Dear Miss Fin, thank you so much for your hard work translating this programme into English, I can't imagine how much it must control your life, but it is appreciated. This is the first time I have done anything like this but reading the comments has infuriated me and I felt I had to place my own comment. Could you please ask your followers to remember that it is a privilege for us to watch your episodes and that it does not mean they can use your site to insult the actors. I thought people posted their thoughts about the characters, not the actors, what they are saying about the actress who plays Ida is unfair and downright rude. The character had anorexia, not the actress, but these cruel comments could quite easily turn fiction into reality. We should celebrate the fact that people are different, why should we expect females on television/movies to be skinny and have no shape. Has anyone considered she may be ill or recovering from an illness or even pregnant, but to be honest she still looks as lovely as ever. If anything she should be judged by her acting skills not her body shape. She is NOT Ida and has a life outside of the television studios. The actress brought to light a serious subject that many teenage girls go through and probably saved a lot of heartache for many families by portraying it so well within the storyline. Thanks again for your conscientious work and like many others I hope you will be happy to translate the new season. Enjoy the break :)
That a boy Miska. It's not jealousy it's called intuition. Follow you gut man and make sure Elias' heart is in the right place. Your a catch and you deserve to marry someone who loves you equally. Oh and Elias you look cute in this scene.
Elias is really jealous and it starts to show too.miska could worries because it will not lost to me elias is not really in love with miska because, if he was ever when in the room he couldn't have stop kisd miska
I'm so mad they ended right there. I defiantly will be tuning in tomorrow to see how this plays out. Finally after all these months we actually get a scene I can't wait to see!
kevinbaileydbfl Seems nice- he is nice! Lari is my preference but Miska is a good guy so it is ashame he is getting mucked around whether intentional or unintentional. This is just my opinion as I don't know the future but I can't see him and Kalle hooking up because I don't see him staying on the show forever. His story only exists as a story around Elias and Lari and if they get back together will the show still keep him....I don't know, just reminds me of Lari's dad and how he disappeared off the show once he was out of Lari's life
I feel lari is now getting sucked into elias and miska games now. I was proud when he walked in to the bar and paid no attention to Elias and Miska, he has to endure that for awhile. Lari has been upfront with Miska about his feelings for Elias, remember Miska came to see him when he was living at katarina's place and asked are you over Elias also Elias knows he still has feelings for him, they kissed once, almost kissed and Sanni told Elias how broken up he was about the engagement. I feel sorry for Miska, really do but it was the most stupid move to get engaged at this stage with all this mess.
Ok the jig is up, Elias! Poor Miska! He is such a sweet guy,& doesn't play games, he's never hit Elias or bullied him, is out & proud & has totally non-threatening/ invisible parents! --So naturally, Elias wants LARI! Thankx Miss
your comment made me burst out laughing about non-threatening/ invisible parents. Taken from the wizard of oz "Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable"
Yes, it has gone from being anorexic to be a real hot air balloon. What happened? in italiano Sì, è passata dall'essere un'anoressica ad essere una vera mongolfiera. Cosa è successo?
SkyeMcLeod I don't think that is the body of the actress, I think it suppose to be Ida's body. Miss posted recently somewhere a picture of the teenage char actors & actress and on the picture she looked like usually. I think it would be reckless from the production team if they force her to lose and gain weight over and over again.
haha I wasn't saying they forced her to lose and gain! I don't know how you got that out of my comment, sweetie. I merely said we shouldn't hate on her for her weight. That is ALL. I don't think its a fake body on her either! But whatever.
SkyeMcLeod Of course we do not know what's going on in her life! The body that we see, at this moment, is what she had in January, because the parties to now, have been made about six months ago. The published photos of the guys that there will be in the fall, will have it made these days. So now she's already lost weight. What is not clear is how he can go back and forth like an accordion. Clearly, the comments are made to the character not to the actress, which I think is good. in italiano Naturalmente non sappiamo cosa sta succedendo nella sua vita! Il corpo che noi vediamo, in questo momento, è quello che lei aveva in gennaio, perché le parti di adesso, sono state fatte circa sei mesi fa. La foto pubblicata dei ragazzi che ci saranno in autunno, l'avranno fatta in questi giorni. Perciò lei è già dimagrita adesso. Quello che non è chiaro è come possa andare avanti e indietro come una fisarmonica. Chiaramente i commenti vengono fatti al personaggio non all'attrice, che secondo me è brava.
Elias, you're being way too obvoius about your feelings towards Lari! I actually feel a little sorry for Miska since he notices as well and that must suck! It's going to be interesting seeing if Lari will join them or not and what will happen if he does. :) Last but not least, I love Kalle and Lari's chemistry together. I don't know what it is but I think it always seems like Lari is acting as if he's flirting with Kalle. Perhaps that's just me reading too much into it even though I try not to. :P
Atraxii Yes, because the last look of Elias, to Lari, is almost terrified waiting for his answer. in italiano Sì, anche perché l'ultimo sguardo di Elias, verso Lari, è quasi terrorizzato in attesa della sua risposta.
Atraxii And the answer will be: now I can not stay, I'm sorry! I have to rush to get ready to go to prom with Kalle. He is the guest of honor of Katarina, because he is her primary medical. And I will be, like him, the guest of honor. See you there. After these words, Elias emits a bloodcurdling scream, as did Ida, when she saw Elias naked with Lari! in italiano E la risposta sarà: adesso non posso rimanere, mi dispiace! Devo correre a prepararmi per andare al ballo con Kalle. Lui è l'ospite d'onore di Katarina, perché è il suo medico primario. E io sarò, come lui, l'ospite d'onore. Ci vediamo lì. Dopo queste parole, Elias emette un urlo agghiacciante, come ha fatto Ida, quando ha visto Elias nudo con Lari!
