Breaking Hearts & Records: KOM Hunting On The New Campagnolo Hyperon Ultra Wheels

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  • Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
  • The art of heading out for a ride and stealing other cyclists KOM’s. So when Campagnolo recently launched the Hyperon wheelset, one which they say has the magic ratio for all-round performance, Alex wanted to know if it's possible to steal 3 KOMS in a day? It's time to go hunting...with a bit of help!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 315

  • @gcn
    @gcn  Рік тому +15

    Do you ever make an effort to go for KOM/QOM's? 👑 Let us know in the comments! 👇

    • @TBATTIECYCLING
      @TBATTIECYCLING Рік тому +1

      I have two in Manchester and Graeme McDonald has the others , he’s the Manchester monster 👺

    • @Legacy40k
      @Legacy40k Рік тому +1

      Rarely. I would never go out on a ride specifically to try for one, but if it's on the route and I'm feeling good I might give it a go.

    • @charlesdufour9276
      @charlesdufour9276 Рік тому

      It would be fun to see KOM/QOM hunting or other challenges on this piece of cycling history ua-cam.com/video/FuMf6-9ZsJo/v-deo.html.

    • @cagacowarspear344
      @cagacowarspear344 Рік тому

      Já e muito! O Mais esforçado e duro que foi, Foi em uma subida de 800m com 6% de inclinação com 35kmh de média.

    • @huntos83
      @huntos83 Рік тому +3

      Yes I do, I use them as max effort intervals for training. On a good day can pick up several in one ride

  • @bobbyenglish7803
    @bobbyenglish7803 Рік тому +175

    Please reward Feather for his hard work with a holiday in California - and whilst he's there he can try to take some of Gaimon's KOM's, would love to see Phil's reaction.

    • @DrJRMCFC
      @DrJRMCFC Рік тому +14

      That would be an episode definitely worth watching

    • @artgreen6915
      @artgreen6915 Рік тому +1

      At least some of Gaimon's KOMs involve a bit more endurance, don't they?

    • @howlinhauler
      @howlinhauler Рік тому

      please!

    • @antonlasy7501
      @antonlasy7501 Рік тому

      YES! Would be so EPIC!

    • @alexanderdiaz8475
      @alexanderdiaz8475 Рік тому

      This would be pretty awesome!

  • @Ruben_english
    @Ruben_english Рік тому +74

    Great video again with Andrew Feather! Absolute beast on the bike. I know it's a sponsored video though, but I cannot comprehend why an amateur cyclists, no matter how skilled, can rationalise spending $4000 on a set of wheels. Or am I the only one who thinks like this?

    • @mikemazzantini6397
      @mikemazzantini6397 Рік тому +4

      $4k is a lot. However I will say I spent close to $2k on some carbon wheels and I love them. I could see spending more on a set if I only had one bike.

    • @Roberthpike
      @Roberthpike Рік тому +3

      Agree..Nope..Nope..Nope.

    • @fuzzykiller
      @fuzzykiller Рік тому +1

      If you’re on a $20k bike, why not? 🤡

    • @LouieBaLLz
      @LouieBaLLz Рік тому

      @@fuzzykiller Or have a small PP., why not? 🤣

    • @DoNuT_1985
      @DoNuT_1985 Рік тому +3

      Wealthy people are amateurs, too ... and hobbies are never rational. I spent 1k on a set of wheels on an entry-level carbon bike, that's possibly a more disproportionate investment than putting these on a fancy super bike, so why not, if you can afford it and it makes you happy? It for sure keeps Campy alive.

  • @andras.89
    @andras.89 Рік тому +73

    Always pleasure to watch an episode with Mr. Andrew Feather! :)

    • @andras.89
      @andras.89 Рік тому

      Laughed at the end, nice job Andrew - (I jiggled on the "reactions" :) )

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +1

      Feather always smashes it! Can you think of any other challenges we should be setting him? 👀

  • @10415153
    @10415153 Рік тому +24

    Andrew is a machine!
    I appreciated the power overlay GCN team 👍

  • @Adonteon21
    @Adonteon21 Рік тому +23

    Love the editing with showing the watts of power during the ride.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +1

      those power numbers 👀

  • @JonColes-su7xp
    @JonColes-su7xp Рік тому +13

    Old Wells Road into a headwind - what an incredible time! Well done Andrew! I’ve had that one since 2017 (before Ollie 😉) and had a massive tailwind 😂. You smashed it! 💪👏

