Sony RX10 Mk IV Review: Ultimate Fixed Lens Camera!
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Sony just announced the RX10 Mk IV - marketed as an all-in-one, fixed-lens solution for sports and wildlife photography. Featuring a 315-point phase-detect autofocus system and a built-in ZEISS 24-600mm lens, tag along with Justin to see if the RX10 Mk IV is worth its hefty $1,700 price tag. Order the Sony RX10mkIV on Amazon at help.tc/RX104
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We need more videos from Justin, just saying... Excellent job...
Justin do you have your own channel?
It's nice to have you here Justin when Tony and Chelsea are not around great camera review!!!!
Good job Justin!
If anyone in Sony reads this, all I want in RX10 V (not necessarily for Cristmass) is (in order of priority):
-UHS-II card slot
-Focus point joystick
-Improved IS
-Improved weather-sealing
-Their best AF in all non-HFR modes
-Dual gain ISO
-USB C for power, charging and data transfer
-fully articulated touchscreen
-bigger battery with longer battery life
-tripod screw mount closer to the lens and not near the edge
-5/6K30p 8-bit 4.2.0 (10-bit would be awsome) - internal
-4K30p 10-bit 4.2.2 full width, oversampled (60p would be awsome) - internal
-HFR same as RX10 IV but at slightly better quality
-24-bit audio without XLR adapter?
I would pay any money!
Well.. It did not work :/
Nice to meet you, Justin. Well done review, too!
Thanks for the effort, Justin, really enjoying your style and dedication. And yes, been expecting some jazz, wasn't disappointed.
When mentioning equivalences, you forgot to mention that the light gathering ability is still f/2.4-4. Everyone seems so fixated on DOF, but that argument goes two ways as well. To get an equivalent DOF from a FF camera, you'd have to stop down to match the RX10 IV, which really impedes light gathering ability for FF and slows down your shutter speed greatly. It's best to present both sides of the data, not just one side to fit an "agenda".
That is incorrect. On FF if you stop down and increase your ISO to get identical shutter speed the quality should also be very comparable, however on FF you generally have the option of opening up more than f/6.5. With this camera the absolute best you can get in equivalent overall quality is an f/6.5 equivalent on FF.
@@TechnoBabble I think that slightly flatters the FF as, built into that argument is the assumption that the absolute noise level (in electrons) is independent of the photosite area. This is likely to be wrong. If you look at the specifications for individual photo detectors (for which the data is available) the noise increases approximately as the square root of the area of the detector and for equal lumens/sq.m the S/N improves as the square-root of the detector area rather than linearly as assumed above. If one assumes the square root relationship holds good in the cameras then the advantage for the larger sensor is about half the number of stops suggested by the first argument. My guess is the truth lies somewhere between these two.
Thanks for mentioning the equivalent apertures with the crop factor included!!
I don't understand why buffering is still an issue in cameras. Memory is dirt cheap so why not have a 8 or even a 16 GB cache to hold pictures while the camera writes to the SD card? Heck just offer the option to shove a M.2 drive in the camera as an internal drive with a USB C port/wifi to export.
Matthew Connor exactly the buffer is the cache, it’s writes way faster than an sd card
m.2 is very small yes, but not small enough to not be too big of a wasted bulk for those who are not shoving an m.2 down their camera, which with little doubt, would be the mayority.
My guess is that they use the minimum power design that gives them a decent performance. Anything too high spec would drain the battery too fast.
Cache isn't cheap or easy bud. Guess what, the L1 cache on your home computer is still measured in Kilobytes
I received mine a couple a days ago and it is incredibly sharp and fast and the only thing that is missing is the ability to get shallow depth of field and ultra wide angle shots. It appears to struggle a bit with close up focusing at 600mm but the hit rate is almost 100% shooting surfing at 600mm. Serious photographers will still need a interchangeable lens camera around the house for those ultra wide angle and shallow dept of field shots but you will only need a couple of lens for those specialty shots and not a expensive body. There is no Bokeh unless you are super close and zoomed in to 500mm. The only way to get separation for a portrait would be to use off camera flash with a high shutter speed. Good news is you can sync flash at full power at 1/4000 sec.
funny I'm the opposite can't stand Bokeh (maybe on occasion for head shot) and loss of background depth of field clarity
Thanks for the info! The lack of bokeh is a deal killer for me. Doh! Otherwise this looks like an awesome grab-and-go camera. I was thinking about getting it for travel/vacations so I don't have to deal with a body and a bunch of lenses
@@brois841 You'll never get shallow depth of field with a point and shoot. If you need that capability, look into APS-C or larger.
The Metal Butcher, I've actually learned a lot about photography since that comment and wouldn't buy this camera. I currently shoot with the Fuji X-T3 and enjoying it very much :)
Well done Justin, hope to see more of you.
I like the attitude a lot. ;)
1:55 "even the A6500 doesn't have a headphone jack" and they show a pic of the Canon M5. 🤔
Still a limited articulating screen. When are they going to listen?
...and still shit touch functionality
Yeah, I just don't get it. Is this a difficult thing to engineer?
