@@anarchyantz1564 Though it probably took more then a few weeks. Well for characters who was first time stumbling through things and not knowing assassin builds.
Did you know: You can actually interrupt Valen Dreth's taunting at the beginning of Oblivion with a well-placed fireball spell. Yes, it can actually go under the cell door, and hit his foot, setting him ablaze right there and then.
I love how Valen Dreth says “Oh you didn’t know? No one leaves here alive” than later says “I’ll be out of here in a couple of weeks” although to be fair, he was technically right with the first statement
Corypheus from dragon age: inquisition! He throws a dragon at you, calls you a loser, and you fall down a mineshaft to narrowly get away. Then at the end of the game, you spent so much time fighting bears in the Hinterlands that his boss fight takes like 3 seconds
@Drizzt Do'Urden good question! i always play on story difficulty because im bad at video games but word is, in my fandom circles anyway, that its usually an easy fight from any angle.
@@TheTwilighthawke that and Dragon Age Inquisition is a pretty hard game in general. I can’t get past the hinterlands on anything other than easy difficulty. Let alone get all the way to a final boss fight!
@Drizzt Do'Urden if you're easy/normal difficulty his boss fight doesn't take that long unless you're either underleveled or don't have any archers/mages to attack him when he does this thing where you can't get to him.
@Drizzt Do'Urden The final fight with him, in my opinion is not hard (I've done it on both Normal and Hard difficulty) I think the Red Lyrium Dragon is the worst part of it. imo it's better to have Vivienne, Solas and Cassandra in your lineup when you go against them.
Ah, Valen Dreth... One of exactly two reasons joining the Dark Brotherhood is worth it. The other, of course, is Shadowmere. Whose an adorable Daedric equine? You are!
I lost a game of "Dude, where's my horse?" in Skyrim. I'm pretty sure it was somewhere in the canyons around Markarth, but Shadowmere will have to take care of himself for a bit...
There was a glitch in my game where I preeminently killed shadow mare in Skyrim he fell off a cliff running to me and never respawned and I tried to reload the save but my previous save was too far back, I warned all my friends to stay away from cliffs
I went a step farther in getting back at Benny. When I saw him tied up in the Caesars Legion camp, exactly the way my character was in the opening scene, I knew I had to execute him with his own gun to bring things full circle, even though it meant killing the entire legion camp including Caesar himself because they all went aggro on me afterward. Most satisfying cold blooded murder in fallout history.
I don't see a downside to that. My normal playthrough in FO:NV is to march into the Caesar's Legion camp, take care of the bunker, then kill the entire Legion starting with Caesar. I wouldn't mind if Benny was first. Then again, I usually convince Swank that Benny betrayed them and kill Benny immediately so I've never actually seen him at the camp...
Even if you don't do it yourself, convincing Anderson to go and punch Udina in the face towards the end of ME1 is extremly satisfying every single time.
@@techlorknight338 true. but I find a good old fashioned knuckle sandwich more gratifying. perhaps I'm just a sofite that way. plus, I don't tend to replay ME3 as much.
Dreth doesn't just have unique lines for all the races, he has slightly unique lines for your chosen gender as well which means that if you are a lady dunmer he throws some sexism on top of that racism.
@@Warlady21 it's mostly speculation, but if you pay attention to the NPC chats during quests: The rich old guy in Bruma verbally abuses his man servant (who you can't kill if you want the bonus) The pirate crew (whom you can't kill) hate the captain you're hired to kill but love their first mate. I think the mercenary captain is a suicide (haven't played in a while). At least one, if not all of, the guards hate Valen. The real mystery is murder manor; several of them were definitely involved in some sort of incident.
@@tyrant-den884 i have always understood it as murder manor being a "clean up" of all the other contracts. Getting rid of everyone that knew the dark brotherhood was behind the rest of them.
@@tyrant-den884 nothing really, i guess just headcanon. I couldnt think why there would be a bunch of randos needing murdered and i linked it to the trope that you alway get rid of the middle man when hiring assassins.
Ah yes the old time tradition of being destroyed at the beginning of the game only to become an unbeatable god that spartan kicks their enemies to death... Truly a tale as old as time.
Also in the Bioware line: the Collector Ship at the start of Mass Effect 2. Wrecks the Normandy and literally kills you in the first five minutes. Several hours, new friendships and intense romances later (also a few costly upgrades) and you absolutely tear them to bits.
I'd also put in a word for being able to show everyone in the first Mass Effect. Saren Arterius goes rogue on the Citadel Council who refuse to believe anything Commander Shepard says, he gets to fly around on the back of Sovreign, a terrifying sentient spaceship called a Reaper who like murdering the entire galaxy every 50,000 years, AND he has one of your crewmate's mothers on-side. Also, the second time you and Saren meet, one of your squadmates dies setting off a nuclear bomb. Thankfully, right at the end, you get to end Saren (either by shooting at him or convincing him to kill himself), at which point Sovreign uploads itself into whatever's left of Saren's corpse. Upon defeating Saren/Sovreign, the massive spaceship holding its own against a united front of every council race, suddenly stops moving, at which point everybody blows it to bits. Your reward for this is "you were right all along" and, regardless of whether or not you chose to save the Citadel Council even after they refused to believe you despite the overwhelming evidence or let the obstinate bastards die, humans get a seat on the Council BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT then two years later, nobody believes in the Reapers anymore and the whole frustrating cycle begins anew.
The best one was Runt in Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Literally bats you around like a cat with a ball of yarn because you were tying to bury your dead parents, and happened to have a shiny new sword your dad made at your hip. You then spend weeks recuperating, training and tracking down his gang as a medieval detective, and bring a whole army to bust up his camp, duel him in a burning church and bash his face in.
Charles Lee in Assassin's Creed 3. He pins young Connor to a tree and burns down his village, killing his mother, only for Connor to spend the majority of his life training and hunting him down
Except doesn't it turn out it was actually Washington's men who burned down Connor's village? I seem to recall Haytham trying to use that reveal to change Connor's allegiance, but it's been years.
When playing the dark brotherhood quests you sometimes have the option to talk to your victim before killing. I always chose the "say nothing" one. Except for him.
In Dishonored you're accused of murdering the Empress by the Spymaster and the High Overseer (basically the pope). And boy, do you get to show those jerks! Not only that, but the actual assassin too!