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +2

      Are you still on the leaderboard? 👀

    • @JonColes-su7xp
      @JonColes-su7xp Рік тому +6

      @@gcn In 2nd place now - just above Ollie as he equalled my time 😉

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +3

      @@JonColes-su7xp That's good going 💪

  • @benanderson9551
    @benanderson9551 Рік тому +55

    Andrew Feather is a cheat code 😂

    • @TBATTIECYCLING
      @TBATTIECYCLING Рік тому

      Check out Graeme McDonald of Manchester for the true KOMs

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +1

      Hahaha what game would you like to use Andrew Feather cheat code in? 😂

  • @aajfranklin
    @aajfranklin Рік тому +41

    Always fun watching Andrew. Think I'll pass on the wheels though - they cost significantly more than my whole bike 🫠

    • @mrstanhope1516
      @mrstanhope1516 Рік тому +2

      but think of all the KOMs you could get!!

    • @LouieBaLLz
      @LouieBaLLz Рік тому +1

      Yeah, $4000.USD for wheels is crazy. I'll buy the new Winspace wheels for $1200. and have plenty left over for post ride beer.

  • @krehme
    @krehme Рік тому +9

    Fun watch guys! Special thanks to Mr. Feather for being such a good sport. Wonderful touch showing the power numbers. So amazing!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому

      It's hard for us to watch those powers 🫣

  • @stevedouglas3975
    @stevedouglas3975 Рік тому +17

    £3200 for a pair of wheels! That's more than I paid for my Canyon with Ultegra Di2 with perfectly good DT Swiss wheels. Mental.

  • @jaisejohnson
    @jaisejohnson Рік тому +9

    Nice work with the power overlay.

    • @princeandrew5430
      @princeandrew5430 Рік тому

      Feather's power meter is the best joke in british cycling (it over-reads)

  • @TheBestAround08
    @TheBestAround08 Рік тому +8

    So glad GCN added this beast to their team! Great job Andrew!

    • @bateriayvr8988
      @bateriayvr8988 Рік тому

      Agreed

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +1

      He is the true horse power behind the GCN team

  • @alinapopescu872
    @alinapopescu872 Рік тому +10

    I'd be rubbish on any set of wheels, no matter how expensive they may be (and this one is very expensive; I wouldn't pay that much for an entire bike). Hats off to Andrew and a big "thank you" for being such a good sport.

  • @veriest1
    @veriest1 Рік тому +37

    I actually laughed out loud when Alex said who had the first KOM.

    • @wibblemu9
      @wibblemu9 Рік тому +3

      My jaw actually dropped. Why they gotta do my boy like that lmao

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +1

      Si better buck up his ideas 😂

    • @veriest1
      @veriest1 Рік тому +1

      @@gcn "Revenge" episode time. 🤣

  • @iconhotel182
    @iconhotel182 Рік тому +4

    The power overlay is cool. Just one number that matters! The last bit is a fun bonus - si and Ollie’s reactions 😂

  • @GOLTEB
    @GOLTEB Рік тому +5

    It's always a treat to watch our very own twig, Andrew Feather!

  • @cgfootman
    @cgfootman Рік тому +2

    I love the reactions and i assume the non-filmed were the same 🤣🤣

  • @stevedouglas3975
    @stevedouglas3975 Рік тому +8

    I hope "mystery" ride was flagged as an obvious e-bike/car ride. 11 KOMs in the one and only ride. Yeah, nothing suspicious about that.....

  • @Hill_Walker
    @Hill_Walker Рік тому +6

    Just got back from the bank, apparently you can't take out a mortgage to buy some bike wheels.

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 Рік тому

      But you can take out a loan, so no excuse!

  • @WattsOnTheUp
    @WattsOnTheUp Рік тому +2

    Love the Campagnolo Wheels! It's why I bought a LightBicycle AR wheelset for way less than a quarter of the price.

