I think that if you are of the Ian Seabrook persuasion, then the shameless poverty specification of this car is wonderful. For me, it's a bit too much!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I’m much older than you, so poverty spec today was opulent when I had my first few cars ! A decent stereo with , importantly a cd player, I have thousands, is essential, beyond that central locking, power steering and probably air on is necessary. As you know my car has beige leather, looks fantastic, easy to maintain, a huge bonus when I bought the car, with heated front seats, never use, always got trousers on ! The satnav I have never used, don’t often use cruise control, too much traffic. Can’t stand the “driving aids” either . One very good feature is the reversing camera though.
Yes sir, no driving aids, no air conditioning and really not much in the way of excitement at all. My uncle's Rapid Spaceback that I filmed in 2021 is slightly more luxurious, but not by much. He has had it for almost six years now, and I don't think that he will be selling it any time soon.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting My last landlord had a second generation Fabia Combi, which I understand to also be Polo-based. It was actually a good, practical workhorse.
Excellent review, even in this basic spec, it's still looks decadence by Hubnut standards. It does have a certain charm of being no nonsense and dependable with just enough to keep things civilized.
Oh we do love a Base Level Skoda here.... You can see where the Mark 3 Fabia got all its parts from, very similiar car inside and out. The alloys have been added as the original S trim would have had wheel trims. Have to agree with you not a huge fan of the front end, but then I Say that about all Skoda's of this era onwards. An excellent review as always Sir.
Yes, the front suspension is very similar to a Mark III Fabia, although the back end is different. Very similar engines, gearboxes and interior components, as you say. For me, it has to be a much higher specification than this to be worth considering, but there are others who would disagree with me about that...
Its an S Greentech with stopstart , slightly lower co2 and bik. The interior is relentless grey misery, and yet the E spec was even more basic with manual mirrors and a lower spec radio. I had a Sport as a courtesy car a few years ago, i took the opportunity to buy 6 large bags of bark chippings and there was still room to spare. Although better equipped the Sport still had surprising specification omissions even compared to its Spaceback sibling. Your Toledo was positively luxurious in comparison.
Over the last ten years, Skoda seems to have developed an attitude that if you want a fully equipped car, you need to resort to the options list, which means that the cars look attractively priced, but in order to bring them up to scratch, ticking those options boxes brings them close to the price of everything else. The SE-L and Sport models were indeed much more spartan than a Toledo Xcellence, unless you got some options, hence why I did not buy a Rapid back in the day.
Would you say it is good for a first car at 17? i dont really like the look of hatchbacks in general but this design looks more like a saloon but doesn't cost a fortune to insure for a new driver, and i've found a brilliant deal for £4k for first year insurance plus the car. need a nice roomy car aswell =)
As these Rapids and Toledos are essentially longer versions of the 9N Volkswagen Polo with different rear suspension, there is no reason why they shouldn't be just as cheap to run as one of those. The question is really what you prefer, as they share a lot of the same characteristics in terms of reliability. My uncle has had a 2017 Rapid Spaceback since 2018, which has a similar engine to this, and he has no plans to sell it.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Thank you for the quick response - do you know how many miles he has on it? The one I am looking at is a good deal about £2k for car and £2k for 1st year insurance, but I am worried as it has 120,000 miles. One friend says that's fine but other one says big no. I hear the car is still very reliable even with that distance on it however. I'm a big fan of the saloon look of the car, but it still is a hatchback so insurance is fairly cheap
It's impossible to say how good the car is without having actually viewed it in person, sadly, especially as you are looking at something for around the £2,000 mark.
Nice practical car. Yes the Seat Toledo looks better but I am sure that they drive identically to each other. Nice clear dash layout. Groovy Coolant Reservoir, just like my Audi A8.
Silly question time why did tsi come in 110 ps or 86 ps slug in the later models my daughter had two polo 1.2 hi power lovely car then the beats no power special was this to do with parts not being viable ?
