Professor N.T. Wright gives the third lecture of our Summer School 2016. The teaching theme for the week was The Victory of the Cross. (Lecture 3 of 10)
Just realized We're guilty of platonizing the gospel. The overlapping new way of living in evil present evil age resonates Jesus High Preistly Prayer "They are in the world but not of this world." Having my coffee while listening to this. Great stuff! Thanks Dr. RIGHT. GOD BLESS
He emphasizes the Last Supper. It reminds me that at after Priam sees Hector's body and weeps, Achilles recommends that they have a meal, just as a mother did in a story after the death of a child.
This is truly some challenging and good stuff. however i wish he did not caricature the popular way of the cross as a means to have forgiveness and enter into eternal life in heaven. I think its great to see how the cross fits and ushers in the new creation . However, there is also that theme of God's coming judgment upon sin at the resurrection which it deals with but with the aim of bringing us to share in the new heavens and earth. So I don't think we should posit that its platonic or pagan to speak on the cross as the means of deliverance from the wrath of God to come. Its a part of the whole story and the fact that we have only focused on parts of It at the expense of the bigger framework should not be chided but gently corrected and upgraded and not put into terms that make it look like we have departed from the gospel.
Fully agree - and i think we have made that emphasis in our understanding because the NT seems to easily emphasize the cross and its personal implications for believers. This teaching needs to be entrenched as a matter of priority
Nearly right Tom. Jesus' death on the cross was a moment his blood was shed, and yet we are still in our sins, but when he is raised the sins do not go away. All this means is that sins were not removed on the cross, but are removed in his judgement after our justification as Rome s 4:25.
We humans all start off in Adam, but we can be translated into The Eternal Life of Jesus Christ The Last Adam. Jesus’ death & Resurrection are The Only Way God The Father has given for sinners to avoid judgment because of our iniquity and rebellion. The New Covenant is putting your Faith in Him Alone, because you have believed God has done it ✝️🕊♥️
@@P.H.888 The believer seeks justification of inherent righteousness in the new covenant. Jesus died for our Justification in the new covenant. Only by sanctification can we be justified as doers of righteousness. Faith is the evidence of good works to prove our belief. We must believe in God, righteousness and Jesus as judge.
Job 38 God speaks out of the whirlwind Through the eye wall of the storm He finds himself in thunders home A swirling tempest all around He flys aloft above the ground The darkness swells on rolling clouds A piercing light from trumpets loud A grasp of breath a silent cry He stands within the Mighty eye A still and peaceful crowns abode He utters forth a Royal poem Assured of life with peace within He rides the eyewall of the wind And landing safely on the earth He tells the story of rebirth Of life again from deaths abode He spreads the truth along the road A life that's lost can rise again Inside the eye wall of the wind
This makes it more clear to me how the Jesus of gospel of John would have been insulting to jewish temple belief. God leaves the temple to become Jesus. And, of course, the romans destroy it.
Always find Wright's lectures brilliant but unneccesarily difficult to follow. He doesn't structure his lecures with headings or main points, just goes and goes for about an hour. Very thought provoking though.
Wow wow wow awesome. Unbelievable God bless this servant
Funny to hear someone teaching what I do. Freewill and choice are our biggest blessing. Give honor to them and thus honor God.
We are God's poetry - a verse to remember.
Very clear and brilliant speaker
Just realized We're guilty of platonizing the gospel. The overlapping new way of living in evil present evil age resonates Jesus High Preistly Prayer "They are in the world but not of this world." Having my coffee while listening to this. Great stuff! Thanks Dr. RIGHT. GOD BLESS
Superb! Fascinating!
He emphasizes the Last Supper. It reminds me that at after Priam sees Hector's body and weeps, Achilles recommends that they have a meal, just as a mother did in a story after the death of a child.
This is truly some challenging and good stuff. however i wish he did not caricature the popular way of the cross as a means to have forgiveness and enter into eternal life in heaven. I think its great to see how the cross fits and ushers in the new creation . However, there is also that theme of God's coming judgment upon sin at the resurrection which it deals with but with the aim of bringing us to share in the new heavens and earth. So I don't think we should posit that its platonic or pagan to speak on the cross as the means of deliverance from the wrath of God to come. Its a part of the whole story and the fact that we have only focused on parts of It at the expense of the bigger framework should not be chided but gently corrected and upgraded and not put into terms that make it look like we have departed from the gospel.
Thanks for your thoughtful point. I agree.
Fully agree - and i think we have made that emphasis in our understanding because the NT seems to easily emphasize the cross and its personal implications for believers. This teaching needs to be entrenched as a matter of priority
Nearly right Tom. Jesus' death on the cross was a moment his blood was shed, and yet we are still in our sins, but when he is raised the sins do not go away. All this means is that sins were not removed on the cross, but are removed in his judgement after our justification as Rome s 4:25.
We humans all start off in Adam, but we can be translated into The Eternal Life of Jesus Christ The Last Adam.
Jesus’ death & Resurrection are The Only Way God The Father has given for sinners to avoid judgment because of our iniquity and rebellion.
The New Covenant is putting your Faith in Him Alone, because you have believed God has done it ✝️🕊♥️
@@P.H.888 The believer seeks justification of inherent righteousness in the new covenant.
Jesus died for our Justification in the new covenant. Only by sanctification can we be justified as doers of righteousness.
Faith is the evidence of good works to prove our belief. We must believe in God, righteousness and Jesus as judge.
Job 38 God speaks out of the whirlwind
Through the eye wall of the storm
He finds himself in thunders home
A swirling tempest all around
He flys aloft above the ground
The darkness swells on rolling clouds
A piercing light from trumpets loud
A grasp of breath a silent cry
He stands within the Mighty eye
A still and peaceful crowns abode
He utters forth a Royal poem
Assured of life with peace within
He rides the eyewall of the wind
And landing safely on the earth
He tells the story of rebirth
Of life again from deaths abode
He spreads the truth along the road
A life that's lost can rise again
Inside the eye wall of the wind
Where is the first part of this?!
Elsewhere on the Wycliffe Hall channel.
First is God
It is a great Mystery.
We are three dimensional beings trying so hard to understand what passes understanding.
תיקון עולם שלם
This makes it more clear to me how the Jesus of gospel of John would have been insulting to jewish temple belief. God leaves the temple to become Jesus. And, of course, the romans destroy it.
Always find Wright's lectures brilliant but unneccesarily difficult to follow. He doesn't structure his lecures with headings or main points, just goes and goes for about an hour. Very thought provoking though.
It is a perfectly structure but to much info per point
@@Bbrits1and NSoper, He speaks in college professor style! It takes a while to become accustomed to his thought process and rapid delivery.