Wood Turning Avoid Those Nasty Carbide Catches

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
  • I show how I avoid the nasty catches using carbide cutters.
    Carbide cutters are basically scrapers. What is important is the position of the tool based on the center of the turning.
    I also show some of my old pattern making turning tools and some very large turnings.
    Tools used: Carbide turning tools and negative rake scraper
    Finish used: Zinsser Seal Coat Acks Abrasive Acks Polish/Restoring Paste
    If you found this video entertaining
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    The video is for entertainment purposes only
    You are watching how I do things and not suggesting others should do it the way I do.
    You need to know your machines and how to use them. Follow how the manufacture says to use them safely.
    Look up other turnings I have done:
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    20 minute bowl
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    Star bowl Block bowl
    Tumbling bowls Emerging Bowls Black Locust Vase
    Droop Bowl Offset Bowl Barrel of Blocks Star Bowl Bowl in a Bowl
    Droop Bowl Lathe modifications Lacquer Shellac Friction Polish
    Abrasive Paste Polishing Paste Wipe on Poly Black Locust Hollow Form
    Multi Axis Square Bowl Siberian Elm Hollow Form
    Dodecahedron Soccer Ball Sphere Olive Wood Turnings Illusions Segmented Vase
    Tangent Stave Turning

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  • @4thfrom7
    @4thfrom7 10 днів тому +1

    The woodturning world is blessed to have people like you in it. Thank you for this.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  10 днів тому

      Thank you very Jeremy I appreciate you watching and commenting,
      Gary

  • @SuperZmeister
    @SuperZmeister 2 роки тому +2

    The king of common sense! Anyone either just starting out or a very seasoned turner will quickly
    understand what catches are and, by your instructions, avoid them. Thanks.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you. And for sure. Catches are common when first starting out. I think some might give up before figuring it out.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gayr

  • @MikeDooley
    @MikeDooley 10 місяців тому +4

    Brand new turner, tried my first bowl today. It went awful, catch after catch. Google brought me here, and you got me sorted out real quick! Understand what I was doing wrong, thank you for a great explanation. I was doing the opposite with regards to tool rest height. Thanks again!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  10 місяців тому +4

      Hi Mike and welcome to the world of wood turning. Understanding the geometry of what is going on is a good way to see what causes those catches. May your wood turning be catch free. But having them be rare is the best we can ask for. The wood it self can contribute to a catch no matter what.
      Have fun,
      Gary

  • @gaowoodlab
    @gaowoodlab 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, 👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @gonzo1863
    @gonzo1863 Рік тому +5

    Been getting catches inside my bowl with the carbide (brand new turner). Makes complete sense, thank you!!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Thank you for watching and letting me know.
      Best of luck.
      Gary

  • @lyndaowen2154
    @lyndaowen2154 Рік тому +2

    My first carbide tools showed up today and I watched the lesson video. They sit with them, but yours has been a lot more informative and helpful. Thank you very much.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Thank you Lynda. Just how I learned how to use them. Have never seen a lesson on them. Which kind did you get?
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

    • @lyndaowen2154
      @lyndaowen2154 Рік тому

      @@ThePapa1947 it was a very short video showing a bowl being turned. I did learn the differences between the round carbide and the square carbide but they did not show proper holding technique as yours did. I think, knowing the proper tool to use, and how to hold a position them are all very important lessons not just showing what they do which is basically all the video did. Like I said, yours was a lot more helpful to me at least.

  • @PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop
    @PhilAndersonShadyAcresWoodshop 2 роки тому +2

    Very well done, professor! This helps me a lot! Now, how 'bout the same info for HSS gouges and scrapers! How 'bout we all just meet at your place for a class lecture? I'll bring the Pringles! 😊😋🤣
    Phil

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you Phil. Scrapers would work just like the carbides as far as catches go. As you know those gouges have a mind of their own.
      You decide to let the wing touch wall on the inside and the gouges lets you know that is a big NO NO!
      Pringles sounds good! But I would say bring your own HEAT..right now it says 34 degrees. And not sure what I will turn next but it is going to have to be a quickie!
      Stay warm buddy!
      Gary

  • @ianbennet7408
    @ianbennet7408 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks Gary
    Extremely informative video....
    Thanks always enjoy your projects...the knotty pieces of wood with edge bark and lots of inclusions is my favorite projects to turn
    Ian
    Edmonton Canada
    It's cold here also

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching Ian and I like those types of pieces as well. Working one right now.
      I am sure it is a lot colder up where you are at.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @billloeffelholz7777
    @billloeffelholz7777 23 дні тому +1

