I’ve heard the theory that Alduin saves you because he can sense the dragonborn is at helgen but he doesn’t know exactly who the Dragonborn is so he just starts killing everyone hoping to get lucky
Maybe, but then when you run into him again at Kynesgrove he just leaves you for an underling to deal with. If he did want Dragonborn dead that badly he wouldn’t have done that, and if he never considered DB enough of a threat then he wouldn’t have at Helgen to the point he’d destroy it specifically to kill DB. Pretty sure he just hopped out of the timestream pissed-off and headed to the nearest city to vent
@@ritenac6770 That is my belief as well. As for that being too convenient, I feel like it should be noted that the Doom-Driven (essentially the protagonists of the games) appear to bend probability wherever they appear (this is most obvious in the case of the Hero of Kvatch, the only protagonist of the "recent" games without inherent "fatepowers" of sorts, who defies the infallible predictions of Jyggalagg's chamberlain and becomes the new Madgod)
Alduin tries to _save_ you? Seemed to me that dragon was trying to eat your (and everyone else’s) arse. Why, exactly, would Alduin try and save the one being that could thwart their world devouring destiny? The fact you survived the encounter has less to do with Alduin trying to save you, and more to do with you being somewhat lucky and managing to sneak past the dragon to freedom. And, you can die to Alduin if you are in the wrong place at the right time. Ask me how I know.
One could argue that, at the end of Portal 2, GLaDOS _does_ view you as a friend (or at least someone she respects)... which is why she lets you go. Oh, sure, she frames it as just kicking you out because you're more trouble than you're worth, because she's far too proud to admit otherwise, but if she "only want[ed] you gone," she would've just let the vacuum of the moon swallow you. You couldn't get much more gone than that! Instead, she saves you and lets you go, protecting you from herself when the testing compulsions kick in again and giving you exactly what you want.
I'm fairly certain that's true. You'd been through a lot together by then, including helping her learn about her origins as Carolyn, which I think also humanized her a bit since she suddenly realized she was human herself once, and not just another Aperture creation initially.
No, she saves you because the human memories + emotions she recovered during your trek together made her attached to you as a friend, however, she them promptly deletes those emotions after saving you. Back to being an unfeeling robot, she kicks you out, because you're too much trouble to risk keeping around for revenge purposes.
@@tomm35 That's what she _thinks._ All the AIs in the complex are really just fragments of her own personality; the _Cara Mio Addio_ segment conveys her real subconscious feelings. And even then, she decides to send the Companion Cube after you.
I believe Alduin was actually there to stop Jarl Ulfric from being executed, as a way to prolong the civil war in Skyrim. A prolonged civil war was to his benefit, as the more dead Nords in Sovngarde, the more power he gets by eating thier souls. Ulfric was *meant* to be the first executed, but the impatient Nord basically volunteers and throws the timing off, then the Captain choses you because she's annoyed. Alduin swoops in, thinking he's saving the leader of the rebels, but ends up saving you instead. Whoops.
I disagree. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that he literally just got teleported to the future. He was far in the past and immediately was sent to the future. He's smart enough to realize what happened and why things have suddenly changed, but he's not going to know the particulars, like the Nord Civil War and who's who in it. Like Serana didn't know anything when you rescued her.
I wouldn't call Edgeworth a villain, but he does fill the role of the 'antagonist' in the first couple cases of the game. In the third case of the first game, 'Turnabout Samurai', he saves your butt by having a change of heart and forces the killer to testify about what they did after finding the victim's body. Something you needed to win and couldn't do without that testimony. Turns out, in the end, he cannot in good conscious let the truth remain hidden.
In that case I never understood why the director (the neck beard weaboo nerdy guy) didn’t also get arrested for helping her move/hide the body. He goes on to make a show based on Maya. I guess Ace Attorney world doesn’t have accessory charges lol
In the original Resident Evil 3, the titular Nemesis saves Jill on two separate occasions. The first time he shoots some zombies that have her surrounded and the second time he kills the game's other antagonist Nikolai. The reason he does this is because he wants the honor of killing Jill for himself.
He also shoots zombies that surround her in one possible path. When Umbrella designed him to accomplish his mission at any cost, I don't think they expected it to go horribly right, as in he can't just let her die, he has to be the one who does it.
Not sure about the original, but in the RE3 remake Nemesis can actually help you out during normal gameplay because he will kill zombies that get in his way. Unlike Mr. X in RE2 remake, who just pushes them aside.
To be fair to Alduin, I believe it is POSSIBLE for him to kill you in that opening sequence -- if you dither too much in getting away, he DOES finally figure out "oh HEY that prisoner over there is the Dragonborn" and roast you. But even then, he still saved you from the initial execution, and he only gets that chance to correct his mistake if the player basically allows him to. He probably gets made fun of a lot at villain parties.
I mean he was kinda paired with Clarabell who IS a cow so I can understand the confusion. Pretty sure the 2 had like a picnic together in one of the the cartoons where they all triple date?
In A Hat in Time, for the final boss, all the (non-DLC) previous bosses and enemies (the Mafia and their boss, the Conductor, DJ Groove, the Snatcher, the Goats from Alpine Skyline, etc.) wind up helping Hat Kid defeat Mustache Girl. Hat Kid wants to defeat Mustache Girl for stealing her Time Pieces, and the villains want Mustache Girl to get lost because she’s imposing her brand of judgment on them, which they obviously aren’t a huge fan of.
Kid Icarus actually has 2 more moments like these. Firstly, Dark Pit, after fighting you first, indirectly helps you as he fights against Medusa for his own reasons and later directly helps you multiple times. At one point even together with the second character: Viridi. At first she fights you because she wants to spread Nature everywhere, then even replaces Palutena as your Godess while she is gone.
what I find interesting about uprising is that smash bro's actually continues it's story if you do the Palutena guidance with dark pit as your opponent you learn that after the events of uprising DP went over to Viridi's side as one of her general's and that her and Palutena are still at it over the fate of humanity
Hades also helps Pit, Palutena, and Viridi against the Auron. Heck, the only enemies who don’t wind up helping you at some point are the Auron, Pandora, and the Chaos Kin!
i was going to suggest this too. yes, he doesn't technically become a "bad guy" until the third game but cerberus as an evil organization has existed since the first game.
Well, after Overlord only the dumbest Shepard believes he's an ally. Plus Shep is more or less considered property by TIM, hence the ultimatum at the end of the game.
Who could forget the finale of Metroid Fusion. You've spent the whole game running from the SA-X clone of Samus, and finally defeated her in a boss fight which she rudely runs away from before you can absorb her core...then you run into a fully grown Omega Metroid which promptly downs you in a couple of hits. Then the SA-X shows up, fails to defeat it, and concedes to letting Samus absorb her so she can fight it off with her Metroid destroying ice beam available again!
The dark lord from miitopia! After you defeat him, he comes along with you to help defeat the darker lord. He isn't great in a fight but those extra hp bananas definitely helped! He also guards new Lumos in the post game, so he tries to save your butt there, but you just walk on by him.
Here's a great one: Halo 3, The Gravemind in the mission The Covenant. Yes, The Flood was trying to kill you constantly for the last 2.5 games, and will continue to do so for the rest of the game, but the Flood turned what could have been a horrendous slog into a breeze, all for the sake of not having every living thing in the galaxy get destroyed.
@@129das No, it's in Halo 3, like I said, the mission The Covenant. It's the final mission where you fight any Covenant in the original trilogy since their leader dies. Top Tier Mission.
Yes, the Gravemind does also save Master Chief in Halo 2 for the same reason. The occurence in Halo 3 is more memorable though since you actually are helped by friendly flood monsters.
@@akaviri5 oh true, true. The Gravemind does teleport The Arbiter to the Tower so that he can stop Tartarus (however you spell his name) from activating the ring. Very true.
The fact that the Gravemind helps you only serves to make the flood more intimidating. He's an intelligent hive mind bent on infecting the entire universe. In Halo 2 he decides to play chessmaster and sticks Arbiter and Master Chief in the two locations best suited to stopping Delta Halo from firing. In Halo 3 he brings the infected High Charity to the ark and briefly sends a legion of flood to help Chief and the Arbiter stop the Ark from firing all the Halo rings only to immediately betray you the moment you've stopped them. He's consistently intelligent throughout the whole of both games and it makes him quite terrifying.
In Norway Goofy is called "Langbein/Longleg", a name also used for what english speaking people might recognise as a "daddy long legs" spider. Just to make it a bit more confusing...
Gilgamesh in Final Fantasy V @ the interdimensional rift during your battle with Necrophobe. Gilgamesh is a recurring frenemy in the game and an absolute charmer, he shows up during one of the final boss fights to help you (and bless you with his godlike theme song), also gives an adorable 'power of friendship' style pep talk to bartz & co before taking down Necrophobe. He then goes on to show up now and then in a bunch of other FF game entries via some interdimensional rift shenanigans, his memorable entrance in FF8 and his battle in FF12 being two of the highlights.