  • @chrisridesbicycles
    @chrisridesbicycles Рік тому +7

    Feather‘s style is really special. On these flat climbs, out of the saddle can‘t be the fastest method, especially into a headwind. Maybe you can borrow Remco for another attempt and see if the same is possible with 200W less.

    • @RB-xv4si
      @RB-xv4si Рік тому +2

      Yes, special as in special ed. someone needs to get him to the wind tunnel so he has a better grasp of when he needs to be concerned with aero. The last climb, not so much. But the first two, he absolutely should not have been standing up like that.

  • @vanillabirding6250
    @vanillabirding6250 Рік тому +3

    Thanks for keeping up the great content! Just had my first ever "new bike day" experienced as such (only childrens bikes before) but I am out of the game with a fractured rib so I sit at home looking at my new bike. Good thing is it does not get dirty standing there in my room. Always look on the brigt side, i guess ^^ Cant wait to get going though.

  • @salimsanchez89
    @salimsanchez89 Рік тому +3

    I love the power overlay. Wish the UCI would do this for race broadcasting

  • @raff5604
    @raff5604 Рік тому +5

    Ollies reaction was the best!!! LOL!!!

  • @DiscipleOfMan
    @DiscipleOfMan Рік тому +6

    Been trying for years to get a KOM, made the top 5, not giving up!

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +1

      Keep pushing 🙌 Is the KOM on a local climb? 👀

  • @sergioaguire7963
    @sergioaguire7963 Рік тому +3

    Bear mountain in NY , 5 mile climb..is very nice climbing

  • @charliecook6909
    @charliecook6909 Рік тому +4

    Andrew is a full on legend , still can't believe the 2.06 seconds he got up streatly hill , he's a beast 👏👏👏👏👏 would love to see a video of him trying to take that kom from himself 🤣

  • @kuri8015
    @kuri8015 Рік тому +5

    I'd love Andrew Feather to do the Mt. Fuji Hill climb event in Japan. I think it is 24km at an average of 5%. It's held in early June.

    • @princeandrew5430
      @princeandrew5430 Рік тому

      Too long for him! The pros would rinse him.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +2

      Sounds like a perfect feather challenge 👀

  • @tommahnke
    @tommahnke Рік тому +1

    I do think that Campagnolo still makes the coolest stuff.

  • @vozzen
    @vozzen Рік тому +2

    I looked up Bloomfield Road segment and seems Andrew Feather is the KOM holder now

  • @fromherewerun
    @fromherewerun Рік тому +5

    Couple of GCN+ film ideas - 1) How many of the Top100 climbs can Feather get... 2) Send him to LA to troll Phil Gaimon.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому

      Phil vs Feather! That could get ugly 👀

  • @Sozzled39
    @Sozzled39 Рік тому +1

    I'm too old in my mid forties to keep up with the KOM smashing youngsters, but I've still got one KOM that has remained unbroken for 10 years.

  • @238949
    @238949 Рік тому +4

    Exit left Ollie Bridgewood heading out to get his KOM back x

  • @obikedog
    @obikedog Рік тому +2

    Love taking a KOM. As a solo rider it is difficult in my area of rolling hills here in NC where most of the KOMs are held "officially" by an individual but the leader board clearly reveals a team time trial effort was needed to nab it. These team achievements, while laudable, are absolutely not on the same level as a solo effort. Maybe too many challenges but I'd really like to see Strava add a separate category for them and keep the KOM boards cleaner in this respect. (Maybe add heart rate and power number requirements while they're at it!)

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому

      Solo KOMs are always a little bit harder 🙌 Do you ever go out with a team to try and steal KOMs?

    • @obikedog
      @obikedog Рік тому

      @@gcn Sadly, not as often as I'd like. Most cyclists prefer early morning rides (I do too) to beat the heat/traffic but our morning routine these days doesn't really permit me the luxury. Still looking for a group that likes a 1-2pm start time!

