Code Geass Episodes 15 & 16 Reaction & Discussion!
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- In this episode we react to and discuss episodes 15 & 16 of Code Geass...
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0:00 Intro
2:17 Episode 15 Reaction
16:23 Episode 15 Discussion
29:23 Episode 16 Reaction
43:49 Episode 16 Discussion
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“She knows” yup, she’s a part of the Ashford Family/ Ashford Academy that has been sheltering Lulu & Nana
To answer your question about the mascot: In the sub, she's ordering from Pizza Hut. That's PHs japanese mascot. He wears the fedora because it's shaped like the Pizza Hut logo.
Oh damn that's cool!
@oneplus she was collecting points from pizza (you could notice this before) and exchanged them for the mascot.
Suzaku doesn’t think him killing his dad was justified, he literally fell to the ground screaming when he was reminded. He judges everyone who plays outside the system because he did that and killed his farther, a mistake he’s regretted ever since. He’s not right but it’s understandable
Yep, he can't forgive himself for it so he can't forgive anyone else for breaking the rules either.
It's also why he carelessly puts his life on the line. He wants to die for killing his father, but he wants his death to have meaning.
I mean, Suzaku IS a super soldier. All knightmare frame pilots are implied to be the best of the best of the best soldiers and he himself is the perfect pilot for an experimental, dangerous unit that gives the pilot almost free use of the mech.
It's still incredibly goofy, but yes, soldiers in this mecha anime are still metal gear levels of superhuman.
Yep. Would've been good if they showed the extent of his ability outside of the mech a bit more before this though. To make it less jarring lol.
@@Vidilian yeah, I think sunrise and the writers expect you to be familiar with Gundam because most pilots are super soldiers also, Code Geass is a sort of deconstruction of the Mecha genre after all.
Like the Code Ment abridged series said about suzaku "You're fucking moral compass is a roulette wheel!"
Abilities like Mao's sound like a blessing at first and the creative part of writing them is to show how that 'blessing' is more of a curse.
Nobody can hide the truth from you. You become drowned in a sea of the truth just for trying to live a normal life out of solitude.
What C2 did to Mao was diabolical. It's just easy to miss that part since they don't spend a lot of time on her own responsibility of the matter.
(by they I mean the show. The show kinda makes the mentions of this really brief)
No spoilers, if you know you know, but this blessing and curse dichotomy is extremely important for the Geass and there's an event to explicitly show this
Well she didn’t chose his geass so I wouldn’t say her role was “diabolical” other than knowing how badly it could go in general
The show spends a lot of time showing how main characters like Lelouch, Suzaku, CC all have their bad side making borderline evil decisions but people ignore it.
@@LoyaltL they are the evils required by the world for good people to live decent lives the show is an explict commentary that sometimes good ends require you to do the wrong thing yet it does not ever say that the ends ever justify the means
I'm also not a fan of how Lulu wiped Shirley's memory, but in his defense I can say... this behavior is absolutely normal for girls that age. And I say this as a person who took care of a group of 25 girls aged 12-18. They regularly had dramas, most often of a love nature, leading to one girl ignoring the other's existence. Or even teams were formed that ignored each other.
He could have at least divulged his identity as a member of the royal family to her, on the off chance she would understand his actions because of it. Geass should have been the last resort.
@@meursaulty6672you're missing the point. He was panicking, he was running out of time, so _IN THE MOMENT_ -and I cannot stress that enough - in the moment, he just makes a decision, and it happened to be a very poor one. And the terrible thing with his Geass is that once you use it, you can't take it back.
@frenchynoob TF you mean panicking and running out of time? They were alone, in a train station, with chill music playing and Lelouch speaking completely calmly. He could have easily tried something else FIRST before using Geass.
@@meursaulty6672 "speaking completely calmly"?!?!?!?! What fucking show were YOU watching?! It's a fucked up situation, they're in a VERY public place, lotta cops AND soldiers in the area, shots were just fired, for all he knows Mao is making his way back to them gun in hand cuz HE doesnt know what Mao's deal is yet, and NEVER FUCKING MIND the fact that he's been fucked emotionally by guilt over Shirley's dad, being bonked on the head like a day ago from getting knightmare-gangbanged by Suzaku, and just being overall borderline socially autistic, as we see all the time before AND after this... you think you'd make a smart decision in those shoes? You're fucking kidding yourself.
@@meursaulty6672dunno where my comment went, Im not retyping all that shit. Point is, you're severely underestimating how irrational people can be under pressure.
loving the content and i hope you continue to enjoy the show all the way until the end.
but one thing i think is important to remember is that Lelouch is still young and there are several moments in which his emotions overtake his logical mind, when he geass-ed Shirley's memory away, i dont think he was thinking logically, he was thinking more emotionally/empathically tring to give Shirley a way to escape the pain and torment from everything she was going through, same with Mao when Suzakus secret was exposed, Lelouch was seeing his best friend in distress because of Mao running his mouth, so he get angry and geass-ed Mao almost reactively, or at least thats how i saw it.