    This is very helpful, thank you

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  23 дні тому +1

      Thanks Bill, happy it helped.
      Gary

  • @johnmaclauchlan8660
    @johnmaclauchlan8660 Місяць тому +1

    I’m very much a beginner. Attempted to turn a small chestnut bowl this morning using carbides and HSS tools. I was quite pleased with myself until I had a massive catch whilst hollowing out and it broke the recess wall! No damage to me fortunately! This video came up without me even searching and I think you have shown where I went wrong. Makes so much sense the way you explain it. Thank you so very much!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you John for your comments. This has always worked for me.
      Others may have their ways but I do not recommend those to someone just starting out.
      Enjoy your turning and thanks for taking time to comment.
      Gary

    • @johnmaclauchlan8660
      @johnmaclauchlan8660 Місяць тому

      ​@@ThePapa1947Thank you for your reply and much appreciated help!

  • @janeoverby2151
    @janeoverby2151 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks Gary what a great teacher you are. I don't have any carbide tools yet I use my bowl gouges and scrapers figured if I learn with traditional tools I can get a couple of carbide

    • @ACKSWOODPASTE
      @ACKSWOODPASTE 2 роки тому +2

      Very good thinking Jane, thats the way to go about it!!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Jane. You are doing it the right way. Gouges are my choice but carbides can come in handy, Also your scrapers will act just like the carbides unless they are negative rake.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @B4TS1
    @B4TS1 Рік тому +2

    Thankyou for this video.
    I'll remember it by thinking of the summer temperatures when the air conditioner is on. Outside - high, inside - low

  • @jonperley7304
    @jonperley7304 Рік тому +1

    Im so glad I found this video when I was in high school my shop teacher had me visit the local Pattern shop Ipswich Pattern was the name of it and l almost went to Fitchburg college to learn Pattern making but it didn't happen I chose to be a mechanic instead but never lost my love for woodworking! Seeing that you were a Pattern maker brought back many memories of that shop I became good friends with the owner Jack Sweeney he taught me so much and let me use his WONDERFUL SHOP! on weekends and evenings sadly Jack passed away from cancer I'm so grateful to have him for a friend end his knowledge I also turned a 6 foot tabletop in his shop what a great experience now at 70 I'm still turning mostly live edge bowls and vases thank you for bringing back those memories Happy turning to you Gary from Happy Wood Turnings here in Ducklake Maine!👍

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому +1

      Thank you very much Jon for an absolute wonderful story.
      I lived behind a pattern shop as a kid and did not know what they were doing but when I found out I decided I was going to be a pattern maker.
      Uncle Sam decided he wanted me for 2 years abut after that I followed my dream.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  •  2 роки тому +3

    Hello my friend,
    Congrats on the project and smart way of working that hides great experiences. Thank you for this useful information. The design you translated that huge years ago was magnificent and impressive. I was also impressed by the shop you served in your apprenticeship. Details were beautiful. See you. Big greetings.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks so much my friend. It was a great shop to learn in. Being a small shop I started building patterns from day one. A big shop it is a few years before they turned you loose on your own project. I worked there for 11 or 12 years then moved to the largest shop in town. Lots of equipment and much better. But I am grateful for learning in the small shop with the machines we had.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz
    @ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz Рік тому +1

    Perfect! It is the 3” wedges I am attempting, I will make angular adjustments as you recommend. thanks for your help.
    E

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Thank you E. Just know you can take a piece or two out to help the joints close up. The angle becomes a compound angle whey you tilt the pieces.
      Gary

  • @elgardog
    @elgardog 2 роки тому +1

    Very well explained, Thank You.

  • @giuseppedibari
    @giuseppedibari 5 місяців тому +1

    One of the best piece of advice that I've seen from time ago. Thank you.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you very much. I know it is how I was taught years ago and it works for me.