I'm thinking that the following episodes would be more interesting since it shows that Elias is still much affected whenever he's about to seeing Lari. And much to that, Mishka knows it all.Hopefully, Larias will be together again.
It would be interesting to see a 'dramatic' change between all the characters ... My version: Lari turns down the invitation to 'sit' ... Miska takes Elias home, and while there they have a 'disagreement' about Elias 'old feelings' for Lari ... Miska storms off, and in the process sees Lari in the hallway. He confronts Lari, and tells him to stay away from Elias ... but (here's the twist) Miska is so upset that he attempts to 'fight' Lari, they end up on the ground where by some magic of television, and in the heat of the moment ... they look into each others eyes, and Miska reaches towards Lari, and kisses him. Of course, this is the same time Elias opens the door and sees them. ---> Elias shouts, they break apart! He screams at Miska and Lari; Miska tries to explain how it 'just happened' and it wasn't planned; that he doesn't like Lari; Elias upset storms off ending the engagement; Lari leaves, and Miska replays the 'kiss' over and over in his head ... eventually, he lies to Elias convince him to take him back; but over a short time realizes that the 'kiss' affected him more than he thought; he apologies to Lari; they become friends; and eventually they realize they have 'feelings' for each other. Elias now becomes suspicious of seeing them together, Miska falls in love with Lari, breaks off engagement with Elias, with the hope of having a 'relationship' with Lari. ........... (Now this would be a 'dramatic' change) ... LOL
hahahahahaha i couldn't stop jumping on my bed like a 7 years old saying demmmm demmm Elias is a one of a kind lol poor Miska if only he knew how to quite elias b4 the dance ... and this make me think again how can i survive this show off for 2 and half month ? * tears*
Well how inapproapriate for Elias to ask questions to Ida like that and behave like that when he know's Miska has been concerned over Larias' history. If the almost inevitable does happen, then at least Miska would hurt now rather than it be dragged out into the longer term. They say the heart never lies, but sometimes what people want isn't good for them.
When he stop kiss miska he give elias look. Ever when him and elias was at the table elias couldn't. Stop looking at lari he was so hurt elias jealous from the beginning when he see lari and Kalle together when lari was drunk and he sleep at kalle
ALISON FOLKES Yeah,Elias is jealous and it is unfair of him because he rejected Lari and decided to start dating Miska and even decided to marry him.Elias always loved Lari but he felt that Lari did not love him enough because he did not want to leave the camp because of his father.
Hey there Im very I interested in this program obviously. I'm from Australia and I just started watching this 2days ago and still watching it. But very disappointed that I could not watch the latest part of Elias part 280 etc... Just wondering if there's any chance if the show still going on or are uploading and more till the end.. thank you
WOW those two are so not ready for marriage. This is not going to be popular (especially among the ageist) but I hope Lari turns around and says look I'm not getting involved in these games. You two are engaged so sort out your own crap. Miska sort out your insecurity issues because you can't stop me from existing, go to another bar if it causing that much trouble instead of where I work all the time. Elias you have rebuffed me and told me a million times that you are with Miska so talk to your man and be honest with your feelings. Come back to me when it is sorted either way but I'm off to have some fun and bed rest with a hot doctor...but it is not going to happen
Damn right. Elias needs to sort he's shit out. He has chosen Miska so let Lari be once for all Elias. What I do think about Elias is that he jumps in bed with any guy to quickly for his age
Elias is kidding himself if he thinks he's over Lari, he can't take his eyes off him. And he was jealous and interested in the story between Kalle and Lari.
Miska isn't stupid he realizes Elias motives so instead he plays smart about the whole situation by having lari join in to see if Elias will stay loyal to him or not.
Elias is such a putz! He can't make up his mind to save his life! Frankly, I'm surprised Miska is only now detecting how distracted Elias gets when Lari is in view AND that Elias seldom seems as invested in being with Miska even when Lari is not around. Miska's a good guy (as far as we know), I wonder why he became so smitten with Elias without much encouragement. Perhaps Helsinki Homos (love that name, thanks "alwaysuseless") are in short supply - LOL - looking forward to seeing where this is going!
it never made any sense to me how such a level headed character as Miska would ask a 17 year old to marry him after only a few months together-not even sure how much time they have spent alone together. How many of us could trust someone who jumps into a relationship so quickly after a break up- somewhere in your mind you got to be thinking are they really over their ex especially as Lari has already told Miska that he is not over Elias. Part 187 says it all, you have Elias going into free fall and forgetting Miska even existed once he saw Lari, Lari telling Miska he still has feelings for Elias and Elias looking like he was about to have root canal surgery at the end when him and Miska hugged. You gotta love soaps Elias tells Miska he is not ready to get married and literally 5 seconds later is proposing to Miska himself. Yepapp alarms bells would have gone off in my head but then again love can make you become irrational.
good thinking miska. now the 3 of you together. certainly you would know if your gut feeling is true or not. now who's gonna be the 3rd wheel afterall?
I don't think that it's quite fair that some people are saying that Miska is jealous. I think that he's more worried that Elias' heart may not be fully 100% in their relationship. Miska really loves Elias and even proposed to him. But if Elias doesn't feel the same way, then perhaps Miska should let him go. I think that that is the reason why he invited Lari to sit with them.... to see if Elias and Lari are still in love with each other Miska has been a good guy throughout this whole saga. Before he got involved with Elias, he asked if Elias was over Lari so that he could step away if Elias still had feelings for Lari. Elias said that it was over. Miska helped out Lari when Lari needed help, and kept quiet about it because Lari asked him too. Miska is an all around good guy, and I think that that is why Elias may not be really in love with him.... Miska is too good. Elias likes the bad boy. ;-)
that was a good one, however i think d whole Miska story line with Elias was just a one night stand which lead to Misunderstanding.& lack of patience 1 Elias knew who he want all along but was not patience enough which is understandable cos no one is perfect 2 remember when elias got an invitation to d cinema he wished he was lari who sent it. i guess when elias sent lari away he thought lari will come back as always but was out of luck that he didn't turn up and this is where the lack of patience came in 3 i think ever since lari cm back, elisa wish they're together d problem was how could he hurt miska? knowing fully where he has been kind to him instead he prefer to anguish in pain than to be sorry to miska.
