Will they now be throwing their phones and clothes in the river considering there made in sweatshops breaking human rights laws basically modern day slavery
True and you cannot rewrite history. Do not forget that a large number of slaves were sold by their fellow beings for profit. The Chinese are writing Tianmen square out of history. The statues should be there for all to discuss and learn from thr past.
Hey, I'm moving to Japan and when I get there I will demand that they tear down many of their oldest monuments because they offend me. Do you think I'll be welcome? 🤦♂️
Analogy is weak. Your being offended as an individual does not equate to the current movement here. Reality is, here, statues will come down. You, Japan, not gonna happen.
It's regrettable to say, but the recent response to the incident that happened in the U.S. is way over the top and is having a negative effect on the way that black people are viewed in this country. Peaceful protests would have been fine and could have upheld social distancing but the riots in London are not having a positive effect as far as race relations go. All the fuss that has been made about every little thing that is remotely (even extremely remotely) 'perceived' as 'racist' is completely out of balance and over-blown. Race relations have been set back 20 years. A fortnight ago everything to do with BLM was just ticking over and things were slowly turning in favour of the bame community but now, with the riots, I think it's a case of ''no steps forward, ten steps back''..
yes it is way over the top and is causing a lot of resentment towards black people. the riots were a step too far and you're right it has set race relations back a long way
If we don’t know our history we won’t know not to make the same mistakes again . If you went in a museum and removed all the things that depicted slavery / torture / evil , there would be hardly any thing to see . There a reminder of how far we’ve come .
Easy. The majority of the population are uneducated so they are easily deceived by whichever candidate decides to be the most nationalist. Applies to every country in the world. You are welcome.
You sir are a misinformed pleb. Your royal family are German descent you do know that? - do you actually know the ACTUAL history of your own 'royal family'? of England's horrible autrocities and colonisation/slavery history? Maybe a good idea to pick up a book/film/historical opinions not made by white people?
What about the 1 million Europeans enslaved by the Barbary Pirates? I don't see any of these idiots in North Africa or indeed Turkey protesting against the enslavement of their own people. Thats not to mention the huge issue of human trafficking that exists in much of the developing World to this day. Either you think slavery is morally inhumane and demeaning, or you don't - fighting the corner for one oppressed group based on the colour of their skin whilst wilfully ignoring all of the others is in and of itself racist.
@@gaz9957 Guess you'll be demanding destruction of all Roman, Norman and Viking buildings next The Germans discussed this together as a democratic nation. What we have is a small minority taking the law into their hands and destroying heritage and history without anyones consent. This is white bored children, there are few black hands to see. BLM has been hijacked, we black people have bigger worries than statues.
@@sarahashun1180 echo that. Wants to hold onto a history and empire that grew out of subjugation and absolute power over other cultures. It's a bloodied culture. However, these remaining vestiges are a reminder of empire and having to face the loss is tough.
or working conditions in Sports Direct or Amazon warehouses! Far too many people have very little left from thier salaries after paying rent or mortgage, bills, travel... No wonder they keep shopping for cheaper clothes and shoes.
@@sanjugunasekara2651 are you thick its called cheap labour there is no difference they get paid pittance while prime mark marks and Spencer sell items on for 100% profit who is the loser there there is no difference .why are all shirts made in India cheap labour in Mark's Mark's and Spencer an average shirt costs around £20+ if you want a decent 1 they don't even pay £5to the machinist who made it .it still is the same in my opinion no country would wear a shirt if it wasn't made in India
I loved watching that Coleston statue fall. Its not that I agree with the protesters or anything. I'm just far more interested in toppled statues than statues standing. It started when I first read my favourite poem of all time - Shelley's 'Ozymandius'. There's an aura about a broken or toppled statue that a standing statue desperately lacks.
So it's okay in 2020 for people of colour to walk the streets alongside statues of their nations genocide. When their kids ask who is that how do they answer and not feel anguish? What do you mean they are a great learning tool? For who and why?
Read! Don't just look at statues.People don't read any more. They don't read history or social history and that leads to prejudice, ignorance and inequality of huge magnitudes.
I am German: there are remains of the berlin wall and also the trace in the ground of the whol city were the wall has been. we also have monuments for the ones we killed in the heart of our capital.
The wall should have stayed because it is part of history. If they had put openings in the wall every 100 meters or so, this would have sufficed. No history EVER should be destroyed, no statue taken down, no streets renamed, etc., etc. because doing so is falsification of history. Countries that don't know their history are here to fail....
@@renataostertag6051 This would be nice for tourists but not for germans. We had after 40 years of GDR also an emotional problem - we had to grow together again. The Wall (Die Mauer) must go. Imagine you had the walls in Northireland not removed. Unfortunately other buildings "Palast der Republik" of GDR were destroyed this was unnecessary.