It is the way we should interpret it I think
Fun fact, Code Geass episode 1 premiered Oct 5th 2006, ONE DAY after Death Note's premiere on Oct 4th 2006! Crazy how similar they are, yet they couldn't have influence from each other.
Lelouch is 100x the character that Light was, people need to stop comparing them
@@kingmisogyny1852 trueing
It was mentioned in an early episode the Ashford family was backing Lelouch's mom in court when she died they lost power Lelouch probably would have married Milly if things were different
Bruh, what a weird pairing. They're almost like siblings, it's so hard to imagine
The small moments when you notice Nunnally is Lelouch's sister and part of the royal family. All the princesses are relatively composed in dangerous situations and Nunnally really shows how her brother has rubbed off on her. Especially because of their harsh upbringing.
Every geass is different because every person manifests it in their own way. Basically personality reflects in the kind of power you possess.
I’m honestly very impressed by how much y’all are picking up in yalls first watch. Great discussions, can’t wait to see more!
Suzaku doesn't think he was in the right to kill his father. He knows he did a terrible thing, and that's why he doesn't agree with Zero's methods. That kind of mindset only leads to loss. It's the mindset that took his father's life and Shirley's father's life as well.
It's also why Suzaku is always charging into danger. He wants to die for his crime but wants to give his life for something that will have meaning.
Y’all do know Suzaku is well a “super” solider right? Like he’s training allows him to do all those things despite him being a human. I don’t get it what is there to be shocked about.
Suzaku is quite a complex character maybe a bit more complex than Lelouch. Despite his flaws he’s a well written character
They just dismiss everything Suzaku does at this point..
There was never a good solution to the Shirley Dilemma.
Lloyd is 29 in season one. Given Milly is a year up from Lelouch and the other council members, she is 18. So, 11 year age gap, but nothing illegal by our standards.
Damn I always assumed he was in his 40s, this makes WAY more sense
i love the code geass styled art logos too. code geass supremeee
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Code Geass Supremacy
Suzaku killing his father to stop the war, for me explained so much of his character he regrets it so much that he's obsessed always following the rules and never takes things into his own hands because the one time he did he accidentally killed his father and doomed his entire country's future. I'm not saying his hypocrisy is ok just that it makes sense as to why he's like that.
It's also why he is constantly throwing himself into danger. He doesn't want to keep living. He wants to die for the people. To make amends.
The chess piece that Lelouch knocked over at 5:30 is a white queen
Death Note amd Code Geass came out around the same time. Death Note being earlier, but not by enough to shape Code Geass
Episode 16 really just shows that Lelouch and Suzaku are an unstoppable duo. If Suzaku had joined Zero, there is little that could have stopped them.
Suzaku the spinning beyblade!
We often call him Spinzaku!
spinzaku!
The Mao trilogy is some peak Code Geass. It's probably my favorite arc in the series. There's still more great content to follow. It's just we have Lelouch fighting a fellow Geass user who is basically a hard counter to him. Mao is an idiot, but he's obscenely good at gas lighting people.
IMO code geass is so good and I think reactors and anime fans with "media literacy" are able to understand this anime beyond the surface level (empire=bad and revolution=good ) you can see it in our main cast of characters but also side/minor characters. They can be male or female (also implied some of them could be gay or lesbian)
Just like real world if you want to change the world you have to get your hands "dirty"
If Suzaki didn’t kill his father japan would have been destroyed even more. They had no knigtmarles and at the time no technology to even stay up to them. and a lot of people would have pointlessly die. Granted you could debate if suzaku had the right to take that away from the people to continue fighting.
When he did the trumpet sound that took me out 😂😂🎺
Viletta is lowkey the baddest chick in this show 😍😍
More like high key she's the best waifu 😍
I like all the female characters in this show because all of them are different and I feel like they are written well. Even nina, I know many hate her but I understand her to degree and her feelings same with other female characters. Its rare to see well written female characters in anime.
@InugamiTheHound Couldn't agree more that the female cast is praise worthy, to say the least
@@InugamiTheHound I can’t fuck with Nina she’s just too deranged and selfish lol. She does come in clutch a bit in season 2 but even then it’s just cleaning up her own mistake
Orange boy is best waifu
13:57 Naw Josh was wilding that 😂😂 Great discussion and theorizing for these set of episodes 🔥
raging boner and Lulu talked about seeing CC naked as well
Something I never really thought about before that kinda made me see C.C. in a slightly more grey light regarding the Mao situation is that as far as we know she doesn't know what kind of Geass the people get when she makes a contract with them. It may seem kinda obvious if you think about it since each Geass is unique but that never really clicked to me, you know. I think if C.C. knew that Mao would have gotten that specific Geass to read people's minds involuntarily all the time she probably wouldn't have given him a Geass.
