@@carlX53 Well, in short, I love them. Previously I had a pair of SONY WH-CH700N. I can only compare the two. The Sennys have much more defined and deep bass. It's night and day. It's very clear and only reveals distortion in the recording itself. In fact, one of the Sennys faults is that if your recording has any inconsistencies, you're going to hear them much more clearly. The soundstage is fairly wide for closed back cans. I can now hear so many more details in recordings. Songs I have listened to for years sound new or "remixed". Both my old Sonys and the new Sennys use the aptX CODECs (aptX HD in the case of my phone and straight up aptX on my PC (Windows 10 Pro)). I have noticed more lag in movies than before but I was able to offset the audio in Kodi and that issue is solved. No considerable lag when watching something like UA-cam. I haven't tested PC games yet but they seem fine so far. WAPATI out on Kodi resulted in way too overblown a bass response so a switch to DIRECT SOUND solves this issue. Now movies sound amazing and really take advantage of the improved soundstage. The Bluetooth connection is rock solid. I have way more range than with my old Sonys and areas of my house that used to drop out no longer do. Also, my old Sonys would occasionally lose connection for a few seconds every so often, on the random. This is no longer the case. The APP on my Android phone (LG V30 ThinQ) runs really well. I don't think people really understand the APP. You connect it up, adjust your parameters and it's saved to the cans. You don't really have to run the APP after that. So if it does disconnect, it's not a failing of the software, it's just not being used anymore so it disconnects until you need to make more adjustments. The multipoint works without the APP connected, the EQ settings are retained. The multipoint works a charm by the way. I pause content on my PC and play something on my phone and it just switches within a second (and vice versa). I can't live without it now. Yes, these cans are considerably quieter than my old Sonys. I haven't yet come across a situation where they weren't loud enough for me but they do have a much sooner to reach upper limit. As far as the sound, again, if your source is not a great quality you are going to really hear it. They're very analytical in that way. A crunchy, 8 BIT sample is going to stick out like a sore thumb. But if you are listening to a good source, these things just sing. And they sound good with any genre I can throw at it. EDM and Electronic tracks just come alive and the bass is absolutely fantastic. You can almost feel it, like there is a huge subwoofer at your feet. Orchestral music and soundtracks are particularly good. Again, the great soundstage is apparent here. Rock music might want a bit more in the MIDS but, again, this all depends on your source. The mistake to make with these Sennheisers is expecting them to make everything you listen to sound better. Some stuff just doesn't sound good at all and it's because of their revealing nature. A bad mix or a less than quality recording will be amplified just as a good recording would be. It's been three days and I am in love with these things. Keeping in mind that I haven't compared them to the newer Sony offerings, I do recommend them. I hope this helps. 🎧
@@TheDigitalBear thank you for your time, i recently got them and i kinda think the sound quality is a bit overrated tbh, can u maybe share your EQ, maybe that could make it sound 350 dollars worth, ty
this is a great review and explanation of you describing how they sound and about the m4’s. Hoping someday you can also add a sound test on some binaural recordings on those ear and head kinda mannequins/models 😊❤
though the bathys sound better than the m4´s they are also about twice the price of the m4´s, so because of that I think the m4´s are overall a better pick
I have the HD560s with a small Fiio amp/DAC... After trying almost everything, I came to the realization that all the ANC headphones sound like crap.. but are just soooo practical that my Momentum 4 are the ones I use the most ... I think you have to look for the least worst instead of the better ones.
@@cr4zy4christ Haven't tried the M4's with the amp... As for the 560s, i would say the sound in general got 10% better... The bass got a little bit tighter and louder. For example, on some shows I notice that without the amp I couldn't hear the background street noise in the show... With the amp I could hear the background rumble and details of the street noise.
the bathys have spring loaded yokes that affect the pivot of the cups, and on some heads it can create too much jaw pressure. the headband adjustment also seems too short for my head, so i had to extend the headband adjustment nearly all the way, which increases the clamping force, making the first issue even worse. had to send them back. ended up getting the M4, and have had no comfort issues and i actually prefer the sound of the M4 to Bathys.
Great review but for the future please stop muting the audio between sentences! Makes the audio quite unnerving and unenjoyable, don’t let a silly error ruin a great vid
Thanks! We're trying to balance a fairly high level of ambient noise with the general listenability of the video. We've been trying to tweak the noise reduction to sound more natural without making the video sound like we shot it next to a wind tunnel. :)
Agree, got them few weeks ago as an upgrade to my Sennheiser PXC 550-II. Ended up EQing with -1db on bass, +1db mids and +1db treble. Bathys definitely sound much better but then they were much costlier and bulkier.