My favorite of these kind of moments will always be beating Seifer from FFVIII, not just because beating him is satisfying but because of how things go down if you have Odin are your team prior to the fight.
Yeah... Benny shoots a woman in the head and she spend 20 hours hunting him down because she wants a piece of that... I buy flowers and can't get a text back.
Zenimax never owned Obsidian. They contracted them out to make New Vegas, and unlike BioWare and Lucasarts who repressed and rushed Obsidian, Zenimax welcomed their input. Now that Microsoft owns them all, we might get another Obsidian made Fallout. I was hoping with Obsidian would come the final Kotor which they were making until like usual, BioWare stopped them from outshining their trash…. Again. Now the remake is in the hands of Aspyr, which I actually got behind, but instead of contracting with Microsoft, they contracted with Sony, who’s an Alphabet supporter game maker, so the remake Aspyr was gonna make has already become a horrid retelling of a once grand series, kinda like Swtor, but worse.
@@erikurizita6702 BioWare had nothing to do with Obsidian being rushed on KOTOR II, in fact they had moved on to Mass Effect at the time. What a weird thing to believe, it wasn’t like it was BioWare’s property anyways, it was Lucasarts lmao But also New Vegas was rushed as well.
He's a pretty chill dude, and he kills the annoying necromancer. This is a list for jerks. He's just fulfilling his obligatory duty in the endless chain. Plus he is the last you.
I can't remember if it was brought up on any of the previous videos but Grigori the giant dragon from Dragon's Dogma starts the game by ripping your heart out of your chest, then you spend all the game trying to get it back.
IDK I'm way more mad at Kellogg from Fallout 4. I spent two hours modeling myself and my wife thinking we were about to have a grand adventure and that SOB just shot her in the intro? Hunting him down and ending him was the best moment in the series to me.
@@AshirenAloiseVoidsung i did...made her look pretty good and then she died...2 hours I wasted making both characters look great and it was for nothing!
@@AshirenAloiseVoidsung *gasp* Nah I didn't bother on secondary playthroughs, but my first time I had my actual wife sit there and model for me so I could get her just right and she was watching me play when Nora got shot. It was kinda awkward 😂
I loved it until Bethesda patched out the part where you can have him follow you to the end of the Sewers then killing him when he thinks he is finally free...
One I always remember is Martinez from GTA: Vice City Stories. He's an abusive but two-bit crook who starts off the game forcing you into a life of crime. You eventually become much more powerful than him, so he becomes irrelevant, but you never get to confront him... until the end, when he pops back up as the final boss, and you get to use whatever overkill weapons you want on the guy.
"When you think you've beaten him, he takes his shirt off and reveals he has lightning powers!" Anime villain trope: just when you think their beaten, the rip off their shirt and reveal their real power
@@louderthanthedj It would be funny as hell if you had to fight a boss that for a gameplay feature got all their health back every time they removed a piece of clothing. Gloves, hats, coats, jackets, shoes, you thought it was a really big tough boss at first only to realize they were wearing an ungodly amount of clothes.
He’s def the first major skill hurtle you must learn to properly progress through the game. He took me about 30-40 attempts before the mechanics really “clicked”
I found defeating the scourge beast unarmed in Bloodborne less stressful that trying to beat Genichiro the first time. It's like Miyazaki saw all the youtube videos and memes of players cheesing his bosses and made Sekiro just to say "yeah that's not going to fly anymore".
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley genichiro gets a sword known for its ability to open a gate between life and death and, well, when he realizes he still can't beat you cuts open his own neck to summon his grandfather back from the dead. the confusing part is figuring out where his grandfather got a semi automatic gun
I commented it on previous video, and i will say it again. Grigori, the Dragon from Dragons Dogma. He literally steals your heart, making you almost immortal, to motivate you to pursue him!
@@JachAnen it just wants to be killed in general, the entire thing is basically just proving that your will to live through adversity is strong enough to keep the world running
I always loved getting to beat Razor from Need For Speed: Most Wanted. He had to cheat and steal your car to beat everyone else, his strength in his profile is listed as 'Everything', and he was just a total try hard. Seeing him arrested is one of my top video game moments
The 00's era of Need For Speed games loved having you start with a powerful car and then lose it shortly afterwards, but Razor was the only villian to actually be memorable about it, being an absolute jerk, instead of just having a name and no other distinguishing features. (Anyone remember Caleb or Darius?) In Need For Speed Undercover, Chase Linh does betray the player and frame them for murder, but since the main outcome of this is a car chase, it doesn't make you want to hunt her and take her down. Which makes it sound like being smug is a bigger crime than murder.
Heheh “it’s all over over pally, you just made your last delivery, Truth is, game is rigged from the start.” One of the best lines before the kill in any video game.
Fallout objectives. Fallout: i need to find the water chip. Fallout 2: i need to find the geck. Fallout 3: i need to find my dad. Fallout 4: i need to find my son. Fallout new vegas: who shot me in the f***ing head.
Bethesda was on point back then. They even had voice acting for alternate races added by mods. Dreth be like, "What... are you? I've never seen anything like you before. Quite the creature they've captured in their cage. Well, guess what, freak! You're going to die!"
In Yakuza 0 Mr Shakedown beats Kiryu and takes his money, later on and more Dragon of Dojima than before Mr Shakedown will become the most efficient way of earning money since now you can kick his ass for an insane amount of 80's japanese money
If you do a commenter edition, you should mention Denys Geneolgia from Bravely Second! You literally travel back in time from the end of the game back to the start in order to kick his ass before his evil plan gets to happen.
Most definitely! Especially since going back and killing him actually prevents most of the horrible stuff that happens! Even one of his own minions got to have better life after we managed to defeat him.
My personal favorite is Helis from Horizon:zero dawn. Man comes dang close to ending the game early, then comes back with an army and what amounts to a gatling shotgun crossbow.
I know you can technically beat him immediately at the start but there's something so very satisfying about taking down Gary Oak ( or whatever childish name you give him ) at the end of the first series of pokemon games. He just won to be the champ and we immediately show up and rip it away from him.
i think it's worth mentioning that if you defeat Vile without getting the Weapon Upgrade Capsule, Zero will instead tell you to take HIS arm-cannon to give you an edge over Sigma, the main villain.
Dishonored: Death of the Outsider has the Outsider come along and take your arm after the first mission. Though he is at least polite enough to give you the upgrade immediately. The games title tells you one way this ends.