About 10 more episodes THIS SEASON, there's also R2 which is still the original series. There's a total of 50 episodes before the OVAs and spin-offs.
Apparently the writers at one point had an explanation for Suzaku's super human abilities. But it was one of the plot lines they had to drop due to timing.
If my genius brother was best friends with a near superhuman Japanese guy I wouldn't be too worried either haha
Really like your reactions
There is a season 2 as well as a movie for the alternate universe ending. So there is much more to see.
I know people already said it but damn the art logos goes hard Josh!
Having a blast seeing Josh and Meghan theorizing👀
Lelouch is at his best when all he has to worry about is thinking logically, so he made a huge mistake with Shirley, and he crumbled when Mao got introduced, he had to be snapped out of it by someone else both times, and he probably wasn't thinking very clearly when he used Geass to erase Shirley's memory of him.. because he got emotional.
When he gets emotional he does the wrong thing and it tends to mess everything up almost immediately for himself because for as smart as he is he is not at all emotionally mature and it takes him a lot of time to overcome that..
Suzaku is your friendly neighborhood Soldier-Man. 😂
Also i can see your point on Shirley thing, i guess i would have 2 excuses i could think of. Either he was emotionally unstable in that moment so he didnt think things through so he made a spur of the moment decision. And/or having less complicated excuse makes more sense and its bound to be less looked into then a complicated one. Thats why he choose something simple like them having a fight and encouraged everyone to play along. Tho i can see conflicts that could appear especially for the second one, cuz it looked like he threw caution into the wind and just gave a flimsy excuse.
It’s in the next couple of episodes, I think. Lelouch isn’t planning on hanging around Ashford, that’s why we’ll see him trying to secure Nunally’s future soon. If he isn’t around than its less likely people will find out about Shirley’s memories. Even if they do, they’ll make up an explanation that seems reasonable to them which still protects Lelouch and keeps Shirley away from anyone else targeting her to get to him.
@@TheOriginalInferno maybe, but we're not talking spoilers of what happens beside what we've seen so far. This was an assumption based on the current state of the characters.
I mean Tbf with lulu making Shirley forget everything my head cannon is that he was expecting he would have to leave the school fairly soon either way to move to the next step of his plan. Be it him faking his death and sending Nana to the homeland like you said or him having to lie to the ashford saying that they were found out that they were alive and had to flee.
So long story short I believe he had to leave the school so it didn’t matter if she remembers or not.
But another thing why didn’t he just say that it was due to a trauma block with he father death that’s more of an understandable answer then her being pissed at him.
37:00 also yes let’s tell the paralyzed blind little girl that she has a bomb hanging above her head smart…..
Should watch Codement a code geass abridged series.
I don't remember if it was confirmed or just a fan thing, but it's a rule that applies anyway, the more powerful a geass, the more restrictions it has. Like reading minds is cool yeah, but compared to complete and total hypnosis, it's kinda weak, so mao has few limitations while lelouch has a good few
Lol you guys really hate Suzaku huh.. He's problematic but still a very reliable friend and a super soldier
I can count the number of reaction channels that don't hate or don't straight up despise Suzaku on a single hand lol.
I understand Suzaku's perspective, but his moral boner is infuriating
@@hextraordinaire2347yeah I know and understand, but it's kinda difficult for me who are neutral towards him to see reactors hating on him at every turn like this. No one is in show is completely black and white, but Suzaku took the greatest hate (that's also because he keeps reminding us of his morals lol, but what to do)
I hope someone on Patreon told you to not check the title of one specific episode.
I wanna ask the patreon members how deep has V1+ has gone into the anime what episode are they on same as here or different ,thanks.
We are on the same episodes, patreon and UA-cam members get to see the episodes before they upload on UA-cam for everyone and they are uncut and uncensored.
@@volumeoneplus Again thanks for the info .
That chess match with Mao has always been one of my favourite episodes, and Zatch Bell shirt looks so good, Josh.
W reaction
_Kinda Spoiler_
As you have seen the comments of your discussion about Death note and this being similar but having almost one day apart premiers ,you would be surprised later on as you watch this series.
*ACTUAL SPOILER*
As we all anime lovers know
49:30 Schneizel Enters the chat lol ,but on a more serious note that is crazy precognition!!
