@@ZONE-fj8ly when did class get into this? The statue is the history and so is the book, just because you can’t bring a statue into a class doesn’t mean you rip it down for a reason that is completely stupid
@@samd1032 You're missing the entire point of the analogy and the problems of glorifying human traffickers with statues of them. Ripping statues down is not the same thing as erasing history than to remind people to stop glorifying slavery.
@@ZONE-fj8ly I’m saying the statue is history, it’s been standing there for centuries and I don’t care if it’s slavery or not that’s their problem I just like it because it’s become a part of the area it should be torn down based on someone getting annoyed over events that occurred 200 years ago
@@ZONE-fj8ly Those historical statues weren't put there to glorify slavery but the good things they did. And they did do great things, racist views was only one aspect of there character.
@Syphax Atlas Yeah but we tore those statues down because he was a psychopathic genocidal monster. These guys are just tearing down statues over a hypocritical movement that harms more people than they help.
@Syphax Atlas Given the death toll and horrible experiments that went on during the holocaust alone i extremely doubt that Winston Churchill was worse than Hitler.
@@k.s.104 Well i still think tearing down his statues and hiding history under the rug isn't going to solve anything. It just gives asshole news stations more ammunition to paint people as terrorists and cause more chaos.
@@afca3172 it actually makes me feel sick at how some of these people don't value our history and traditions anymore, people just need to learn to be proud of their country's achievements again.
@@samuelchristie9448 Ur so right. Sadly the generation going toward are doomed down a dark path. They have no respect for those who came before them, for those who risked their lives to have future for usp, for traditions and sense of place. They are too self absorbed and technology obsessed.
These acts are a sign that young generations are unable for confront reality. They act as spoiled children. As internal barbarians ( The Decline of the West; O.Spengler)
Statues of men who did bad deeds, but then did good deeds, destroyed. All inspired by an ex-con who was turning his life around. Seems like only men of a certain complexion are given a second (or ninth) chance.
@@greensprite6067 no way justified at all what did those people ever do to you or anyone alive today ? Nothing because it was years ago. It's history end of the day and surley the way go go abouts geeting stuff removed Is not by just doing it ur self go through the legal channels to get this done. The fact that its justified in your head concern me your worried about what happened hundreds of years ago than looking at what is happening now. Open your eyes this is not okay.
When they destroyed an elk statue in Portland, it's clear that they are just like those cartoon villains that forget their original motive, they are just destroying statues for fun.
Robert E Lee freed all his slaves. He was a very good Christian man. Lincoln wanted to send the slaves back across the ocean. God and Virgin Mary help this country. We all come from ancestors who were slaves. I'm Lebanese and Hispanic, my ancestors were salves yet I don't go around tearing down statues of past historic people. When my dad was little his family had an African American housekeeper, yet they were treated fairly and everything was peaceful.
@@WanderingThought Not a single person left alive from those times today. No one can claim to know their pain anymore, doing so is disrespectful to the people who actually suffered.
Also Tadeusz Kościuszko donated his reward for war effort to rescue and educate black people. He also had good relations with natives, he even got tomahawk from the "small turtle".
@Syphax Atlas it was a concept evolving over time, and Christianity was neither an instant reform to make situation better, nor equally bad to other religions of middle east such as Zoroastrianism. Here's an example: in ancient times, it was common practice for tribes living in modern day middle east to slaughter all members of a conquered tribe "for the benefit of their own tribe". The first people to change it were actually Jews. It's described in the bible, that when they were conquering promised land after escaping from Egyptian slavery, they were instructed to slaughter men but spare unmarried women (If I remember correctly). It was a part of a longer process, designed to slowly shift the perception of those people away from "Care for my tribe and kill other tribes", and eventually Christianity was created and, in the next 2000 years, reformed into various Christian faiths we know today, not all of them good, especially not in the USA, but still overall having positive effect on the world in my opinion.
@@4756134 History is made by people. Events couldn't take place without the participation of people. When I see a statue of Churchill, I think of his leadership during WW2. When I see Columbus, I think of the Explorations. Those statues commemorate the good those people did. It doesn't glorify them as practically perfect in every way.
@@4756134 Concentrating on one aspect again. Churchill is commemorated for a reason. He is seen as a hero in Britain of WW2. And those who u say payed to have statues erected needed permission and didn't face opposition when they did
@@4756134 Then why are u on about confederacy. Those statues weren't put there to glorify racism. U can't blame historical figures for the times they lived in and what influenced their views.
Seeing those statues removed of vandalized made me upset and sad. Not all statues of a great persons or figures are perfect & had bad, horrible things but it represents both the rights & wrongs of history in the past. "If we can't learn the past, we can't move on."
@@GadgetsHigh I mean let's be real statues arnt there just so they can be celebrated. It's showing what happened and how they have a significant part to play. Weather u like it or not what happened happened and u can't change that by toppling statues. Churchills dead. No revenge has been done by toppling a statue as it doesn't change the past.
It is that ignorance that has perpetuated hate and systemic Racism. Well done you. You are proof positive of the point my Parents were teaching me as a child. Thank God for my "Snowflake" Parents.