I guess beating Silver at every turn throughout Gold and Silver doesn't fit this list. I still think revenge is a dish best served as soon and as often as you dare.
A cool thing about jet stream Sam is that he was fully human as in the Japanese game all the robots bled white blood but jet stream Sam bled red human blood
That’s what I found cool too, I did notice (at least the english version of the game) they have raiden bleed red blood too but that’s inconsistent with raiden in Mgs4 where he bleeds white blood
I never realized until watching this video that the height for your point of view changes depending on your race in Oblivion. There's a lot about Bethesda I don't like, but their attention to details like this always impresses me.
I did update my biochip but also had a grenade launcher. Augmetics, the ability to aim, nothing really can hold an argument against the effectiveness of a can of 40mm hi ex ass whoopin.
Same here! I didn't play it for years because I was disappointed to find out Max loses his Interceptor at the start. Had I known you can build a car that essentially looks the same, I would have tried it sooner.
Oh the delicious reaction of Valen Dreth when I came back as a member of the Dark Brotherhood.. *right when he's about to be released from prison at last* [Insert Ursula evil laugh gif here]
Sarevok in Baldur's Gate. The guy murdered my dad and framed me for the murder of HIS dad (whom he also murdered, at least if you play it the way I play it). Smashing him to a bloody pulp in the final boss fight is extremely satisfying.
I always actually kill Rieltar, if I'm going to get thrown in prison for it, I might as well get the loot and xp. Besides, it was his evil plan, anyway. Sarevok just borrowed it to make it less profitable and more murdery.
@@michaelandreipalon359 I never let him join the party if that's what you're asking, although I always have a full group by that point, anyway. One of these days when I revisit the series, I'll kill him again in ToB for chuckles just to make it 3 times.
After some thought, Irenicus from BG 2 fits the video's topic, too. Capture me in narration will you... well, prepare to be double-killed for it in the finale.
@@daviddaugherty2816 Ah, OK then. Well, good luck, and make that son of a b***h Irenicus pay for his deeds since the beginning of the second game (unless you did SoD if you played that).
The Jaron Namir one is even more satisfying because there was a glitch where you could beat him in one punch if you got him right as he climbed over a wall 🤣
What's nice in MegaMan X is there are two ways of getting the Buster Upgrade for X. The one most people would get is Zeros Buster as he gifts it to you before he "dies" which we all know from future games that never happened. The other upgrade, the one meant for X is found in Flame Mammoths stage which requires both the dash boots (chill penguins stage) and the helmet (storm eagle's stage) where you'll notice similar breakable blocks leading upwards giving you X's Buster Upgrade.
Tales of Berseria sets it up nicely by having your bro-in-law Artorius I) sacrifice your little brother, ii) cuts off your arm, iii) unintentionally transforms you into a human-hybrid daemon with a soul-eating arm, iv) Imprisons you for three years making you feed on daemons. Like, couldn't he have just mercy killed you?
@@deathbykonami5487 to serve as a "mouth" for Innominat to feed the entity Malevolence, even that aside, Velvet played no part in what happened in Zesteria, if anything the events of Berseria throw everything the church preaches in that game into question, well more than Zesteria did already when it gives you Heldalf's backstory
Have you ever noticed how each of them have one game they tend to talk about in most lists? Luke: Breath of the Wild/Soul Series Andy: Yakuza series? Ellen: Kingdoms of Amalur Mike: Soul Series Jane: Fable? Just an observation ^^
Cesare Borgia from Assassin's Creed Brotherhood at the start of the game he attacks Monteriggioni, kills uncle Mario and steals the Apple of Eden. Ezio in retaliation tracks down and kills him near the end of the game.
you can defeat genishiro (the guy from sekiro) at the start of the game but you get a cutscen showing him bring in help to beat you and then cuts your arm off
The second half of the Genichiro fight was the easier part for me because I couldn't get hit by the lightning for the life of me. I tried so hard to lightning counter and everything just missed. And he tried so often.
persona 5 should definitely be on this list!! at the beginning of the game joker saves a woman from being assaulted by politician shido, and in return shido frames joker for assault and gets that put on joker's record, which forces joker to switch schools and be told that he has one last chance to prove himself before he's done for for good despite the fact that he didn't do anything wrong. this reputation also follows joker around everywhere. at the end, joker totally shows shido who's boss!
Not to mention the bonus phase added in Royal where you finish him off in a 1v1 cagematch, while the best battle theme in the game is playing in the background!!!
The Namir fight is a twofer, the woman with the remote had earlier tricked you and said “men never fail to underestimate women” but if you don’t upgrade the biochip, when she tries to shut off your bionics you just laugh and say “women never fail to underestimate men.”
If you guys ever do a part 3, I really hope you mention Kurt Dierker from The Saboteur. As soon as you meet him in the opening levels, with his arrogant, self love (and TOTALLY isn't a Nazi) you just hate the man. Then shoots out your car tire, cheating a win on the big race you've been setting up for... Then sexually assaults your female friend and then goes and unloads a entire clip into your other friend, while totally not understanding what a Irishman even is... The ending where you unload whatever weapon you want into his face, knocking him off the Eiffel Tower. Also, another great one to have would be Gary from Bully. Spends the entire first half acting as your best friend, giving you all the information and help to survive Bullworth, then turns around and back-stabs you, publicly. So you have to spend the entire game getting all the gangs on your side (even the town kids) all the while avoiding all the fake stories and lies Gary has been spreading around campus to get every to murder you for him, before the big "I am such a king!" speech at the end of the game. Kicking his ass was SO satisfying.
Ooooookay for those who want to dive way too deep. In New Vegas the best way to kill benny not only for story is to forgive him, nix him as he’s running, and help yourself to the stuff in the basement behind the hidden elevator in his room. This is only unlocked by you triggering his escape through forgiveness. Knew this would come in handy one day. Love this channel.
The first Bioshock is a prime example of this. Spoiler below. Granted you don’t know Atlas is the big evil jerk screwing you over until halfway through the game, but it’s still sweet taking him out.
Benny's bedroom talk reminds me of those episodes of Friends, and Monica is a better actress than we gave her credit for when she said Chandler was amazing in the sack.
I can say that I actually like Benny, and after spending the night with him, I never killed him. This was actually the first time I've ever seen the cut scenes where you murder him.