  • @kibblerspencer
    @kibblerspencer Рік тому +4

    Andrew Feather vs. Phil Gaimon the ultimate battle for the KOM

    • @princeandrew5430
      @princeandrew5430 Рік тому +1

      Nope - that would be Vinegaard vs Remco (not Pog)

  • @screscenti
    @screscenti Рік тому +2

    Andrew Feather is an absolute beast!!! His new name will be the K1000... The Kominator

  • @ExtremeScampi
    @ExtremeScampi Рік тому +1

    Ollie’s reaction 🤣👏🏼

  • @veloperformance
    @veloperformance Рік тому

    LOLS love the reactions of Oli and Simon

  • @kangzta1
    @kangzta1 9 місяців тому

    "and Oliver Bridgewood simply isn't good enough..."
    LOLLLLLL 😂🤣
    We love you Oli! You are speed!

  • @smallrob19
    @smallrob19 Рік тому +5

    The reaction clips were very enjoyable. Fun video!

  • @JDRELGOR
    @JDRELGOR Рік тому +3

    We have one person in my area that takes KOM's and it turns out he's on an ebike but doesn't say he is, but still we all know now.

  • @clintnieves
    @clintnieves Рік тому +2

    Alex, good job sabotaging the KOMs of Dr. Bridgewood and Si 🤣✌. Love the virtual countdown beeps

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому

      Lets see if they can respond 👀

  • @lukediamand1694
    @lukediamand1694 Рік тому +1

    That is true professionalism riding in that weather.

  • @tmilner762
    @tmilner762 Рік тому

    Loved Oli's reaction!! Brilliant 😂

  • @GregLanz
    @GregLanz Рік тому

    I've loved all of my Campagnolo wheels, I might need to start saving

  • @JonPaul
    @JonPaul Рік тому +2

    If there's one thing I've learned from all the GCN videos, it's that the worst cycling weather in the world exists right there, in England. I guess this adds context to all the street murders in the Sherlock Holms tales. The weather there just has everyone so damn mad, they were murdering each other in the fog.

  • @MrVizzle
    @MrVizzle Рік тому +3

    His sustained power look like my sprint on zwift lol

  • @tbz1551
    @tbz1551 Рік тому +1

    11:04 "I literally can't wait" ... waits.

  • @JoolsBurke
    @JoolsBurke Рік тому +3

    Not 100% sure, but have all GCN videos been in the cold and/or wet for about three years now?

  • @TheEpieikeia
    @TheEpieikeia Рік тому

    I've got so much respect for this gentleman! I would challenge Mr. Feather to snatch the KOM on my doorstep: the Mur de Milon-la-Chapelle (France, 30 km SW of Paris) which was climbed twice on the 2023 Paris-Nice, with Pogacar already leading the pack! A short yet hellishly steep climb (with a maximum gradient of 22% according to my Garmin Edge).

  • @alexparker8355
    @alexparker8355 Рік тому

    Great video, my power + that of a grand tour pro would struggle to get those numbers. Mans a machine

  • @n22pdf
    @n22pdf Рік тому

    Awesome vid guys wow the feather was flying 🤩👍 love my campagnolo wheels I use the shamal carbon and aluminium brilliant 🏅🚴❤️‍🔥

  • @donaldrieger381
    @donaldrieger381 Рік тому +1

    Wheels are nice! Andrew Feather is awesome! But can we please talk about Ollie's GMBN mug?

  • @beeballman62
    @beeballman62 Рік тому

    Great video! Priceless !

  • @sa3key
    @sa3key Рік тому

    Send Mr Feather to Mount Baldy in California. Was used in the Tour of California multiple times. Or Torrey Pines in San Diego. Happy hunting!

  • @pspnob
    @pspnob Рік тому +2

    It would be interesting to see the Feather taking KOM's on an entry level bike. Something that costs about £1500-£2000.

    • @DoNuT_1985
      @DoNuT_1985 Рік тому

      I don't think it would be that interesting. Feather took 20 seconds and more from the previous KOMs and a bike in that price range shouldn't hold him back significantly.

    • @princeandrew5430
      @princeandrew5430 Рік тому +1

      The person behind this account takes KOM's on a £220 second hand giant defy claris (and has also raced cat1 1 on it ) ... so Feather needs a shopping bike

  • @djbayr9516
    @djbayr9516 Рік тому +5

    When is feather presenting? I think it's time!