I like that Lari can see Elias and Miska kiss and it doesn't even effect him now. I like that he has grown up a little. I am still digging he and Kalle's chemistry. I hope they go there with them at least for a little bit. Elias is very young acting. Even if you are jealous you don't show your boyfriend that you are jealous of your ex. That is just mean. He either needs to get over Lari or break up with Miska because it isn't fair. Miska can find someone who will love him back the way he should be loved and not someone who is pining over someone he dumped.
I understand Ida has had things to deal with but just watched this again and Ida- really? Someone who runs off to a camp to try and get their lover back and insists for him to come home with him to live forever and is devastated when he does not, is not a serious relationship like Miska and Elias have for all of a few months so Elias should marry Miska...she really doesn't know her best friend!
I really like the gay characters in this show - Elias, Lari, Kalle and Miska. who ever be their love partner it is ok for me. Kalle is hot and good looking at his age.
AdrianPein I agree! At first I didn't take much notice of him, he was just somebody who was nice to Lari. But now especially after I watched some of his older scenes I really like him as a character! :)
AdrianPein what aquarius mean he is hot and good looking at his age he never say he is old. for me Kalle at his 30+ something he look 20+ something to me.
rocketpit101 he is not dating teenager. it is only the work or idea of Janne to push Lari to Kalle, and Kalle thought Lari had a crush on him. what Lari intention is - it is a friendly date because Kalle is doing good for him and we all know that Lari still inlove with Elias. for me it is not bad if someone at his 30+ dating 18 year old as long as they like each other. i like older than me and people had different taste when it comes to like someone.
It is not just a matter of age difference, it's a matter of Laria being a teenager. I wouldn't mind if he was a 20 something dating a 40 year old. Plus Lari is living with Kalle and feels like he owns him something because Kalle helped him when he was in the hardest period of his life, which creates a power imbalance that makes their relationship even more creepy if Kalle were to act on his feelings.
Don't test things you already know the results of. Needing people to love you as much as you love them is part ego and part wishful thinking; by no means am I saying it's unreasonable to want or even need that, but it's unrealistic.
I can see where Miska is coming from but he has to think about Lari being Elias' first love and feelings for someone like that don't just go away. I think he's exaggerating like Ida said. I find it kinda cruel how he asked Lari to stay especially since it breaks his heart when he sees the guy he loves be in love with another guy. Elias loves Miska and instead of testing how much Elias likes Lari he should distract Elias from Lari and keep their 'love games' away from him since it makes Lari jealous.
When you fall deeply in love for the first time you never lose that connection with your beloved, even if it doesn't work out. Elias and Lari need to get it out in the open and deal with it, with Miska present for the conversation. Of course that would not be melodrama so it's not going to happen.
I agree completely. But they will have to do it yourself, without Miska. in italiano Sono perfettamente d'accordo. Ma dovranno farlo da soli, senza Miska.
Well it looks like Miska and Elias are coming to their inevitable end. It wont happen real soon, but clearly the balls in play. For sure, Miska deserves better then whats about to happen. Miska is a smart guy, he knows what hes doing. I'm hoping that he wont let Elias go without a fight ( Don't mean fist fight ). I hope that he at least fights for his man. I personally have come to like the two together, not really ready to see them break up. I think that it would be great if Lari sees that he's not ready for Elias right now and rejects any move Elias makes on him. I think that Lari and Kalle actually gets together to throw more love fuel into the fire. That would really give Elias something to worry about. My real concern is how the writers are going deal with Miska. I just hope that they don't trash him or make him out to be the bad guy. I'm really looking forward to seeing what kind of man Miska is. My fingers are crossed for him. He's really one of the good guys !
Miska is not that smart if he asks someone he has only been dating a short time to marry him- or does that make him a hopeless romantic. I think it is more Elias is not ready for Lari now as he plays too many games with both Miska and Lari- he proposes to Miska seconds after he was talking about dumping him and you bet he hasn't told Miska him and Lari kissed on his birthday or that he has stolen money- all that honesty makes for a great marriage. I don't mind if Lari ends up with Elias or Kalle now but I really have no interest in Elias and Miska together...sorry
Jo George if elias was really in love with miska.when lari was in the room he would pay attention to miska and dont lari and kalle friendship bring him so much when ever miska and elias together and he see lari is attention going to lari now misks and ilda see. You can see when elias was kiss miska at mosse and he see lari he stop kissing miska
Miska is a cool guy, a good guy, trusting but smart is not the first word that comes to mind in my opinion. He asked a 17 year old to marry him after only a few months...when they slept together it was seconds after Elias had just been to get Lari to come back. Elias mobile goes off "I'm going to the library" then runs off to see Lari, would you buy that excuse? Lari turns up at Katarina's and Elias forgets Miska is alive....I'm just going to go with he is a nice guy and doesn't deserved to be jerked around by Elias.
Oh my this is the beginning towards the end for Miska & Elias l can feel it & see it ! Just look at the sadness on Miska Face ! He knows it's coming Bugger now l feel sad now ! Wanted to Learn more of Miska & his Family! ( the writers are Jerks (sorry)it could have been so much MORE.