What for? I don't think anyone who buys this camera will be doing astro photography.
Majd Fayad baby, it could be.
Robby Huang my understanding is that committed to using the screen they have now until they run out. Hopefully the next big 6000 series has the flip up/out screen.
Sony is killing it in specs. Still, I prefer my 80D, but kind of envy of the technological speed advance on the sony and panasonic video features.
Excellent review. Great job Justin! Thanks especially for mentioning the long write time. It's an issue that most reviewers miss, but it's the one real drawback I have found to Sony mirrorless cameras that has a real world impact on shooting. Overall looks like a camera that I will recommend to people seeking simplicity along with power, beauty and long reach in their photography and video.
Actually i like this video more than the usual of tony, it's have a better/fast pase, make it more enterting and alsorigth to the point.
Let Justin do more review. Please
When shooting fast action, do it in short bursts so that the buffer fills up less often.
The image was sharp even at 600mm, not just at 135mm.
Justin, Considering the cost of everything in NYC I hope Tony gave you an expenance account or at least some spending money.
I would like you to do more reviews on cameras and could you please do a walkaround the studio and post it. Many of us would like to see the how you produce the Thursday show and YOU and TONY should write a book on video editing (I would buy it.)
I don't know if you believe in coincidence but here a three for you and team Northrup.
1) You and I have the same last name.
2) I worked at Northrop Aircraft for 10 years (Northrop Spelled with a "O" not a "U")
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So nice to see Justin doing a video
This camera isn't something I'd be interested in, but you did a nice job presenting it. Thumbs up Justin.
A very balanced and consistent review. Thank you.
In wildlife photography it outperforms the 7D mk II (paired with the 100-400 L mk II) in terms of the framerate, the shadows and often the af accuracy. ...and it‘s much lighter, handier and cheaper.
I am not at all interested in this cameara, but Justin is so chill that I just had to watch it. :) Nice job, Justin.
You've got a great voice for reviews! And you managed to cramp a lot of information into 7 minutes. Good job!
Cram (cramp???)
Thanks for the review but please the sound in some parts of the video really not useable, just use mic to capture your sound without all the noise from the background!!!
Justin should be your official camera reviewer... hope you start your own channel...
Justin actually did well 💪🏾
I think the 600mm shot is super sharp...
Great review Justin
Thanks Justin! Perfect demonstration and review! You should make more of these...
Well done, Justin!
Very nice review, Justin, thank you.
Thanks, Justin. Good subject matter. It looked good even at 600mm once focused.
Paring this up with Sony a99II, seems like an unusual but fun thing to do. a99II and RX10 IV could compliment each other pretty well. If you need fast primes, resolution and low light a99II got you covered and it is fairly fast shooter with good AF in its own right. RX10 IV had decent image quality of quite a few action shoots, excellent travel camera and for casual soothing, plus with fixed zoom lens and all the stuff inside could be again unusual but fan pair. lol Certainly more a affordable than going for a9 and a7rII or something like that, which is a really nice pair.
I've got the RX10 mk2 and mk3 primarily for recording interviews and b-roll. I've got an FS5 and FS7 mk2, but started realizing that people often get nervous when you've got a big camera rig five feet in front of them. These smaller cameras are better suited for that task. I also use the RX10 mk3 for hiking photography since it's got the massive zoom lens. My biggest gripe with it was the slow and inconsistent AF, so I'm wondering if the mk4 would be a vast improvement - though it looks like it still hunts in the 600mm focal length.
Says the a6500 doesn't have a headphone jack while showing a photo of a canon m series camera.. Nice red circle, bro.
D Mac I was about to say that. That's an M5 camera he showed!
Fire Jason!!!
It's an M5
Man ya'll got sharp eyes... I reviewed this before Justin published it and didn't even notice! Well either way, the M5 and a6500 *both* lack headphone jacks :D
Yep, if the A6500 had a headphone jack I probably would never have bought the FS5! Excessive way to solve a problem but hey.. it worked! :)
Good job Justin..you really made an easy to understand review
Nice one Justin! Enjoyable to watch through-out.
Justin killing it on the review!
Nice review, but I sure hope their jazz playing has improved since 2017.
Justin you're excellent at these reviews!
I became a big fan of the RX10 series a few years ago for a do-it-all travel camera. But, I don't plan to upgrade from my RX10 III to the RX10 IV.
I've got the G7 alright I am happy about it, great camera for the money
Great job, Justin, hope to see more from you
Seems an oversight and an important oversight of this review is the effectiveness of the image stabilization, especially at full telephoto? The previous version of this camera didn't even compare close to what Olympus is doing. Has it been improved? I say this because when you were recording yourself in that jazz bar the camera moved quite a bit, and that was at the wide end.
Can you charge while using the camera?
yes
Justin i think you're doing a better job at this
Way to go Justin! Nice solo video!
I'm a bit late to the party, but... Great job Justin! Really enjoyed your review style.
Thanks for the great review Justin.
I've got the RX10 mk3 and the only disappointing thing about it has been the auto-focus. If this is as improved as it looks,
it might be time for an upgrade!