I definitely didn't sneak back to the dungeon at the earliest opportunity every Oblivion game and make sure that an arrow mysteriously became lodged in Dreth's head...
Man, Valen Dreth. That name takes me back. I remember during my 100% run way, way back I trapped him in a black soul gem and put it on display in Battlehorn Castle. Him, Mannimarco, Umaril, Jyggalag, and Mankar Camoran.
If you take the chip in Deus Ex, the fight Jaron can be cheesed by slowly dragging a turret from another area of the map, hacking a terminal to have it fire at enemies, and then after the cutscene you run back and hide in the elevator until the turret kills Jaron. this makes the fight possible if you take the chip and have a glitchy head
Valen Dreth: no one leaves here alive!
Also Taken Dreth: I'm leaving in a few weeks.
Technically he was correct though as he did indeed leave not alive.
@@anarchyantz1564 True.
@@anarchyantz1564 Though it probably took more then a few weeks. Well for characters who was first time stumbling through things and not knowing assassin builds.
@@anarchyantz1564 It's the best of both worlds.
Did you know: You can actually interrupt Valen Dreth's taunting at the beginning of Oblivion with a well-placed fireball spell. Yes, it can actually go under the cell door, and hit his foot, setting him ablaze right there and then.
Do you even have the fireball spell at the beginning of the game?
@@deathbykonami5487 You have access to fireball and a healing spell at the beginning of Oblivion, yes.
@@tighlia3375 that’s seems like a security risk
@@SorowFame So does letting a convicted criminal loose with the amulet of kings.
@@tighlia3375 that doesn’t make it better.
I love how Valen Dreth says “Oh you didn’t know? No one leaves here alive” than later says “I’ll be out of here in a couple of weeks” although to be fair, he was technically right with the first statement
Sounds like he was wrong with both. You left alive. He didn't.
@@bilateralrope8643 He was out in a couple of weeks, though. You have to give him that.
Body took about 2 weeks to decompose.
Corypheus from dragon age: inquisition! He throws a dragon at you, calls you a loser, and you fall down a mineshaft to narrowly get away. Then at the end of the game, you spent so much time fighting bears in the Hinterlands that his boss fight takes like 3 seconds
@Drizzt Do'Urden good question! i always play on story difficulty because im bad at video games but word is, in my fandom circles anyway, that its usually an easy fight from any angle.
@@TheTwilighthawke that and Dragon Age Inquisition is a pretty hard game in general. I can’t get past the hinterlands on anything other than easy difficulty. Let alone get all the way to a final boss fight!
@Drizzt Do'Urden if you're easy/normal difficulty his boss fight doesn't take that long unless you're either underleveled or don't have any archers/mages to attack him when he does this thing where you can't get to him.
@Drizzt Do'Urden The final fight with him, in my opinion is not hard (I've done it on both Normal and Hard difficulty) I think the Red Lyrium Dragon is the worst part of it. imo it's better to have Vivienne, Solas and Cassandra in your lineup when you go against them.
But is that technically the start of the game?
Ah, Valen Dreth... One of exactly two reasons joining the Dark Brotherhood is worth it. The other, of course, is Shadowmere. Whose an adorable Daedric equine? You are!
I lost a game of "Dude, where's my horse?" in Skyrim. I'm pretty sure it was somewhere in the canyons around Markarth, but Shadowmere will have to take care of himself for a bit...
No Babette? Alright...
There was a glitch in my game where I preeminently killed shadow mare in Skyrim he fell off a cliff running to me and never respawned and I tried to reload the save but my previous save was too far back, I warned all my friends to stay away from cliffs
Ah yes shadowmere the bag of holding such a wonderful gift
The whole thing was awesome 😎
I went a step farther in getting back at Benny. When I saw him tied up in the Caesars Legion camp, exactly the way my character was in the opening scene, I knew I had to execute him with his own gun to bring things full circle, even though it meant killing the entire legion camp including Caesar himself because they all went aggro on me afterward. Most satisfying cold blooded murder in fallout history.
I don't see a downside to that. My normal playthrough in FO:NV is to march into the Caesar's Legion camp, take care of the bunker, then kill the entire Legion starting with Caesar. I wouldn't mind if Benny was first. Then again, I usually convince Swank that Benny betrayed them and kill Benny immediately so I've never actually seen him at the camp...
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Hopefully you brought Boone with you.
I think it would be better to kill everyone in the fort and then just leave him tied up there to die of dehydration
I've never beaten new Vegas
I'm still debating how I want to handle Benny
I've been on this dilemma since launch
Even if you don't do it yourself, convincing Anderson to go and punch Udina in the face towards the end of ME1 is extremly satisfying every single time.
I mean we do get to put a bullet in him later in the series
@@techlorknight338 true. but I find a good old fashioned knuckle sandwich more gratifying. perhaps I'm just a sofite that way. plus, I don't tend to replay ME3 as much.
I still would argue that he isn't that big of a jerk in ME1 outside of grounding the Normandy
“Nobody stabs me in the back and lives, Udina. Remember that.”
It felt so good to shoot him 2 games and hundreds of hours later.
Which brings up the notable absence of Shepherd and the Collectors from Mass Effect 2.
Dreth doesn't just have unique lines for all the races, he has slightly unique lines for your chosen gender as well which means that if you are a lady dunmer he throws some sexism on top of that racism.
I seem to recall him threatening to get the guards to let him have his way with you, because of course he does.
Would insulting another species be racist, or speciesist?
Eh, same difference. His xenophobic arse gets what it deserves.
@@yourmother6901 Depends if in Skyrim they see each other as different species or race. Its likely that they see themselves as races, not species.
@@alalalala57 good point
One of my favorite games in Oblivion is determining who hired all the Dark Brotherhood quests.
Usually whomever you can't kill if you want the bonus.
Wait, you can find that out?
@@Warlady21 it's mostly speculation, but if you pay attention to the NPC chats during quests:
The rich old guy in Bruma verbally abuses his man servant (who you can't kill if you want the bonus)
The pirate crew (whom you can't kill) hate the captain you're hired to kill but love their first mate.
I think the mercenary captain is a suicide (haven't played in a while).
At least one, if not all of, the guards hate Valen.
The real mystery is murder manor; several of them were definitely involved in some sort of incident.