Removing history children, does not remove the past. Running around dragging statues down is childish lawlessness and has nothing to do with political betterment for mankind.
next is going to "TEAR DOWN" and reform this "Babylonian magic system" The oppressed will RISE!! This system can kill us but never STOP us. Remember that son!
@Lynn Boudreau hahaha yes it's a giant conspiracy to teach a full history that includes the sins of our forefathers. Columbus was a genocidal pos even by the standards of his own day.
@Lynn Boudreau "until Common Core education filled the childrens' heads full of lies" please can you provide some examples of these lies ? maybe - it is the other way around - that this statues celebrating vicious tyrants without detailing their crimes - is really the obscene half-truth that amounts to a ghastly lie ??
The key to these protests to enact reform. But the real reform starts in the mind. And the removal of these monuments is an excellent start to that mental reform.
This is heart breaking. History is the most important thing. Because without it we don’t learn from it and the sins of the fathers will come back to haunt us. History is shades of grey and always be viewed with nuance. These people who are defiling history are as bad as isis who eradicated their history their monuments of of ages of nearly a thousand years old. We live in dark times and the only way through this is not with violence nor hate from either side but peaceful discourse as this is only way things get done with debate. History is very important defacing the cenotaph a monument dedicated for the men and women who died for your freedom who died to make sure their children and their children’s children could live in a place without fear of tyranny and they spit on their memory was their sacrifice worth this treatment i know it wasn’t. It’s heart breaking. They say they are woke . They could not be more blind. They need to wake up and expand their mind and see the full picture of history. It breaks my heart. Lest We Forget our glorious dead.
The government should also put up status of lynched black man and those that fought for freedom , the status of slaves that worked their backs off for the development of American
Statues do not represent history, they represent the dominion of whatever faction is in power. They glorified slavers and other evil-doers, now they are paying the price.
@@1Buttonmasher Yes statues do represent history, they are public visible reminders of a place, era or event. A Churchill statue is a reminder of WW2, a Columbus statue is a reminder of Explorations etc.
Nobody should be allowed to take down our statues or deface our monuments. They belong to the British people not to young uneducated yobs!!!! And Sadiq Kahn can follow this statue into the river. If you want to change society, we have a democracy, you can vote for a change, not use violence.
You're conveniently forgetting the fact that over 11,000 Bristol residents had signed a petition for the removal of the Colston statue. A petition that was ignored by the council, who favoured a plaque explaining Colston's history. Only problem being they couldn't agree on the wording and pretty much abandoned the idea after months of arguements amongst themselves. Proof that democracy doesn't always work when dealing with an organisation entrenched in bureaucracy.
@@anxioussmurf2057 Bristol's popluation is near to 700,000. A petition signed by 11,000, roughly 1.5% of the popluation is maybe why the staue wasn't removed. For you to say it's proof that democracy doesn't work is absolutely hilarious and shows your intelligence.
Don’t destroy Winston Churchill’s statue, you should build more. I mean if it weren’t for him we would be speaking German. He was one of Britain’s best prime ministers
The reason for history, is not to remember it but to learn from it. Defacing statues isn't doing both but doing something worse, forgetting it and pleading ignorance
Knocking down and vandalising historical statues like this is a bit much and not the answer. They are part of place. History can't be rewritten, only acknowledged and learned from. These statues represent the good these people did. Yes these people held certain views that wouldn't be considered acceptable to us and rightly so but they came from a different era. That was then this is now.
Sir Jimmy Saville was a great British example. It should never have been taken down or demolished !! It appears as if, we love and adore "Nefarious Characters," from history and place them on "Pedestals of Power" !!! Am I correct in saying this ???
Have any of you seen that painting of the Barbarians toppling that Roman statue? Yeah this is like that; I don't think I'm being too overdramatic comparing this to the toppling of statues during the fall of Rome.
I'm sorry, Confederate people, but this is how it's going to be. We have to teach everyone not to worship bad statues by the looks of it all Christopher clombus wasn't a statue of honor either anyway.
General Lee was a Confederate only because his state was. That's the very reason he is revered and praised. His love was for his state, not the Confederacy.
Doesn't it just make you spill your latte? I'm sorry that other people fighting for the right to be treated as equals is so mildly inconvenient to you, it must be a real hardship, having to watch it on the news from the perilous front lines of your sitting room.
They are straight out by of Hitler's timeline. They Believe it will ruin the Elections. But in reality it will just get them in prison. This isn't the 1930's.
theSTUNTHAMSTER They’re there to give us a reminder and educate us about these historical events that actually happened. You have to acknowledge both the good and bad of what makes up our nation’s history. Gender Studies doesn’t make anyone smarter.
@@Neil-Aspinall No point arguing. He thinks he had never sinned in his life. He thinks if he had lived in those times of slavery that he would be different and even greater than these people we built statues for.