People had different taste. i read some comment at part 218. some people called Kalle a Pedophile, they feel disgusting if someone older dating younger. I think this people who feel this disgusting things don't like older people they preferred younger so it's mean they had this pedophile issue in them self. This is only my observation, cause you feel disgusting if younger dating or liking older. for me pedophile are those older people take advantage and molesting children below 15 years old. Kalle still hot and young looking and he never take advantage or molesting Lari. it is not the age matter if two people in love with each other.
Wait whattt happened to Ida?! What? How did she get so.. Fat? Not saying it's a bad thing.. Just kinda surprised I guess? I haven't seen her in ages...
Does anyone make it that obvious in real life...it just a soap Probably only some of the English fans will understand this but loving the Roy Cropper bag!!!!!!!!!!!
you all are blind. Yeah Miska and Elias could of had potential but Elias never stopped loving lari. I know we will be getting our Larias back. might take of scars and pain but that will be our happy ending. at least I think so but only time will tell.
I do not like the attitude of Elias, because I understand that he wants to Lari, but it is wrong what he does. I bet the love of Elias and Lari, but not to hurt others.
I like all these characters, but I look forward to seeing them at their best again, because right now they're...not. Miska is sickeningly cute (I'm with Elias--puke), Elias is coming across as a childish twerp (choose someone, damn it!) and Kalle and Lari aren't doing anything but pining. Whoever winds up with whoever, I think this part of the story has peaked, and the writers clearly know it since they're getting Miska to force things to a head. That's not a complaint, since I've been totally involved; I just mean it's time to move on, and yay to the writers for knowing it. Thanks as always for the upload MissFinn!
I feel so bad for Miska... He doesn't deserve that. Elias is starting to annoy me cos he can't be honest with Miska... And he sucks at keeping his feelings towards Lari a secret. He's so obvious. I'm not the biggest fan of Miska but Elias is not fare to him. Made your f*cking mind already, Elias.
Elias is so jealous by now to lose all control. Say in front of Miska, without the slightest restraint, that he thinks Lari and Kalle are together, it really is the height! Miska indeed, right now, is so shaken by talking about this with Ida. Which both due to the usual stupidity, either due to the fat that lining her eyes, does not see what you could see even a blind man. in italiano Elias è talmente geloso da perdere ormai completamente il controllo. Dire davanti a Miska, senza il minimo ritegno, che lui pensa che Lari e Kalle stanno assieme, è veramente il colmo! Infatti Miska, adesso, è talmente scosso da parlarne con Ida. La quale sia per la consueta stupidità, sia per il lardo che fodera i suoi occhi, non vede quello che potrebbe vedere anche un orbo.
Luigi C No, I do not think Lari would something like that. He loves Elias too, to see him in this pitiable state, even if Elias deserves it after everything he has done to him. I think that, in Lari, would be enough to have him back for himself as soon as possible. in italiano No, non credo che Lari vorrebbe una cosa del genere. Lui ama troppo Elias, per vederlo in questo stato pietoso, anche se Elias lo meriterebbe, dopo tutto quello che gli ha fatto. Penso che a Lari basterebbe riaverlo per sé il più presto possibile.
isapostolos I totally agree.The point that seems to be missed is that Lari has already made it clear to Miska that he still has feelings for Elias when Miska went to see Lari at Katarina's house. Elias knows how Lari feels about him when they kissed and almost kissed etc it is Elias who keeps constantly telling Lari (but I think more to himself) that he is with Miska, damn he even knew how upset Lari was when he got engaged as Sanni told him. It is NOT Lari playing games here. Lari did not tell Elias and Miska to get engaged so young and after only a few months, Lari does not tell Miska and Elias to keep coming to the bar where he works and keep kissing in front of him (is the Moose the only bar in town?). It seems to me that Elias has a little more growing up to do as of the moment Lari pays no attention to this circus he gets jealous. Either declare your feelings Elias or leave Lari alone
adoro quando i due sono gelosi, peccato che la soap andrà in vacanza, e non possiamo seguirli! ma dato che amo le soap tedesche, mi consolo con l'inizio di una nuova storia gay, dove recitano due ragazzi bellissimi, uno di loro gay anche nella vita!
oh no that what you call being invesable miska elias don't love, he try but the hart is strong than the month,frist he is jeloush of kaille and lari did you see the look if eyes could kill kaille would disapair in a hart beat and the kisses are forse. now he is seeing what he is mising and afraid someone eles get it. and miska what exacly you are trying it might just blow up in your face.beause you are seeing everything and you know what will happen next
I'm thinking that the following episodes would be more interesting since it shows that Elias is still much affected whenever he's about to seeing Lari. And much to that, Mishka knows it all.Hopefully, Larias will be together again.
Probably yes, but when? The authors seem to want to keep us waiting until we have a white beard! in italiano Probabilmente sì, ma quando? Gli autori sembra che vogliano farci aspettare fino a quando avremo la barba bianca!
I think Elias said it perfectly to Lari before they started dating..."you can only lie to yourself for so long"- now take your own advise Elias
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I agree completely!
Dear Miss Fin, thank you so much for your hard work translating this programme into English, I can't imagine how much it must control your life, but it is appreciated. This is the first time I have done anything like this but reading the comments has infuriated me and I felt I had to place my own comment.
Could you please ask your followers to remember that it is a privilege for us to watch your episodes and that it does not mean they can use your site to insult the actors. I thought people posted their thoughts about the characters, not the actors, what they are saying about the actress who plays Ida is unfair and downright rude. The character had anorexia, not the actress, but these cruel comments could quite easily turn fiction into reality.
We should celebrate the fact that people are different, why should we expect females on television/movies to be skinny and have no shape. Has anyone considered she may be ill or recovering from an illness or even pregnant, but to be honest she still looks as lovely as ever. If anything she should be judged by her acting skills not her body shape. She is NOT Ida and has a life outside of the television studios. The actress brought to light a serious subject that many teenage girls go through and probably saved a lot of heartache for many families by portraying it so well within the storyline.