@Gary Garratt of course their are remains. ko you have a museum about the horrible irish border conflict? i found date about 3400 deths in this conflict - the berlin wall causeed 140 death - even one is to much
The removal of statues, paintings, artworks, books, etc, because they offend some people is a currently contentious issue. We live in a democracy. A vocal minority should not dictate how a society should reward it's past heroes. The decision should be democratic. Here is a simple way of achieving this - Any citizen should be able to start a petition on their local government website to, for example, remove a particular statue. If and when the petition achieves more than 50% of the local constituents, then it should be removed. If it does not achieve more than 50% than the statue should remain, and the petition taken down after a stated period, (say 3 months). Inexpensive, fair, and democratic.
@@Wannawatchthis5555 yes, the same for streets names in France in honor of people involved in the slave trade. Petitions or motions where often unsuccesful i reckon. To be fair it's about few cities like Bordeaux. But the confederate statues in the southern states of the usa are a much sensitive topic.They should be removed and put in a museum with context as to why they where build in the first place.
@@Wannawatchthis5555 agreed. Institutions and councils have been lobbied about these things numerous times. The mood now puts a new impetus behind the call. These institutions will flow with the times. Resiatance is futile.
If people want all statues of colonialism. Then the status of Nelson Mandela should go. As it is tied to colonial times, plus it would make things fair and equally.. That's what anti racism is, equally right?.. His statue should not be treated any different Because he was black 😉
Alan Oh . This is why y'all should learn some history . Nelson Mandela did not colonise Britain. He was imprisoned for asking for the freedom of his country from armed robbers like the British and the Dutch. These statues represent people who became wealthy by raping and brutalising Africans. Since when was it okay to make despicable people role models. I for one want the statues to stay put and their plaques amended to show what low lifers they were. Go and learn the history of your beloved country Alan.
@@rosemaryphorson8064 Talking of history, Rome colonised England in 55BC. Who among the "colonialism was BAD" mob wants to come protest with me outside the Italian embassy in London? We need our reparations here!! Oh, sorry there isn't a cut-off point for this outrage is there...? That's good - see you Saturday!
Statue of Nelson Mandela parliament square should be removed on the grounds of Created a terrorist wing. He later pleaded guilty in court to acts of public violence, and behind bars sanctioned more, including the 1983 Church St car bomb that killed 19 people.
Makes me laugh how ppl are claiming "BLM are acting barbaric same as ISIS" -- NOBODY had any qualms about Saddam Hussein's statue being pulled down as the U.S. stood watch....
I was born in Liverpool. We have worked hard as a city to overcome this rubbish. If you pull stuff down you forget your history....it's then more likely to repeat. Don't destroy your cities and communities and look into the background of who leads protests and why. The only way we change is by living together in our communities and sharing and caring.
joseph baska "There is no difference between tearing down that statue and burning a holocaust museum " Still no. You keep deleting and reposting that foolish claim.
I am German: there are remains of the berlin wall and also the trace in the ground of the whol city were the wall has been. we also have monuments for the ones we killed in the heart of our capital.
History cannot forget them, Also taking them down cannot wipe off the history,but we don't need to see their faces on the street because is a reminder,how did this people locate Africa for God sake,what did they told them or promised them to convinced them about trading human in the name of slave,crime did not start today,no one can deceive me any longer,where did they invest those money they made? African in UK and America need to be compasete for this truma and everlasting slavery history Which has caused racist, and will never go away,
This is ironic, we run out of problems to a level we start thinking in a statue. Well, there is a statue for good and statue for bad, and people could have a different opinion on the same character. There are people who love him and group who hate him, the only right thing to do is to write under the statue both view. this is history. and mean nothings if we remove it or keep it, as well the history will document our position today for years to come. Even Prophets like Jesus some people think he is the symbol of goodness. other seen his fake and violated the law and deserve to die. Therefore, this is a silly problem, and we are not so trivial to this level to discuss statue.
@@sarahashun1180 In this world if you talk the truth you become Child. I know we should be a monster to live in the new world. The Christian ethics bring prosperity to this country and will see new ethics what will bring to this country
@@sarahashun1180 (sorry, english its not my first languaje). Well, since it seems you have a better solution or logic, could you give us an answer? I mean, if you can of course, considering that in one month you havent answered or give an alternative option 🙃
@@emm_arr "Stewpid" - are you a stew? More a Moron. The great Enoch Powell made his speech in April 1968. In this speech he foretold what would happen very very soon, if we don't put our foot down. 2020 is even worse than he has predicted.