@@tyrant-den884 i have always understood it as murder manor being a "clean up" of all the other contracts.
Getting rid of everyone that knew the dark brotherhood was behind the rest of them.
@@DH-xw6jp a cool idea, but based on what?
@@tyrant-den884 nothing really, i guess just headcanon.
I couldnt think why there would be a bunch of randos needing murdered and i linked it to the trope that you alway get rid of the middle man when hiring assassins.
"you were the one from my dreams" Well Patrick I don't know what to say
Ah yes the old time tradition of being destroyed at the beginning of the game only to become an unbeatable god that spartan kicks their enemies to death... Truly a tale as old as time.
Also in the Bioware line: the Collector Ship at the start of Mass Effect 2. Wrecks the Normandy and literally kills you in the first five minutes. Several hours, new friendships and intense romances later (also a few costly upgrades) and you absolutely tear them to bits.
I'd also put in a word for being able to show everyone in the first Mass Effect. Saren Arterius goes rogue on the Citadel Council who refuse to believe anything Commander Shepard says, he gets to fly around on the back of Sovreign, a terrifying sentient spaceship called a Reaper who like murdering the entire galaxy every 50,000 years, AND he has one of your crewmate's mothers on-side. Also, the second time you and Saren meet, one of your squadmates dies setting off a nuclear bomb.
Thankfully, right at the end, you get to end Saren (either by shooting at him or convincing him to kill himself), at which point Sovreign uploads itself into whatever's left of Saren's corpse. Upon defeating Saren/Sovreign, the massive spaceship holding its own against a united front of every council race, suddenly stops moving, at which point everybody blows it to bits.
Your reward for this is "you were right all along" and, regardless of whether or not you chose to save the Citadel Council even after they refused to believe you despite the overwhelming evidence or let the obstinate bastards die, humans get a seat on the Council
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT then two years later, nobody believes in the Reapers anymore and the whole frustrating cycle begins anew.
The best one was Runt in Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Literally bats you around like a cat with a ball of yarn because you were tying to bury your dead parents, and happened to have a shiny new sword your dad made at your hip. You then spend weeks recuperating, training and tracking down his gang as a medieval detective, and bring a whole army to bust up his camp, duel him in a burning church and bash his face in.
Commenter edition!!!!
The fact that KC:D wasn't on this list is criminal. He was the first character I thought of based on the video title.
Can’t cosign this hard enough. Absolute masterpiece of a game, and I REALLY want a continuation of Henry’s story.
Ahh so that's what happens, couldn't get into that game at all once I realised I wasn't some Knight off the bat lol
Charles Lee in Assassin's Creed 3. He pins young Connor to a tree and burns down his village, killing his mother, only for Connor to spend the majority of his life training and hunting him down
Except doesn't it turn out it was actually Washington's men who burned down Connor's village? I seem to recall Haytham trying to use that reveal to change Connor's allegiance, but it's been years.
@@Max-qb2rw Correct
WHERE'S CHARLES LEE
"Could I _be_ any more dead?!" gave me Oxventure Village Chandler flashbacks and I approve.
When playing the dark brotherhood quests you sometimes have the option to talk to your victim before killing. I always chose the "say nothing" one. Except for him.
The captain actually realizes who you are and basically says just kill him.
In Dishonored you're accused of murdering the Empress by the Spymaster and the High Overseer (basically the pope). And boy, do you get to show those jerks! Not only that, but the actual assassin too!
My favorite of these kind of moments will always be beating Seifer from FFVIII, not just because beating him is satisfying but because of how things go down if you have Odin are your team prior to the fight.
Yeah... Benny shoots a woman in the head and she spend 20 hours hunting him down because she wants a piece of that... I buy flowers and can't get a text back.
Is all about that alfa od bruh
Do you wear a daisy suit?
...Well... Next time you want a girl, shoot her in the head. I'm sure it'll work out, 10/10.
You’re obviously doing it wrong 😉
And a neat gun too too bad I mostly play males
"Bethesda in their infinite wisdom-" Obsidian made New Vegas, it was their decision to have charlies.
Bethesda owned Obsidian at the time, but let them have full creative control.
@@nashvontookus7451 they did not own them at the time, Obsidian was an independent company. But now they are owned by Microsoft lmao
Zenimax never owned Obsidian. They contracted them out to make New Vegas, and unlike BioWare and Lucasarts who repressed and rushed Obsidian, Zenimax welcomed their input. Now that Microsoft owns them all, we might get another Obsidian made Fallout.
I was hoping with Obsidian would come the final Kotor which they were making until like usual, BioWare stopped them from outshining their trash…. Again. Now the remake is in the hands of Aspyr, which I actually got behind, but instead of contracting with Microsoft, they contracted with Sony, who’s an Alphabet supporter game maker, so the remake Aspyr was gonna make has already become a horrid retelling of a once grand series, kinda like Swtor, but worse.
Developed by Obsidian, published by Bethesda
@@erikurizita6702 BioWare had nothing to do with Obsidian being rushed on KOTOR II, in fact they had moved on to Mass Effect at the time. What a weird thing to believe, it wasn’t like it was BioWare’s property anyways, it was Lucasarts lmao
But also New Vegas was rushed as well.
Still no Grigori, the Dragon from Dragons Dogma? Literally rips your heart out at the start of the game.
He's a pretty chill dude, and he kills the annoying necromancer. This is a list for jerks. He's just fulfilling his obligatory duty in the endless chain. Plus he is the last you.
I think Id still consider ripping your heart out and and eating it in front of you being a jerk.
I can't remember if it was brought up on any of the previous videos but Grigori the giant dragon from Dragon's Dogma starts the game by ripping your heart out of your chest, then you spend all the game trying to get it back.
And eating it while youre still conscious and can see it.
"Is not the goal of any prison system rehabilitation?"
I guess Andy's not familiar with elder scrolls prisons. Or really most prison systems.
The goal of the US Prison system is slave labor.
Yeah, Andy is a bit naive. Prisons are about separating the have note from the haves. Some have nots don't know their place, after all.
@@jacobfreeman5444 or you know it was just a joke?
I think eldar scroll prisons is just where the recruit legendary hero's
@@scheikundeiscool4086 it would make sense if the emperor just threw random nobodies on the dungeon just in case he needs a protagonist later.