@lloydvehicleconsulting Remember that lovely looking Octavia L&K 1.8 TSi DSG, she's been using a lot of oil recently, drives perfectly fine, performance doesn't feel dulled and temperature is normal but there's something not right.
@lloydvehicleconsulting My friend is taking her to a VW Audi specialist for inspection on the 5th. Hopefully, it's nothing major, The other Škoda we can't talk about doesn't burn oil or does anything sinister, in fact, the bonnet is only ever opened to top up the screenwash.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I drive a very basic 2006 plate Skoda fabia estate brilliant motor had it 8 years now. I was looking into fiestas at one time I just don't like their cheap tacky interior.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I'm on two minds with my car it's done 82000 miles now don't know wether to get rid or not but its never let me down. I bought it for 3 grand it's been cheap to run has cost a lot on service and MOT sometimes but so what it's still cheaper than forking out 10k+ on a car.
Dear me Sir, I am a fan of the Skoda Rapid and will not be getting rid of my Spaceback for a good while yet, but that eBay special spoiler and the fake chrome door handles are truly hideous. I’d rather drive an oil burner than put up with those.
Sir, fortunately my uncle's Rapid Spaceback is not adorned with such extras either, and he is not planning on selling it any time soon either. Please keep your comments clean in the future, though, we don't want any of that talk round here....
@@lloydvehicleconsulting apologies sir, one didn’t mean to lower the tone. The last part of my comment was as gauche as those door handles. I hope Leigh gets rid of the accoutrements, can’t just be me who think it looks a bit dodgy.
It's just a shame VW have made the Skoda marque so boring. I remember sitting in a new Skoda Fabia some years ago and feeling an overwhelming sensation of depression coming over me at the blandness of the dashboard. I normally like simple, basic design but this just felt life sapping in it's lack of flair in any way. I ended up buying a second hand Jaguar XF which was joyous. Such a pity that Skoda is just another faceless VW product.
It's quite telling that the Scala that replaced the Rapid is a much better looking, higher quality and better specified car. A Mark II Fabia that I have driven also had a very plain interior, which was most certainly corrected in the Mark IV. Not everyone is really bothered by that sort of thing (my uncle isn't, and will probably have his Rapid Spaceback forever), but my Mark IV Toledo was ever so much nicer than this.
The Skoda Octavia engines are getting smaller and smaller, with massive turbos, which will in a start space of time, hurt the buyer, and make VW regret it.
Mr Khan should be wearing a mask and only come out after dark. If Londoners vote for him they had better be prepared to pay to use their EVs, their bicycles and even charging for the privilege of using Public Transport once they have been forced onto it while fares will automatically double to keep Mr Khan in the luxury that he has become accustomed to. My Son has already purchased 3 beautiful Mercedes vehicles which have fallen foul of ULEZ Charging from very regretful careful owners.
Sir, there is no doubt at all that the Mayor of London has won himself few friends in the motoring world with his policies. We shall find out soon the results of today's election.
A VW parts bin special. No stupid screens , real handbrake , dials , cd player , all excellent .
I think that if you are of the Ian Seabrook persuasion, then the shameless poverty specification of this car is wonderful. For me, it's a bit too much!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I’m much older than you, so poverty spec today was opulent when I had my first few cars ! A decent stereo with , importantly a cd player, I have thousands, is essential, beyond that central locking, power steering and probably air on is necessary. As you know my car has beige leather, looks fantastic, easy to maintain, a huge bonus when I bought the car, with heated front seats, never use, always got trousers on ! The satnav I have never used, don’t often use cruise control, too much traffic. Can’t stand the “driving aids” either . One very good feature is the reversing camera though.
Yes sir, no driving aids, no air conditioning and really not much in the way of excitement at all. My uncle's Rapid Spaceback that I filmed in 2021 is slightly more luxurious, but not by much. He has had it for almost six years now, and I don't think that he will be selling it any time soon.
Thank you for this video! The Skoda's usable space is amazing, especially given its Polo roots!