Too much time on their hands....you can tell their not serious because they’ve not thought of bringing back Meghan...mixed race member of the royal family....if that’s not progress in 2020 I don’t know what is
Statue of Robert Baden Powell (scout) in Poole. Robert Powell sympathetic to Hitler, writing in his diary of 1939: “Lay up all day. Read Mein Kampf. "A wonderful book, with good ideas on education, health, propaganda, organisation etc.” He was an early admirer of Italian fascist Benito Mussolini. It's hard to defend Robert when he had such people as ideals. In addition, when you add the occupation and slavery by occupant British Empire, there is no defense for this "scout hero". There is clearly a lack of knowledge of the history of people who defend the person of R. Powell. It is possible that they suggest that he did a lot for the scout movement, etc. and all knowledge ends here. It's true history ! Is not matter if you like or not ...sorry . Do not devastate monuments and educate people. By devastating you destroy the truth.
the thing with the TV shows I'm at 3:40 is anyone going mention the Black people playing white characters? Trashy reporting if not (as per) an what about people like me who are mixed raced but have white skin and black siblings etc...are we allowed to mock the Black community for comedy or steriotypical comedy are Black people allowed to make comedy about White people's skin?
@Leftist politics is destroying all civilisation Are you aware that it is not possible to be both liberal and Marxist at the same time? Read a little, it will help.
The views of black rights activists are the only ones Channel 4 ( BBC practically the same ) allows on this subject. The views of white historians, apologists, ordinary white British people never heard.
"ordinary white British people never heard" I am an "ordinary white British" person and you are wrong. You are so stupidly wrong that I have to ask if you post in good faith. Do you? Are you serious?
@@emm_arr Dear MR. No Ch 4 and BBC have not debated subject representing a cross section of views mainly black historians. In places like Bristol, Shrewsbury and Plymouth the opinion of indigenous Brits who have long roots there should be asked. Mob rule by college students and black activists should not dictate what statues stand.
@@anthonylondon3366 You sound strangely non-British there. Russians do that! I am an "ordinary white British" person and I think you are a hate-stirring paid troll.
History’s history you can’t rewrite or ignore it .... white rule ended in Africa and the blacks had their independence and guess what corruption misrule and tribal grievances come to the fore South Africa .. corruption on an industrial scale nepotism murder standard of living for the townships the poor majority in free fall , Rhodesia the same only magabbe give himself ruler for live status Looked after himself family and various cronies and practically bankrupted the state 30 years of misrule nepotism in his 90s still didn’t want to give up the whip hand a lot of his fellow Countrymen fled to the bad evil empire and are happy to escape ... and then there’s Uganda big daddy amin Jesus wept don’t even let me get started ... he expelled the Asians in inself A racist programme many had to settlein the uk without the shirt on their back all confiscated as it happens preeti Patel her parents endured this cleansing attitude .. I’ve only mentioned Three ex empire counties but the rest are more or less the same
Proud of the #UnitedKingdom for being more pro-active in taking a stance and backing it up! The act of seeking #justice is not just replacing white with black faces, it is to acknowledge with respect, the black race by fading out the old colonial mentality; and removing the statutes can begin the healing process. To the family of #GeorgeFloyd, I hope you are proud of these national and international movements since they are evident proof that your beloved did not die in vain. My condolences....🙏🖤🤍🌟
British are not just thinking about black people as less than themselves. I met several people who recognised me as Estern European and they are asking; Where am I working as a babysitter? I am an engineer and working as an engineer but they are looking at me that I am lying. I am finding this rather amusing how they process these facts in their heads. I think it is very difficult for them to comprehend the differences between what they were taught about their big empire and loved believing it and what the reality is actually. But I still think if any nation the British is the one who can rethink and reconsider in a wider scale even if it is tough on them.
Will we reverse the Roman Empire? The Islamic conquest? The Mongols? The invasion of India by the British? The Ottomans taking Constantinople? Could we stop at the tribal level where the conquests were among the same races/cultures though cause I wouldn’t want to go all the way back. Thanks
How about pulling the pyramids in Egypt down, the temple of Apollo in Greece oh let's not forget the colloseum in rome, anything historically offensive. These are historical statues and monuments and if we are educated about them then this is so much better than erasing them, to learn about history is to not repeat it and if Edward colstan had a statue erected in Bristol then he must have been a significant part of the history of that city and if it's now deemed he was a bad man then let's educate the kids about why he was a bad man,what the culture back then was like and why it's much better now and must never be repeated...if a democratic vote is made to remove it then move it but mobs of people toppling statues in the street reminiscent of the toppling of saddhams statue in Iraq is just not on...also time is relevant also, because for instance the Berlin wall,Saddam these are monuments of things that happened very recently and people who suffered under these people, Hitler statues etc, people are still alive and there is real direct offence that can be taken here if a statue or monument is made and erected long before your grandparents have died and there's no one alive that has suffered directly through experience or family members then the answer then is education because I'd history offends then where does all this erasing of historical architecture/sculpture/art end? It's a very complex issue and to allow mob rule and destruction of things in towns and cities is not good.
