A unique way to fix tear out on the lathe.
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Bowl turning and platter turning can be a lot of fun. But when you have problems it can be very frustrating. One of those sources of frustration is tear out! I found a unique way to fix tear out on my wood turning project. I was milling a dry piece of sycamore and had tear out. I used a negative rake scraper and that worked in part but not enough to make me happy so I ended up texturizing the area in question.
Fixing tarot on the lathe,
Sycamore wood,
Lathe control,
Grizzly lathe,
CA glue,
I was also using a Grizzly lathe that was unable to keep the head stock, tool rest in place. The under mount nuts continually loosened. Time to get a new lathe!
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Turn and learn, I like that! That is life, we never stop learning. Thanks for commenting
Nice looking piece, thanks for sharing. Sometimes on really rough tear out, I really wet the area with sanding sealer and use a “wet sanding” paper to create a paste of dust and sealer. This dust mixture fills the tear out areas and dries very fast. After drying you can go back with 220 paper and clean it up pretty well for the rest of your finishing process. Good luck, works for me
That’s an awesome suggestion thank you very much for your consult. Thanks for subscribing and liking too
Good video. I thin my filler down to the consistency of milk. It's highly flammable but dries quickly. If using paint or dye over it, then I only sand to 240. A spray lacquer of course requires me going to 600.
Thanks for the tips!
Really nice job!!!!!
Thanks. I’m trying my best to both make beautiful things and good videos!!
yes the spalting adds a lot to sycamore, keep up the work and thanks for sharing, Grizzly lower end lathes aren't known for fit and finish, I have been turning on the same model as you have for 10 years, haven't had the head stock loosening up on me though, you can get replacement parts for the entire lathe - trust me I know. THanks Melanie.
Thanksgiving Mark. Anything has started to loosen on this la so I went out and bought a new one you’ll see that in my upcoming videos if you subscribe which would be very very nice thank you so much
Hi Melanie. Get yourself a nice sharp bowl gouge ( or two ) , find out how to use them and your tearout problem will be solved, eventually. You've got a new subscriber. I'd like to see what you get up to with your new machine. Best regards.
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Thanks for the tip!
Interesting!
It’s definitely a different way to try to fill funky holes and weak wood
@@I-build-crafts it is!!
Hi. I want to say right up front that you did a great job. I feel like the piece come out great. There is NO right or Wrong way to work wood. We all have different creative approaches. Some work better than others. That's why they call it learning.
There are a few things I can offer that will help ease the level of tear-out and smoother results; The first is using very sharp tools. This is the key to clean cuts. Next, there are certain tools that will cut better than others. Using a Sharp Bowl Gouge (5/8" is what I use) on those outside curves and the inside transitions will reduce that tear-out considerably. Next, making sure the Tools Rest is close to the piece gives better control of your tool. I use the Carbide Finisher you used, in different areas of a project when needed. Remember, it is a "Scrapper" and will produce tear-out when going against the grain. This is why you saw some areas smooth and others tore out. Also, remember they are "Tools" and each has its pros & cons. On the filling of the holes; you can simply use wood glue lightly and then sand allowing the sanded dust to fill the holes naturally. Stay positive and keep working but, most of all have fun.
Thanks I very much appreciate your support.
Actually there is a right and wrong way. A wood lathe is a powerful machine and working safe is always "right". There are many ways to get hurt using machinery and most of them involve doing things the "wrong" way.
@@cannonfodder3677 I agree the fundamentals of safty are paramount. I was simply suggesting differences in approach or your creative process. The purpose of the comment was to encourage after a hateful commenter bashed her, which was inappropriate and not constructive.
And I was very appreciative of your support! It’s hard putting yourself out there in hopes that people will enjoy.
Hey Melanie, would it have been any easier to glue a wood block to it and then fasten it to a sturdy face plate, instead of using a worm screw. Sounds like you had trouble with the worm screw holding tight. .. Just curious. FYI, you do awesome work 👏!! I love your birdhouses. Until watching this video, I didn't know you were also a woodturner!!
Thanks. I learn more and more every day!
Love the vid.... That sealer looks like a home brew. Can you share what your using?
Hi, Glad that you like the vid! As for the finish, I start with a sanding sealer to seal the wood and firm it up. I sand the sanding sealer between coats of which I added several. After that I added something called Feed and Wax. Its great stuff, seals and waxes! Thanks!
@@I-build-crafts Was the sanding sealer a home brew of some type shown at 8:23
@@pfiltz nope I didn’t even dilute it. Zinzar I think. It’s a shellac base. Hope that helps
Can't help thinking that @Terry Martin's comments are about the most valuable advice that anyone with a lathe will ever get.
Go and watch anything with Stuart Batty and start enjoying yourself. Ashley Harwood too.
ua-cam.com/video/ROfafTjf2kU/v-deo.html is an excellent start.
Thanks for the video referral. I have had lessons, some with traditional chisels and some with carbide bits. I am hearing a mixed opinion form many. I can only keep working at it.
Terry Martin has great comments. I would like to add a couple more about safety. As a trained machinist I can see you are asking for trouble. I noticed you are wearing a watch. Jewelry should never be worn while operating power machinery. Likewise loose clothing is very dangerous. I see many youtubers wearing gloves. This just makes me shudder. You have a choice here. Suffer a few minor cuts or abrasions without gloves or suffer the loss of a finger or worse by having a glove pull you into a turning spindle.
I understand your concern which is why I don't wear rings or gloves. I have plenty of nicks from resin particularly. I never thought about my watch getting catch in the lathe.
You ever caught your watch in a machine?
@@johnmitchell1614 I never get that close to the blade. Careful is the only way to use any power tool.
@@johnmitchell1614 no but I've seen what happens when a ring gets caught. Not pretty. I've seen what happens when hair gets caught. Not pretty. I've seen what happens when stupid happens. Almost life ending. No, I've never caught a watch in a machine but I'm going to make sure it never happens to me.
Carbide tools = tear out. Bowl/spindle gouges are what you need. Mounting a piece of wood that size on a screw chuck is dangerous. A faceplate is always safe and should be used. Poor video for anyone just starting out.
I think tear-out has something to do with the type and condition of the wood being milled. I recently milled a cherry burl bowl with carbide tools and had no problems and the bowl turned beautifully! So theres more to the story. ua-cam.com/video/wvEoY05HRzA/v-deo.html
@@I-build-crafts Carbide tools are the problem. As another person commented, buy some decent bowl gouges and you’ll never have this kind of issue again. Wood will tear with a bowl gouge but nothing like what it does with these heinous tools that seem to be very popular in the US. All the top turners never use carbide tools for this very reason.