Ive always hated his geass to shirley, but i cant think of a good single command to cover him being zero, him killing her dad, and address their personal history
Loving the reactions and discussions! Highly recommend Fooly Cooly (FLCL). The main story is the first season and only six episodes but they are iconic!
Could have ordered her to just forget those specific things rather than them as a whole and could have also ordered her to not be in love with him anymore or as involved in his life to keep her safe which ultimately is the reason he wiped her memory of him in the first place
Love the reactions!!! Can't wait for the next episode!!! Come on CODE GEASS fans where you at it's been a while since there is a reactors who focuses on the story and not just the hype.
And by the way just don't mind some anime moments like can't be explained it's minimal the story(political) is what made this my favorite.
Every time watching this I can stop buth think of that the most crazy part of Mao trying to make C.C. "compact" is that she would survive this since she is immortal. 0o
I think the memory thing was just a bad move on the writer's part. Im fine with overlooking this mistake bc the rest of the story is so well written.
Now you can understand Suzaku better. For one the very lack of self preservation is due to his want/need to be pushined for murdering his father at such a young age. And the other is now the understanding of why Suzaku way of thinking is based on the value of life. And not the quality. For him, when his father wanted a due or die resistance, he acted against that, in order to give his father's death reason his psyche has to go all the way in with this train of thought. It's not so much the argument or discussion of why he is a hypocrite anymore because of those values are not of his concern. To him living even if oppressed is better than dying. If you look at everything he's done up till now with this mentality at all make sense of why he's so headstrong about preservation of life above all. Why he became an honorary bitranian and soldier makes sense two-fold both for his lack of value on his own life and for the high value of everybody else's. Way of living was never really part of the discussion for him. Seems like the concept of fighting for something worth dying for is very easily lost on him when the answer of why not just choose life instead every single time is the obvious choice.
Doesn't make him any less likeable as a purely naive man child in the show but considering his trauma... One can atleast empathize, specially what his character brings into this bleak world.
It makes him WAY more likeable. He's PTSD'ed to borderline insanity. Anybody who can't at LEAST empathise with that is just watching the show braindead
@@frenchynoobpoor guy has pstd at such a young hate and yet most still despises and hates his gut
So triggered by Suzaku. He's not even written to be a hateful character.
"When he does it, it's fine" No. He knows he was wrong that why he's suicidal. He's literally seeking punishment for what he sees as his crime. How are you arriving at the exact opposite of what the show is trying to tell you? This is just weird.
Yeah I know right. They're down right dismissing everything Suzaku related at this point it's frustrating
Yeah, the constant Suzaku hate boner is gonna be a turn off...
I know right. It's really very disturbing at this point. They couldn't appreciate Suzaku saving Nunally at all in this episode, keep thinking that he would fuck up..
Bruh, it's Suzaku
*Spoiler(?)*
Give them time to fully grasp the Suzaku. They don't know the full story.
You think of Suzaku differently because you've watched the whole story, but they haven't. They don't have to agree with you on everything. Just give em' time, everyone's different
@@hextraordinaire2347 I have seen plenty of reactors hating on Suzaku, just some are more obvious and explicit and disturbing than others.
But of course I can't and won't force them to agree with me. Just giving them what I think of their reaction (that's what the comment section is for right), and if their constant despite for Suzaku bother me, then I'll just drop it. . I have seen various reaction channels, most of them hate Suzaku, but nth to this extent
@@hextraordinaire2347 i've never hated Suzaku to the ridiculous extent most people do even on my first watch, but whatever. People can irrationally hate characters, that's fine, but hating SO MUCH that you talk over CRUCIAL CHARACTERIZATION FOR SAID CHARACTER is just stupid for a _reaction channel_
@@frenchynoobexactly this! hating him to the point of completely dismissing him as a character, whatever he did, his thought process and sufferings, is just a very biased way of watching the show
If this constant explicit Suzaku hate and despise keeps up, even after knowing his backstory and reasons (im not saying hes in the right, but it at least makes sense or explains his thinking and suicidal tendencies), and you guys criticizing him almost at every turn, it's gonna become difficult for those who are neutral towards Suzaku l/like Suzaku (yes he DOES have fans, just not very vocal) to watch the videos. I'm pretty sure Suzaku wad built as a character to be hated or despised either
Suzuka is the worst character in Anime
honestly, the mao section of the story is my least favorite. it doesnt seem to have alot to do with the main plot and introduces alot of loose threads that fall apart under scrutiny. really needed to suspend my disbelief during this part of the show
I would have loved to watch the reaction to this show if it had not been a dub... but still the like and the comments for support...
No matter what these people say, the dub is awful and isn’t translated very well. It’s an Americanized dub and it takes so much away from these characters.