@I No he sure didn’t mind. They’re making him out to be a Hero! What a Joke!! He was a five time Felon and if he hadn’t died, he would have spent the rest of his miserable stealing life in prison. He’s not the only person who has been killed by the police. There’s been just as many white people killed by cops as black. You don’t see a bunch of white people protesting. These people are going to end up getting covid19. Just wait and see. They’ll be sorry then for all Their stealing and destroying of innocent people’s businesses and lives!!!
@@CMoore8539 Haha you mean just like Boris Johnson will end up getting covid-19 and being sorry for all his stealing and destroying of innocent people’s businesses and lives? Oh, snap!
Will they now be throwing their phones and clothes in the river considering there made in sweatshops breaking human rights laws basically modern day slavery
Mohammed was a slave trader, he was also married to a 9 year old. When do the mosques come down?
True and you cannot rewrite history. Do not forget that a large number of slaves were sold by their fellow beings for profit. The Chinese are writing Tianmen square out of history. The statues should be there for all to discuss and learn from thr past.
@the truth He's right though. We should tear down all the mosques in England, as Mohammad was a paedo and a slave trader.
It’s Shameful!!! These protestors need to be stopped.
No just the ones causing trouble. Where I am they protest peacefully nothing wrong with that.
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Hey, I'm moving to Japan and when I get there I will demand that they tear down many of their oldest monuments because they offend me. Do you think I'll be welcome? 🤦♂️
Analogy is weak. Your being offended as an individual does not equate to the current movement here.
Reality is, here, statues will come down. You, Japan, not gonna happen.
I bet you can't name a single statue in Japan that offends white people
Think you have missed the point Big time🤯
Mohammed was a slave trader, he was also married to a 9 year old. When do the mosques come down?
@@mmtot silly boy. Mohammed actually freed slaves and he married a 9 year old to save her life. Why don't you get off benefits and educate yourself
It's regrettable to say, but the recent response to the incident that happened in the U.S. is way over the top and is having a negative effect on the way that black people are viewed in this country. Peaceful protests would have been fine and could have upheld social distancing but the riots in London are not having a positive effect as far as race relations go. All the fuss that has been made about every little thing that is remotely (even extremely remotely) 'perceived' as 'racist' is completely out of balance and over-blown. Race relations have been set back 20 years. A fortnight ago everything to do with BLM was just ticking over and things were slowly turning in favour of the bame community but now, with the riots, I think it's a case of ''no steps forward, ten steps back''..
yes it is way over the top and is causing a lot of resentment towards black people. the riots were a step too far and you're right it has set race relations back a long way
So you are saying Britain was not racist before, but it is now because of the protests? Hahaha I love the brits! Always so funny!
If we don’t know our history we won’t know not to make the same mistakes again . If you went in a museum and removed all the things that depicted slavery / torture / evil , there would be hardly any thing to see . There a reminder of how far we’ve come .
Leave our history alone without the history you can’t learn from the past and if you can’t learn from the past your destiny is to repeat it
I can't for the life of me think why Labour lost the last election.
read the answers below....scroll down ....and you will see it..
@@JohnHoward_ your lucky that gobshite is my mayor
The conservatives haven’t exactly stopped this sort of thing
Easy. The majority of the population are uneducated so they are easily deceived by whichever candidate decides to be the most nationalist. Applies to every country in the world. You are welcome.
We, the good quiet people, are ALLOWING this thuggery and vandalism to persist.
You sir are a misinformed pleb. Your royal family are German descent you do know that? - do you actually know the ACTUAL history of your own 'royal family'? of England's horrible autrocities and colonisation/slavery history?
Maybe a good idea to pick up a book/film/historical opinions not made by white people?
Mohammed was a slave trader, he was also married to a 9 year old. When do the mosques come down?
@@maxrapinett3972 don't tell them that, they fought off the Nazis all by themselves remember??
Jeremy. I will have a browse at them 👌
@Jack Slater V. You make that claim, but are you "really" good though???
What about the slaves being traded right now in Lybia?
Mohammed was a slave trader, he was also married to a 9 year old. When do the mosques come down?
I'm guessing as that's not white people doing it, that doesn't count.
Far-white lies
Dalena ???
What about the 1 million Europeans enslaved by the Barbary Pirates? I don't see any of these idiots in North Africa or indeed Turkey protesting against the enslavement of their own people. Thats not to mention the huge issue of human trafficking that exists in much of the developing World to this day. Either you think slavery is morally inhumane and demeaning, or you don't - fighting the corner for one oppressed group based on the colour of their skin whilst wilfully ignoring all of the others is in and of itself racist.
Good or bad It's our culture and heritage. We should respect other cultures and they should respect ours. This is dreadful!!!!!
Should Germany have retained its swastika's?
@@gaz9957 Guess you'll be demanding destruction of all Roman, Norman and Viking buildings next
The Germans discussed this together as a democratic nation. What we have is a small minority taking the law into their hands and destroying heritage and history without anyones consent. This is white bored children, there are few black hands to see. BLM has been hijacked, we black people have bigger worries than statues.