Thanks again for your conscientious work and like many others I hope you will be happy to translate the new season. Enjoy the break :)
That a boy Miska. It's not jealousy it's called intuition. Follow you gut man and make sure Elias' heart is in the right place. Your a catch and you deserve to marry someone who loves you equally.
Oh and Elias you look cute in this scene.
Elias is really jealous and it starts to show too.miska could worries because it will not lost to me elias is not really in love with miska because, if he was ever when in the room he couldn't have stop kisd miska
Kiitos! :-) for all the work u do for us to be able to watch this series!
I'm so mad they ended right there. I defiantly will be tuning in tomorrow to see how this plays out. Finally after all these months we actually get a scene I can't wait to see!
A smart move by Miska. By tempting fate he will know if Elias really prefers him over Lari. If he loses him, it better be sooner than later
Poor Miska
Was not even reading the subtitles at one point
This was a car crash waiting to happen
a slow motion car wreck at that :(
kevinbaileydbfl lol at 2:50 that noise was the sound of the penny dropping
Jo George a penny dropping is never good,miska seems so nice too..maybe he and kale can hook up :)
kevinbaileydbfl Seems nice- he is nice! Lari is my preference but Miska is a good guy so it is ashame he is getting mucked around whether intentional or unintentional. This is just my opinion as I don't know the future but I can't see him and Kalle hooking up because I don't see him staying on the show forever. His story only exists as a story around Elias and Lari and if they get back together will the show still keep him....I don't know, just reminds me of Lari's dad and how he disappeared off the show once he was out of Lari's life
It's sooooo obvious that Elias is still in love with Lari !! :D
I feel lari is now getting sucked into elias and miska games now. I was proud when he walked in to the bar and paid no attention to Elias and Miska, he has to endure that for awhile. Lari has been upfront with Miska about his feelings for Elias, remember Miska came to see him when he was living at katarina's place and asked are you over Elias also Elias knows he still has feelings for him, they kissed once, almost kissed and Sanni told Elias how broken up he was about the engagement. I feel sorry for Miska, really do but it was the most stupid move to get engaged at this stage with all this mess.
Ok the jig is up, Elias! Poor Miska! He is such a sweet guy,& doesn't play games, he's never hit Elias or bullied him, is out & proud & has totally non-threatening/ invisible parents! --So naturally, Elias wants LARI! Thankx Miss
your comment made me burst out laughing about non-threatening/ invisible parents. Taken from the wizard of oz "Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable"
Good point! And the Soap has never been written that doesn't leave the audience frustrated in at least SOME way lol
Elias se vuelve loco, cada vez que se encuentra con Lari
Apparently Ida got over her anorexia problems.
Yes, it has gone from being anorexic to be a real hot air balloon. What happened?
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Sì, è passata dall'essere un'anoressica ad essere una vera mongolfiera. Cosa è successo?
isapostolos Aww -please don't be so hard on the actress playing Ida. She may have gained a little but we don't know what's going on in her life.
SkyeMcLeod I don't think that is the body of the actress, I think it suppose to be Ida's body. Miss posted recently somewhere a picture of the teenage char actors & actress and on the picture she looked like usually. I think it would be reckless from the production team if they force her to lose and gain weight over and over again.
haha I wasn't saying they forced her to lose and gain! I don't know how you got that out of my comment, sweetie. I merely said we shouldn't hate on her for her weight. That is ALL. I don't think its a fake body on her either! But whatever.
SkyeMcLeod Of course we do not know what's going on in her life! The body that we see, at this moment, is what she had in January, because the parties to now, have been made about six months ago. The published photos of the guys that there will be in the fall, will have it made these days. So now she's already lost weight. What is not clear is how he can go back and forth like an accordion. Clearly, the comments are made to the character not to the actress, which I think is good.
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Naturalmente non sappiamo cosa sta succedendo nella sua vita! Il corpo che noi vediamo, in questo momento, è quello che lei aveva in gennaio, perché le parti di adesso, sono state fatte circa sei mesi fa. La foto pubblicata dei ragazzi che ci saranno in autunno, l'avranno fatta in questi giorni. Perciò lei è già dimagrita adesso. Quello che non è chiaro è come possa andare avanti e indietro come una fisarmonica. Chiaramente i commenti vengono fatti al personaggio non all'attrice, che secondo me è brava.
It's great to see Ida started to eat!
A hungry Ida is very mean, but a healthy one is a good friend
Elias, you're being way too obvoius about your feelings towards Lari! I actually feel a little sorry for Miska since he notices as well and that must suck! It's going to be interesting seeing if Lari will join them or not and what will happen if he does. :) Last but not least, I love Kalle and Lari's chemistry together. I don't know what it is but I think it always seems like Lari is acting as if he's flirting with Kalle. Perhaps that's just me reading too much into it even though I try not to. :P
i wish lari could say to miska sorry i got plans to make elias think he's on a date with kalle that's why he's on d rush lol
Yeah, I wouldn't mind that either. It would be interesting seeing how Elias would react to that. :D
Atraxii Yes, because the last look of Elias, to Lari, is almost terrified waiting for his answer.
in italiano
Sì, anche perché l'ultimo sguardo di Elias, verso Lari, è quasi terrorizzato in attesa della sua risposta.
Definitely, looking forward to what the answer will be. :)
Atraxii And the answer will be: now I can not stay, I'm sorry! I have to rush to get ready to go to prom with Kalle. He is the guest of honor of Katarina, because he is her primary medical. And I will be, like him, the guest of honor. See you there. After these words, Elias emits a bloodcurdling scream, as did Ida, when she saw Elias naked with Lari!
in italiano
E la risposta sarà: adesso non posso rimanere, mi dispiace! Devo correre a prepararmi per andare al ballo con Kalle. Lui è l'ospite d'onore di Katarina, perché è il suo medico primario. E io sarò, come lui, l'ospite d'onore. Ci vediamo lì. Dopo queste parole, Elias emette un urlo agghiacciante, come ha fatto Ida, quando ha visto Elias nudo con Lari!