That's because the rear end is completely different from the Polo.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting My last landlord had a second generation Fabia Combi, which I understand to also be Polo-based. It was actually a good, practical workhorse.
That's right, based on the chassis of the 9N Volkswagen Polo.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting It was hardly a Kenworth, nevertheless it could tow a full trailer well!
Excellent review, even in this basic spec, it's still looks decadence by Hubnut standards. It does have a certain charm of being no nonsense and dependable with just enough to keep things civilized.
Sir, the Seat Toledo I had when the channel started was ever so much better than this...
Oh we do love a Base Level Skoda here.... You can see where the Mark 3 Fabia got all its parts from, very similiar car inside and out.
The alloys have been added as the original S trim would have had wheel trims.
Have to agree with you not a huge fan of the front end, but then I Say that about all Skoda's of this era onwards.
An excellent review as always Sir.
Yes, the front suspension is very similar to a Mark III Fabia, although the back end is different. Very similar engines, gearboxes and interior components, as you say. For me, it has to be a much higher specification than this to be worth considering, but there are others who would disagree with me about that...
Its an S Greentech with stopstart , slightly lower co2 and bik. The interior is relentless grey misery, and yet the E spec was even more basic with manual mirrors and a lower spec radio. I had a Sport as a courtesy car a few years ago, i took the opportunity to buy 6 large bags of bark chippings and there was still room to spare. Although better equipped the Sport still had surprising specification omissions even compared to its Spaceback sibling. Your Toledo was positively luxurious in comparison.
Over the last ten years, Skoda seems to have developed an attitude that if you want a fully equipped car, you need to resort to the options list, which means that the cars look attractively priced, but in order to bring them up to scratch, ticking those options boxes brings them close to the price of everything else. The SE-L and Sport models were indeed much more spartan than a Toledo Xcellence, unless you got some options, hence why I did not buy a Rapid back in the day.
Would you say it is good for a first car at 17? i dont really like the look of hatchbacks in general but this design looks more like a saloon but doesn't cost a fortune to insure for a new driver, and i've found a brilliant deal for £4k for first year insurance plus the car. need a nice roomy car aswell =)
As these Rapids and Toledos are essentially longer versions of the 9N Volkswagen Polo with different rear suspension, there is no reason why they shouldn't be just as cheap to run as one of those. The question is really what you prefer, as they share a lot of the same characteristics in terms of reliability. My uncle has had a 2017 Rapid Spaceback since 2018, which has a similar engine to this, and he has no plans to sell it.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Thank you for the quick response - do you know how many miles he has on it? The one I am looking at is a good deal about £2k for car and £2k for 1st year insurance, but I am worried as it has 120,000 miles. One friend says that's fine but other one says big no. I hear the car is still very reliable even with that distance on it however.
I'm a big fan of the saloon look of the car, but it still is a hatchback so insurance is fairly cheap
It's impossible to say how good the car is without having actually viewed it in person, sadly, especially as you are looking at something for around the £2,000 mark.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Okay, thank you very much for your answer :)
It's possible to get a good car for £2,000 or less, you just have to be quite careful.
Nice practical car.
Yes the Seat Toledo looks better but I am sure that they drive identically to each other. Nice clear dash layout.
Groovy Coolant Reservoir, just like my Audi A8.
The Seat Toledos with more power are much better to drive, unsurprisingly. That coolant reservoir was everywhere back in the day.
Silly question time why did tsi come in 110 ps or 86 ps slug in the later models my daughter had two polo 1.2 hi power lovely car then the beats no power special was this to do with parts not being viable ?
Ever so sorry, but I don't quite understand the question... Are you talking about the differences between the 1.2 TSi and 1.0 TSi engines?
I prefer this shape Rapid to the Spaceback.
I prefer the Toledo best of all, but yes, only the high specification Rapid Spacebacks look good, in my opinion.
Are the worries about reliability and high oil consumption justiced with these TSI engines?
Yes, to a certain extent, although different TSI engines seem to have different problems...