IDK I'm way more mad at Kellogg from Fallout 4. I spent two hours modeling myself and my wife thinking we were about to have a grand adventure and that SOB just shot her in the intro? Hunting him down and ending him was the best moment in the series to me.
Would have been cool for the game to feature a duo protagonist.
Ngl I didn't bother editing the wife lol.
@@AshirenAloiseVoidsung i did...made her look pretty good and then she died...2 hours I wasted making both characters look great and it was for nothing!
@@AshirenAloiseVoidsung *gasp*
Nah I didn't bother on secondary playthroughs, but my first time I had my actual wife sit there and model for me so I could get her just right and she was watching me play when Nora got shot. It was kinda awkward 😂
@@AlexDuos With all apologies to your wife, that's hilarious.
Gary from bully was one of the most satisfying to defeat
Flip yes! That guy is horrible!
he's one of the most deserving characters to get his ass absolutely kicked
Killing Dreth was the best moment in all of Oblivion
I loved it until Bethesda patched out the part where you can have him follow you to the end of the Sewers then killing him when he thinks he is finally free...
All of the Dark Brotherhood quests in Oblivion are the best. Just A+ gameplay and storyline
Oh boy, here I go killing Dreth again
@@timothyoswald8618 The Night Mother's Crypt though! :D
Indeed
One I always remember is Martinez from GTA: Vice City Stories. He's an abusive but two-bit crook who starts off the game forcing you into a life of crime. You eventually become much more powerful than him, so he becomes irrelevant, but you never get to confront him... until the end, when he pops back up as the final boss, and you get to use whatever overkill weapons you want on the guy.
"When you think you've beaten him, he takes his shirt off and reveals he has lightning powers!"
Anime villain trope: just when you think their beaten, the rip off their shirt and reveal their real power
Oh you think you've beaten this boss? Well he took his shirt off so fight him again
@@louderthanthedj It would be funny as hell if you had to fight a boss that for a gameplay feature got all their health back every time they removed a piece of clothing. Gloves, hats, coats, jackets, shoes, you thought it was a really big tough boss at first only to realize they were wearing an ungodly amount of clothes.
Hmm, there's a good game or two with such a mechanic... I unfortunately forgot those games' names.
*they're beaten
@@Hellwyck thank you for catching that, I knew that sentence looked funny, I just didn't realize why
I don't know guys, Genichiro technically still whooped my ass thoroughly after i came back fully powered up and experienced, lmao
To top it off, he escaped with the powers of rejuvenating waters at the end. So, i don't consider it satisfying at all!
@@ananth.a But then you get to fight him again and beat him so bad he finishes himself off.
He’s def the first major skill hurtle you must learn to properly progress through the game. He took me about 30-40 attempts before the mechanics really “clicked”
I found defeating the scourge beast unarmed in Bloodborne less stressful that trying to beat Genichiro the first time. It's like Miyazaki saw all the youtube videos and memes of players cheesing his bosses and made Sekiro just to say "yeah that's not going to fly anymore".
@@deathbykonami5487 and then Sekiro players immediately learned how to cheese most of the bosses :) Including genichiro
Destroying Vile was so satisfying when I was a kid. Definitely my favorite game series, too!
You also can face Genichiro a 3rd time, at the end, when he is a total pushover compared to his grandfather who climbs out of him.
I was gonna say, let's not mention that Genichiro walks away from that stabbing as well lol
I'm sorry, *what?*
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley I watched it happen and I'm still confused.
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley genichiro gets a sword known for its ability to open a gate between life and death and, well, when he realizes he still can't beat you cuts open his own neck to summon his grandfather back from the dead. the confusing part is figuring out where his grandfather got a semi automatic gun
@@TheColterbolt bringing a gun to a swordfight is tight.
I commented it on previous video, and i will say it again.
Grigori, the Dragon from Dragons Dogma.
He literally steals your heart, making you almost immortal, to motivate you to pursue him!
But revenge is a bad thing in that game isn't it?? The dragon wants to be killed out of revenge
@@JachAnen it just wants to be killed in general, the entire thing is basically just proving that your will to live through adversity is strong enough to keep the world running
Every time I killed Benny I always quote back to him the game was riged from the start
The mad max game is so underrated! Loved every bit of it!
I always loved getting to beat Razor from Need For Speed: Most Wanted. He had to cheat and steal your car to beat everyone else, his strength in his profile is listed as 'Everything', and he was just a total try hard. Seeing him arrested is one of my top video game moments
The 00's era of Need For Speed games loved having you start with a powerful car and then lose it shortly afterwards, but Razor was the only villian to actually be memorable about it, being an absolute jerk, instead of just having a name and no other distinguishing features. (Anyone remember Caleb or Darius?)
In Need For Speed Undercover, Chase Linh does betray the player and frame them for murder, but since the main outcome of this is a car chase, it doesn't make you want to hunt her and take her down.
Which makes it sound like being smug is a bigger crime than murder.
Heheh “it’s all over over pally, you just made your last delivery, Truth is, game is rigged from the start.” One of the best lines before the kill in any video game.
Pity Benny is also a pawn in the very same game, whether he likes it or not.
@@michaelandreipalon359 pity benny was turned into mush by us...
Another jerk from Sekiro that gets some comeuppance is the great serpent, and the way it dies is probably the most brutal moment in the game
Valen Dreth: No one ever gets out of this prison alive.
Me: you certainly didn't. *evil laughter*
Coming here after watching a vintage OXBOX list video. Holy crap, Andy has come a long way as a presenter!!
I appreciated the Friends reference Andy... 🙂
Fallout objectives.
Fallout: i need to find the water chip.
Fallout 2: i need to find the geck.
Fallout 3: i need to find my dad.
Fallout 4: i need to find my son.
Fallout new vegas: who shot me in the f***ing head.
The level music in MMX is my favorite of the franchise, with the addition of the Zero-fight music from X2. He gets better
Damn, first time I've noticed this, but the guy on the right when Benny shoots you in Fallout New Vegas is *very* into the moment...
“RIP, Zero.”
In fact, he rests in pieces, and then he gets better. It’s… just a thing he does. **shrugs**
Does beating Calamity Ganon, the punk that got you PRIOR to the beginning of the game count?
Ah, he's just over there prancing around the castle... menacingly!
@@jardex2275 Get out of there Zelda!! Oh, wait, she can't....