I love watching Elias squirm.
I'm thinking that the following episodes would be more interesting since it shows that Elias is still much affected whenever he's about to seeing Lari. And much to that, Mishka knows it all.Hopefully, Larias will be together again.
The face of Elias, whawhawha what did youuu say???🎶 XD
It would be interesting to see a 'dramatic' change between all the characters ... My version: Lari turns down the invitation to 'sit' ... Miska takes Elias home, and while there they have a 'disagreement' about Elias 'old feelings' for Lari ... Miska storms off, and in the process sees Lari in the hallway. He confronts Lari, and tells him to stay away from Elias ... but (here's the twist) Miska is so upset that he attempts to 'fight' Lari, they end up on the ground where by some magic of television, and in the heat of the moment ... they look into each others eyes, and Miska reaches towards Lari, and kisses him. Of course, this is the same time Elias opens the door and sees them. ---> Elias shouts, they break apart! He screams at Miska and Lari; Miska tries to explain how it 'just happened' and it wasn't planned; that he doesn't like Lari; Elias upset storms off ending the engagement; Lari leaves, and Miska replays the 'kiss' over and over in his head ... eventually, he lies to Elias convince him to take him back; but over a short time realizes that the 'kiss' affected him more than he thought; he apologies to Lari; they become friends; and eventually they realize they have 'feelings' for each other. Elias now becomes suspicious of seeing them together, Miska falls in love with Lari, breaks off engagement with Elias, with the hope of having a 'relationship' with Lari. ........... (Now this would be a 'dramatic' change) ... LOL
This getting painful to watch..the longing and stares between Elias and Lari
hahahahahaha i couldn't stop jumping on my bed like a 7 years old saying demmmm demmm Elias is a one of a kind lol poor Miska if only he knew how to quite elias b4 the dance ... and this make me think again how can i survive this show off for 2 and half month ? * tears*
I know..... >.>''' gonna be painful to wait...
Elias and Lari are totally getting back together!!! no other way pls!
Well how inapproapriate for Elias to ask questions to Ida like that and behave like that when he know's Miska has been concerned over Larias' history. If the almost inevitable does happen, then at least Miska would hurt now rather than it be dragged out into the longer term. They say the heart never lies, but sometimes what people want isn't good for them.
OMG! You need a Flamethrower to cut threw all the Tention between Lari, Elia's, Miska, & Kalle! Lol
Elias is so selfish.Always choosing to kiss Miska in the full glare of Lari yet he is jealous when Lari and Kalle are only just talking.
When he stop kiss miska he give elias look. Ever when him and elias was at the table elias couldn't. Stop looking at lari he was so hurt elias jealous from the beginning when he see lari and Kalle together when lari was drunk and he sleep at kalle
ALISON FOLKES Yeah,Elias is jealous and it is unfair of him because he rejected Lari and decided to start dating Miska and even decided to marry him.Elias always loved Lari but he felt that Lari did not love him enough because he did not want to leave the camp because of his father.
Hey there Im very I interested in this program obviously. I'm from Australia and I just started watching this 2days ago and still watching it. But very disappointed that I could not watch the latest part of Elias part 280 etc... Just wondering if there's any chance if the show still going on or are uploading and more till the end.. thank you
WOW those two are so not ready for marriage. This is not going to be popular (especially among the ageist) but I hope Lari turns around and says look I'm not getting involved in these games. You two are engaged so sort out your own crap. Miska sort out your insecurity issues because you can't stop me from existing, go to another bar if it causing that much trouble instead of where I work all the time. Elias you have rebuffed me and told me a million times that you are with Miska so talk to your man and be honest with your feelings. Come back to me when it is sorted either way but I'm off to have some fun and bed rest with a hot doctor...but it is not going to happen
Damn right. Elias needs to sort he's shit out. He has chosen Miska so let Lari be once for all Elias. What I do think about Elias is that he jumps in bed with any guy to quickly for his age
Elias is kidding himself if he thinks he's over Lari, he can't take his eyes off him. And he was jealous and interested in the story between Kalle and Lari.
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Miska isn't stupid he realizes Elias motives so instead he plays smart about the whole situation by having lari join in to see if Elias will stay loyal to him or not.
Elias is such a putz! He can't make up his mind to save his life! Frankly, I'm surprised Miska is only now detecting how distracted Elias gets when Lari is in view AND that Elias seldom seems as invested in being with Miska even when Lari is not around. Miska's a good guy (as far as we know), I wonder why he became so smitten with Elias without much encouragement. Perhaps Helsinki Homos (love that name, thanks "alwaysuseless") are in short supply - LOL - looking forward to seeing where this is going!
it never made any sense to me how such a level headed character as Miska would ask a 17 year old to marry him after only a few months together-not even sure how much time they have spent alone together. How many of us could trust someone who jumps into a relationship so quickly after a break up- somewhere in your mind you got to be thinking are they really over their ex especially as Lari has already told Miska that he is not over Elias. Part 187 says it all, you have Elias going into free fall and forgetting Miska even existed once he saw Lari, Lari telling Miska he still has feelings for Elias and Elias looking like he was about to have root canal surgery at the end when him and Miska hugged. You gotta love soaps Elias tells Miska he is not ready to get married and literally 5 seconds later is proposing to Miska himself. Yepapp alarms bells would have gone off in my head but then again love can make you become irrational.
Omg what the hell happened to Ida?
good thinking miska. now the 3 of you together. certainly you would know if your gut feeling is true or not. now who's gonna be the 3rd wheel afterall?