As someone who only ever played Layton and Unwound Future, I was so confused by what was going on with Layton and Don Paolo. I was just happy for the help
I Have played them, and I still had no idea what was going on half the time, especially the Chinatown part (albeit it was aaaaages ago when I played it....)
@@pkmntrainerlilac4164 you should replay Unwound Future if only for the context that gets added to all of your interactions with Clive. Like if you click on the casino after it’s demolished he asks what kind of idiots would destroy their own casino… which is either a massive self burn, or his goons went a bit further than they were supposed to and desTROYED MY CASINO! IT WAS THE ONLY THING I BUILT TO DO IN THIS CITY AND THEY LEVELLED IT! DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY I SPENT ON THAT THING! IT WAS HOW I UNWOUND AND THOSE IDIOTS-
In the Trespasser DLC for Dragon Age Inquisition, Solas, who was your companion in the main game but is the main antagonist of the next one, saves your life from what is essentially a magical terminal illness. Granted he does it by chopping your arm off at the elbow but he also says it's because he still considers you a friend and part of him actually hopes you stop him.
Seems like Bioware loves to do this. Meredith saves you in Kirkwall, Loghain offers to kill the Archdemon so you don't have to die doing it. Corypheus technically stop Solas ripping down the veil, which seems vaguely but definitely apocalyptic. The Illusive Man has you brought back with the Lazarus Project, and it turns out that Darth Malak used to be your best buddy in KOTOR. Even the big snake from Banner Saga can sort of maybe stop the end of a little bit of the world at the end of the trilogy.
if you pay attention to the relevant cutscene, when Solas leaves, the Inquisitor's arm is STILL VERY MUCH ATTACHED. what he takes is the Anchor, which stops the "illness" from getting worse, but I assume the arm cannot be saved at that point. which is why it's chopped to the elbow in the next scene.
@@helenafarkas4534They are talking about the true ending in the Trespasser DLC. Some time after you beat Corypheus. And in the end, Solas is also responsible for you getting the illness in the first place. It was he that gave Corypheus the artifact to damage the veil, which he created in the first place (the veil and the artifact both), and it was his machinations that make the illness worse.
@@alfredkugler3043 I know all that, that doesn't change that he takes what's killing you and leaves the arm behind. he physically doesn't cut off the arm to take the Anchor, he takes the magical "infection" and leaves the destroyed arm behind. he does NOT take the arm off, which is what the original comment implied
the funny thing about kingdom hearts is that Maleficent wasn't the only villain who saved sora's butt, Axel also saved his skin as well in fact if it wasn't for him marluxia would have mind controlled sora into trying to destroy the organization for his own selfish reasons and when you stop and think about it organization 13 pretty much destroyed itself with over half of its members going rouge and betraying them sora and riku just took advantage of the situation
Technically speaking, Axel was never really a villain. He just worked for a villainous group. You fight him a few times, but that's really it. You never kill him, he never gets in your way (at least through KHII) and he blows himself up. Then becomes a Keybladey Boi
@@AdiG1 "you never kill him" not for lack of trying sora was pretty brutal in chain of memory's though I guess I would be too if I found out these Dicks tried to brain wash me by forcing a cute girl to do it
Can we all take a second to acknowledge how DJ Octavio in splatoon 3 went from being framed as a the villain in the prologue to the sole reason you’re able to defeat mr grizz in the climax? After two games of conflict including zapfish kidnapping and mind control, having be an unlikely ally in the worlds time of need is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
I completely forgot about Emet-Selch changing his tone during ShadowBringers. Then again, the amount of fangirls who shipped their Viera toons with him made me want to forget him, just as everyone crying over Haurcherfant made me not care for him
Final Fantasy XV: Arden, when Noctis and his friends are nearly crushed by falling debris after defeating Titan, Arden, the main antagonist, shows up just in time to save them, even though he knows that Noctis, the Chosen King of Light, is the only one who would be able to stop him and save the world
I think Dimentio from Super Paper Mario should be on here. He's the entire reason that Peach and Luigi can find Mario and join your party and stop Count Bleck! Even if in Luigi's case his method is- uh- _morally questionable_
This video also had me thinking of Super Paper Mario, but embarrassingly? ....I.... FORGOT about Dimentio(like lol)! ...I was thinking about Bowser for mine. . . you know... Mario's ARCH nemesis ACTUALLY teaming up with Mario to save the day? AND I think Mario, Luigi and Peach would have actually lost without him to boot on account that he was actually revealed to be ONE of the FOUR legendary hero's mentioned in that prophecy, and all FOUR had to be present in order to stop the chaos heart. they literally COULDN'T do it without Bowser. of course... this is VERY ironic since it was involving him getting married to peach that was what created the fricking thing in the first place. . . oh well. .(lol). But yea... YOUR'S is really good too! dimentio was actually secretly helping you the WHOLE time in order to double cross count bleck... actually, you know what? this game had a LOT of crazy plot twists in it. one of the four hero's was actually a villain... and ANOTHER hero within the four BECAME a villain... then switched BACK into the hero... the MAIN VILLIAN WASN'T THE VILLIAN! ...it was one of his grunts... and said villain was secretly helping you only to get wallopped by the guy's he was secretly helping in the end. . .(on paper, this does sound stupid, but for anyone who hasn't played the game and is reading this, he had good reasons with an intricate plan for doing what he did. lol though). But in honesty? the plot device in this game was probably crazier than dragon ball z plot devices for crying out loud, lmao!
All that said, it's still a good game/story but I feel like the 4 prophesied heroes could be anyone else other than the Mario cast and it would still work. Only gripe with it. Like the love story between Bleck and (I forgot her name) could could happen without the 4 being there. That being said, it gave us badass Peach so I'll let it slide
Prosecutors in Ace Attorney games often save your case and client, which is basically the franchise’s equivalent of saving your butt. Edgeworth in 1-3 and Franziska in 2-4 immediately come to mind.
Not sure how much it counts, but a couple opposing Prosecutors in Ace Attorney help Phoenix. Most notable, Miles Edgeworth, who will help you cross examine people in certain cases, like against a child.
On a similar note, Professor Layton X Phoenix Wright, where the redheaded Inquisitor you've been pitted against in the trial portions actually just lets Phoenix and the gang make a getaway after breaking another character out for the sake of the truth.
Let's not forget Descole, for 3 games he has been a thorn in your side even going as far as sending robots, a childhood friend that was presumed dead (Randal), and multiple traps after you he still helps you save the world in The Azran Legacy
Dude was half mad and wrapped up in schemes and grand plans, all to defeat a bigger enemy than himself, and even turned Layton's entire life upside down with a revelation near the end, then once his deed was done, vanished without a trace. Life goals.
I'm very glad to see Professor Layton get a mention on here, and Lost Future which is my favourite game in the series. I should really replay it sometime
Devil May Cry, Vergil does it in 3, and again in 5. Admittedly the former is the 'so he can kill you himself vibe', but if the main menu screen after you beat the game in 5 is any indication, he may have turned over a new leaf thanks to Nero punching some sense into him.
Goro Akechi (technically) saves you twice in Persona 5! Once in the vanilla game he fights his cognitive self to let you escape, and in Royal he helps you recruit the phantom thieves and Kasumi to stand against the big bad. Good ol’ Akechi.
I am *such* a sucker for villains who come to your aid. I loved that moment in The Lost Future, and I hadn't even played any of the previous Professor Layton games. I kind of want to suggest Miles Edgeworth somewhat sabotaging his own case against Will Powers in the first Ace Attorney game, but whether that counts rather hinges on whether you consider Edgeworth a villain or not. (I personally consider him "in need of a cup of tea and a lie-down".)
@@dallydaydream Now I have the mental image of them trying to go to some nice, sunny beach and Phoenix trying desperately to get Miles to take off his cravat. 🤣 "You're in bathing suit already, so why are you still wearing that?!"
They left out on DMC 3? Vergil teaming up with Dante to defeat Arkham was one of the most iconic parts of the series. Along with the time Vergil stabbed Dante earlier in the game, and the time Vergil decided to fight Dante right after they finished teaming up to defeat Arkham.
Dante and Vergil are twins. As blood relations with different views, the two are bound to fight. But when it comes down to it, like facing a common enemy, the two will team up together temporarily.
I have an example of a villain who helped you. In Vampyr, the leader of the Guard of Priwen, Geoffrey McCullum, one of your greatest foes, comes to your aid near the end of the game by giving you a drop of King Arthur's Blood, one of the ingredients you need in order to create the Antidote that protects you against the Disaster's infection.
Geoffrey McCullum is my favorite NPC is Vampyr. I always choose the option to turn him at the end of his boss fight. I love the scene later where he's kicking a$$ as a vampire himself.
Are we not going to include Amanda from Tomb Raider: Underworld? She rescues Lara from her evil doppelganger then helps her escape from the Norse underworld!
Handsome Jack saves your behind multiple, multiple times during Borderlands 2. His company owns the New-U stations dotted across Pandora that respawns your behind when you kick the bucket. Guy could just shut them off, but he insists on keeping them on.