Alex Scragg , can you please explain to me what is so respectful about colonialism, imperialism and white supremacy. Are you for real🤔
@@sarahashun1180 echo that.
Wants to hold onto a history and empire that grew out of subjugation and absolute power over other cultures. It's a bloodied culture.
However, these remaining vestiges are a reminder of empire and having to face the loss is tough.
@Brother Spartacus BLM is not about supremecy. Can you point to a BLM source that mentions black supremecy
The existencial crisis was already here. Toppling down Colston’s statue did NOT bring it or started it 🤷🏻♂️
When they go to primark there clothes say made in Bangladesh isn't that slavery were they pay £2 a day for making garments soo cheap
or working conditions in Sports Direct or Amazon warehouses!
Far too many people have very little left from thier salaries after paying rent or mortgage, bills, travel...
No wonder they keep shopping for cheaper clothes and shoes.
Slave wages but slavery you dont get paid to work a very one way street..🤔
To ibraheemahmed. Absolutely agree with you.
Slaves never got paid. Are you really this dumb or just trying to get a rise from people?
@@sanjugunasekara2651 are you thick its called cheap labour there is no difference they get paid pittance while prime mark marks and Spencer sell items on for 100% profit who is the loser there there is no difference .why are all shirts made in India cheap labour in Mark's Mark's and Spencer an average shirt costs around £20+ if you want a decent 1 they don't even pay £5to the machinist who made it .it still is the same in my opinion no country would wear a shirt if it wasn't made in India
I loved watching that Coleston statue fall. Its not that I agree with the protesters or anything. I'm just far more interested in toppled statues than statues standing. It started when I first read my favourite poem of all time - Shelley's 'Ozymandius'. There's an aura about a broken or toppled statue that a standing statue desperately lacks.
Then don’t travel to countries where there are statues 👍
Goodbye
The dude is right...leave most of them there....great learning tool.
Heritage or Structures of hate?
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Beats going to school... Oh
So it's okay in 2020 for people of colour to walk the streets alongside statues of their nations genocide. When their kids ask who is that how do they answer and not feel anguish?
What do you mean they are a great learning tool? For who and why?
Mohammed was a slave trader, he was also married to a 9 year old. When do the mosques come down?
Read! Don't just look at statues.People don't read any more. They don't read history or social history and that leads to prejudice, ignorance and inequality of huge magnitudes.
It is not fair to judge historical figures (including Edward Colston) with the current eyes!
I thought all men were free as of 1775 in England.
I think it was 1833 not entirely sure but England borrowed money to free slaves and we only paid debt off in 2015.
@@fleur3986 shouldnt of paid the debt back
Flowerfly .. You probably are correct. I searched and couldn’t find anything conclusive.
the Jewish emancipation was in 1858, im not sure when blacks were allowed to vote
Ken S Well, I do know women were not allowed to vote in the mid 20s in England unless they owned a business so it might have been after that.
Have you ever seen a parade celebrating slavery in the uk , have you ever had a public holiday in honour of slavery ?
No but it sounds a good idea , start one of those public petition 's demanding a ''Own your neighbour Day''
I thought they were promoting peace and harmony ?
duh..
obviously so hard t get through to u hmm
I am German: there are remains of the berlin wall and also the trace in the ground of the whol city were the wall has been. we also have monuments for the ones we killed in the heart of our capital.
The wall should have stayed because it is part of history. If they had put openings in the wall every 100 meters or so, this would have sufficed.
No history EVER should be destroyed, no statue taken down, no streets renamed, etc., etc. because doing so is falsification of history.
Countries that don't know their history are here to fail....
@@renataostertag6051 This would be nice for tourists but not for germans. We had after 40 years of GDR also an emotional problem - we had to grow together again. The Wall (Die Mauer) must go. Imagine you had the walls in Northireland not removed. Unfortunately other buildings "Palast der Republik" of GDR were destroyed this was unnecessary.
@@renataostertag6051 following your reasoning , should we have Hitler's monument in Berlin streets.
@Gary Garratt of course their are remains. ko you have a museum about the horrible irish border conflict? i found date about 3400 deths in this conflict - the berlin wall causeed 140 death - even one is to much
@@AA-ek5kz yes
Very sad. Good bye england
You won't be missed.
Bye.
@Stephen Docherty I won't miss the US at all. Bye. Well, maybe New Orleans. Bye, anyway.
The removal of statues, paintings, artworks, books, etc, because they offend some people is a currently contentious issue. We live in a democracy. A vocal minority should not dictate how a society should reward it's past heroes. The decision should be democratic.