I own Momentum 3 and I feel very good, they sound really good. In your opinion, should I switch to momentum 4? Would I make a qualitative leap? Thank you
I would jump to the Momentum 4 if something like the improved features or battery-life appealed to you, but I imagine that many people who loved the Momentum 3 will prefer it's slightly more balanced tuning over the bass heavier Momentum 4.
Hey man, you say about more texture in the bass when it's in DAC mode but the device does not have LDAC right ? I can only see aptx HD and adaptive on it but I am no tech guy, if you could explain haha... thanks
So DAC mode is when you have the device plugged directly into a source using the USB cable. That uses the internal DAC on the headphones and the DSP to give you the same tuning as wireless but at a higher resolution since you're wired. Plugging in the with the 3.5mm cable in strict wired mode bypasses the DSP and gives you a different overall sound. Hopefully that makes sense!
Sorry, Sennheiser didn't provide us with an IPX rating or information on water resistance in the specs or product info, and there's nothing in the user manual that I saw.
Surprisingly no. I think the off white color marks dirt and dust really well. One of our staff at Bloom has the Accentum Plus with the same white color, and it seems to mask dirt, dust, and general wear and tear actually better than similar black headphones.
@@BloomAudio wow! Okay, cause i was really debating on the color. The white looks amazing but i was hesitant to buy it because i was afraid of it getting dirty and looking old easily than the black ones. So i was thinking maybe the black would be better than the white. So i guess white would be better than black then!
The sound is definitely great for most modern music, including rock, rap, alternative, and metal, but probably the only complaint we've gotten is that with iPhone in particular, some people aren't able to get it as loud as they want it.
Any advice for increasing the sound on them for an iPhone user? I increased the audio in settings in sound and haptics Love the sound quality but the volume is very underwhelming My AirPod Pro Gen 2 is quite a bit louder 😅
Turn off the bass boost and turn off the wind reduction on the anc and make sure the eq is tuned to your liking. I had the AirPod pro and after tuning I prefer the sound of the seinnheiser’s and they seem a little bit louder
@TheChilator Did you find a solution to this? Haven't pulled the trigger on any over the ear headphones because of this reason. My AirPods Pro 2 I find are louder than the Sony xm5 which are the only ones I've tried and apparently they're louder than the momentum 4 but the Sony xm5 sound horrible imo.
they suck: unbalanced sound (in certain tracks left sounds more than the right driver), small earcups, anc not that good, and internally and aesthetically there's not much of a difference between these and the bt450 which cost around $100
@@geminiwoeI've seen a lot of people mentioning the off-balance issue. Mine don't have that. Have you tried reaching out to Sennheiser for warranty support? I think these come with a two-year warranty.
Having Senn ie600 and HD650 (which i like both extremely) I have ordered M4 as replacement for SONY xm3 1000 (too old + battery not good enough recently) I have to say that I'm bit disappoint. The cans are better than Sony's in many ways (in term of sound quality) but the overall feel is pretty cheep, the volume is too low (you have to keep 85-90% iPhone almost all the time) there are occasional cut-off in music play (rare but they exist) and the app is rudimental. The SQ is rather good but too much bass, bit wailed vocals and not great heights. For a set of ANC Bluetooth is good not great but compare with wired Senns this cans are joke.
The only reviewer to mention a comparison of sound quality to HD500s and HD600s. Thank you!
I ordered my Momentum 4's today. Looking forward to hearing them in action. Thank you for the great review.
pls tell me how they perform if you get them. ty
@@carlX53 Well, in short, I love them.
Previously I had a pair of SONY WH-CH700N. I can only compare the two. The Sennys have much more defined and deep bass. It's night and day. It's very clear and only reveals distortion in the recording itself. In fact, one of the Sennys faults is that if your recording has any inconsistencies, you're going to hear them much more clearly. The soundstage is fairly wide for closed back cans. I can now hear so many more details in recordings. Songs I have listened to for years sound new or "remixed".
Both my old Sonys and the new Sennys use the aptX CODECs (aptX HD in the case of my phone and straight up aptX on my PC (Windows 10 Pro)). I have noticed more lag in movies than before but I was able to offset the audio in Kodi and that issue is solved. No considerable lag when watching something like UA-cam. I haven't tested PC games yet but they seem fine so far. WAPATI out on Kodi resulted in way too overblown a bass response so a switch to DIRECT SOUND solves this issue. Now movies sound amazing and really take advantage of the improved soundstage.