I upgraded to the mark 4 and I am thrilled with camera.
Way to go Justin. Great job.
I am thinking hard about getting one of these but just wish it had a dedicated BBF button and direction pad/joystick for AF point placement.
Apart from that longer battery life would be nice too but it is not too hard to carry a couple of spares and use a dual cell charger.
The tilt screen is still a deal breaker for me. Make it a side flip screen and I'll buy it. Until then the lumix fz2000 is my choice.
Yeah I just bought sony ..and for the life
Nice work Justin!!
Good one Justin. Enjoyed your review.
Please do a comparison test of the RX 10 IV and the Sony HX 400 V.
Looking forward to BIF tests!
hello, what is the best settings to make beautiful sports photos at night? with this camera
Great job Justin.
Great job, Justin.
Good job, Justin.
Good job Justin!
tnx justin, nice and fair and complete review
Good job, Justin!
Nice review! I am curious now as I have watched several reviews and this is the only one that I saw where there was trouble tracking the bird in flight. What AF and Focus mode were you using?
Great review!
Would love to see how it functions in low light...
Excellent review.
I love my RX10 III. I think the focus system in the IV would be better for my shooting, but the buffer issue will make me wait to upgrade. Thanks the for reveal....
Shane, although that seemed to be a big gripe, how often do you hold down the button and just let it max out? That's what people do for reviews but in the real world you press it for a second when you're trying to capture a shot.
nice review Justin
new channel name "Tony & Chelsea Northrup Oh and Justin too"
Justin, Did you test the HRF mode? Is there any improvement in HRF picture quality over the prior versions? Great review, Thanks!
Great job, Justin. An interesting camera. Funny how the video ended up with you in a bar... ;-) Thanks.
Excellent review! Thank you so much!
hi justin, nice to see you :)
1'36" : "The 35mm equivalent f-stops is 6.5 to 11" ... ? Is it?
Excellent video. Please do more like this. Also, those "musicians" in the background...lol
Touch to focus only & non- articulating screen . . unlike The Panasonic Fz2500 - where their touch screen is fully integrated with the cameras menu system. Compared to the Fz's ease of usability, the Sony is a real pain. I think this is a major point that often goes unstated in reviews.
Well done Justin! A great review. (-:
Great review, thank you. It's funny that the camera has phase detect AF and your entire jazz club end bit is out of focus!
amazing performance!
Overheat not? For long Video?
Yay Justin! Good job!
I would be interested in Tony and Chelsea's opinion on what would be considered as a next camera!
I'm shooting small 1m model yachts at approximately 100m; so 600mm lens works with cropping of the 20MP (with a drop off of quality due to the crop)
I just got into photography and the RX10iv has been a really awesome way to start but now where do you go now? Fujifilm X-H2 with 600mm lens or Sony A7R IV or v then you have more room for cropping....and so on
There's a good reason why they are doing test shots in broad day light in an open field, plus fill lights are supplied inside.
Perfact camera
GREAT GREAT video!!!!!!!
What do you guys will this camera be used for more , Vlogs ? or
If you are making 100 shots and the buffer fills up.
Is that a surprise? Why not just use the film option and press record?
Excellent review!
Hey tony. I was planning on starting my own channel soon where i go into the outback in search on all our awesome Aussie creatures. I was planning on using the gh5 with the 14-140mm lens but now I'm not shure since the rx10 mk1V has the awesome 960fps slo-mo at 720p that is a must for some of the shots i need for my UA-cam channel and with the 1 inch minimum focus distance i can get close to some of the creatures. What do you recommend? Also while I'm presenting the animal and talking about it, handling it or crouching down next to it i want a microphone that can make my voice clearly and i also want to be able to hear the camera man behind the camera if he asks me any questions about the animals. what mic do you recommend?
If you walk around with this camera, does the lens stay extended until you tell it otherwise or will it retract after a minute or ??? Thank you
Is the image stabilization identical to the RX10 lll or is it an improvement?
Super impressed with this review! So informative and to the point!! Tony would've made this a 20 minute video (no offence)
Would a better card slot fix the buffer issue? XQD?
Nice Justin!
Hi ,
Thanks for the review.
Years and months after how do you compare this camera with other rivals in the same 1"-20MP Sensor - Bridge/Superzoom?
Can you make a review comparing features, video and stills quality for:
- Canon Powershot G3 X (it's a mark II is coming?)
- Panasonic Lumix FZ1000 mark II / Leica V-Lux 5
- Panasonic Lumix FZ2000/2500 (3000/3500 soon?)
- Sony RX10 Mark IV (Mark V soon?)
Do you know if other companies like Nikon will upgrade their offer with cameras in the same range?
Like a Nikon Coolpix CX (1" sensor), or a coolpix B800 CX sensor?
Other companies see to have give up for this segment : Fuji, Pentax, Olympus...
Thanks.
Does the new sensor reduce rolling shutter in video and stills?
What compact camero do you recommend for wildlife picture, specially wild birds???
For some reason this goes for over 1000 eur on the second hand market 5 years later...
Nice review Justin =)
Okay but, what were you're camera settings?