Here is a simple way of achieving this -
Any citizen should be able to start a petition on their local government website to, for example, remove a particular statue. If and when the petition achieves more than 50% of the local constituents, then it should be removed. If it does not achieve more than 50% than the statue should remain, and the petition taken down after a stated period, (say 3 months).
Inexpensive, fair, and democratic.
I wonder why didn’t these statues bother them earlier?
Dwell Dell There have been countless petitions to have them removed but even though there were enough signatures, it has always been rejected.
@@Wannawatchthis5555 yes, the same for streets names in France in honor of people involved in the slave trade. Petitions or motions where often unsuccesful i reckon. To be fair it's about few cities like Bordeaux. But the confederate statues in the southern states of the usa are a much sensitive topic.They should be removed and put in a museum with context as to why they where build in the first place.
@@Wannawatchthis5555 agreed.
Institutions and councils have been lobbied about these things numerous times.
The mood now puts a new impetus behind the call.
These institutions will flow with the times.
Resiatance is futile.
@@Wannawatchthis5555 as they rightly should be!
"Controversial" is a gross euphemism to use for someone who made his fortune from selling people.
If people want all statues of colonialism.
Then the status of Nelson Mandela should go.
As it is tied to colonial times, plus it would make things fair and equally.. That's what anti racism is, equally right?.. His statue should not be treated any different Because he was black 😉
You are historically illiterate. South Africa wasn't a colony, it was independent from Britain when he was fighting against apartheid.
Alan Oh . This is why y'all should learn some history . Nelson Mandela did not colonise Britain. He was imprisoned for asking for the freedom of his country from armed robbers like the British and the Dutch. These statues represent people who became wealthy by raping and brutalising Africans. Since when was it okay to make despicable people role models. I for one want the statues to stay put and their plaques amended to show what low lifers they were. Go and learn the history of your beloved country Alan.
@@rosemaryphorson8064 Talking of history, Rome colonised England in 55BC. Who among the "colonialism was BAD" mob wants to come protest with me outside the Italian embassy in London? We need our reparations here!! Oh, sorry there isn't a cut-off point for this outrage is there...? That's good - see you Saturday!
He would not of been the person he was if the UK did not colonise South Africa. 😉
@@evilution1254 It's your problem if you choose to note take it up with the Romans.
Statue of Nelson Mandela parliament square should be removed on the grounds of
Created a terrorist wing.
He later pleaded guilty in court to acts of public violence, and behind bars sanctioned more, including the 1983 Church St car bomb that killed 19 people.
What a time to be alive! Wonderful!
Just like that Saddams statue was dropped wow history is repeating itself in front everyone's eyes
Does this mean that we have to destroy the Colisseum and the Pyramids of Giza too?
The pyramids were not built by slaves. We know this. Why don't you?
@@emm_arr I didn't know that. We who?
@@tudortalpa9431 We? Humans who know. They know more than humans who do not know.
@@emm_arr Of course they were
@@acptelford1307 Seemingly not. The pyramids were not built by slaves. We know this. Why don't you?
Question is Why is this happening now ?
Triggered by events
@Who Knew 22 it’s been caused by white people being racist.
in Liverpool everywhere you look there always seem to be a guy standing in front of a door
Makes me laugh how ppl are claiming "BLM are acting barbaric same as ISIS" -- NOBODY had any qualms about Saddam Hussein's statue being pulled down as the U.S. stood watch....
Statues that are not taken down...should at least be repositioned at ground level.
They do not deserve to be on high mounts and plinths.
I was born in Liverpool. We have worked hard as a city to overcome this rubbish. If you pull stuff down you forget your history....it's then more likely to repeat. Don't destroy your cities and communities and look into the background of who leads protests and why. The only way we change is by living together in our communities and sharing and caring.
Tell that to Germany next time you're there.
@@gaz9957 I'll leave that to you
Diversity is division. Unity is strength. You can't have unity in a multi-kulti society.
@@jameswhiteley6843Bulcrap. Tell that to Rome, the greatest Empire that ever existed.
@@Diovanlestat and broke down as a result to conflict due to different race and religions living in Rome.
We are not the United states of America.
did this change anything?
Absolutely nothing
If anything it makes you more racist
Mohammed was a slave trader, he was also married to a 9 year old. When do the mosques come down?
@@mmtot slave treader?lolzz..where did u get that?so we are talking about religion now?not race equlity anymore?hahahH
Getting way out of hand
Great video. Channel 4 doing it's bit to raise racial awareness
joseph baska "There is no difference between tearing down that statue and burning a holocaust museum "
Still no. You keep deleting and reposting that foolish claim.
The next statue to be thrown into the river is Mandela .
Let’s rebuild the Berlin Wall .... this is absurd
I am German: there are remains of the berlin wall and also the trace in the ground of the whol city were the wall has been. we also have monuments for the ones we killed in the heart of our capital.