  • @rickhomer934
    @rickhomer934 2 роки тому +1

    Great information in here. Thank you.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Rick and thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @KC-xr2tm
    @KC-xr2tm 2 роки тому +1

    I am new to turning. Thank you for showing me why I've been getting all those terrible catches.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you for watching KC. There is usually a good reason for catches and tool placement is a very important part of wood turning.
      Have fun turning!
      Gary

  • @MANJITSINGH-ko2oi
    @MANJITSINGH-ko2oi 2 роки тому +1

    THANK u gary good sound advice on tools.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Manjit I appreciate you watching.
      Gary

  • @randyjones2204
    @randyjones2204 2 роки тому +1

    Very good demonstration for carbide tools and catches. Thanks much.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Randy. Happy you enjoyed the video.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @salvatorecaramico7104
    @salvatorecaramico7104 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the info, this was a really great video!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thanks so much Salvatore. Happy you enjoyed it.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @JamesCouch777
    @JamesCouch777 Рік тому +2

    I'm a beginner and since I don't know what I'm doing this is very helpful. I've not had trouble with catching on the outside but terrible on the inside. Thank you 😊👍

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Thank you very much. The geometry of the inside vs. the outside is totally different when it comes to tool placement.
      Happy it has helped.
      Gary

  • @sonyhk3824
    @sonyhk3824 2 роки тому +1

    Information that everyone who works in Woodturning needs. Cheers Gary 👍 💯

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Sony!
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @garymoulston8443
    @garymoulston8443 Рік тому +1

    Adding to my comment 9 days ago. Your advice on above centre on outside and below centre on the inside has helped my turning immensely. I have turned a couple of bowls and some spindle items since watching your video, thanks very much.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Thank you Gary that is great to hear! I know it can be frustrating when things work and then they don't. Glad it takes some of the mystery out of those catches.
      Have fun,
      Gary...from Oregon

  • @glen3257
    @glen3257 8 місяців тому +1

    thank you so much for this video. I have switched to carbide as traditional catches have scared the crap out of me with catches such as the scew chisel (aka widow maker). I am so excited to turn my Lathe back on and make shavings!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  8 місяців тому

      Thank you Glen. For sure it is hard to get comfortable on the lathe if you have a fear of a tool.
      I seldom use a skew for the type of turning I do.
      Have fun using the tools you are comfortable with.
      Gary

  • @Jeff1Jeff2Jeff3Jeff
    @Jeff1Jeff2Jeff3Jeff 2 роки тому +2

    Very interesting .. I would like to hear more about your pattern-turning-days ..

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Jeff. Here is a video I did at the my beginning of making videos. No talking but some cool pictures.
      ua-cam.com/video/lil3zwgc3Ok/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ThePapa1947

  • @tristangriner3001
    @tristangriner3001 9 місяців тому +1

    It’s definitely great to learn what not to do when it comes to woodturning. A catch will wake you up faster than a cup of coffee.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  9 місяців тому +1

      You are so correct Tristan. I can remember a few catches on 4-6 foot turnings. The adrenalin rush is like a someone opened a fire hydrant.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @exotictones1054
    @exotictones1054 2 роки тому +1

    Nice simple bowl that looks very nice n thanx for the info buddy.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you and thanks for watching.
      Gary

    • @exotictones1054
      @exotictones1054 2 роки тому +1

      @@ThePapa1947 n that 6'er you turned was awesome.where did you work n do that stuff.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      @@exotictones1054 both those pictures were taken in the pattern shops I worked in. I worked in 2. One I served my apprenticeship in and the other I worked in till I retired almost 10 years ago. Both in Portland Oregon.

  • @fa18mhr
    @fa18mhr 2 роки тому +1

    I got a bad catch yesterday using a round carbide cutter on the inside of a bowl which threw my hand into the natural edge. Youser that hurt and I have some major scrapes and bruising to show for it. Thankfully no broken bones. Wish I had seen your video beforehand. Thanks for your insight.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Sorry to hear about your catch. It does sound like you could have a sore hand.
      I hope you are catch free from here out.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @GordonRock1
    @GordonRock1 2 роки тому +3

    So that’s what I’ve been doing wrong. Everything! 😃😃😃 Great tutorial, Gary. That really clears up a lot of questions for a lot of us turners. Thanks for sharing your expertise. As always, you da man! Stay well, my friend.
    …..Gord

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Gord. I was ask about this a few years ago and then again last week. So that and the fact for us 23 degrees is cold I figured this would be quick and hopefully helpful.
      Oh and I have not seen you do anything wrong yet my friend!
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @kulkulkan802
    @kulkulkan802 Рік тому +2

    This video helped me so much! I made a beautiful bowl with your advice. Thanks so much for posting this, it’s a lifesaver!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Thank you very much. Happy it helped.
      Thanks for letting me know and watching.
      Gary

  • @michaelmcdermott2178
    @michaelmcdermott2178 Рік тому +1

    Thanks, Gary! I use carbide fairly frequently, so getting your take on the technique is golden.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Thank you Michael. It works for me. Hope it works out for you as well.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @clintonratcliffe8086
    @clintonratcliffe8086 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you Sir for the great info.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  10 місяців тому