I don't think that it's quite fair that some people are saying that Miska is jealous. I think that he's more worried that Elias' heart may not be fully 100% in their relationship. Miska really loves Elias and even proposed to him. But if Elias doesn't feel the same way, then perhaps Miska should let him go. I think that that is the reason why he invited Lari to sit with them.... to see if Elias and Lari are still in love with each other
Miska has been a good guy throughout this whole saga. Before he got involved with Elias, he asked if Elias was over Lari so that he could step away if Elias still had feelings for Lari. Elias said that it was over. Miska helped out Lari when Lari needed help, and kept quiet about it because Lari asked him too. Miska is an all around good guy, and I think that that is why Elias may not be really in love with him.... Miska is too good. Elias likes the bad boy. ;-)
that was a good one, however i think d whole Miska story line with Elias was just a one night stand which lead to Misunderstanding.& lack of patience
1 Elias knew who he want all along but was not patience enough which is understandable cos no one is perfect
2 remember when elias got an invitation to d cinema he wished he was lari who sent it. i guess when elias sent lari away he thought lari will come back as always but was out of luck that he didn't turn up and this is where the lack of patience came in
3 i think ever since lari cm back, elisa wish they're together d problem was how could he hurt miska? knowing fully where he has been kind to him instead he prefer to anguish in pain than to be sorry to miska.
I like that Lari can see Elias and Miska kiss and it doesn't even effect him now. I like that he has grown up a little. I am still digging he and Kalle's chemistry. I hope they go there with them at least for a little bit. Elias is very young acting. Even if you are jealous you don't show your boyfriend that you are jealous of your ex. That is just mean. He either needs to get over Lari or break up with Miska because it isn't fair. Miska can find someone who will love him back the way he should be loved and not someone who is pining over someone he dumped.
Con tutta l'astinenza che ha, povero Elias quando Lari lo avrà !
Eh sì, e povere le doghe del letto!
;)
I really like this... ;)
I'm counting how many episodes left to get Larias back together.
I understand Ida has had things to deal with but just watched this again and Ida- really? Someone who runs off to a camp to try and get their lover back and insists for him to come home with him to live forever and is devastated when he does not, is not a serious relationship like Miska and Elias have for all of a few months so Elias should marry Miska...she really doesn't know her best friend!
Clever move Miska bring it to a head and sort it
great !!!
I seriously dont want Lari back with Elias. Lari start something with Kalle.
I really like the gay characters in this show - Elias, Lari, Kalle and Miska. who ever be their love partner it is ok for me. Kalle is hot and good looking at his age.
AdrianPein I agree! At first I didn't take much notice of him, he was just somebody who was nice to Lari. But now especially after I watched some of his older scenes I really like him as a character! :)
I love Kalle from the beginning but dating a teenager is not a good look.
AdrianPein
what aquarius mean he is hot and good looking at his age he never say he is old. for me Kalle at his 30+ something he look 20+ something to me.
rocketpit101
he is not dating teenager. it is only the work or idea of Janne to push Lari to Kalle, and Kalle thought Lari had a crush on him. what Lari intention is - it is a friendly date because Kalle is doing good for him and we all know that Lari still inlove with Elias. for me it is not bad if someone at his 30+ dating 18 year old as long as they like each other. i like older than me and people had different taste when it comes to like someone.
It is not just a matter of age difference, it's a matter of Laria being a teenager. I wouldn't mind if he was a 20 something dating a 40 year old. Plus Lari is living with Kalle and feels like he owns him something because Kalle helped him when he was in the hardest period of his life, which creates a power imbalance that makes their relationship even more creepy if Kalle were to act on his feelings.
Don't test things you already know the results of. Needing people to love you as much as you love them is part ego and part wishful thinking; by no means am I saying it's unreasonable to want or even need that, but it's unrealistic.
Good God Elias let's GAWK a little more why don't we......Smh....and not even being subtle about it either....Pfft....Smh...Miska deserves better!!!
I smell a trap for Elias.
I can see where Miska is coming from but he has to think about Lari being Elias' first love and feelings for someone like that don't just go away. I think he's exaggerating like Ida said. I find it kinda cruel how he asked Lari to stay especially since it breaks his heart when he sees the guy he loves be in love with another guy. Elias loves Miska and instead of testing how much Elias likes Lari he should distract Elias from Lari and keep their 'love games' away from him since it makes Lari jealous.
When you fall deeply in love for the first time you never lose that connection with your beloved, even if it doesn't work out. Elias and Lari need to get it out in the open and deal with it, with Miska present for the conversation. Of course that would not be melodrama so it's not going to happen.
I agree completely. But they will have to do it yourself, without Miska.
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Sono perfettamente d'accordo. Ma dovranno farlo da soli, senza Miska.
You can tell me what you want, Elias loves Lari
Well it looks like Miska and Elias are coming to their inevitable end. It wont happen real soon, but clearly the balls in play. For sure, Miska deserves better then whats about to happen. Miska is a smart guy, he knows what hes doing. I'm hoping that he wont let Elias go without a fight ( Don't mean fist fight ). I hope that he at least fights for his man. I personally have come to like the two together, not really ready to see them break up. I think that it would be great if Lari sees that he's not ready for Elias right now and rejects any move Elias makes on him. I think that Lari and Kalle actually gets together to throw more love fuel into the fire. That would really give Elias something to worry about. My real concern is how the writers are going deal with Miska. I just hope that they don't trash him or make him out to be the bad guy. I'm really looking forward to seeing what kind of man Miska is. My fingers are crossed for him. He's really one of the good guys !