@@Isrialith ask Gearbox. they're the ones that said they're just a gameplay mechanic considering that Gearbox are the ones who developed it (and published by 2K Games)
@@JondarKorric The developers can say whatever they want, but if it doesn't actually fit the game they're talking about, I'll ignore it. In Borderlands 2 theres a quest where Jack will pay you to kill yourself, if you do then you respawn and he comments on it.
I had this idea for a different kind of episode, where you cover the best TEMPORARY zones in a RPG (i.e. places you cannot return to after you complete them, not including final zones if the game doesn't have a post-game)
Suggestion: tiny details in video games that are really clever if you look into them, like how the rollercoaster in Cyberpunk 2077 is based off of a real rollercoaster concept that's been talked about but has yet to be built: the RMC T-Rex
Like all the bosses who, every so often, stop attacking you with their normal attacks, and instead, ineffectually throw rocks at you, which smash open containing ammo and health restoring collectibles?
In Bendy and the ink machine chapter 4 bendy himself saves you by killing the projectionist. Clearly knowing you’re there as he takes the time to stare at your hiding place and laugh.
A commenter edition could add Meredith from Dragon Age 2. All game they're hyping Meredith as a megalomaniac zealot who is obviously preparing to take over the city. But she briefly turns out to be a pretty handy megalomaniac when a qunari mage is about to blow you up.
Even though you dunked on it in a video a while back, Ty the Tasmainian Tiger has parts in the series where both Sly and Fluffy save you. Also spoilers for Fire Emblem Engage since it's a more recent game but Veyle saves you early on, which is before you know who she is and also maybe doesn't entirely count, but even further on than that Zephia also helps save you, although she does it for semi-selfish reasons.
This may not entirely count, but in GTA V after Trevor and Michael have a falling out, Trevor comes back to save Michael and Franklin when they get ambushed by Merryweather, the IAA, and the FIB at the arts center
I have a couple other examples of a villain saving you, and both are rather similar cases: 1. In the first Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game, after resolving the issues that has been plaguing the world through frequent natural disasters, it seems it's all over for you, as your old enemy Gengar, who framed you as some sort of world-threat from the Ninetales Curse legend that did happen, though it wasn't you, attempts to wisk your barely conscious body to what I assume is the spirit world. But, he runs into an issue, he claims he took a wrong turn, but ends up saving your skin by returning you to where everyone else is. Which may be due to his human side showing, as, spoiler alert: Gengar was actually that terrible human from the Ninetales Legend. Reincarnated as a Pokemon. Furthermore, in the postgame, he actually aids you in saving Gardevoir from the Ninetales curse that was intended for Gengar when he was human, before Gardevoir used her body as a shield to take the brunt of the curse. Since both you and him wanted to save Gardevoir from the curse (as Gengar was Gardevoir's Trainer in his past life) he aids you in saving Gardevoir from the curse that plagued her so long, though she does not remember him after being saved. 2. In the Megaman Starforce games, ever since Starforce 2, the last survivor of the collapse of Mu, Solo (or Rogue, as that is his name when Wave-changed) has been a sort of guy who hates Geo (or Megaman when Wave Changed) for his attachment of bonds with others, something Solo despises, not wanting to have friendship or bonds with anything or anyone, as he sees such bonds being completely worthless. At the end of Starforce 2, as Mu starts to collapse apart, and Geo not having the energy to get up after saving everyone from their risk of losing their "Brotherbands" through the main antagonist of Starforce 2's actions, it seems Geo is done for at the ending of the game. But, who comes to his aid to save him from dying along with the revived Mu continent when nobody else can? Rogue, aka Solo, carried Megaman out of Mu to save him. When asked about why Solo saved him, Solo makes the excuse that Geo was in the way of his escape, so, he carried him out to "get him out of the way" when he could've just grabbed Geo and toss him off the edge with no care for how Geo and his friends would feel about losing him. Then in Starforce 3, Rogue again aids Megaman, but moreso fights together with him against something blocking the way for both of them, and he does this a few times throughout the story. fyi, as an additional note, Solo/Rogue is the exact opposite of everything Geo stands for. Geo cares about his bonds with others allot, while Solo/Rogue sees friendships as worthless and typically refuses to have any bonds with others. These two villains saving you, are rather similar huh? And in Starforce, having Solo aid Geo in battle against a common thing in their way, is kinda odd how many times he does so in Starforce 3. But it does make sense, since, when an enemy of yours has a common foe or obstruction between you two, and it would be too much for either of you alone, what better way to confront this problem than to team up with a temporary truce between you and your enemy? Someone who's been a pain to have you deal with previously. In the Sonic franchise, both Sonic and Eggman had teamed up with confronting a common foe many times throughout the franchise. Though Eggman aiding Sonic in Sonic Advance 3, is merely just allowing Super Sonic to use him as a projectile to expose the weakpoint of the real final boss
I always love the commentary on these videos here. It's what keeps me coming back. As for an example: in Black and White 2, if you've played as an evil god and are in the last level, your defeated former enemies will now join you, out of respect for your power, not out of love.
It is! It’s very brief, but it’s awesome. I gotta say, though, that Hades talking without a head for a bit before growing a new one is a bit off-putting.
"Floaty sleeves, horned head piece, evil cackle" seem like that describes everybodies favourite Tiefling....... Do we know where Prudence was when Sleeping Beauty was cursed?
@@AdiG1 Also Eggman in Advance 3, Lost World, Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood, and indirectly in Shadow the Hedgehog to name a few more examples off the top of my head.
1. There’s been a few moments in the Sonic series where Sonic and Eggman teamed up to fight a colossal threat, two of my favourites being Ultimate Gemerl from Advance 3 and The End from Frontiers. 2. (SPOILERS FOR PERSONA 4 ARENA ULTIMAX) Tohru Adachi saves the heroes two separate times, once in each of the main routes. In the P3 route he saves SEES from a massive hoard of shadows, and in the P4 route (as well as his own) he saves Narukami from Hi-No-Kagutsuchi and helps him land the killing blow.
O'Chunks From super paper Mario. One of count Bleck's Minions, he's probably the most loyal of them all, willing to do anything for him, even at the cost of his own life or free will. Bleck plans on wiping out all of existence after a horrible incident ( that I won't spoil because it's honestly one of the best stories in Mario), but this fact is unknown to O'Chunks. He used to be a war General, and was saved by Bleck after his army was wiped out due to a traitor in the ranks informing the enemy, following Bleck ever since. You fight him multiple times and fairly easily beat him each time, but the final time in Castle Bleck, after he loses yet again, the celling begins to collapse. Here O'Chunks has the chance to have Mario and his crew defeated right here and now, but catches the ceiling and holds it for Mario and crew to head on to Bleck and stop his plans. Bowser stays behind, possibly not wanting to be outshined, or perhaps wanting to repay O'Chunk's sacrifice. There's even more to this but again, major spoilers and If you don't at least play the game, watch the story via cutscenes. I honestly get a bit choked up at the end.
Spellforce the order of dawn is an odd one regarding this. At the start of the game you are a sort of slave and are given your freedom back by an old mage called Rohen. At the end of the game the baddy, aptly nicknamed "the Dark one" is trying to go back in time to his own time to finish what he started after getting what he needed from the future. In the end cutscene you see him going back in time and realizing that what he's trying to do is stupid. As he ages you find out that he's actually a younger version of Rohen who then spends his life trying to stop his younger version.
Kaos and Glumshanks (from Skylanders SuperChargers) are two of my favorite villains that should've been on this list. Glumshanks was willing to sacrifice his life to save the heroes, and Kaos was the one who ultimately saved all of Skylands in the end (so he could rule it someday).
Balder from Bayonetta 2 is a good contender here. He opposes you for most of the game, thinking you're protecting the one who killed his wife (and Bayonetta's mother). Late in the game, when it turns out that's not the case and you've beaten up the actual big bad of the game, Baldur does a summoning dance with Bayonetta, combining the arts of Umbra Witches and Lumen Sages to summon Omne, leading to a gigaton-level drop kick of the big bad.
I never rescue GLaDOS right away. I just stand there until she's really had enough of the bird before stepping close enough to scare it away. Her salt at Wheatley ruining the place is hilarious, as is his incompetence (he is the idiot core after all). Can't really think of specific examples, but I love it when enemies, mainly bosses, in FromSoftware games kill enemies for me. All that lovely dragon fire killing hollows for me. Curse-Rotted Greatwood smashing up its worshippers for me.
Daud saving Emily in Dishonored dlc, the Brigmore Witches, by sealing Delilah into one of her own paintings, only for Delilah come back some 10 years later and set of the sequel.
Dr cortex would be a good one for the list Whether you count his ineptitude causing crash and him to work together in twinsanity or his meddling in time that gives crash the bootstrap paradox of creating himself in crash4
I can't believe you didn't include Kreia from Knights of the Old Republic 2! She literally wakes you up at the start, sacrifices her hand for you during the tutorial, is your force mentor for most of the game, prevents you from having your force connection sealed off (again), but then turns out to be the final boss.