  • @im-on-youtube
    @im-on-youtube Рік тому

    "Oh friend, friend - my cycling friend" .... and here you are being the mastermind of Ollie's undoing 😂

  • @2.old4this
    @2.old4this Рік тому +1

    Sorry Si, it wasn’t me. But looking at his well-groomed quiff, I suggest Dr Ollie has stolen everyone’s combs.😊

  • @pauloosterhout
    @pauloosterhout Рік тому +1

    I love the fact that Simon Richardson can't even remember where Norton Lane is. This does raise the question: how much should we celebrate the holder of KOM over a segment of road that barely qualifies as a hill? I mean, if a ride is not memorable is it even worthy of a "KOM" award?

  • @СаняСаня-з2т
    @СаняСаня-з2т Рік тому +5

    Mystery E-Bike Rider .... LOL!

  • @neilo2323
    @neilo2323 Рік тому +4

    Beautiful Campagnolo. Looks so classy compared to Shimano.

  • @electricbikerider
    @electricbikerider Рік тому

    Kudos to Mr Feathers. 💪🏼🚴🏻‍♂️

  • @richardstoner866
    @richardstoner866 Рік тому +2

    I’m not sure that Simon lost his KOM….he was 2:17…🎉

  • @princeandrew5430
    @princeandrew5430 Рік тому +1

    Andy blesses his little cotton aero socks daily that he lives in the same place as a media giant and so can make some easy cash.

  • @TBATTIECYCLING
    @TBATTIECYCLING Рік тому

    Graeme McDonald of Manchester is the KOM collector! Absolutely gobbles them up for fun

  • @darrenhill8503
    @darrenhill8503 Рік тому

    Love Campagnolo

  • @barrygray8536
    @barrygray8536 Рік тому

    Please come to North Hill (little baddow hill) in Essex, Chelmsford, Alex Dowsett has held it for years, I think you have that in the locker feather 🎉

  • @bonzaiii3
    @bonzaiii3 Рік тому

    I'd love the vids with Andrew !!

  • @N0bodyOfTheGoat
    @N0bodyOfTheGoat Рік тому +1

    Was I the only one thinking that for all Andrew's amazing W/Kg, he was almost as aero as a brick up those first two low gradient, high speed climbs? ;)

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому

      He loves to climb out the saddle... it clearly works for him! 🙌

  • @hzunasdfgbciw
    @hzunasdfgbciw Рік тому +1

    Ok, no KOMs for us heavier riders. Are there KODs (King of the Descend), too? And wheelsets stable at 100+ km/h?

  • @robertwaldren6206
    @robertwaldren6206 Рік тому +2

    I’m going against the grain on this one; it just felt like I was watching a Campy commercial, without much point to it. Of course Mr. Feather should beat Si & Ollie. No disrespect to them, but he’s the National Hillclimb Champ with thousands of KOMs. And Mr. Feather is an awesome rider, but GCN should be careful not to overuse him. Seems like he’s been featured in every 3rd video lately. The bigger issue here, which was barely alluded to, is Strava’s poor policing of their leaderboards. I’d like to see more discussion of that.

  • @kentwong3818
    @kentwong3818 Рік тому

    hilarious ending with si and oli

  • @robertparry8725
    @robertparry8725 Рік тому

    Bloody hell. I'm killing myself trying to do those sorts of speeds on the flat, never mind uphill into a headwind !

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +1

      We feel your pain 😂

  • @nightsfalling
    @nightsfalling Рік тому +1

    I am curious to have Andrew trying these KOMs with some good weather.

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому +1

      We think he would smash his own records 👀

    • @nightsfalling
      @nightsfalling Рік тому

      Yes 🙌

  • @paulbrown9075
    @paulbrown9075 Рік тому

    Arsehole hill segment on Strava over in good old Essex near Chelmsford! Come and get a kom!

  • @ollieelgie
    @ollieelgie Рік тому

    Idea for a GCN+ video - Andrew Feather hunts all the KOMs in Simon Warren's 100 Great Climbs (he probably has half of them already), or maybe the top 20. Preferably touring the country in a campervan driven by Conor, gooning around. Perhaps take Ollie too as a benchmark for where a blooming good amateur sits. It'd be good to have more time to talk kit (aero vs. weight depending on gradient), impact of conditions - temperature/rain, and technique (entry speed, hitting the bottom hard, saving a match for a steep bit at the top) etc...