All of those statues should have been removed many many years ago. It's happening now because it's way way way past due. We can't forget history if it's still not done writing itself
Statues is for people who achieved greatness in life, which impacted a nation or the world in a positive way. Not for slave traders or genociders 🤷♂️ you have got history museums to keep these statues of people who committed atrocities to the world where every generation will have the chance to learn about
@@gerrabath Because I am simply an elderly woman (71) in America who cares about the safety of all children, and I abhor violence. Why don't you start another letter writing campaign to get BBC to remove that pedophilic statue? They have been asked many times before but BBC has no shame. P.S. to Celtic Warrior. Thank you.
So what's next? Are you going to take them out of textbooks? Censor the internet? ~George Santayana "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
“Mussolini’s designs upon Abyssinia were unsuited to the ethics of the twentieth century. They belonged to those dark ages when white men felt themselves entitled to conquer yellow, brown, black, or red men, and subjugate them by their superior strength and weapons.” - Quote from Sir Winston Churchill. “The Gathering Storm”, book about the beginnings of WWII. So much for being a racist.
@@celticwarrior9123 he certainly does without doubt. All these idiots are snowflakes. It's absolutely pathetic. I'm Irish. And I do t want to see any history erased. Plus these dickheads are acting like the statues are people. 🤦🏻♂️
Halfblood 3 first of all Churchill was a hero second of all if you lived in 1492 you would also be a racist bigot, so Columbus simply had a mentality that people had back then
My family have been loyal citizens for over 50 years. I’m ashamed of the people who share my ethnic roots (Indian) and the others who disrespect our national hero. My family are so proud of what Britain did during Her prime. The pathetic cowards who defaced the statue and their supporters only make me more proud of the English flag on my wall. God bless England 🏴.
Even though churchill had did some things that could offended someone, he did put WW2 to a stop and thats something to be proud of. Idk maybe place his statue in a museum. Destroying it just destroys evidence.
The United States would have done nothing because it could not have reached Germany if the United Kingdom had capitulated, and Germany could move more divisions to the East because Britain is no longer a threat, the Americans have successfully landed in Sicily from the lands African occupied by the British and landed in Normandy from Great Britain, the United States would have done nothing if the British Empire surrendered, this means that the Wehrmacht is concentrated in the eastern front which means the Soviets could lose possibly, WW2 was made with teamwork and if Churchill surrendered probably WW2 would ended in a stalemate, the fascists would still be in power and big piece of Europe would be speaking german by now, so please, learn history and shut your mouth.
@@hackman669 Except that's not what we're talking about. Rioters tear them down and throw them in rivers not museums. Put Winston Churchill on proud display. I don't care if you facists wanna cry when you see him.
You say your ancestors might have been slaves in Bristol, so do that mean if it wasn't for the slave trade, the chances are you would not have become Lord Mayor of Bristol, so if that's the case are you going to resign your position as mayor of Bristol
Sarah McGuinnes Im only writing because I am so fed up of being called a racist, for voting Brexit, for saying all lives matter, for saying I'm proud to be British, and saying it's wrong to try and change our history, what do these people want from us, have you heard one argument that the , well I feel chavs is to polite for them want from us
@@cinderball1135 No it's called control. I have had comments deleted when I haven't said anything offensive at all. Expressing the way I think in a non offensive manner.
@@RayzaEFC Uhuh. If you call in a bomb threat, whether you swore is going to be the least of anybody's concern. Sometimes, it's the content of what you say that is the problem - not the way you phrased it.
Leave the statues where they are, regardless of whether you liked what they did when they were alive. Or you could just leave the country and I am talking to white people too, not just non whites. 😉✌
We did more than that, if you remember the community outreach just after, the petitions, how we represent them at carnival every year etc, when I went to protest last week we chanted for them so don’t try it
Millions died globally while plunder , oppression and domination still going on.... Free Assange ❗️ Make Wars & Economical Sanctions Illegal ‼️ Investigate 9/11
You don’t remove history you learn from it
You don't bring statues to history class, you bring books.
@@ZONE-fj8ly when did class get into this? The statue is the history and so is the book, just because you can’t bring a statue into a class doesn’t mean you rip it down for a reason that is completely stupid
@@samd1032 You're missing the entire point of the analogy and the problems of glorifying human traffickers with statues of them. Ripping statues down is not the same thing as erasing history than to remind people to stop glorifying slavery.
@@ZONE-fj8ly I’m saying the statue is history, it’s been standing there for centuries and I don’t care if it’s slavery or not that’s their problem I just like it because it’s become a part of the area it should be torn down based on someone getting annoyed over events that occurred 200 years ago
@@ZONE-fj8ly Those historical statues weren't put there to glorify slavery but the good things they did. And they did do great things, racist views was only one aspect of there character.
*"Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it"- Winston Churchill*
They targeted his statue too. Nothing is sacred anymore
@Syphax Atlas Yeah but we tore those statues down because he was a psychopathic genocidal monster. These guys are just tearing down statues over a hypocritical movement that harms more people than they help.
@Syphax Atlas Given the death toll and horrible experiments that went on during the holocaust alone i extremely doubt that Winston Churchill was worse than Hitler.
@@iamsinistar8971 As for you, you’ve got a lot of learning to do buddy.
@@k.s.104 Well i still think tearing down his statues and hiding history under the rug isn't going to solve anything. It just gives asshole news stations more ammunition to paint people as terrorists and cause more chaos.