I wonder why didn’t these statues bother them earlier
They've bothered many people for a long time. Try to keep up in future
History cannot forget them, Also taking them down cannot wipe off the history,but we don't need to see their faces on the street because is a reminder,how did this people locate Africa for God sake,what did they told them or promised them to convinced them about trading human in the name of slave,crime did not start today,no one can deceive me any longer,where did they invest those money they made? African in UK and America need to be compasete for this truma and everlasting slavery history Which has caused racist, and will never go away,
This is ironic, we run out of problems to a level we start thinking in a statue. Well, there is a statue for good and statue for bad, and people could have a different opinion on the same character. There are people who love him and group who hate him, the only right thing to do is to write under the statue both view. this is history. and mean nothings if we remove it or keep it, as well the history will document our position today for years to come. Even Prophets like Jesus some people think he is the symbol of goodness. other seen his fake and violated the law and deserve to die. Therefore, this is a silly problem, and we are not so trivial to this level to discuss statue.
BJFA , Please don’t give up your day job, you’re logic is very child like🤪😂🤣
@@sarahashun1180 In this world if you talk the truth you become Child. I know we should be a monster to live in the new world. The Christian ethics bring prosperity to this country and will see new ethics what will bring to this country
@@sarahashun1180 (sorry, english its not my first languaje).
Well, since it seems you have a better solution or logic, could you give us an answer? I mean, if you can of course, considering that in one month you havent answered or give an alternative option 🙃
Enochs statements have all materialised
In English?
Yep - was foreseeable in 1968 !
@@renataostertag6051 Stewpid comment.
@@renataostertag6051 couple of comments down and you show yourself as the right racist you are
@@emm_arr "Stewpid" - are you a stew? More a Moron. The great Enoch Powell made his speech in April 1968.
In this speech he foretold what would happen very very soon, if we don't put our foot down.
2020 is even worse than he has predicted.
Too much time on their hands....you can tell their not serious because they’ve not thought of bringing back Meghan...mixed race member of the royal family....if that’s not progress in 2020 I don’t know what is
Statue of Robert Baden Powell (scout) in Poole.
Robert Powell sympathetic to Hitler, writing in his diary of 1939: “Lay up all day. Read Mein Kampf.
"A wonderful book, with good ideas on education, health, propaganda, organisation etc.”
He was an early admirer of Italian fascist Benito Mussolini.
It's hard to defend Robert when he had such people as ideals.
In addition, when you add the occupation and slavery by occupant British Empire, there is no defense for this "scout hero". There is clearly a lack of knowledge of the history of people who defend the person of R. Powell. It is possible that they suggest that he did a lot for the scout movement, etc. and all knowledge ends here.
It's true history ! Is not matter if you like or not ...sorry .
Do not devastate monuments and educate people. By devastating you destroy the truth.
the thing with the TV shows I'm at 3:40 is anyone going mention the Black people playing white characters? Trashy reporting if not (as per) an what about people like me who are mixed raced but have white skin and black siblings etc...are we allowed to mock the Black community for comedy or steriotypical comedy are Black people allowed to make comedy about White people's skin?
Get rid of the Cromwell statue
Wouldn’t it be ironic if these people who destroyed this statue we’re caught and sentenced to unpaid work
Unpaid work putting the same statue back up would be best with a new plaque saying it had been knocked down by a senseless mob.
Lolz - it's not much fun now the rabbit's got the gun...
@ukn leo1 But then they would not be able to pay tax in Britain and there would not be any money to pay your benefits, so you would starve.
@Leftist politics is destroying all civilisation Are you aware that it is not possible to be both liberal and Marxist at the same time? Read a little, it will help.
We should be putting up real heroes or leaders, such as Harriet Tubman
The views of black rights activists are the only ones Channel 4 ( BBC practically the same ) allows on this subject. The views of white historians, apologists, ordinary white British people never heard.
"ordinary white British people never heard" I am an "ordinary white British" person and you are wrong. You are so stupidly wrong that I have to ask if you post in good faith. Do you? Are you serious?
@Stephen Docherty Nope. I am an "ordinary white British" person and you are wrong.
Do you post in good faith?
@Stephen Docherty Nope. I am an "ordinary white British" person.
Do you post in good faith? It looks like you are deceitful. I see you.
@@emm_arr Dear MR. No Ch 4 and BBC have not debated subject representing a cross section of views mainly black historians. In places like Bristol, Shrewsbury and Plymouth the opinion of indigenous Brits who have long roots there should be asked. Mob rule by college students and black activists should not dictate what statues stand.
@@anthonylondon3366 You sound strangely non-British there. Russians do that!
I am an "ordinary white British" person and I think you are a hate-stirring paid troll.