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому

      That's a great idea! Could make a great long film for GCN+ 👀If you fancy more Feather action, we have this great Doc 👉 gcn.eu/feather

  • @ellipticalsoul
    @ellipticalsoul Рік тому +1

    I got top 10 on a segment and that's about the best I will manage. I'd like to beat a time Connor Swift set (obviously not at full gas) on a segment I regularly ride though 😆

  • @NikokhosB
    @NikokhosB Рік тому

    Send Andrew to the Dirty Dozen this year in Pittsburgh, PA!

  • @adammorris6348
    @adammorris6348 Рік тому

    There's a few KOM'S here on the Port Hills in Christchurch NZ that would take some beating

  • @fjallmann
    @fjallmann Рік тому

    Andrew is truly a chad among the mad. Absolute strength in those legs.

  • @bateriayvr8988
    @bateriayvr8988 Рік тому

    Feather, the KOM King! 👑

  • @jw3638
    @jw3638 Рік тому +1

    What happened to Quinton's KOM? He didn't upload his with Andrew's? Love how they're just taking away Si' and Ollie's KOM and in terrible conditions, too. Ollie probably planned his ride perfectly - weather, road conditions, tailwind, tires, tire pressure...
    Rodney did them dirty having Feather hunt their KOMs

  • @EricWohnig
    @EricWohnig Рік тому

    Dear Andrew, come and tear up the KOM game here in South Carolina!

  • @DrewKime
    @DrewKime Рік тому

    Ollie had the most relatable reaction.

  • @vozzen
    @vozzen Рік тому +1

    Strava needs to get rid of all these fake KOMs, held by riders that simply chose the wrong activity or had an electric bike or something

  • @RochsWorld
    @RochsWorld Рік тому +1

    Do a video in which Andrew attempts to get all of Si's and Ollie's KOMs

  • @jamietucker8275
    @jamietucker8275 Рік тому

    Living in the SW, I do occasionally run across a hill where the KOM is held by Feather, feels like a tiny brush with fame

    • @gcn
      @gcn  Рік тому

      Hahaha do you ever try and give it a nudge? 👀

  • @davidlau2467
    @davidlau2467 Рік тому +2

    Amazing. How much faster would he have been on a dry surface?

    • @ChrisP978
      @ChrisP978 Рік тому +2

      Temperature plays a bigger role than stickion, air density and rolling resistance are higher in cold temperatures. Although the headwind is going to be the biggest factor overall. 0.5 km/h for the better weather but several km/h if you have a tailwind.

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 Рік тому

      Lower friction in the wet, so less rolling resistence? :-)

  • @DrJRMCFC
    @DrJRMCFC Рік тому +1

    Stunning wheels, beautifully built. Seriously expensive.

    • @princeandrew5430
      @princeandrew5430 Рік тому

      Bit like your club, mate (and my afternoon truffles)

  • @timfarmer
    @timfarmer Рік тому +2

    Good to see by the look of Strava that the e-bike rider has been reported 😁 and Feather has that KOM

  • @aafrancom
    @aafrancom Рік тому

    You guys are like the Miguel Angel "Superman" López of the UK.

  • @BRMCaptChaos
    @BRMCaptChaos Рік тому

    Olly goes full Olly. Top bloke.

  • @pretzelhunt
    @pretzelhunt Рік тому

    andrew in full GCN gear asking who's Si... I didnt know I was getting a mini Gui Ritchi film!

  • @sa3key
    @sa3key Рік тому

    Shocked there are still KOM’s in England that Mr Feather does not have!

  • @BM-qz2pd
    @BM-qz2pd Рік тому

    Cheddar Gorge!

  • @lesflynn4455
    @lesflynn4455 Рік тому +1

    Expensive marginal gains methinks. Those wheels cost nearly as much as I paid for my car.

  • @robsarahs1
    @robsarahs1 Рік тому

    the three ways up butser hill, especially harvesting lane.

  • @timtaylor9590
    @timtaylor9590 Рік тому +1

    some ppl take koms too serious. chasing them is really as waste of time, besides having to rely on wind or all around good conditions, anyone could easily assemble a group or draft cars. im not sure about the exact etiquette but i know a lot of ppl do not follow it.