      Thank you Clinton. I appreciate you watching and commenting.
      Gary

  • @skipflorey2511
    @skipflorey2511 2 роки тому +1

    Gary,
    Wonderful bowl you turned. I enjoyed seeing it all done with carbide tools. The explanation of how the curve of the bowl relates to the tool position was superb.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Skip and thanks for watching.
      Gary

  • @Zerkbern
    @Zerkbern 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you! I watch a lot of turning videos and very few of them actually show techniques particularly around safety. Thank you.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you! Understanding the geometry of the catch really helps to see why it happens. And should help to avoid it.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @woodturningartbyhabeebasad1020
    @woodturningartbyhabeebasad1020 2 роки тому +1

    Good job brother👍🏽. yes I love my carbide tools. LOL now I know where the experience cutting coming from my friend ☺️. And we are in 80° temperature in LA 😂

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much! Oh gee thanks it is 80 in LA..way to rub it in! .And I thought you were a pretty good guy LOL Well it has warmed up some here but that is because we are now having rain.
      But that is Oregon for you. Up here we don't tan we RUST!
      Take care my friend,
      Gary

  • @malcolm4200
    @malcolm4200 5 місяців тому +1

    I have been pen turning for 4 years now using carbide tools only, and i still get catches especially on acrylics, so this information is going to come in really handy for me, Thank you so much, liked and subscribed. best wishes from Nova Scotia.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  5 місяців тому

      Thanks Malcolm. Happy it helps
      Gary

  • @robertweldon7909
    @robertweldon7909 2 роки тому +1

    So, you were a professional pattern maker. Now I know why you gain the results you always get.
    I can't even imagine turning 6 foot diameter turnings, let alone actually doing it.
    This is something that every person who wants to start turning wood should see. Great video. ;-)

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you very much Robert. I did do one bigger but it was just a ring. But it was close to 8 foot diameter but was only about 4 inches thick as I recall.
      I always thought I had the woodworkers dream job.
      Thanks for watching and commenting.
      Gary

  • @garyp8471
    @garyp8471 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the information on how to position the carbide tools, that's what i'm learning with carbide. Just the job thanks Gary. All the best from Lincolnshire UK

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much Gary. Hope it helps. Nothing wrong using them either. I have never had anyone I gave a bowl to ask me if I used a gouge or a carbide cutter.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @timothyhatch4985
    @timothyhatch4985 2 роки тому +1

    Ah that explains that catch on the inside... Too Big of a bite... Great Info Thanks Gary.. So now I know.. time to put it to use on that Burl I'm working on when I get home...

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Timothy and have fun turning the Burl.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @ACKSWOODPASTE
    @ACKSWOODPASTE 2 роки тому +2

    Good info GARY, they can be dangerous, 2 years ago I had a carbide catch and it kicked back and up so hard, it cracked 2 of my ribs, no fun.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Tom. For sure they can be dangerous and scary. If someone got a catch the whole shop would hear it and look over toward the lathe.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @vernsteinbrecker3759
    @vernsteinbrecker3759 2 роки тому +1

    Great informative video

  • @Bbutler787
    @Bbutler787 2 роки тому +1

    Most excellent video on carbide cutters.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Bruce, glad it was helpful.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @radarthewoodturner8912
    @radarthewoodturner8912 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Gary great information my favorite are the dizzy bowls stay safe friend👍👍👍👍

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Radar and I love to do dizzy bowls so I should think about doing another. They take a lot of hours for sure.
      Take care my friend,
      Gary

  • @terryflynn2791
    @terryflynn2791 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting a d helpful Thans Gary.Terry downunder

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Thanks you Terry and thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz
    @ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz Рік тому +2

    Thanks for your response. I used all 30 wedges, maybe my jig was 11.85 deg because the plug is 3” tapered to 1” as instructed and the joints are outstanding. Can’t wait to spin it. You are an inspiration, bravo!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Happy it all worked out for you.
      Thanks for letting me know.
      Gary

  • @donaldtrabeaux5235
    @donaldtrabeaux5235 2 роки тому +1

    Absolutely awesome video Mr. Gary thanks for sharing.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Donald and thanks for watching.
      Gary

  • @kevincale1366
    @kevincale1366 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this,
    Always happy when I’m learning

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Kevin, happy you enjoyed the video.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @mvecellio1
    @mvecellio1 2 роки тому +1

    Gary, that is a great explanation. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Very welcome and glad it was helpful.
      Gary