Our grandfather's & great grandfather's didn't fight a world war for this to happen.. I'm so ashamed to be a millennial. 🤦🏻♂️
It need to be stopped where is the nationalism and patriotism in people😭😭
@@afca3172 it actually makes me feel sick at how some of these people don't value our history and traditions anymore, people just need to learn to be proud of their country's achievements again.
@@samuelchristie9448 Ur so right. Sadly the generation going toward are doomed down a dark path. They have no respect for those who came before them, for those who risked their lives to have future for usp, for traditions and sense of place. They are too self absorbed and technology obsessed.
@@afca3172 I know, it's sad. If anyone took a stand u just know the race card would be used against them.
They weren't fighting to protect some statues
"Who controls the past controls the future, Who controls the present controls the past" - 1984
yes.. so long past time to pull these monuments down or at least allow people to redecorate them..
These acts are a sign that young generations are unable for confront reality. They act as spoiled children. As internal barbarians ( The Decline of the West; O.Spengler)
They can try
@@cosuinofdeath
The history shows that this is a receipt for failure.
I doubt a lot of these protesters actually care for the cause or understand it. Just an excuse to destroy historical statues and remove history.
Churchill: Defending the world form the most cruel dictator since ever and saving millions of lifes
These people:
"Eh, you know, racist. Buh."
Bc he killed millions of Indians
He wasn’t perfect, the Bengali Famine comes to mind. But yeah I definitely disagree with taking the statue down.
the statue in the Netherlands wasn't even a racist character
Remember the world is a pendulum eventually this will all come back to bite you.
it's exactly what is going on now
I totally agree. Living a lie as represented by these monuments is nothing more than a house of cards doomed to fall.
Statues of men who did bad deeds, but then did good deeds, destroyed. All inspired by an ex-con who was turning his life around. Seems like only men of a certain complexion are given a second (or ninth) chance.
@Joey Harper We need to remove ALL statues of slavery and racial inequality. Including Rosa Park's and Martin Luther King's
@@unclealbert9257 imagine the one that toppled down the statues got a curse like the curse of the colonel in Japan
I feel like no-one really talks about the artist who spent their time on creating a piece of art just for it to get destroyed. What a shame
Exactly 💯 %
Exactly. Regardless of what or who the statue depicts. It's art created by an artist
I agree with you
the vandalism is justified because those are statues of racist people
@@greensprite6067 no way justified at all what did those people ever do to you or anyone alive today ? Nothing because it was years ago. It's history end of the day and surley the way go go abouts geeting stuff removed Is not by just doing it ur self go through the legal channels to get this done. The fact that its justified in your head concern me your worried about what happened hundreds of years ago than looking at what is happening now. Open your eyes this is not okay.
When they destroyed an elk statue in Portland, it's clear that they are just like those cartoon villains that forget their original motive, they are just destroying statues for fun.
Robert E Lee freed all his slaves. He was a very good Christian man. Lincoln wanted to send the slaves back across the ocean. God and Virgin Mary help this country. We all come from ancestors who were slaves. I'm Lebanese and Hispanic, my ancestors were salves yet I don't go around tearing down statues of past historic people. When my dad was little his family had an African American housekeeper, yet they were treated fairly and everything was peaceful.
Everyone's pain is different
@@WanderingThought Not a single person left alive from those times today. No one can claim to know their pain anymore, doing so is disrespectful to the people who actually suffered.
Also Tadeusz Kościuszko donated his reward for war effort to rescue and educate black people. He also had good relations with natives, he even got tomahawk from the "small turtle".
Shame Lincoln didn't.
@ freshbrewedasmr3378
But slavery is still wrong, you know
That's from the bible. God freed his people from egypt besides beware the KKKs.
The man at the beginning says it perfectly: "if you remove the evidence - You remove the deed".
Nothing can be erased from the eyes of the lord.
Judging people from literally centuries past based on our modern morality.
Disgusting.
@Syphax Atlas it was a concept evolving over time, and Christianity was neither an instant reform to make situation better, nor equally bad to other religions of middle east such as Zoroastrianism.
Here's an example: in ancient times, it was common practice for tribes living in modern day middle east to slaughter all members of a conquered tribe "for the benefit of their own tribe". The first people to change it were actually Jews. It's described in the bible, that when they were conquering promised land after escaping from Egyptian slavery, they were instructed to slaughter men but spare unmarried women (If I remember correctly). It was a part of a longer process, designed to slowly shift the perception of those people away from "Care for my tribe and kill other tribes", and eventually Christianity was created and, in the next 2000 years, reformed into various Christian faiths we know today, not all of them good, especially not in the USA, but still overall having positive effect on the world in my opinion.
Dwell on the past and you loose an eye, forget the past and you loose both eyes.
Syphax Atlas yes but there is still footage and pictures of him, think before writing Kindergarden child.
Take away a nation's heritage and they are more easily persuaded. - Karl Marx
Statues are for remembrance of what we have gone through to get where we are!
@@4756134 you are quite wrong yet quite write because it goes both way.
Baal?