Which makes it the complete inverse of this video's topic. She's not a villain who saved your butt; she's an ally who secretly turned out to be a villain all along.
Sadly there is no option to join her in her quest to destroy the force. But at least you can learn from her. She rebuild the whole lore about the force, even when the game is not canon anymore.
Bass (aka Forte) makes his appearance in Megaman 7 as an enemy, but later on takes such a big heroic role that they literally make a game called Megaman and Bass.
These are games that Robotnik aided Sonic in some way shape or form. I might of missed one, tell me if I did. - Sonic 2 [8-bit] (In Underground Zone Act 3, he Saves Sonic from plunging into the Lava.) - Sonic Adventure 2 (Helps prevent the ARK crashing into Earth.) - Shadow the Hedgehog (Helps the Earth fend off Black Doom) - Sonic Chronicles (Aids the team to warp to the Twilight Cage & chase down Ix.) - Sonic Frontiers (Locates & retrieves the last Chaos Emerald Sonic needs to fight the final boss) - Sonic '06 (Uses the radar on his glasses to locate the Emeralds, that will be ultimately used to revive Sonic)
How about Zangetsu from Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night? Okay, not a pure antagonist because you still fight him twice, but you both have a shared enemy in this game. Zangetsu also comes up with a plan to help you try to rescue your friend and expose the actual villain of the game. He gives you his weapon, the only one capable of getting you through a boss battle without a game over, opening up the rest of the game and to the eventual final battle.
@@azuredragoon2054 I'm not denying he's an antagonist who helps you, but imo, him saving in that situation would be cutting the moon himself before you kill Gebel in combat, not just giving you means to fight the true boss.
@@denverarnold6210 You get a Game Over unless you strike the Red Moon with Zangetsuto during Gebel's fight. You can get two bad ends from this, one where you walk off and leave the rest of the job to the church and one where Gremory possesses you. In the latter case, it is indeed Zangetsu indirectly saving you. The reason Zangetsu doesn't do it himself is because he doesn't want Gremory fleeing, and he makes that clear by giving you his blade. Gremory fears Zangetsu while he holds Zangetsuto. And no matter what, Gebel dies. When you actually get further into the game, you fight Gremory herself (and she's not the final boss). But she's only there because Zangetsu let himself be used as bait to keep her from escaping so you can properly defeat her. This definitely warrants a degree of being saved/helped by Zangetsu because otherwise Gremory would likely kill you during the actual final boss battle. Even if he doesn't do it more directly, Zangetsu undoubtedly saves you by giving you the means to break Gremory's hold on Gebel and later kill her yourself.
@@azuredragoon2054 Yes, you get a game over if you kill Gebel, but you don't die. You're not in danger, and the consequences are vague. There is nothing I know of to be saved from. Getting the sword opens the true ending, but that is by your action, with the help of his sword. Still not saving you. I haven't beat it yet (just bought it on sale recently), but I'm presuming the priestess lady is the final boss. If so SHE has "saved/helped" us just as much by supporting us on the journey, also giving us something, the picture, which we could not progress without. Saving has to be an active act by someone to prevent harm or remove danger. Giving you a means to kill an enemy you have yet fought I don't see at all as saving. Help, yes. But the closest to being the main character I can recall being saved is in the backstory.
What about the Illusive Man. As the head of Cerberus he is your enemy in the first game and ends up as your enemy in the third game. But in Mass Effect 2 he literally has you resurrected from the dead. That is definitely saving your butt from death.
I’ve heard the theory that Alduin saves you because he can sense the dragonborn is at helgen but he doesn’t know exactly who the Dragonborn is so he just starts killing everyone hoping to get lucky
Immediately into my head with Kirk from ST2: You've managed to kill just about everyone else, but like a poor marksman you keep missing the target.
Maybe, but then when you run into him again at Kynesgrove he just leaves you for an underling to deal with. If he did want Dragonborn dead that badly he wouldn’t have done that, and if he never considered DB enough of a threat then he wouldn’t have at Helgen to the point he’d destroy it specifically to kill DB.
Pretty sure he just hopped out of the timestream pissed-off and headed to the nearest city to vent
@@ritenac6770 That is my belief as well. As for that being too convenient, I feel like it should be noted that the Doom-Driven (essentially the protagonists of the games) appear to bend probability wherever they appear (this is most obvious in the case of the Hero of Kvatch, the only protagonist of the "recent" games without inherent "fatepowers" of sorts, who defies the infallible predictions of Jyggalagg's chamberlain and becomes the new Madgod)
Maybe he sensed someone who could use the Voice and nothing more. So he was actually after Ulfric?
Alduin tries to _save_ you? Seemed to me that dragon was trying to eat your (and everyone else’s) arse. Why, exactly, would Alduin try and save the one being that could thwart their world devouring destiny? The fact you survived the encounter has less to do with Alduin trying to save you, and more to do with you being somewhat lucky and managing to sneak past the dragon to freedom. And, you can die to Alduin if you are in the wrong place at the right time. Ask me how I know.
Ah yes, Maleficent. My mother-in-law dressed up as her at my wedding.
Literally, it was a costume party.
that sounds like a great wedding though XD
That sounds fun
I'll say. Were there any other notable costumes there?
What did the rest of your guests come as? Was it Disney themed?
Sounds like an awesome wedding.
One could argue that, at the end of Portal 2, GLaDOS _does_ view you as a friend (or at least someone she respects)... which is why she lets you go. Oh, sure, she frames it as just kicking you out because you're more trouble than you're worth, because she's far too proud to admit otherwise, but if she "only want[ed] you gone," she would've just let the vacuum of the moon swallow you. You couldn't get much more gone than that! Instead, she saves you and lets you go, protecting you from herself when the testing compulsions kick in again and giving you exactly what you want.
I'm fairly certain that's true. You'd been through a lot together by then, including helping her learn about her origins as Carolyn, which I think also humanized her a bit since she suddenly realized she was human herself once, and not just another Aperture creation initially.
Maybe it's this plus the fact that should she be taken out of her body again, you're the one who can help her
No, she saves you because the human memories + emotions she recovered during your trek together made her attached to you as a friend, however, she them promptly deletes those emotions after saving you. Back to being an unfeeling robot, she kicks you out, because you're too much trouble to risk keeping around for revenge purposes.
@@tomm35 That's what she _thinks._ All the AIs in the complex are really just fragments of her own personality; the _Cara Mio Addio_ segment conveys her real subconscious feelings. And even then, she decides to send the Companion Cube after you.
@bewilderbeestie and it be one you put in the incinerator in Portal 1, too.
I believe Alduin was actually there to stop Jarl Ulfric from being executed, as a way to prolong the civil war in Skyrim. A prolonged civil war was to his benefit, as the more dead Nords in Sovngarde, the more power he gets by eating thier souls. Ulfric was *meant* to be the first executed, but the impatient Nord basically volunteers and throws the timing off, then the Captain choses you because she's annoyed. Alduin swoops in, thinking he's saving the leader of the rebels, but ends up saving you instead. Whoops.
i always just thought he was there because that guy prayed to the dragon god
I figure he was just having a rage fit for being thrown through time by a bunch of weak mortals, and just happened to land by helgen
lol that's an interesting idea, really makes the protag an even bigger wrench in everybody's plans
I disagree.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying that he literally just got teleported to the future. He was far in the past and immediately was sent to the future. He's smart enough to realize what happened and why things have suddenly changed, but he's not going to know the particulars, like the Nord Civil War and who's who in it. Like Serana didn't know anything when you rescued her.
I wouldn't call Edgeworth a villain, but he does fill the role of the 'antagonist' in the first couple cases of the game. In the third case of the first game, 'Turnabout Samurai', he saves your butt by having a change of heart and forces the killer to testify about what they did after finding the victim's body. Something you needed to win and couldn't do without that testimony. Turns out, in the end, he cannot in good conscious let the truth remain hidden.
In that case I never understood why the director (the neck beard weaboo nerdy guy) didn’t also get arrested for helping her move/hide the body. He goes on to make a show based on Maya. I guess Ace Attorney world doesn’t have accessory charges lol
In the original Resident Evil 3, the titular Nemesis saves Jill on two separate occasions. The first time he shoots some zombies that have her surrounded and the second time he kills the game's other antagonist Nikolai. The reason he does this is because he wants the honor of killing Jill for himself.
Nemesis really pulled up just to say no kill stealing and folds nikolai
He also shoots zombies that surround her in one possible path. When Umbrella designed him to accomplish his mission at any cost, I don't think they expected it to go horribly right, as in he can't just let her die, he has to be the one who does it.
It's kinda a common thing in Resi. So many human villains get offed my monsters before they can kill a hero.
Ah, love this. If only RE3 "Reimagining" wasn't too watered down...
Not sure about the original, but in the RE3 remake Nemesis can actually help you out during normal gameplay because he will kill zombies that get in his way. Unlike Mr. X in RE2 remake, who just pushes them aside.