Attitudes need to change
History’s history you can’t rewrite or ignore it .... white rule ended in Africa and the blacks had their independence and guess what corruption misrule and tribal grievances come to the fore
South Africa .. corruption on an industrial scale nepotism murder standard of living for the townships the poor majority in free fall , Rhodesia the same only magabbe give himself ruler for live status
Looked after himself family and various cronies and practically bankrupted the state 30 years of misrule nepotism in his 90s still didn’t want to give up the whip hand a lot of his fellow
Countrymen fled to the bad evil empire and are happy to escape ... and then there’s Uganda big daddy amin Jesus wept don’t even let me get started ... he expelled the Asians in inself
A racist programme many had to settlein the uk without the shirt on their back all confiscated as it happens preeti Patel her parents endured this cleansing attitude .. I’ve only mentioned
Three ex empire counties but the rest are more or less the same
What about antisemitism, are they going to take down the Martin Luther King Jr statue at Westminster abbey?
Anarchy this is war
sick and tired of this
That's so sad
comment deleated, guess i don't have the C4 'right think'
Proud of the #UnitedKingdom for being more pro-active in taking a stance and backing it up! The act of seeking #justice is not just replacing white with black faces, it is to acknowledge with respect, the black race by fading out the old colonial mentality; and removing the statutes can begin the healing process. To the family of #GeorgeFloyd, I hope you are proud of these national and international movements since they are evident proof that your beloved did not die in vain. My condolences....🙏🖤🤍🌟
Better keep museums closed. They're probably next.
I first handedly been victim of police discrimination, it still exists in the UK and the police watchdog are "blind" to it
Am a victim at work and my son at school a 10 year old
Trust everyone in the crowd? Bottom line is some people lie.
poor council going to have slave owners in my run down town centre
Maybe the tide is turning decent people showed up to defend a statue in Dorset , trouble is the smelly socks and immigrant ingrates will turn violent
Racism in the UK is so out in the open people in the USA are pussies and never come out
It sounds so sarcastic the way the reporters and Ministers are saying ''Black Lives Matter'' in this Video.
British are not just thinking about black people as less than themselves. I met several people who recognised me as Estern European and they are asking; Where am I working as a babysitter? I am an engineer and working as an engineer but they are looking at me that I am lying. I am finding this rather amusing how they process these facts in their heads. I think it is very difficult for them to comprehend the differences between what they were taught about their big empire and loved believing it and what the reality is actually. But I still think if any nation the British is the one who can rethink and reconsider in a wider scale even if it is tough on them.
Not all British would assume you are a baby sitter for gods sake! You must mix with some thick people.
#BLACKLIVESMATTER
@I The revolution has started, gen Z will take on the system and make a more just and fair society for everyone
They belong in Museums not the streets.
You belong 6 feet under
Will we reverse the Roman Empire? The Islamic conquest? The Mongols? The invasion of India by the British? The Ottomans taking Constantinople? Could we stop at the tribal level where the conquests were among the same races/cultures though cause I wouldn’t want to go all the way back. Thanks
How about pulling the pyramids in Egypt down, the temple of Apollo in Greece oh let's not forget the colloseum in rome, anything historically offensive. These are historical statues and monuments and if we are educated about them then this is so much better than erasing them, to learn about history is to not repeat it and if Edward colstan had a statue erected in Bristol then he must have been a significant part of the history of that city and if it's now deemed he was a bad man then let's educate the kids about why he was a bad man,what the culture back then was like and why it's much better now and must never be repeated...if a democratic vote is made to remove it then move it but mobs of people toppling statues in the street reminiscent of the toppling of saddhams statue in Iraq is just not on...also time is relevant also, because for instance the Berlin wall,Saddam these are monuments of things that happened very recently and people who suffered under these people, Hitler statues etc, people are still alive and there is real direct offence that can be taken here if a statue or monument is made and erected long before your grandparents have died and there's no one alive that has suffered directly through experience or family members then the answer then is education because I'd history offends then where does all this erasing of historical architecture/sculpture/art end? It's a very complex issue and to allow mob rule and destruction of things in towns and cities is not good.
Pls do not use of flag of justice to do bad things!
Channel 4 anti UK story. Shock.
Education is the key tel the l true story
George would be proud his life wasn’t lost in vain
@I No he sure didn’t mind. They’re making him out to be a Hero! What a Joke!! He was a five time Felon and if he hadn’t died, he would have spent the rest of his miserable stealing life in prison. He’s not the only person who has been killed by the police. There’s been just as many white people killed by cops as black. You don’t see a bunch of white people protesting. These people are going to end up getting covid19. Just wait and see. They’ll be sorry then for all Their stealing and destroying of innocent people’s businesses and lives!!!
@@CMoore8539 Haha you mean just like Boris Johnson will end up getting covid-19 and being sorry for all his stealing and destroying of innocent people’s businesses and lives? Oh, snap!
Bravo you Britain’s ... 💙💙👏🏾 take that mess down!
0:40 #spellingmatters
6:20 lol what.. good point tho
Good