The Bluetooth connection is rock solid. I have way more range than with my old Sonys and areas of my house that used to drop out no longer do. Also, my old Sonys would occasionally lose connection for a few seconds every so often, on the random. This is no longer the case.
The APP on my Android phone (LG V30 ThinQ) runs really well. I don't think people really understand the APP. You connect it up, adjust your parameters and it's saved to the cans. You don't really have to run the APP after that. So if it does disconnect, it's not a failing of the software, it's just not being used anymore so it disconnects until you need to make more adjustments. The multipoint works without the APP connected, the EQ settings are retained.
The multipoint works a charm by the way. I pause content on my PC and play something on my phone and it just switches within a second (and vice versa). I can't live without it now.
Yes, these cans are considerably quieter than my old Sonys. I haven't yet come across a situation where they weren't loud enough for me but they do have a much sooner to reach upper limit.
As far as the sound, again, if your source is not a great quality you are going to really hear it. They're very analytical in that way. A crunchy, 8 BIT sample is going to stick out like a sore thumb. But if you are listening to a good source, these things just sing. And they sound good with any genre I can throw at it. EDM and Electronic tracks just come alive and the bass is absolutely fantastic. You can almost feel it, like there is a huge subwoofer at your feet. Orchestral music and soundtracks are particularly good. Again, the great soundstage is apparent here. Rock music might want a bit more in the MIDS but, again, this all depends on your source.
The mistake to make with these Sennheisers is expecting them to make everything you listen to sound better. Some stuff just doesn't sound good at all and it's because of their revealing nature. A bad mix or a less than quality recording will be amplified just as a good recording would be.
It's been three days and I am in love with these things. Keeping in mind that I haven't compared them to the newer Sony offerings, I do recommend them.
I hope this helps. 🎧
@@TheDigitalBear thank you for your time, i recently got them and i kinda think the sound quality is a bit overrated tbh, can u maybe share your EQ, maybe that could make it sound 350 dollars worth, ty
@@carlX53 I find them a bit quiet
@@carlX53 What headphones have better sound quality?
Excellent review! Far higher quality than I expected for the channel size. Good luck on your channel! Keep up the great reviews!
this is a great review and explanation of you describing how they sound and about the m4’s. Hoping someday you can also add a sound test on some binaural recordings on those ear and head kinda mannequins/models 😊❤
though the bathys sound better than the m4´s they are also about twice the price of the m4´s, so because of that I think the m4´s are overall a better pick
You didn't mention that the App for the Senn's has an EQ section.. and then you can further modify the sound..
I have the HD560s with a small Fiio amp/DAC... After trying almost everything, I came to the realization that all the ANC headphones sound like crap.. but are just soooo practical that my Momentum 4 are the ones I use the most ... I think you have to look for the least worst instead of the better ones.
how did these perform on the dac amp, i love fiio, does the headset get louder and higher quality once the dac is applied? thx so much
@@cr4zy4christ Haven't tried the M4's with the amp... As for the 560s, i would say the sound in general got 10% better... The bass got a little bit tighter and louder. For example, on some shows I notice that without the amp I couldn't hear the background street noise in the show... With the amp I could hear the background rumble and details of the street noise.
@@cr4zy4christ I forgot... Of course they can get like 50 or 70% louder with the amp, to unlistenable levels without distortion.
so true… we just can’t have the cake and eat it too
the bathys have spring loaded yokes that affect the pivot of the cups, and on some heads it can create too much jaw pressure. the headband adjustment also seems too short for my head, so i had to extend the headband adjustment nearly all the way, which increases the clamping force, making the first issue even worse. had to send them back. ended up getting the M4, and have had no comfort issues and i actually prefer the sound of the M4 to Bathys.
Great review but for the future please stop muting the audio between sentences! Makes the audio quite unnerving and unenjoyable, don’t let a silly error ruin a great vid
Thanks! We're trying to balance a fairly high level of ambient noise with the general listenability of the video. We've been trying to tweak the noise reduction to sound more natural without making the video sound like we shot it next to a wind tunnel. :)
Do the momentum 4 headphones have an IP rating?
Great review. Thank you!
I bought them for the spectrum 6hz - 22khz!
Is it better than new launched JBL tour one m2? In terms of sound quality and bass?