@@4756134 History is made by people. Events couldn't take place without the participation of people. When I see a statue of Churchill, I think of his leadership during WW2. When I see Columbus, I think of the Explorations. Those statues commemorate the good those people did. It doesn't glorify them as practically perfect in every way.
@@4756134 Concentrating on one aspect again. Churchill is commemorated for a reason. He is seen as a hero in Britain of WW2. And those who u say payed to have statues erected needed permission and didn't face opposition when they did
@@4756134 Then why are u on about confederacy. Those statues weren't put there to glorify racism. U can't blame historical figures for the times they lived in and what influenced their views.
They should head to Cliffton Hill. Lots of statues there. You name it, they got it. Godzilla, Frankenstein, Dracula, Ronald MacDonald, etc.
Seriously?
Seeing those statues removed of vandalized made me upset and sad.
Not all statues of a great persons or figures are perfect & had bad, horrible things but it represents both the rights & wrongs of history in the past.
"If we can't learn the past, we can't move on."
There's a fundamental difference between knowing the history and celebrating an individual by erecting their statues.
Snowflake ❄️
@@GadgetsHigh I mean let's be real statues arnt there just so they can be celebrated. It's showing what happened and how they have a significant part to play. Weather u like it or not what happened happened and u can't change that by toppling statues. Churchills dead. No revenge has been done by toppling a statue as it doesn't change the past.
2020: Statues need their owns safe spaces because of people who feel threatened by statues.
It is that ignorance that has perpetuated hate and systemic Racism.
Well done you.
You are proof positive of the point my Parents were teaching me as a child.
Thank God for my "Snowflake" Parents.
Statues are for heroes, people you should look up to! Racists, slave traders, fascists, and dictators should be consigned to the history books!
@@SiobhanMcGrath72 he's ignorant because you don't like his opinion? Kind of hypocritical of you?
Take them all down. Even if it takes 100 yrs. About time you Feel what we feel
Snowflakes lives matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Police get a grip of this!!! This is just a government failure in the UK. Having selective reporting is not helping either.
It's typical snowflake leftists media, I'm not surprised.
The fact that Sadiq Khan is still an elected mayor in london baffles me.
hopefully not for much longer.
Removing history children, does not remove the past. Running around dragging statues down is childish lawlessness and has nothing to do with political betterment for mankind.
@Syphax Atlas if my history serves me well Hitler didn't come out of the Whitehouse and there are war memorials all over the world.
British police…. A truly pathetic law enforcement organisation. Embarrassment to the country.
What's next? Tearing down the pyramids and all ruins and monuments of ancient Rome?
Such an awesome point. Us native brits should be requesting reparations from the Italians!
@@barry-thechangechecker8179 And us Irish should receive reparations from you Brits 😁 where does it end.....😁
@@barry-thechangechecker8179 but roman nation was conqured by goths, so technically there is nobody to request from... otherwise many could do that...
next is going to "TEAR DOWN" and reform this "Babylonian magic system" The oppressed will RISE!! This system can kill us but never STOP us. Remember that son!
There was no racism during those times?
Statues are easy to remove and easy to focus on but that's not the focal point of this movement.
@Lynn Boudreau hahaha yes it's a giant conspiracy to teach a full history that includes the sins of our forefathers. Columbus was a genocidal pos even by the standards of his own day.
@Lynn Boudreau "until Common Core education filled the childrens' heads full of lies"
please can you provide some examples of these lies ?
maybe - it is the other way around - that this statues celebrating vicious tyrants without detailing their crimes - is really the obscene half-truth that amounts to a ghastly lie ??
Isn't the movement about removing white people as a majority in their own homeland?
they are strong symbols that's why these removal are important!
The key to these protests to enact reform. But the real reform starts in the mind. And the removal of these monuments is an excellent start to that mental reform.
This is heart breaking. History is the most important thing. Because without it we don’t learn from it and the sins of the fathers will come back to haunt us. History is shades of grey and always be viewed with nuance. These people who are defiling history are as bad as isis who eradicated their history their monuments of of ages of nearly a thousand years old. We live in dark times and the only way through this is not with violence nor hate from either side but peaceful discourse as this is only way things get done with debate. History is very important defacing the cenotaph a monument dedicated for the men and women who died for your freedom who died to make sure their children and their children’s children could live in a place without fear of tyranny and they spit on their memory was their sacrifice worth this treatment i know it wasn’t. It’s heart breaking. They say they are woke . They could not be more blind. They need to wake up and expand their mind and see the full picture of history. It breaks my heart. Lest We Forget our glorious dead.
The government should also put up status of lynched black man and those that fought for freedom , the status of slaves that worked their backs off for the development of American
Statues do not represent history, they represent the dominion of whatever faction is in power. They glorified slavers and other evil-doers, now they are paying the price.
Statues are history, period, and you can’t destroy history, you shouldn’t destroy it, heartbreaking.
@@1Buttonmasher Yes statues do represent history, they are public visible reminders of a place, era or event. A Churchill statue is a reminder of WW2, a Columbus statue is a reminder of Explorations etc.