For a second, I misread the title as "7 Villains who shaved your butt" and I was really confused.
I'd be really concerned to find there are 7+ games that had such villains
Great, you just spoiled the plot of the new Doom game
Same. But I was more disappointed than confused.
Well that would be a very interesting video!
If this list exists, please do this in a future episode
You know what they say you either die a villain or live long enough to be a hero
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Nice one! It wasn’t the comment we deserved, but it was the one we needed right now.
What if you live long enough to become a villain again?
@@LegendStormcrow Alduin is your answer.
To be fair to Alduin, I believe it is POSSIBLE for him to kill you in that opening sequence -- if you dither too much in getting away, he DOES finally figure out "oh HEY that prisoner over there is the Dragonborn" and roast you. But even then, he still saved you from the initial execution, and he only gets that chance to correct his mistake if the player basically allows him to. He probably gets made fun of a lot at villain parties.
He already gets made fun of by his dragon colleagues
"Hey everyone, Aldu-wiener go this ass handed to him even in Sovngarde, what a gigantic loser"
Ellen’s face at Luke’s “Goofy is a Dog?!” Is great.
Would be surprised she didn’t say anything to “Cause i thought he was a cow 🐄 “ 😂🤣😂🤣 Though it was a even more ridiculous joke statement
@@oxfanblink4115 lmfao I love a joke that gets carried through past its initial punchline.
He is a cow
Always weird to see people not knowing he’s a dog. He started out as dippy dog and he wears a half-bone hat
I mean he was kinda paired with Clarabell who IS a cow so I can understand the confusion. Pretty sure the 2 had like a picnic together in one of the the cartoons where they all triple date?
In A Hat in Time, for the final boss, all the (non-DLC) previous bosses and enemies (the Mafia and their boss, the Conductor, DJ Groove, the Snatcher, the Goats from Alpine Skyline, etc.) wind up helping Hat Kid defeat Mustache Girl. Hat Kid wants to defeat Mustache Girl for stealing her Time Pieces, and the villains want Mustache Girl to get lost because she’s imposing her brand of judgment on them, which they obviously aren’t a huge fan of.
I guess you could say that. But hat kid kind of made friends with them too through the game.
Wait really i didnt know she was evil
@@129das
The Conductor and DJ Grooves still fought you, very evilly.
The definition of "The enemy of my enemy is my ally"
Kid Icarus actually has 2 more moments like these. Firstly, Dark Pit, after fighting you first, indirectly helps you as he fights against Medusa for his own reasons and later directly helps you multiple times. At one point even together with the second character: Viridi. At first she fights you because she wants to spread Nature everywhere, then even replaces Palutena as your Godess while she is gone.
what I find interesting about uprising is that smash bro's actually continues it's story if you do the Palutena guidance with dark pit as your opponent you learn that after the events of uprising DP went over to Viridi's side as one of her general's and that her and Palutena are still at it over the fate of humanity
Hades also helps Pit, Palutena, and Viridi against the Auron. Heck, the only enemies who don’t wind up helping you at some point are the Auron, Pandora, and the Chaos Kin!
Hades himself also saves you at one point during the alien invasion and then immediately proceeds to attack you because lol.
Why did you spell directly with a k
@@aidantrautsch327 probably german. german word for directly is "direkt"
The Illusive Man in Mass Effect 2....he literally brings back shepard from being dead, or "meat and tubes" as Jacob describes it.
i was going to suggest this too. yes, he doesn't technically become a "bad guy" until the third game but cerberus as an evil organization has existed since the first game.
But is the Illusive man really a villain. More like just a bad guy your working for/with.
Well, after Overlord only the dumbest Shepard believes he's an ally. Plus Shep is more or less considered property by TIM, hence the ultimatum at the end of the game.
@@Tri-formis I'm now picturing someone asking The Illusive Man what his real name is and him responding with "There are some who call me... TIM?"
@@SomewhatSlightlyBored I know you're joking, but in case anyone cares, his real name is Jack Harper. His backstory is covered in one of the comics.
Unfortunately, being a cat, Panther shows his rose to almost everyone he meets
Dammit lol
Who could forget the finale of Metroid Fusion. You've spent the whole game running from the SA-X clone of Samus, and finally defeated her in a boss fight which she rudely runs away from before you can absorb her core...then you run into a fully grown Omega Metroid which promptly downs you in a couple of hits. Then the SA-X shows up, fails to defeat it, and concedes to letting Samus absorb her so she can fight it off with her Metroid destroying ice beam available again!
The dark lord from miitopia!
After you defeat him, he comes along with you to help defeat the darker lord. He isn't great in a fight but those extra hp bananas definitely helped!
He also guards new Lumos in the post game, so he tries to save your butt there, but you just walk on by him.
Here's a great one: Halo 3, The Gravemind in the mission The Covenant.
Yes, The Flood was trying to kill you constantly for the last 2.5 games, and will continue to do so for the rest of the game, but the Flood turned what could have been a horrendous slog into a breeze, all for the sake of not having every living thing in the galaxy get destroyed.
thats a good one it happens in Halo 2 not just 3.
@@129das No, it's in Halo 3, like I said, the mission The Covenant. It's the final mission where you fight any Covenant in the original trilogy since their leader dies. Top Tier Mission.
Yes, the Gravemind does also save Master Chief in Halo 2 for the same reason. The occurence in Halo 3 is more memorable though since you actually are helped by friendly flood monsters.
@@akaviri5 oh true, true. The Gravemind does teleport The Arbiter to the Tower so that he can stop Tartarus (however you spell his name) from activating the ring. Very true.
The fact that the Gravemind helps you only serves to make the flood more intimidating. He's an intelligent hive mind bent on infecting the entire universe. In Halo 2 he decides to play chessmaster and sticks Arbiter and Master Chief in the two locations best suited to stopping Delta Halo from firing. In Halo 3 he brings the infected High Charity to the ark and briefly sends a legion of flood to help Chief and the Arbiter stop the Ark from firing all the Halo rings only to immediately betray you the moment you've stopped them. He's consistently intelligent throughout the whole of both games and it makes him quite terrifying.
Portal is one of those franchises where seeing a clip makes me wanna play both games again
In Norway Goofy is called "Langbein/Longleg", a name also used for what english speaking people might recognise as a "daddy long legs" spider. Just to make it a bit more confusing...
my brain farted and then leaked out of my head
I know the “bein” and “bean” aren’t the same, but the idea of it being a “long bean”, being a small round bug with long legs tickles me.
I...deeply hate the implications of that.
Yeah but "Lange Bein/ Long legs" is also a saying for being clumsy, and that's where his Norwegian name comes from.
buuut, i also see your point.
And the character Goofy is based off of/started as WAS a Cow
Gilgamesh in Final Fantasy V @ the interdimensional rift during your battle with Necrophobe. Gilgamesh is a recurring frenemy in the game and an absolute charmer, he shows up during one of the final boss fights to help you (and bless you with his godlike theme song), also gives an adorable 'power of friendship' style pep talk to bartz & co before taking down Necrophobe. He then goes on to show up now and then in a bunch of other FF game entries via some interdimensional rift shenanigans, his memorable entrance in FF8 and his battle in FF12 being two of the highlights.
That was a badass moment.
13:09 “try giving birth to live young next time.” Delivered with an absolute strait face… I nearly choked to death laughing. 🤣
Luke, the master of not breaking into laughter. Was it one take? How in the Vegeta is it possible?!
Luke, you realize that Falco's a guy right?
@@divianreid7959 Supposedly, Yoshi is too.
As someone who only ever played Layton and Unwound Future, I was so confused by what was going on with Layton and Don Paolo. I was just happy for the help
No! You need go back and play the first 2 games! they're on mobile now.
I Have played them, and I still had no idea what was going on half the time, especially the Chinatown part (albeit it was aaaaages ago when I played it....)
@@pkmntrainerlilac4164 you should replay Unwound Future if only for the context that gets added to all of your interactions with Clive. Like if you click on the casino after it’s demolished he asks what kind of idiots would destroy their own casino… which is either a massive self burn, or his goons went a bit further than they were supposed to and desTROYED MY CASINO! IT WAS THE ONLY THING I BUILT TO DO IN THIS CITY AND THEY LEVELLED IT! DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH MONEY I SPENT ON THAT THING! IT WAS HOW I UNWOUND AND THOSE IDIOTS-
Ok you sold me on this. It's on mobile eh?
In the Trespasser DLC for Dragon Age Inquisition, Solas, who was your companion in the main game but is the main antagonist of the next one, saves your life from what is essentially a magical terminal illness. Granted he does it by chopping your arm off at the elbow but he also says it's because he still considers you a friend and part of him actually hopes you stop him.
He also saved us from a boss battle by stoning the viddasala so we could talk.
Seems like Bioware loves to do this. Meredith saves you in Kirkwall, Loghain offers to kill the Archdemon so you don't have to die doing it. Corypheus technically stop Solas ripping down the veil, which seems vaguely but definitely apocalyptic.
