but yeah whatever gives you peace works
@@Ram-hc4hr guess you never learned to use context clues. he listed cards to cut for every deck that didnt suit the deck
@@beefbelly guess you overthink and look for hidden messages in what people tell you, he said the card is just plain bad, no hidden clues
EDH is a preferable alternative to Communism.
No time stamps and just bland personalities. This is bad content.
Esper sentinel is in the precon? Isn’t that worth more than the greaves?
Its.... not?
@@SWAT6809 the video is confusing? He doesn’t say replacements, it’s just after urza? So those cards are potential replacements?
6:52 is the beginning of our "non-budget adds" segment
rad \m/
Mcr haha fallout boy 😂
THIRD!
bronze!
First 🎉
Nice!
Cringe
I play a Reverse card