@lloydvehicleconsulting
Remember that lovely looking Octavia L&K 1.8 TSi DSG, she's been using a lot of oil recently, drives perfectly fine, performance doesn't feel dulled and temperature is normal but there's something not right.
@@paulie-Gualtieri., sir, specific questions about said 1.8 TSi engine are best reserved for someone like Mr Coleman...
@lloydvehicleconsulting
My friend is taking her to a VW Audi specialist for inspection on the 5th. Hopefully, it's nothing major, The other Škoda we can't talk about doesn't burn oil or does anything sinister, in fact, the bonnet is only ever opened to top up the screenwash.
@@paulie-Gualtieri., sir, such libellous comments may get you into trouble...
asking what does the TSI S mean pls
Tsi is the engine. S is the trim level
Thank you, Mr Watters!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting am not mr watters? grrr
@@classics144sportscarschannel , the gentleman who replied to you first is Mr Watters...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting o right ok np. thanks.
Id buy one I dont like fancy ad ons in cars just to up the price.
That's why my uncle bought his six years ago and he still has it.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I drive a very basic 2006 plate Skoda fabia estate brilliant motor had it 8 years now. I was looking into fiestas at one time I just don't like their cheap tacky interior.
The Mark I Fabias have much nicer interiors than a Rapid.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I'm on two minds with my car it's done 82000 miles now don't know wether to get rid or not but its never let me down. I bought it for 3 grand it's been cheap to run has cost a lot on service and MOT sometimes but so what it's still cheaper than forking out 10k+ on a car.
If there's nothing really wrong with it, you may as well keep it.
Popular with taxi drivers
As well as the Toledos.
decent honest motors
My uncle has had his 2017 Rapid Spaceback since 2018, and he won't be getting rid of it any time soon...
Dear me Sir, I am a fan of the Skoda Rapid and will not be getting rid of my Spaceback for a good while yet, but that eBay special spoiler and the fake chrome door handles are truly hideous. I’d rather drive an oil burner than put up with those.
Sir, fortunately my uncle's Rapid Spaceback is not adorned with such extras either, and he is not planning on selling it any time soon either. Please keep your comments clean in the future, though, we don't want any of that talk round here....
@@lloydvehicleconsulting apologies sir, one didn’t mean to lower the tone. The last part of my comment was as gauche as those door handles. I hope Leigh gets rid of the accoutrements, can’t just be me who think it looks a bit dodgy.
Thank you for your future self-censorship, sir!
O.K. for the price.
Yes, my uncle still has his 2017 Rapid Spaceback after six years and has no plans to sell it.
It's just a shame VW have made the Skoda marque so boring. I remember sitting in a new Skoda Fabia some years ago and feeling an overwhelming sensation of depression coming over me at the blandness of the dashboard. I normally like simple, basic design but this just felt life sapping in it's lack of flair in any way.
I ended up buying a second hand Jaguar XF which was joyous. Such a pity that Skoda is just another faceless VW product.
It's quite telling that the Scala that replaced the Rapid is a much better looking, higher quality and better specified car. A Mark II Fabia that I have driven also had a very plain interior, which was most certainly corrected in the Mark IV. Not everyone is really bothered by that sort of thing (my uncle isn't, and will probably have his Rapid Spaceback forever), but my Mark IV Toledo was ever so much nicer than this.
The Skoda Octavia engines are getting smaller and smaller, with massive turbos, which will in a start space of time, hurt the buyer, and make VW regret it.
Yes, the 1.0 TSi engines do not really have the best reputation.
Mr Khan should be wearing a mask and only come out after dark.
If Londoners vote for him they had better be prepared to pay to use their EVs, their bicycles and even charging for the privilege of using Public Transport once they have been forced onto it while fares will automatically double to keep Mr Khan in the luxury that he has become accustomed to.
My Son has already purchased 3 beautiful Mercedes vehicles which have fallen foul of ULEZ Charging from very regretful careful owners.
Sir, there is no doubt at all that the Mayor of London has won himself few friends in the motoring world with his policies. We shall find out soon the results of today's election.