  • @MarklTucson
    @MarklTucson 2 роки тому +1

    Very impressed with the pattern making work you did. That is a craft that requires great skill.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you Mark. It was a job I knew I wanted to do when I was in high school. There was a pattern shop behind where I lived. As a young boy I did not know what they were doing but wanted to do it. In high school I found out what it was and set out to get an apprenticeship.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @bluebow68
    @bluebow68 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for sharing your skills..I learned a lot...Greetings from the U.K.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      You are very welcome and thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @mshaf
    @mshaf 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you, Gary. I'm a fairly new turner and am trying to figure out angles and positioning of the tools. This helps a lot.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Michael. Happy you found it helpful.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @arleyloeffler8205
    @arleyloeffler8205 Рік тому +1

    i REALLY like your videos. I learn something or am reminded of good practices from virtually every one of them

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Glad you like them Arley and I appreciate you taking time to comment.
      Happy New Year,
      Gary

  • @stevefromlondon9175
    @stevefromlondon9175 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for making this video it was a great help
    Regards
    Steve London UK

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  11 місяців тому

      Thank you Steve. Happy you found it useful.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @timgarner
    @timgarner 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Gary, You showed me something that I have had problems with now I know! I will be trying this in the future.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Tim. I hope it works great for you. I only go a little past center and showed it as a long way just to make it easier to see.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @bobh5616
    @bobh5616 2 роки тому +1

    Very useful - thank you

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Bob and thanks for watching.
      Gary

  • @spiritwynd
    @spiritwynd 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Gary! I'm going to have to try your technique the next time I use my carbides!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Heather and best of luck.
      Gary

  • @dougpeters4395
    @dougpeters4395 2 роки тому +2

    Great information Gary. Really appreciate all the stuff I have learned since I started watching your channel.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Doug and thanks for watching.
      Gary

  • @carolriley8472
    @carolriley8472 2 роки тому +1

    Very informative video...loved it! Wow, that was one huge piece you turned!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Carol. That one in the small shop I did shortly after finishing my apprenticeship.
      In the shop I went to where you see me turning there was a large post lathe to the right out of site. I did turn a ring almost 8 foot in diameter but was only about 4 or 5 inches thick as I recall. Wished I had taken pictures of everything I built. But I did take a lot.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @markv1027
    @markv1027 2 роки тому +1

    Perfect! I just bought my first carbide cutters and wasn't really sure how to use them. Thanks for the instruction. Have a great weekend Gary!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Mark. I would say take a piece of scrap and play around with the new tool. I would practice on the outside starting having the cutting edge just a bit above center and adjust from there for what works for you.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @randsipe224
    @randsipe224 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks, this was really helpful to this newbie. I’m using all carbide in 3 profiles.❤

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  10 місяців тому

      Thank you for watching and commenting Rand. Have a great time at your lathe. I sure enjoy it.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @williamruder8505
    @williamruder8505 2 роки тому +1

    This was very helpful. I’ve been turning for only a year and seldom use carbide. Partly because of the inside catch. The way you explained it and demonstrated it gave me the insight I need. I mostly use gauges but recently I’ve needed the reach that the carbide tools give me. I now feel like I can approach this with knowledge and confidence. Thank you.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you William. For sure reaching deep inside a vessel is one of the more difficult cuts I do. You just can't see what is going on as well. A nice heavy tool and setup correctly is a great help.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @qd63991
    @qd63991 2 роки тому +1

    Your videos are great! I always learn so much!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you very much. And thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @raydriver7300
    @raydriver7300 2 роки тому +1

    I thoroughly enjoy your videos Gary and I thank you for sharing. Another night when I go to bed less stupid. You asked me to let you know how I got on with the oak plank turned into a bowl: let’s just say it wasn’t a total failure. The glue lines show too much and I think my two year old glue is past its use by date. I have only been turning for two years and your teaching has helped me so much. If had had your name, my numbers would be 1949 🌞

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Ray. Well I bet when you get some new glue and give it another shot you will do much better.
      Oh yeah I remember 1949 very well LOL. Actually we were in the 1948 Vanport Oregon flood and the house floated down the river. I only have stories of it and my brother(13 years older)
      caring me out. We used to kid about that. We lost him last year but I like passing that story on.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @jimmy1dee
    @jimmy1dee 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent and informative presentation, I believe that this will help make my carbide tools more friendly, thank you for taking the time to make this video.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Jimmy. Happy you found it useful.
      Happy turning,
      Gary

  • @williamellis8993
    @williamellis8993 2 роки тому +1

    Great info for the turners in your audience, Gary. Take care.
    Bill

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Bill, I thought about doing this a few years ago and there just has been a little more interest so I went ahead and did it. Plus it was fairly quick and it has been cold. It is 26 here this morning.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @stewartmcmanus3991
    @stewartmcmanus3991 2 роки тому +1

    That was a great lesson, thanks Gary.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Stewart and thanks for watching.