Ok real talk, that Chandler Bang jokeis the hardest i’ve laughed in months. Absolutely creased 😂
The Human Revolution joke was the one that got me
...Or you could spike Bennys drug stash? More like Chanandler Bong!*
*Friends reference
That's _Miss_ Chanandler Bong...
i found it funny to kill benny by intimating his guards and stealthy killing him in one punch on the casino floor.
I played a female Dunmer and Dreth hit on me in a creepy way.
If by hit you mean
Threatend to r*pe you
Sure... Its why I always keep a paralysis spell with me when I gank him
Same :(
Lol, never knew that. Such a neat game.
Doesn't he ask the guard to let him have his way with you? yeah, absolutely zero regrets in killing him
Bethesda was on point back then. They even had voice acting for alternate races added by mods. Dreth be like, "What... are you? I've never seen anything like you before. Quite the creature they've captured in their cage. Well, guess what, freak! You're going to die!"
In Yakuza 0 Mr Shakedown beats Kiryu and takes his money, later on and more Dragon of Dojima than before Mr Shakedown will become the most efficient way of earning money since now you can kick his ass for an insane amount of 80's japanese money
If you do a commenter edition, you should mention Denys Geneolgia from Bravely Second! You literally travel back in time from the end of the game back to the start in order to kick his ass before his evil plan gets to happen.
Most definitely! Especially since going back and killing him actually prevents most of the horrible stuff that happens! Even one of his own minions got to have better life after we managed to defeat him.
How exactly does one survive getting their brain chainsawed in half?
My personal favorite is Helis from Horizon:zero dawn. Man comes dang close to ending the game early, then comes back with an army and what amounts to a gatling shotgun crossbow.
I know you can technically beat him immediately at the start but there's something so very satisfying about taking down Gary Oak ( or whatever childish name you give him ) at the end of the first series of pokemon games. He just won to be the champ and we immediately show up and rip it away from him.
It's even nicer than beating his douchy wait for you type advantage pick haha.
i think it's worth mentioning that if you defeat Vile without getting the Weapon Upgrade Capsule, Zero will instead tell you to take HIS arm-cannon to give you an edge over Sigma, the main villain.
Two of the jerks in this list have cut off the player's arm. Funny thing, that
Gotta hate that Skywalker tradition.
You would think villains would quit with the whole arm slicing thing, as it does seem to just come back and bite em good later.
Dishonored: Death of the Outsider has the Outsider come along and take your arm after the first mission. Though he is at least polite enough to give you the upgrade immediately. The games title tells you one way this ends.
“Is not the goal of any prison system rehabilitation?” *cries in USA*
generating income is more important i guess lol
@@kevinzhu6417 realistically... "Rehabilitation" is not what prisons usually do... ever.
@@marhawkman303 scandinavia disagrees
As a guy who was a correctional officer for 12 years... Yeah, they don't do that in the UD.
@@LegendStormcrow I heard it used to be better, but people complained about forcing prisoners to work....
Huh, I had entirely forgotten about Valen in Oblivion. And on one playthrough, I would have killed him too.
I guess beating Silver at every turn throughout Gold and Silver doesn't fit this list. I still think revenge is a dish best served as soon and as often as you dare.
A cool thing about jet stream Sam is that he was fully human as in the Japanese game all the robots bled white blood but jet stream Sam bled red human blood
That’s what I found cool too, I did notice (at least the english version of the game) they have raiden bleed red blood too but that’s inconsistent with raiden in Mgs4 where he bleeds white blood
He is not fully human..... his right arm is a mechanical arm
@@fightnerd was about to mention that. It’s still impressive he puts up such a fight considering it’s only his arm that’s cybernetic.
I never realized until watching this video that the height for your point of view changes depending on your race in Oblivion.
There's a lot about Bethesda I don't like, but their attention to details like this always impresses me.
Skyrim does the same thing. In both games, Altmer characters are tallest and Bosmer are shortest.
Oh hello there Valen... Haven't seen you in a while... What was that about getting out of the Imperial Prison again?
That one Bandit in Kingdom Come: Deliverance that stole Radzig's sword
The Devil may Cry games as a series encapsulate this so well. Like, three of the games are just this but with your brother in one way or another.
"Woah! That was almost a full 360. Guess that's the 'human revolution' the title is talking about." 😆
I did update my biochip but also had a grenade launcher. Augmetics, the ability to aim, nothing really can hold an argument against the effectiveness of a can of 40mm hi ex ass whoopin.
7 times you went back to the starting area to find everything has changed.
NieR would be here, I guess.
Assassin's Creed III
I've been playing Mad Max all week. Still one of my favorite games.
Same here! I didn't play it for years because I was disappointed to find out Max loses his Interceptor at the start. Had I known you can build a car that essentially looks the same, I would have tried it sooner.
You forgot to put what he says if you're a female Dark Elf! That's one of the best ones
Oh the delicious reaction of Valen Dreth when I came back as a member of the Dark Brotherhood.. *right when he's about to be released from prison at last*
[Insert Ursula evil laugh gif here]
Sarevok in Baldur's Gate. The guy murdered my dad and framed me for the murder of HIS dad (whom he also murdered, at least if you play it the way I play it). Smashing him to a bloody pulp in the final boss fight is extremely satisfying.
I always actually kill Rieltar, if I'm going to get thrown in prison for it, I might as well get the loot and xp. Besides, it was his evil plan, anyway. Sarevok just borrowed it to make it less profitable and more murdery.
And how did you feel in the sequel when he... you know?
@@michaelandreipalon359 I never let him join the party if that's what you're asking, although I always have a full group by that point, anyway. One of these days when I revisit the series, I'll kill him again in ToB for chuckles just to make it 3 times.
After some thought, Irenicus from BG 2 fits the video's topic, too. Capture me in narration will you... well, prepare to be double-killed for it in the finale.
@@daviddaugherty2816 Ah, OK then.
Well, good luck, and make that son of a b***h Irenicus pay for his deeds since the beginning of the second game (unless you did SoD if you played that).
The Jaron Namir one is even more satisfying because there was a glitch where you could beat him in one punch if you got him right as he climbed over a wall 🤣
11:57 i couldnt help but laugh out loud at the transition between killing valen and the next entry
Maybe if you haven't kept calling it a 'Samurai Prosthetic', and used its real name, 'Shinobi Prosthetic', Genichiro wouldn't have cut your arm off.