It is heartbreaking they are doing this.
all these people should have a permanent mark on their records, so potential employers can prioritize jobs for others
Nobody should be allowed to take down our statues or deface our monuments. They belong to the British people not to young uneducated yobs!!!! And Sadiq Kahn can follow this statue into the river. If you want to change society, we have a democracy, you can vote for a change, not use violence.
I think you are uneducated by supporting statues of slave owners
@@georgefoord7240 Leftist loony.
All this energy for over an object, the Bible says you shouldn’t worship false idols Jennifer c
You're conveniently forgetting the fact that over 11,000 Bristol residents had signed a petition for the removal of the Colston statue. A petition that was ignored by the council, who favoured a plaque explaining Colston's history. Only problem being they couldn't agree on the wording and pretty much abandoned the idea after months of arguements amongst themselves. Proof that democracy doesn't always work when dealing with an organisation entrenched in bureaucracy.
@@anxioussmurf2057 Bristol's popluation is near to 700,000. A petition signed by 11,000, roughly 1.5% of the popluation is maybe why the staue wasn't removed. For you to say it's proof that democracy doesn't work is absolutely hilarious and shows your intelligence.
Don’t destroy Winston Churchill’s statue, you should build more. I mean if it weren’t for him we would be speaking German. He was one of Britain’s best prime ministers
i would prefer speak german instead of french
The statue @5:45 almost looks real. If you look carefully it is almost as if the eyes are moving..
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
"The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history."
George Orwell
Learn to reads, then you’ll
Understand your “history”
Just like the Taliban.....
Is that you Nigel?
Not claiming Universal credit yet? 🧐
The reason for history, is not to remember it but to learn from it. Defacing statues isn't doing both but doing something worse, forgetting it and pleading ignorance
Knocking down and vandalising historical statues like this is a bit much and not the answer. They are part of place. History can't be rewritten, only acknowledged and learned from. These statues represent the good these people did. Yes these people held certain views that wouldn't be considered acceptable to us and rightly so but they came from a different era. That was then this is now.
These are the same people that have portraits of Stalin, Mao, Che, etc etc
when are we taking down the Karl Marx statues??
Help yourself. Or are you too scared to do it alone?
there are Karl Marx statues?
Never
Sir Jimmy Saville was a great British example.
It should never have been taken down or demolished !!
It appears as if, we love and adore "Nefarious Characters,"
from history and place them on "Pedestals of Power" !!!
Am I correct in saying this ???
Have any of you seen that painting of the Barbarians toppling that Roman statue? Yeah this is like that; I don't think I'm being too overdramatic comparing this to the toppling of statues during the fall of Rome.
I'm sorry, Confederate people, but this is how it's going to be.
We have to teach everyone not to worship bad statues by the looks of it all
Christopher clombus wasn't a statue of honor either anyway.
General Lee was a Confederate only because his state was. That's the very reason he is revered and praised. His love was for his state, not the Confederacy.
I love how half those statues are people who werent racist
Why Christopher Columbus I mean everyone in 1492 was racist you would be too
That doesn't make it okay
@@battycupcake8533 well if we judge him based on the man he is just an explorer he knew no better
@@victorbergman9169 quite making excuses and defending the racists
@@battycupcake8533 yes exactly I don’t believe Victor Bergman is trying to defend them
@@haislaangie2899 it was over half a millenia
3:27 the statue fights back
@puckbt And sprite Check the timestamp, the falling statue hospitalises that guy.
Turns out, BLM has no concept of gravity
Aahahahah Jackson’s was laughing at them
@@cosuinofdeath "Fools"
I hope that hurts
3:28 When they drop a statue onto a black man.
Karma
KARMA!
@@sagalmusse6977 BLACK LIVES MATTER (except his life apparentally)
Haha
Wonderful
Statues don’t hit back “Bruce Lee"
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Call it what it is : NOT PROTESTERS...THIS RIOTING. I'm sick of it.
Should be sick of systemic racism and police oppression but you probably aren't affected by any of that.
Max Worth I am , I’m black but what they’re doing is trying to rewrite the past
Doesn't it just make you spill your latte? I'm sorry that other people fighting for the right to be treated as equals is so mildly inconvenient to you, it must be a real hardship, having to watch it on the news from the perilous front lines of your sitting room.
My heart bleeds for you!
They are straight out by of Hitler's timeline. They Believe it will ruin the Elections. But in reality it will just get them in prison. This isn't the 1930's.
This is horrible. Those people are literally destroying history.
So now will they stop history classes in school? Along with the Bible? Disgusting,
Yeah the Bible is disgusting, u ever actually sat down and read the thing?
God will have the last word people he rules the world his power can never be overthrown
Ah, I love the smell of a nice fresh strawman.
@@christinemary7101 No you're thinking of Sean Connery in The Man Who Would Be King. Mind you, look what happened to him.
@@christinemary7101 ...I fart in your face. Blurt fnuuuuurt.
It IS like destroying gargoyles because they are scary.
"As long as i am the Reichskanzler, we wont do any kind of colonial politics"
-Otto von Bismarck
And now guess why these people vandalized the statue?
Do not destroy history. Keep history and learn from it so the same mistakes don’t happen again for the next generations
Statues are not history.