  • @bradwiebelhaus7065
    @bradwiebelhaus7065 2 роки тому +1

    Great instruction

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Brad. Happy you enjoyed it.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @watcher2610
    @watcher2610 2 роки тому +6

    Hi Gary, I was a master carpenter ( nobody is except maybe Norm) and instructor for 50 years and most of the influencers are new and are great for teaching me what I forgot! But you always challenge me with something new. So I had to subscribe and comment. Which I I only done 5 other times.. thanks and keep up the good work!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Well thank you very much and thanks for subscribing. I worked as a journeyman wood pattern maker and I still love to learn something new. You sound the same.
      Thanks again,
      Gary

  • @garymoulston8443
    @garymoulston8443 Рік тому +1

    Thanks so much, I had trouble with catch’s on the inside of bowls now I know why, thanks again

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Thank you Gary. Happy it helped and have fun.
      Gary

  • @marcelorios3251
    @marcelorios3251 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for this very usefull video, Cheers from Argentina!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  8 місяців тому +1

      Thank you and thanks for watching.

  • @RayWhitbyCreations
    @RayWhitbyCreations 2 роки тому +3

    Definitely want to get one of those overgrown negative rake scrapers! Still need to learn how to hollow the base for narrower aperture bowls/vases.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +2

      I love that big scraper. Almost feels like cheating...but I am fine with that.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @MarklTucson
    @MarklTucson 2 роки тому +1

    Very clear explanation. Thanks. There is a place for both traditional and carbide tools. I’ve found carbide works really well for resin and hybrid turning.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Mark, I do not turn resin but I do see most people use carbides for that. When turning the inside of Black Locust end grain I find it helpful as well. I did one once where I had to stop and go buy one of the small round negative rake carbide cutters to finish it.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @TheTinyWorkshop
    @TheTinyWorkshop 2 роки тому +1

    Good lesson Gary. Thanks for this explanation.
    Frank.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Frank! Happy you enjoyed it.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @markb8954
    @markb8954 2 роки тому +1

    Great explanation & the diagram really made it hit home. We use a mix of traditional tools & carbide tools & the more we (wife & I) turn the better we get. Then bam - a catch. Most of the Easy Wood Tool (carbide) information guides indicate tool placement as “slightly” above center. But now I see on the inside, slightly below center is needed & why. Thanks for the good demo. Nice little bowl too.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Mark. Yes all I have ever seen was on center of slightly above. The geometry tells me is should be slightly below on the inside.
      Have fun turning,
      Gary

  • @timponder7487
    @timponder7487 2 роки тому +1

    Very informative Gary answered some questions I had about carbide very helpful 👍

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Tim. Happy it helped.
      Gary

  • @joannkister2540
    @joannkister2540 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks the information was helpful

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Joann! Happy you enjoyed the video.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @dennisrood1469
    @dennisrood1469 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you it will help a lot

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Dennis and thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @JiggsysShed
    @JiggsysShed 2 роки тому +1

    Great video Gary, very informative. Thanks for sharing.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much and thanks for watching.
      Gary

  • @kentturkow1572
    @kentturkow1572 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the informative video, always interesting to have technics explained.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Kent and thanks for watching.
      Gary

  • @michaelogden5958
    @michaelogden5958 Рік тому +1

    Good info. I've been turning for years with conventional tools. About a month ago, I decided to give "the dark side" a spin (pun not intended) with a Simple Shear Cutting Finisher Tool. I'm not yet convinced that it is "better", but I'm trying to give it a fair shake. I have to admit that I've seen some really nice pieces done with carbide tools. Cheers!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Thank you very much Michael.
      When I learned to turn all we really used were scrapers. I learned as an apprentice wood patternmaker.
      The scrapers we used were the best way to be able to turn to dimensions on a drawing that had to be exact.
      Plus bowl gouges were not a very common thing back then.
      The carbide tools are just scrapers on a smaller scale than what I used.
      I think there is a place for them for sure and I just call them another tool that I have access to.
      Happy turning my friend,
      Gary