The Illusive Man has you brought back with the Lazarus Project, and it turns out that Darth Malak used to be your best buddy in KOTOR. Even the big snake from Banner Saga can sort of maybe stop the end of a little bit of the world at the end of the trilogy.
if you pay attention to the relevant cutscene, when Solas leaves, the Inquisitor's arm is STILL VERY MUCH ATTACHED. what he takes is the Anchor, which stops the "illness" from getting worse, but I assume the arm cannot be saved at that point. which is why it's chopped to the elbow in the next scene.
@@helenafarkas4534They are talking about the true ending in the Trespasser DLC. Some time after you beat Corypheus.
And in the end, Solas is also responsible for you getting the illness in the first place. It was he that gave Corypheus the artifact to damage the veil, which he created in the first place (the veil and the artifact both), and it was his machinations that make the illness worse.
@@alfredkugler3043 I know all that, that doesn't change that he takes what's killing you and leaves the arm behind. he physically doesn't cut off the arm to take the Anchor, he takes the magical "infection" and leaves the destroyed arm behind. he does NOT take the arm off, which is what the original comment implied
Ellen: I don't understand Kingdom Hearts, and I've played three games.
Me: Ah, well there's your problem...
Incluing Professor Layton on this list brought me an immense amount of joy.
"...like someone taking the last hash brown at the breakfast buffet."
Truly, the greatest villain of all.
Unless it's me. I'm allowed to do it.
The real mastermind is whoever didn't make enough hash browns, therefore pitting hash brown enjoyers against one another in a needless conflict.
But of course, you are the main character of your story and you need that last hash brown if you are going to succeed!😂😂
@@Joe90h Ah ha! the true villain revealed!😂😂
the funny thing about kingdom hearts is that Maleficent wasn't the only villain who saved sora's butt, Axel also saved his skin as well in fact if it wasn't for him marluxia would have mind controlled sora into trying to destroy the organization for his own selfish reasons and when you stop and think about it organization 13 pretty much destroyed itself with over half of its members going rouge and betraying them sora and riku just took advantage of the situation
Technically speaking, Axel was never really a villain. He just worked for a villainous group. You fight him a few times, but that's really it. You never kill him, he never gets in your way (at least through KHII) and he blows himself up. Then becomes a Keybladey Boi
@@AdiG1 "you never kill him" not for lack of trying sora was pretty brutal in chain of memory's though I guess I would be too if I found out these Dicks tried to brain wash me by forcing a cute girl to do it
The funny thing about kingdom hearts is how it just keeps adding more lore and never really explaining anything. And the ending of kh3 lol
@@AdiG1 right? Hell in chain of memories Axel even reveals he was undercover the whole time
@@lightyoshiman The cute girl's technically your daughter, dawg
Can we all take a second to acknowledge how DJ Octavio in splatoon 3 went from being framed as a the villain in the prologue to the sole reason you’re able to defeat mr grizz in the climax? After two games of conflict including zapfish kidnapping and mind control, having be an unlikely ally in the worlds time of need is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
i was just about to comment the same thing
Bro! Way to steal what I was gonna comment.
Emet-Selch in FFXIV Shadowbringers, showing up to help you defeat his fellow ascian Elidibus is my favorite villain saves you moment.
I immediately thought the same thing.
I completely forgot about Emet-Selch changing his tone during ShadowBringers. Then again, the amount of fangirls who shipped their Viera toons with him made me want to forget him, just as everyone crying over Haurcherfant made me not care for him
This or maybe Zenos Yae Galvus crossing the universe to give you a heads up start for the fight with the Endsinger
And then Elidibus helping you get to Elpis
Maleficent acting like tsundere killed me 😄
It's always a good day when somebody remembers Kid Icarus Uprising exists. Dumped so many hours into that game.
Final Fantasy XV: Arden, when Noctis and his friends are nearly crushed by falling debris after defeating Titan, Arden, the main antagonist, shows up just in time to save them, even though he knows that Noctis, the Chosen King of Light, is the only one who would be able to stop him and save the world
I think Dimentio from Super Paper Mario should be on here. He's the entire reason that Peach and Luigi can find Mario and join your party and stop Count Bleck! Even if in Luigi's case his method is- uh- _morally questionable_
I mean count bleck is trying to get rid of the entire universe
This video also had me thinking of Super Paper Mario, but embarrassingly? ....I.... FORGOT about Dimentio(like lol)! ...I was thinking about Bowser for mine. . . you know... Mario's ARCH nemesis ACTUALLY teaming up with Mario to save the day? AND I think Mario, Luigi and Peach would have actually lost without him to boot on account that he was actually revealed to be ONE of the FOUR legendary hero's mentioned in that prophecy, and all FOUR had to be present in order to stop the chaos heart. they literally COULDN'T do it without Bowser. of course... this is VERY ironic since it was involving him getting married to peach that was what created the fricking thing in the first place. . . oh well. .(lol).
But yea... YOUR'S is really good too! dimentio was actually secretly helping you the WHOLE time in order to double cross count bleck... actually, you know what? this game had a LOT of crazy plot twists in it. one of the four hero's was actually a villain... and ANOTHER hero within the four BECAME a villain... then switched BACK into the hero... the MAIN VILLIAN WASN'T THE VILLIAN! ...it was one of his grunts... and said villain was secretly helping you only to get wallopped by the guy's he was secretly helping in the end. . .(on paper, this does sound stupid, but for anyone who hasn't played the game and is reading this, he had good reasons with an intricate plan for doing what he did. lol though).
But in honesty? the plot device in this game was probably crazier than dragon ball z plot devices for crying out loud, lmao!
All that said, it's still a good game/story but I feel like the 4 prophesied heroes could be anyone else other than the Mario cast and it would still work. Only gripe with it. Like the love story between Bleck and (I forgot her name) could could happen without the 4 being there. That being said, it gave us badass Peach so I'll let it slide
I loved the cooperation between Layton and Don Paolo. One of the best moments in the whole series. 😄
Prosecutors in Ace Attorney games often save your case and client, which is basically the franchise’s equivalent of saving your butt. Edgeworth in 1-3 and Franziska in 2-4 immediately come to mind.
I don't know if in Franziska's case it makes up for all the whippings she gave Phoenix.
Not sure how much it counts, but a couple opposing Prosecutors in Ace Attorney help Phoenix. Most notable, Miles Edgeworth, who will help you cross examine people in certain cases, like against a child.
Miles also takes over a case for you in the third game while Phoenix is stuck in the hospital. So you get to play as Edgeworth for a bit!
Klavier Gavin practically holds Apollo's hand through the whole game
Though he isn't really the villain per se
On a similar note, Professor Layton X Phoenix Wright, where the redheaded Inquisitor you've been pitted against in the trial portions actually just lets Phoenix and the gang make a getaway after breaking another character out for the sake of the truth.
Got that clussy fever
I'm pretty sure Bowser has saved Mario and/or Luigi so many times, it could be its own list.
Yes! I was looking for this comment!
At this point Bowser is more considered a rival than a villain. Less about world domination, more about poking Mario with a stick.
Or in the case of Bowsette, being poked with a stick.
@@EntityXIII Wrong, but not wrong.🤣
Grey Fox/Ninja should definitely get a spot on this list for saving you from Metal Gear.
Let's not forget Descole, for 3 games he has been a thorn in your side even going as far as sending robots, a childhood friend that was presumed dead (Randal), and multiple traps after you he still helps you save the world in The Azran Legacy
Dude was half mad and wrapped up in schemes and grand plans, all to defeat a bigger enemy than himself, and even turned Layton's entire life upside down with a revelation near the end, then once his deed was done, vanished without a trace.
Life goals.
@@melodysymphonystar they should really put him into the commentors edition
I'm very glad to see Professor Layton get a mention on here, and Lost Future which is my favourite game in the series. I should really replay it sometime
Devil May Cry, Vergil does it in 3, and again in 5. Admittedly the former is the 'so he can kill you himself vibe', but if the main menu screen after you beat the game in 5 is any indication, he may have turned over a new leaf thanks to Nero punching some sense into him.
Goro Akechi (technically) saves you twice in Persona 5! Once in the vanilla game he fights his cognitive self to let you escape, and in Royal he helps you recruit the phantom thieves and Kasumi to stand against the big bad. Good ol’ Akechi.
This one took me by surprise, ngl
I am *such* a sucker for villains who come to your aid. I loved that moment in The Lost Future, and I hadn't even played any of the previous Professor Layton games. I kind of want to suggest Miles Edgeworth somewhat sabotaging his own case against Will Powers in the first Ace Attorney game, but whether that counts rather hinges on whether you consider Edgeworth a villain or not. (I personally consider him "in need of a cup of tea and a lie-down".)
A cup of tea, a lie down and a nice romantic holiday with Phoenix. I will go down with this ship! ❤️
@@madalice5134 I won't lie, those two disasters are my OTP
@@dallydaydream Now I have the mental image of them trying to go to some nice, sunny beach and Phoenix trying desperately to get Miles to take off his cravat. 🤣 "You're in bathing suit already, so why are you still wearing that?!"