@@theSTUNTHAMSTER they are the visual symbolism of history
theSTUNTHAMSTER They’re there to give us a reminder and educate us about these historical events that actually happened. You have to acknowledge both the good and bad of what makes up our nation’s history. Gender Studies doesn’t make anyone smarter.
You don’t need statues to learn history.
Silly of you to say.
Those amongst you without sin please cast the first stone.
Who are you to say to anyone who has sinned and who has not? This is why we are in this situation to begin with. Take your sin bullshit and shove it!
OH yea, sorry about the slave I have in a shed at the bottom of my garden.
@@TheTimbo911 Yeah Yeah Tim, ya don't get it do ya......
@@Neil-Aspinall oh I get it...I don't agree with it....big difference.
@@Neil-Aspinall No point arguing. He thinks he had never sinned in his life. He thinks if he had lived in those times of slavery that he would be different and even greater than these people we built statues for.
All of those statues should have been removed many many years ago. It's happening now because it's way way way past due. We can't forget history if it's still not done writing itself
Statues is for people who achieved greatness in life, which impacted a nation or the world in a positive way. Not for slave traders or genociders 🤷♂️ you have got history museums to keep these statues of people who committed atrocities to the world where every generation will have the chance to learn about
Too said they'll underwater now
Winston Churchill owned so many slaves.
If those statutes belong anywhere, it's in a museum.
BBC. Please remove the statue that is in front of your London headquarters, the one of the little, naked boy held from behind by a large man.
Why don't you do it for them?
@@gerrabath Are you a snowflake 🤔
@@gerrabath Because I am simply an elderly woman (71) in America who cares about the safety of all children, and I abhor violence. Why don't you start another letter writing campaign to get BBC to remove that pedophilic statue? They have been asked many times before but BBC has no shame. P.S. to Celtic Warrior. Thank you.
@@tardigrade9493 you are too pure for this world
@@harll5560 copout
ALL LIVES MATTER . Where We Go One, We Go All
if you vote democrat your part of the problem.
Not one of the people responsible for toppling statues will be remembered by history. Failures in life and failures in deed.
And they wonder why police are getting more aggressive
the police are on their side
So what's next? Are you going to take them out of textbooks? Censor the internet?
~George Santayana "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
The internet is already heavily censored by the government
They actually did that first. They stopped teaching all the great deeds of these people so the kids will only know the bad.
the internet is already heavily censored. alot of old documentaries by the bbc, etc, are removed from indexing.
And they ask why I'm racist
They still sell black people in Africa go protest there
These people need to stop. People did bad things in the past. But that was the past.
“Mussolini’s designs upon Abyssinia were unsuited to the ethics of the twentieth century. They belonged to those dark ages when white men felt themselves entitled to conquer yellow, brown, black, or red men, and subjugate them by their superior strength and weapons.” - Quote from Sir Winston Churchill. “The Gathering Storm”, book about the beginnings of WWII. So much for being a racist.
Scary stuff, don't agree with it at all.
Good....then sit down and shut your pie hole!
@@TheTimbo911 Timmy sounds like a snowflake 🤔
@@celticwarrior9123 he certainly does without doubt. All these idiots are snowflakes. It's absolutely pathetic. I'm Irish. And I do t want to see any history erased. Plus these dickheads are acting like the statues are people. 🤦🏻♂️
@@Daniel.Patrick.Walsh88 lol go read our own comment again. And if you do not want to let history get erased go buy a book.
@@YI-hi5ig 😂 what? I'm too stupid to understand your level of stupid brother 😂
What does Christopher Columbus have to do with George Floyd?
Why are they even tearing down Columbus? Revenge for the native americans? Do natives even want that?
We should be grateful to Columbus for discovering America.
Fabio Spasiano exactly
Halfblood 3 first of all Churchill was a hero second of all if you lived in 1492 you would also be a racist bigot, so Columbus simply had a mentality that people had back then
Halfblood 3 we don’t worship Columbus on Columbus Day we simply are proud that Europe discovered the Americas
Good heavens! Those lovely statues being absolutely ruined by those awful people. Henry darling, please go out there and shoo them away.
You don’t want that
After all this, they still are not satisfied. They never will, mark my words remember this a year from now when it’s still happening.
Statues are there to don't repeat the history!
Exactly! A reminder for future generations.
Then maybe they should of kept up the statues of Hitler in Germany
I could hardly believe a statue which is a carved up rock could tell history better than a book.
@@ZONE-fj8ly for the people of today it hard to open a book...if in school they don't do,then a statue it more usefull as a reminder
@@andreimotohoi8745 Please, it only has a name, date and a short summary which barely could be used as a reliable source material for history class.
To destroy a people, you must first sever their roots. - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
The Heretic I posted that and it got deleted lol 😂
Has the same happened to you?
Once all of the statues,flags, and free speech are gone, what can you blame your oppression on?
You learn history from books, not some carved and sculpted rock which is hardly something you would bring to school.
This harks back to when they ripped the statue of Suddam Hussein down.
Thanks for your input.
@@saxglend9439 R U going to delete this post as well? I mean after last nights shitshow...
@@WildwoodCastle Yes it does.