  • @rroe5718
    @rroe5718 2 роки тому

    Excellent job of showing and explaining this important issue

  • @NBCRGraphicDesign
    @NBCRGraphicDesign 2 роки тому +2

    We are often told that it is the burr on a negative rake scraper that does the work... and after a few seconds the burr is gone and it's time to regrind to get a new burr. However..... Carbide does not create a burr. So how do carbide negative rake scrapers work so well? Is it just tool geometry? Last.... Do you build your own carbide tools? Favorite source for replacement cutters?
    Thanks.... I worked as "Pattern Boy" right out of college (Industrial Arts-1981) and have the utmost respect for that trade. It has certainly changed in the last 30 years. I learned ton in my stint there.... From working with mammoth machines and their upkeep, to fine, precision skills to ensure accuracy. I told my students a story the other day about an emergency modification I had to do on a pattern. The foundry guys were in my shop b/c they needed the change right away. We painted our patterns with Freeman Pattern Paint--the lacquer based stuff. As soon as I painted the changed part they lit the paint on fire to burn off the solvent and dry the paint. By the time they walked back to the foundry area they were ready to ram up the modified pattern. Good times!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Dave! All HHS scrapers cut using a burr. And I think they cut better than any carbide cutter. The advantage to the carbide is they stay sharper longer. And the fact there is not burr I do not think they cut as good as the HSS scrapers. You can hone the flat ones and it does help but if you get a burr it is on the wrong side to help you.
      The negative rake carbides help to not get catches for the same reason the HSS ones do, But no burr so do not cut like the HSS ones do.
      I remember the stories of the old time pattern makers lighting the paint to get it to dry. But they were using Shellac and it flashed off and that was it. I heard about an apprentice in a different shop lighting up lacquer and just about burned the pattern up before they could get the fire out.
      We used lots of Freeman products as well.
      So when you say Pattern Boy is that an apprentice or a helper?
      Yes it was good times for me as well. I remember taking a trip to one of the foundries to do a design change on how some cores fit together. The mold was so big I could climb down inside and look at the fit of the cores and then go back to the shop and adjust the core box. That was one big pattern I made and one big sand mold.
      Thanks for watching and your stories. Good Times
      Gary

    • @NBCRGraphicDesign
      @NBCRGraphicDesign 2 роки тому +1

      I got the job in a pattern shop a few weeks before my college graduation-- I was not sure if I wanted to become a shop teacher, or go into industry. The actual pattern maker only worked 3 days a week, so he would show me what to do on the days in between when I was alone. The plant foreman was there all five days, as well, so I was not completely alone on those days. By August I was offered a teaching job, so I did not stay in that field.... I was only a Pattern Boy-- not even an apprentice.... But it was really great work. The patternshop was at one end of the building, a complete machine shop in the middle, and a foundry at the far end. But it was a skeleton crew-- 1981 was the beginning of the end for many old industries in Trenton, NJ. This is my 41st year as a shop teacher and I still fondly remember those months I spent in that pattern shop.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      I think being a shop teacher would be a great job. I had 3 teachers that inspired me. First was in grade school. He was strict if you goofed off but I loved the class and never goofed off. The other two in high school were great as well. Both the wood shop and the metal shop teachers. Also took architectural drawing and the metal shop teacher taught that.

  • @alinmayerthorpe7801
    @alinmayerthorpe7801 2 роки тому +1

    That was a great tutorial Gary and I learned a lot having never had any instruction on turning! I love my carbides and by trial and error found that keeping them in the center of the work is the best way to use them! Thanks!
    Cheers Al

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Al and yes the center should work fine.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @kathleenposton2334
    @kathleenposton2334 2 роки тому +1

    VERY informative, Gary!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Kathleen and thanks for watching.
      Gary

  • @leenoble7472
    @leenoble7472 2 роки тому +1

    That was a great explanation. Thank you so much.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Lee, happy you enjoyed it.
      Gary

  • @glen3257
    @glen3257 2 роки тому +1

    another awesome video Gary, Thank you.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Glen and thanks for watching.
      Gary

  • @mikeyoung8126
    @mikeyoung8126 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you Gary great educational video take care and God bless

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much Mike and God bless you as well.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @jnol9009
    @jnol9009 2 роки тому +1

    Thx so much for the info. I had my first bowl explode and I was using carbide. This really helps. Thx again

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you and for sure and having a bowl explode is no fun at all.
      Happy it helps.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @steverobbins9419
    @steverobbins9419 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Gary very informative. I like using the carbides. I tend to keep them horizontal and on the centre line but will try adjusting them slightly. 👍👍