Agree, got them few weeks ago as an upgrade to my Sennheiser PXC 550-II. Ended up EQing with -1db on bass, +1db mids and +1db treble.
Bathys definitely sound much better but then they were much costlier and bulkier.
The bathys are in a different league in comparison, but they’re 3x the price.
Bathys are for bathy boys😂
Any advice for setting the EQ for the Momentum 4?
Yeah bass boost off bass and treble all the way up and the middle 1 past the middle
I own Momentum 3 and I feel very good, they sound really good. In your opinion, should I switch to momentum 4? Would I make a qualitative leap? Thank you
I would jump to the Momentum 4 if something like the improved features or battery-life appealed to you, but I imagine that many people who loved the Momentum 3 will prefer it's slightly more balanced tuning over the bass heavier Momentum 4.
@@BloomAudio Thank you for your reply.
It will help me decide.
Hey man, you say about more texture in the bass when it's in DAC mode but the device does not have LDAC right ? I can only see aptx HD and adaptive on it but I am no tech guy, if you could explain haha... thanks
So DAC mode is when you have the device plugged directly into a source using the USB cable. That uses the internal DAC on the headphones and the DSP to give you the same tuning as wireless but at a higher resolution since you're wired. Plugging in the with the 3.5mm cable in strict wired mode bypasses the DSP and gives you a different overall sound. Hopefully that makes sense!
@@BloomAudio tottaly does thanks.
Are they watererresistent? Ipx4 certified?
Sorry, Sennheiser didn't provide us with an IPX rating or information on water resistance in the specs or product info, and there's nothing in the user manual that I saw.
Does the white one get dirty easily?
Surprisingly no. I think the off white color marks dirt and dust really well. One of our staff at Bloom has the Accentum Plus with the same white color, and it seems to mask dirt, dust, and general wear and tear actually better than similar black headphones.
@@BloomAudio wow! Okay, cause i was really debating on the color. The white looks amazing but i was hesitant to buy it because i was afraid of it getting dirty and looking old easily than the black ones.
So i was thinking maybe the black would be better than the white.
So i guess white would be better than black then!
sennheiser momentum 4 v 650s sound quality
Damn I didn’t know Aaron Rodgers did tech reviews
hi sir Sennheiser momentum4 for special Audio Plus 360 surrounded audio availability
I listen to all genres mostly NIN, ALICE IN CHAINS, METALLICA and some rap and house. How does it sound for those and the volume pretty loud?
The sound is definitely great for most modern music, including rock, rap, alternative, and metal, but probably the only complaint we've gotten is that with iPhone in particular, some people aren't able to get it as loud as they want it.
@@BloomAudio o ok well I'm hearing the bowers and Wilkins px8 rocks so I might look into that too
Any advice for increasing the sound on them for an iPhone user?
I increased the audio in settings in sound and haptics
Love the sound quality but the volume is very underwhelming
My AirPod Pro Gen 2 is quite a bit louder 😅
Turn off the bass boost and turn off the wind reduction on the anc and make sure the eq is tuned to your liking. I had the AirPod pro and after tuning I prefer the sound of the seinnheiser’s and they seem a little bit louder
Liar 😂😂😂
@TheChilator Did you find a solution to this? Haven't pulled the trigger on any over the ear headphones because of this reason. My AirPods Pro 2 I find are louder than the Sony xm5 which are the only ones I've tried and apparently they're louder than the momentum 4 but the Sony xm5 sound horrible imo.
Came to check the comments just to see if anyone thinks this guy looks like that Aaron Rodgers
lol yup
they suck: unbalanced sound (in certain tracks left sounds more than the right driver), small earcups, anc not that good, and internally and aesthetically there's not much of a difference between these and the bt450 which cost around $100
I agree with this and they still haven't fixed this through updates
@@geminiwoeI've seen a lot of people mentioning the off-balance issue. Mine don't have that. Have you tried reaching out to Sennheiser for warranty support? I think these come with a two-year warranty.
Having Senn ie600 and HD650 (which i like both extremely) I have ordered M4 as replacement for SONY xm3 1000 (too old + battery not good enough recently) I have to say that I'm bit disappoint. The cans are better than Sony's in many ways (in term of sound quality) but the overall feel is pretty cheep, the volume is too low (you have to keep 85-90% iPhone almost all the time) there are occasional cut-off in music play (rare but they exist) and the app is rudimental. The SQ is rather good but too much bass, bit wailed vocals and not great heights. For a set of ANC Bluetooth is good not great but compare with wired Senns this cans are joke.