Except the Hussain one was a current dictator and put a statue of him self up....get some perspective
@@dandan9442 Twataboutery.
Destroy absolutely everything. And I’m wholly white, btw.
This is repugnant to take statues down
Indeed
this is disgusting! theyre literally doing this over some man's death
Ur right. Using him as an excuse for vandalism and something to shout about
Ur right. Using him as an excuse to cause vandalism and something to shout about
Using violence and criminal destruction when you can't get what you want democratically is fascism
If you take statues down because they owned slaves then we should take town ancient statues as well???
It's like they are drunk and frantically destroying their own house out of anger but they forgot what they are angry about
History is history, you can't change it nor can you rewrite it. you can only learn from it.
My family have been loyal citizens for over 50 years. I’m ashamed of the people who share my ethnic roots (Indian) and the others who disrespect our national hero. My family are so proud of what Britain did during Her prime. The pathetic cowards who defaced the statue and their supporters only make me more proud of the English flag on my wall. God bless England 🏴.
People able to topple a statue would find no problem beheading somebody.
Even though churchill had did some things that could offended someone, he did put WW2 to a stop and thats something to be proud of. Idk maybe place his statue in a museum. Destroying it just destroys evidence.
I second this motion. Statues are a part of history, place them in a museum. Attitudes and trends change over time.
The end of the second world war was planned by Josef Stalin and Woodrow Wilson. Sir Winston Churchill was drunk during the meeting and missed it.
The United States would have done nothing because it could not have reached Germany if the United Kingdom had capitulated, and Germany could move more divisions to the East because Britain is no longer a threat, the Americans have successfully landed in Sicily from the lands African occupied by the British and landed in Normandy from Great Britain, the United States would have done nothing if the British Empire surrendered, this means that the Wehrmacht is concentrated in the eastern front which means the Soviets could lose possibly, WW2 was made with teamwork and if Churchill surrendered probably WW2 would ended in a stalemate, the fascists would still be in power and big piece of Europe would be speaking german by now, so please, learn history and shut your mouth.
@@hackman669 Except that's not what we're talking about. Rioters tear them down and throw them in rivers not museums. Put Winston Churchill on proud display. I don't care if you facists wanna cry when you see him.
Do you actually think racist people are gonna stop being racist if you tear down Churchill? The purpose of this is clear, to start a race war.
I don't get why people hate Colombo so much. Man was an explorer.
If this is where the world is going, I want no part of it.
John Brown not did worng.
Looks like history repeating itself again..
This is just sickening to me
I’m just waiting for you to start tearing down monuments for the veterans because: “they were warmongers.”
IKR
This is vandalism !!
Kruger was a great man, these muppets have no right to touch his legacy.
You say your ancestors might have been slaves in Bristol, so do that mean if it wasn't for the slave trade, the chances are you would not have become Lord Mayor of Bristol, so if that's the case are you going to resign your position as mayor of Bristol
Sarah McGuinnes Im only writing because I am so fed up of being called a racist, for voting Brexit, for saying all lives matter, for saying I'm proud to be British, and saying it's wrong to try and change our history, what do these people want from us, have you heard one argument that the , well I feel chavs is to polite for them want from us
Channel 4 take down any comments that don't fit their agenda!
Nice conspiracy theory peddling. It's called "Content Moderation" - perhaps you've heard of it?
@@cinderball1135 No it's called control. I have had comments deleted when I haven't said anything offensive at all. Expressing the way I think in a non offensive manner.
@@RayzaEFC Uhuh. If you call in a bomb threat, whether you swore is going to be the least of anybody's concern. Sometimes, it's the content of what you say that is the problem - not the way you phrased it.
@@cinderball1135 Pathetic reply. Ever heard of free speech?
@@RayzaEFC Funny. You sound *exactly* like someone else I spoke to on this comment section. It's almost like you're the same person...
Leave the statues where they are, regardless of whether you liked what they did when they were alive. Or you could just leave the country and I am talking to white people too, not just non whites. 😉✌
I don't see anyone out on the streets protesting the deaths of those who died in Grenfell tower one year ago today....
We did more than that, if you remember the community outreach just after, the petitions, how we represent them at carnival every year etc, when I went to protest last week we chanted for them so don’t try it
Grenfell Tower burned in 2017, 3 years ago.
I recall 1966, red guards try to cancel the culture in China led by Mao.
Bengal famine, Churchill denied food to British subjects, tens of millions died.
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We are all dead.
Millions died globally while plunder , oppression and domination still going on....
Free Assange ❗️
Make Wars & Economical Sanctions Illegal ‼️
Investigate 9/11
"If you remove the evidence, you remove the deed."
Take down the statue of Churchill cuz he's a killer but I bet they'd like to put some statues up of their rappers that glorify violence 😂
how many rappers have murdered thousands of men, women and children or advocated the subjugation of people with different coloured skin ??
I hate the fact that these statues are being torn down and nobody is fighting back at the people tearing them down. This is a disgrace.
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Want to keep them for history put in museums
This is torture
I bet many don't know who are those statues represent
1 broken statue = 10 k more votes for Trump,good job CHAZ 😆