They left out on DMC 3? Vergil teaming up with Dante to defeat Arkham was one of the most iconic parts of the series. Along with the time Vergil stabbed Dante earlier in the game, and the time Vergil decided to fight Dante right after they finished teaming up to defeat Arkham.
Dante and Vergil are twins. As blood relations with different views, the two are bound to fight. But when it comes down to it, like facing a common enemy, the two will team up together temporarily.
Loved that Kingdom Hearts clip, perfectly encapsulates the franchise. :D
I have an example of a villain who helped you. In Vampyr, the leader of the Guard of Priwen, Geoffrey McCullum, one of your greatest foes, comes to your aid near the end of the game by giving you a drop of King Arthur's Blood, one of the ingredients you need in order to create the Antidote that protects you against the Disaster's infection.
Geoffrey McCullum is my favorite NPC is Vampyr. I always choose the option to turn him at the end of his boss fight. I love the scene later where he's kicking a$$ as a vampire himself.
Luke's "Try giving birth to live young next time, Falco." I didn't know I needed to hear this but it made my morning lol
I’m sure fox is a guy so he can’t even give birth to anything lol
@@CesarACastillo 🤣 Good point but I think he missed that in his rage lol
Are we not going to include Amanda from Tomb Raider: Underworld? She rescues Lara from her evil doppelganger then helps her escape from the Norse underworld!
Do you count Villains who later join your party? Magus in Chrono Trigger has some pretty clutch savior moments.
Okay, but can we talk about how kick-ass the version of Star Wolf's theme in Star Fox: Assault is? It's a total banger.
Finally, some Don Paolo respect!!! My boy has been maligned too long
3:14 "Wibbly wobbly nightmare creatures" love Ellens name for Nobodies
Handsome Jack saves your behind multiple, multiple times during Borderlands 2. His company owns the New-U stations dotted across Pandora that respawns your behind when you kick the bucket.
Guy could just shut them off, but he insists on keeping them on.
the New-U stations were confirmed non-canon and only there as a game mechanic
@@JondarKorric How can they be non-canon where theres literally a quest where Jack mentions them reviving you?
@@Isrialith ask Gearbox. they're the ones that said they're just a gameplay mechanic considering that Gearbox are the ones who developed it (and published by 2K Games)
@@JondarKorric The developers can say whatever they want, but if it doesn't actually fit the game they're talking about, I'll ignore it. In Borderlands 2 theres a quest where Jack will pay you to kill yourself, if you do then you respawn and he comments on it.
@@Isrialith That quest is probably non-canon as well.
I had this idea for a different kind of episode, where you cover the best TEMPORARY zones in a RPG
(i.e. places you cannot return to after you complete them, not including final zones if the game doesn't have a post-game)
Sephiroth saved Zack's butt before going full villain. That was a thing.
Suggestion: tiny details in video games that are really clever if you look into them, like how the rollercoaster in Cyberpunk 2077 is based off of a real rollercoaster concept that's been talked about but has yet to be built: the RMC T-Rex
Like all the bosses who, every so often, stop attacking you with their normal attacks, and instead, ineffectually throw rocks at you, which smash open containing ammo and health restoring collectibles?
Or the bosses that rebuild the arena to set up ambush points for you to kill them from for short periods of time.
In Bendy and the ink machine chapter 4 bendy himself saves you by killing the projectionist. Clearly knowing you’re there as he takes the time to stare at your hiding place and laugh.
A commenter edition could add Meredith from Dragon Age 2. All game they're hyping Meredith as a megalomaniac zealot who is obviously preparing to take over the city. But she briefly turns out to be a pretty handy megalomaniac when a qunari mage is about to blow you up.
4:52 Dingo is actually a double-entendre in French, referring to the dog species and the French word masculinized adjective describing a crazy person
Video suggestion: each of the cast talks of their favorite jackbox games and memories :)
The dynamik with wolf is one of my favorite things to remember about the ... well, mess that it ended up to be.
Even though you dunked on it in a video a while back, Ty the Tasmainian Tiger has parts in the series where both Sly and Fluffy save you.
Also spoilers for Fire Emblem Engage since it's a more recent game but
Veyle saves you early on, which is before you know who she is and also maybe doesn't entirely count, but even further on than that Zephia also helps save you, although she does it for semi-selfish reasons.
Yes thank you for bringing up Fire Emblem Engage. Also would Hortensia and her retainers count?
Maleficent: Saves you three times in Kingdom Hearts 2 and then buggers off without anything plot-relevant to do for the entire next game.
This may not entirely count, but in GTA V after Trevor and Michael have a falling out, Trevor comes back to save Michael and Franklin when they get ambushed by Merryweather, the IAA, and the FIB at the arts center
Trevor is a good friend yo. Crazy and unhinged AF, but loyal
Handsome Jack just revives you everytime.
I have a couple other examples of a villain saving you, and both are rather similar cases: 1. In the first Pokemon Mystery Dungeon game, after resolving the issues that has been plaguing the world through frequent natural disasters, it seems it's all over for you, as your old enemy Gengar, who framed you as some sort of world-threat from the Ninetales Curse legend that did happen, though it wasn't you, attempts to wisk your barely conscious body to what I assume is the spirit world. But, he runs into an issue, he claims he took a wrong turn, but ends up saving your skin by returning you to where everyone else is. Which may be due to his human side showing, as, spoiler alert: Gengar was actually that terrible human from the Ninetales Legend. Reincarnated as a Pokemon. Furthermore, in the postgame, he actually aids you in saving Gardevoir from the Ninetales curse that was intended for Gengar when he was human, before Gardevoir used her body as a shield to take the brunt of the curse. Since both you and him wanted to save Gardevoir from the curse (as Gengar was Gardevoir's Trainer in his past life) he aids you in saving Gardevoir from the curse that plagued her so long, though she does not remember him after being saved.
2. In the Megaman Starforce games, ever since Starforce 2, the last survivor of the collapse of Mu, Solo (or Rogue, as that is his name when Wave-changed) has been a sort of guy who hates Geo (or Megaman when Wave Changed) for his attachment of bonds with others, something Solo despises, not wanting to have friendship or bonds with anything or anyone, as he sees such bonds being completely worthless. At the end of Starforce 2, as Mu starts to collapse apart, and Geo not having the energy to get up after saving everyone from their risk of losing their "Brotherbands" through the main antagonist of Starforce 2's actions, it seems Geo is done for at the ending of the game. But, who comes to his aid to save him from dying along with the revived Mu continent when nobody else can? Rogue, aka Solo, carried Megaman out of Mu to save him. When asked about why Solo saved him, Solo makes the excuse that Geo was in the way of his escape, so, he carried him out to "get him out of the way" when he could've just grabbed Geo and toss him off the edge with no care for how Geo and his friends would feel about losing him. Then in Starforce 3, Rogue again aids Megaman, but moreso fights together with him against something blocking the way for both of them, and he does this a few times throughout the story. fyi, as an additional note, Solo/Rogue is the exact opposite of everything Geo stands for. Geo cares about his bonds with others allot, while Solo/Rogue sees friendships as worthless and typically refuses to have any bonds with others.
These two villains saving you, are rather similar huh? And in Starforce, having Solo aid Geo in battle against a common thing in their way, is kinda odd how many times he does so in Starforce 3. But it does make sense, since, when an enemy of yours has a common foe or obstruction between you two, and it would be too much for either of you alone, what better way to confront this problem than to team up with a temporary truce between you and your enemy? Someone who's been a pain to have you deal with previously. In the Sonic franchise, both Sonic and Eggman had teamed up with confronting a common foe many times throughout the franchise. Though Eggman aiding Sonic in Sonic Advance 3, is merely just allowing Super Sonic to use him as a projectile to expose the weakpoint of the real final boss
I always love the commentary on these videos here. It's what keeps me coming back.
As for an example: in Black and White 2, if you've played as an evil god and are in the last level, your defeated former enemies will now join you, out of respect for your power, not out of love.
Whoa, I've never seen that Medusa vs Hades fight before. it looks epic
It is! It’s very brief, but it’s awesome. I gotta say, though, that Hades talking without a head for a bit before growing a new one is a bit off-putting.
Word of warning, the 3DS eShop will be shutting down in the near future. Get the game while you can. It's worth all the wrist cramps it gives you.
"Someone please stop me, we'll be-"
UA-cam: I got you Ellen! ~plays an add~
Bowser in SMRPG (and in multiple spin offs) is a great example of this.
"Floaty sleeves, horned head piece, evil cackle" seem like that describes everybodies favourite Tiefling....... Do we know where Prudence was when Sleeping Beauty was cursed?
Ellen: [describes Maleficent]
Me: Prudence?
Always glad to see Star Fox Assault getting the love it deserves!
Now the Opposite: 7 Times You Saved The Villain's Butt
I think that already a list.