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you Steve. As long as you are right on the center line you should be fine. It is when you do not pay attention and wonder off the wrong way is when it becomes a problem.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @tuffymartinez
    @tuffymartinez 2 роки тому +5

    Thank You Gary...Very much appreciated, very informative. What you do automatically, perhaps without thinking. It is nice to hear your simple breakdown of the do's & don'ts of turning. .. At 9:37 you mentioned the large casting was Titanium, WOW...Impressive piece to say the least. I shared this one with a machinist friend that lives near by you.... TM

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thanks Tuffy! I wanted to put a picture of the huge pump body I made but I did not do any turning on it. But I am standing by it and it stands as tall as me.
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @alanchappell414
    @alanchappell414 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant!! Thank you very much👍👍👍

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому +1

      Thank you very much Alan and thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @calmwoodcreations3709
    @calmwoodcreations3709 2 роки тому +5

    That laurel bowl was turned from my start to your finish, completely with carbide edges! As you may recall, Gary, that's all I've ever used. Had to teach myself how to turn and carbide was my choice. Your methods and mine differ, somewhat-- one to try is the square bit for most extererior cuts except the curve to that base. I've found it cuts smoother and I have better control of the cut. Also, carbide bits can be sharpened! Using diamond card files from 600 to 1,000 grit, sharpen *only* the face by lightly pressing the bit to the card with a fingertip and move it rapidly in small circles, working up through the grits. When the screw will no longer tighten it down to the shaft, toss it away and replace. It'll be quite awhile before it gets to that point. In 5 years, I have tossed only one that wouldn't tighten; others get tossed when they meet the chuck.😳 Cheers!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Well Dave I knew there was a good reason to finish that bowl in this video. I would have used bowl gouges had I done it on its own. So this was meant to be.
      I plan on making another holder that puts the point straight out. I think this would make a great cutting tool. Just like my larger scraper. It is very controllable on light and heavy cuts.
      I sharpen them on a diamond card as well. But unlike a HSS scraper you are not putting a burr on it. That is why I feel the scraper cuts better but dulls faster.
      Take care,
      Gary

    • @calmwoodcreations3709
      @calmwoodcreations3709 2 роки тому

      @@ThePapa1947 EasyWood now makes neg rake bits for all their full-size handles. I grabbed 'em for the round and square shafts. They do work nicely, but I haven't yet figured out how to sharpen them when they get too dull.

  • @marcywodniakowski3185
    @marcywodniakowski3185 Рік тому +1

    Great explanation! Thanks for sharing this.

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      Thank you Marcy and thanks for watching.
      Gary

  • @stephendonathan6782
    @stephendonathan6782 2 роки тому +1

    Great video! I'm glad you did this video because I bought a swanneck carbide tool to do hollow forms. I kept getting catches and couldn't figure out why. So thank you very much for sharing this! Take care and GOD BLESS 🙏!

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you Stephen. The swan neck tool is tricky to begin with and if you are off a little it can be nearly impossible.
      God bless and take care my friend,
      Gary

  • @LeeEnfield308
    @LeeEnfield308 2 роки тому +1

    Many thanks for posting this video, it was both interesting and informative, with a very nice little bowl at the end to demonstrate what you'd just been saying 👍👍🙂🙂

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you very much. Happy you enjoyed it.
      Very interesting name you have there. I guess different than the British 303 Enfield?
      Thanks for watching,
      Gary

  • @ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz
    @ElliottSkorupa-dm2bz Рік тому +1

    was hoping to learn the wide and narrow sided radius measurements on the center plug used in the twisted tangent stave bowl.
    Thanks, Elliott

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  Рік тому

      I have made two of those videos. Which one are you talking about and I will give you a dimension that will work.
      If it is the smaller one I started with 3" on the top and 1" on the bottom. I made adjustments to it while checking how the staves closed up.
      That is directly connected to the size of the staves.
      Hope that helps and if not leave a comment in the video you are talking about and it might help me explain better.
      Gary

  • @simonrourke9817
    @simonrourke9817 2 роки тому +1

    Great explanation, thank you for your knowledge. I feel a bit better about using my carbide tools. 👍👍👍

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you Simon. Happy it was helpful.
      Take care,
      Gary

  • @cookiescoop6065
    @cookiescoop6065 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you sir that will make a big difference for my turning ✌️

    • @ThePapa1947
      @ThePapa1947  2 роки тому

      Thank you very much and thanks for watching.
      Gary