[Protoype 2] Is ENTIRELY ABOUT getting back at that jerk from the start of the game.
What's nice in MegaMan X is there are two ways of getting the Buster Upgrade for X. The one most people would get is Zeros Buster as he gifts it to you before he "dies" which we all know from future games that never happened. The other upgrade, the one meant for X is found in Flame Mammoths stage which requires both the dash boots (chill penguins stage) and the helmet (storm eagle's stage) where you'll notice similar breakable blocks leading upwards giving you X's Buster Upgrade.
Just like another commenter said, at this point "because Hideo Kojima" is an explanation that will be accepted by everyone 🤣
"Created by Hideo Kojima" is the most self-explanatory sentence at this point.
Well thank god that Hideo is more infatuated by Del Toro, and not M Night Shyamalan. What a twist that potential collaboration would be.
Great list! But my personal favorite was watching my un-evolved and overpowered Charmander defeating Gary in Pokémon.
Awww the memories!
Tales of Berseria sets it up nicely by having your bro-in-law Artorius I) sacrifice your little brother, ii) cuts off your arm, iii) unintentionally transforms you into a human-hybrid daemon with a soul-eating arm, iv) Imprisons you for three years making you feed on daemons. Like, couldn't he have just mercy killed you?
That's the logic at the start at least, but the late game does at least justify why he keeps Velvet alive
@@kurosakikun96 Why? To feed her anger and hatred to turn her into the entity that ravaged the world a thousand years later in Zestiria?
@@deathbykonami5487 to serve as a "mouth" for Innominat to feed the entity Malevolence, even that aside, Velvet played no part in what happened in Zesteria, if anything the events of Berseria throw everything the church preaches in that game into question, well more than Zesteria did already when it gives you Heldalf's backstory
Have you ever noticed how each of them have one game they tend to talk about in most lists?
Luke: Breath of the Wild/Soul Series
Andy: Yakuza series?
Ellen: Kingdoms of Amalur
Mike: Soul Series
Jane: Fable?
Just an observation ^^
An idea for a list feature:
'7 mediocre video games that worked hard for that 50 on Metacritic'
Because sometimes "just ok" is fine.
@The Gaming Meta I see you know the Critic Meta...
Cesare Borgia from Assassin's Creed Brotherhood at the start of the game he attacks Monteriggioni, kills uncle Mario and steals the Apple of Eden. Ezio in retaliation tracks down and kills him near the end of the game.
you can defeat genishiro (the guy from sekiro) at the start of the game but you get a cutscen showing him bring in help to beat you and then cuts your arm off
The second half of the Genichiro fight was the easier part for me because I couldn't get hit by the lightning for the life of me. I tried so hard to lightning counter and everything just missed. And he tried so often.
persona 5 should definitely be on this list!! at the beginning of the game joker saves a woman from being assaulted by politician shido, and in return shido frames joker for assault and gets that put on joker's record, which forces joker to switch schools and be told that he has one last chance to prove himself before he's done for for good despite the fact that he didn't do anything wrong. this reputation also follows joker around everywhere. at the end, joker totally shows shido who's boss!
Not to mention the bonus phase added in Royal where you finish him off in a 1v1 cagematch, while the best battle theme in the game is playing in the background!!!
There's something so funny to me when you blast a fireball in Valen's face and have the popup give a great freeze frame
The fact that andy had to explain the chandler aged me 30 years ngl
"Nice charlies, give em shake for the ben man" always gets a good chuckle out of me lmfao
The Namir fight is a twofer, the woman with the remote had earlier tricked you and said “men never fail to underestimate women” but if you don’t upgrade the biochip, when she tries to shut off your bionics you just laugh and say “women never fail to underestimate men.”
That makes it even more epic and awesome!
If you guys ever do a part 3, I really hope you mention Kurt Dierker from The Saboteur. As soon as you meet him in the opening levels, with his arrogant, self love (and TOTALLY isn't a Nazi) you just hate the man. Then shoots out your car tire, cheating a win on the big race you've been setting up for... Then sexually assaults your female friend and then goes and unloads a entire clip into your other friend, while totally not understanding what a Irishman even is... The ending where you unload whatever weapon you want into his face, knocking him off the Eiffel Tower.
Also, another great one to have would be Gary from Bully. Spends the entire first half acting as your best friend, giving you all the information and help to survive Bullworth, then turns around and back-stabs you, publicly. So you have to spend the entire game getting all the gangs on your side (even the town kids) all the while avoiding all the fake stories and lies Gary has been spreading around campus to get every to murder you for him, before the big "I am such a king!" speech at the end of the game. Kicking his ass was SO satisfying.
Petition to make a Mad Max sequel:
Ooooookay for those who want to dive way too deep. In New Vegas the best way to kill benny not only for story is to forgive him, nix him as he’s running, and help yourself to the stuff in the basement behind the hidden elevator in his room. This is only unlocked by you triggering his escape through forgiveness. Knew this would come in handy one day. Love this channel.
The first Bioshock is a prime example of this. Spoiler below.
Granted you don’t know Atlas is the big evil jerk screwing you over until halfway through the game, but it’s still sweet taking him out.
Benny's bedroom talk reminds me of those episodes of Friends, and Monica is a better actress than we gave her credit for when she said Chandler was amazing in the sack.
I can say that I actually like Benny, and after spending the night with him, I never killed him. This was actually the first time I've ever seen the cut scenes where you murder him.
I like Benny too, and his fate for my play throughs depend on the character I'm playing as. 😄
I definitely didn't sneak back to the dungeon at the earliest opportunity every Oblivion game and make sure that an arrow mysteriously became lodged in Dreth's head...
Tartuccio from Pathfinder Kingmaker is an asshole to you at the start… and then you get to kill him as many as three times.
Man, Valen Dreth. That name takes me back.
I remember during my 100% run way, way back I trapped him in a black soul gem and put it on display in Battlehorn Castle. Him, Mannimarco, Umaril, Jyggalag, and Mankar Camoran.
Could I be any more dead, aged well 😂
If you take the chip in Deus Ex, the fight Jaron can be cheesed by slowly dragging a turret from another area of the map, hacking a terminal to have it fire at enemies, and then after the cutscene you run back and hide in the elevator until the turret kills Jaron. this makes the fight possible if you take the chip and have a glitchy head