In Persona 5 Akechi actually saves your life in the original iteration by sacrificing himself and then tries it a second time during Royal
Please do a Commenter Edition of this list. The comments are a treasure trove of other great examples of this theme. This community is awesome.
3:06 Kingdom hearts is heaven, heartless are souls without bodies, nobodies are bodies without souls.
I feel like Sage from Sonic Frontiers should be on this list.
Or Eggman in Sonic Adventure 2: Battle. When he realises he fucked up with the Ark and the Emeralds, he works with everyone to set it right
@@AdiG1 Also Eggman in Advance 3, Lost World, Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood, and indirectly in Shadow the Hedgehog to name a few more examples off the top of my head.
1. There’s been a few moments in the Sonic series where Sonic and Eggman teamed up to fight a colossal threat, two of my favourites being Ultimate Gemerl from Advance 3 and The End from Frontiers.
2. (SPOILERS FOR PERSONA 4 ARENA ULTIMAX)
Tohru Adachi saves the heroes two separate times, once in each of the main routes. In the P3 route he saves SEES from a massive hoard of shadows, and in the P4 route (as well as his own) he saves Narukami from Hi-No-Kagutsuchi and helps him land the killing blow.
i cheered when i saw portal 2...
and i SCREAMED when i saw professor layton
god its such a good series
the rest... i havent played lol
Distracted by the oddly realistic faces smooshed onto the polygons of the characters of Perfect Dark
You don't know how happy I was that professor layton was finally mentioned.
I could spend all day explaining Kingdom Hearts and it still wouldn't make any sense is such a mood.
O'Chunks From super paper Mario.
One of count Bleck's Minions, he's probably the most loyal of them all, willing to do anything for him, even at the cost of his own life or free will.
Bleck plans on wiping out all of existence after a horrible incident ( that I won't spoil because it's honestly one of the best stories in Mario), but this fact is unknown to O'Chunks. He used to be a war General, and was saved by Bleck after his army was wiped out due to a traitor in the ranks informing the enemy, following Bleck ever since.
You fight him multiple times and fairly easily beat him each time, but the final time in Castle Bleck, after he loses yet again, the celling begins to collapse.
Here O'Chunks has the chance to have Mario and his crew defeated right here and now, but catches the ceiling and holds it for Mario and crew to head on to Bleck and stop his plans. Bowser stays behind, possibly not wanting to be outshined, or perhaps wanting to repay O'Chunk's sacrifice.
There's even more to this but again, major spoilers and If you don't at least play the game, watch the story via cutscenes.
I honestly get a bit choked up at the end.
Spellforce the order of dawn is an odd one regarding this. At the start of the game you are a sort of slave and are given your freedom back by an old mage called Rohen. At the end of the game the baddy, aptly nicknamed "the Dark one" is trying to go back in time to his own time to finish what he started after getting what he needed from the future. In the end cutscene you see him going back in time and realizing that what he's trying to do is stupid. As he ages you find out that he's actually a younger version of Rohen who then spends his life trying to stop his younger version.
Kaos and Glumshanks (from Skylanders SuperChargers) are two of my favorite villains that should've been on this list. Glumshanks was willing to sacrifice his life to save the heroes, and Kaos was the one who ultimately saved all of Skylands in the end (so he could rule it someday).
The Professor Layton series doesn’t get enough love. So glad to see it mentioned here.
Balder from Bayonetta 2 is a good contender here. He opposes you for most of the game, thinking you're protecting the one who killed his wife (and Bayonetta's mother). Late in the game, when it turns out that's not the case and you've beaten up the actual big bad of the game, Baldur does a summoning dance with Bayonetta, combining the arts of Umbra Witches and Lumen Sages to summon Omne, leading to a gigaton-level drop kick of the big bad.
Timey-Wimey-Wibbly-Wobbly in full effect
I never rescue GLaDOS right away. I just stand there until she's really had enough of the bird before stepping close enough to scare it away. Her salt at Wheatley ruining the place is hilarious, as is his incompetence (he is the idiot core after all).
Can't really think of specific examples, but I love it when enemies, mainly bosses, in FromSoftware games kill enemies for me. All that lovely dragon fire killing hollows for me. Curse-Rotted Greatwood smashing up its worshippers for me.
Daud saving Emily in Dishonored dlc, the Brigmore Witches, by sealing Delilah into one of her own paintings, only for Delilah come back some 10 years later and set of the sequel.
Dr cortex would be a good one for the list
Whether you count his ineptitude causing crash and him to work together in twinsanity or his meddling in time that gives crash the bootstrap paradox of creating himself in crash4
I can't believe you didn't include Kreia from Knights of the Old Republic 2!
She literally wakes you up at the start, sacrifices her hand for you during the tutorial, is your force mentor for most of the game, prevents you from having your force connection sealed off (again), but then turns out to be the final boss.
Which makes it the complete inverse of this video's topic. She's not a villain who saved your butt; she's an ally who secretly turned out to be a villain all along.
Sadly there is no option to join her in her quest to destroy the force.
But at least you can learn from her.
She rebuild the whole lore about the force, even when the game is not canon anymore.
Bass (aka Forte) makes his appearance in Megaman 7 as an enemy, but later on takes such a big heroic role that they literally make a game called Megaman and Bass.
To mind come a couple times when Eggman helped Sonic. Now that I think of it, there may be material for a whole video just on that
These are games that Robotnik aided Sonic in some way shape or form. I might of missed one, tell me if I did.
- Sonic 2 [8-bit] (In Underground Zone Act 3, he Saves Sonic from plunging into the Lava.)
- Sonic Adventure 2 (Helps prevent the ARK crashing into Earth.)
- Shadow the Hedgehog (Helps the Earth fend off Black Doom)
- Sonic Chronicles (Aids the team to warp to the Twilight Cage & chase down Ix.)
- Sonic Frontiers (Locates & retrieves the last Chaos Emerald Sonic needs to fight the final boss)
- Sonic '06 (Uses the radar on his glasses to locate the Emeralds, that will be ultimately used to revive Sonic)
@@SombreAria I think in lost world he also helps at one point? He has his whole heel-face-revolving-door moments in that one, though 🤔
Perfect Dark was such a great game - always happy to see it included in a game lol
Seriously…for being such a masterpiece (in its time), not nearly enough people played that game
How about Zangetsu from Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night?
Okay, not a pure antagonist because you still fight him twice, but you both have a shared enemy in this game. Zangetsu also comes up with a plan to help you try to rescue your friend and expose the actual villain of the game. He gives you his weapon, the only one capable of getting you through a boss battle without a game over, opening up the rest of the game and to the eventual final battle.
He aided you, but he didn't "save" you. Saved Gebel, if anyone.
@@denverarnold6210 There's a reason you get an automatic game over after Gebel's fight unless you use Zangetsu's weapon to end it.
@@azuredragoon2054 I'm not denying he's an antagonist who helps you, but imo, him saving in that situation would be cutting the moon himself before you kill Gebel in combat, not just giving you means to fight the true boss.
@@denverarnold6210 You get a Game Over unless you strike the Red Moon with Zangetsuto during Gebel's fight. You can get two bad ends from this, one where you walk off and leave the rest of the job to the church and one where Gremory possesses you. In the latter case, it is indeed Zangetsu indirectly saving you. The reason Zangetsu doesn't do it himself is because he doesn't want Gremory fleeing, and he makes that clear by giving you his blade. Gremory fears Zangetsu while he holds Zangetsuto.
And no matter what, Gebel dies. When you actually get further into the game, you fight Gremory herself (and she's not the final boss). But she's only there because Zangetsu let himself be used as bait to keep her from escaping so you can properly defeat her. This definitely warrants a degree of being saved/helped by Zangetsu because otherwise Gremory would likely kill you during the actual final boss battle.
Even if he doesn't do it more directly, Zangetsu undoubtedly saves you by giving you the means to break Gremory's hold on Gebel and later kill her yourself.
@@azuredragoon2054 Yes, you get a game over if you kill Gebel, but you don't die. You're not in danger, and the consequences are vague. There is nothing I know of to be saved from.
Getting the sword opens the true ending, but that is by your action, with the help of his sword. Still not saving you.
I haven't beat it yet (just bought it on sale recently), but I'm presuming the priestess lady is the final boss. If so SHE has "saved/helped" us just as much by supporting us on the journey, also giving us something, the picture, which we could not progress without.
Saving has to be an active act by someone to prevent harm or remove danger. Giving you a means to kill an enemy you have yet fought I don't see at all as saving. Help, yes. But the closest to being the main character I can recall being saved is in the backstory.
I am so glad to see a Professor Layton game featured in one of those videos !
What about the Illusive Man. As the head of Cerberus he is your enemy in the first game and ends up as your enemy in the third game. But in Mass Effect 2 he literally has you resurrected from the dead. That is definitely saving your butt from death.
Does that even count since you are technically dead?
Nobody taking about King Dedede? That penguin practically has his own redemption arc!
Dedede was only truly a villain like once and in the remakes of that story
@@KaitouKaiju Still counts. Especially if you include the anime version