Miska is not that smart if he asks someone he has only been dating a short time to marry him- or does that make him a hopeless romantic. I think it is more Elias is not ready for Lari now as he plays too many games with both Miska and Lari- he proposes to Miska seconds after he was talking about dumping him and you bet he hasn't told Miska him and Lari kissed on his birthday or that he has stolen money- all that honesty makes for a great marriage. I don't mind if Lari ends up with Elias or Kalle now but I really have no interest in Elias and Miska together...sorry
Jo George if elias was really in love with miska.when lari was in the room he would pay attention to miska and dont lari and kalle friendship bring him so much when ever miska and elias together and he see lari is attention going to lari now misks and ilda see. You can see when elias was kiss miska at mosse and he see lari he stop kissing miska
Miska is a cool guy, a good guy, trusting but smart is not the first word that comes to mind in my opinion. He asked a 17 year old to marry him after only a few months...when they slept together it was seconds after Elias had just been to get Lari to come back. Elias mobile goes off "I'm going to the library" then runs off to see Lari, would you buy that excuse? Lari turns up at Katarina's and Elias forgets Miska is alive....I'm just going to go with he is a nice guy and doesn't deserved to be jerked around by Elias.
so interesting point...
Oh my this is the beginning towards the end for Miska & Elias l can feel it & see it !
Just look at the sadness on Miska Face ! He knows it's coming Bugger now l feel sad now ! Wanted to Learn more of Miska & his Family! ( the writers are Jerks (sorry)it could have been so much MORE.
Poor Miska..but frankly speaking I love Kalle n Lari as a couple..
oliks toi muka Iidan näyttelijä vai oliko joku meikattu vaa hyvin? omg oli kyl erinäköne enne en ollu ees huomannu!
People had different taste. i read some comment at part 218. some people called Kalle a Pedophile, they feel disgusting if someone older dating younger. I think this people who feel this disgusting things don't like older people they preferred younger so it's mean they had this pedophile issue in them self. This is only my observation, cause you feel disgusting if younger dating or liking older. for me pedophile are those older people take advantage and molesting children below 15 years old. Kalle still hot and young looking and he never take advantage or molesting Lari. it is not the age matter if two people in love with each other.
Elias is too obvious lol they wait He ignores Miska to see what Lari is doing..
Wait whattt happened to Ida?! What? How did she get so.. Fat? Not saying it's a bad thing.. Just kinda surprised I guess? I haven't seen her in ages...
AdrianPein she looks pregnant
Does anyone make it that obvious in real life...it just a soap
Probably only some of the English fans will understand this but loving the Roy Cropper bag!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor Miska, but Lari and Elias are the better couple...
si esta enamorado de lary solo que elias esta con micka solo no ser lastimado como lo paso lary
you all are blind. Yeah Miska and Elias could of had potential but Elias never stopped loving lari. I know we will be getting our Larias back. might take of scars and pain but that will be our happy ending. at least I think so but only time will tell.
I do not like the attitude of Elias, because I understand that he wants to Lari, but it is wrong what he does. I bet the love of Elias and Lari, but not to hurt others.
Is Lari and Kallee together yet?
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I like all these characters, but I look forward to seeing them at their best again, because right now they're...not. Miska is sickeningly cute (I'm with Elias--puke), Elias is coming across as a childish twerp (choose someone, damn it!) and Kalle and Lari aren't doing anything but pining. Whoever winds up with whoever, I think this part of the story has peaked, and the writers clearly know it since they're getting Miska to force things to a head. That's not a complaint, since I've been totally involved; I just mean it's time to move on, and yay to the writers for knowing it.
Thanks as always for the upload MissFinn!
I feel so bad for Miska... He doesn't deserve that. Elias is starting to annoy me cos he can't be honest with Miska... And he sucks at keeping his feelings towards Lari a secret. He's so obvious.
I'm not the biggest fan of Miska but Elias is not fare to him. Made your f*cking mind already, Elias.
Elias is so jealous by now to lose all control. Say in front of Miska, without the slightest restraint, that he thinks Lari and Kalle are together, it really is the height! Miska indeed, right now, is so shaken by talking about this with Ida. Which both due to the usual stupidity, either due to the fat that lining her eyes, does not see what you could see even a blind man.
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Elias è talmente geloso da perdere ormai completamente il controllo. Dire davanti a Miska, senza il minimo ritegno, che lui pensa che Lari e Kalle stanno assieme, è veramente il colmo! Infatti Miska, adesso, è talmente scosso da parlarne con Ida. La quale sia per la consueta stupidità, sia per il lardo che fodera i suoi occhi, non vede quello che potrebbe vedere anche un orbo.
May be a little ,cold revenge to Lari ?
Luigi C No, I do not think Lari would something like that. He loves Elias too, to see him in this pitiable state, even if Elias deserves it after everything he has done to him. I think that, in Lari, would be enough to have him back for himself as soon as possible.
in italiano
No, non credo che Lari vorrebbe una cosa del genere. Lui ama troppo Elias, per vederlo in questo stato pietoso, anche se Elias lo meriterebbe, dopo tutto quello che gli ha fatto. Penso che a Lari basterebbe riaverlo per sé il più presto possibile.
isapostolos I totally agree.The point that seems to be missed is that Lari has already made it clear to Miska that he still has feelings for Elias when Miska went to see Lari at Katarina's house. Elias knows how Lari feels about him when they kissed and almost kissed etc it is Elias who keeps constantly telling Lari (but I think more to himself) that he is with Miska, damn he even knew how upset Lari was when he got engaged as Sanni told him. It is NOT Lari playing games here. Lari did not tell Elias and Miska to get engaged so young and after only a few months, Lari does not tell Miska and Elias to keep coming to the bar where he works and keep kissing in front of him (is the Moose the only bar in town?). It seems to me that Elias has a little more growing up to do as of the moment Lari pays no attention to this circus he gets jealous. Either declare your feelings Elias or leave Lari alone
Jo George I fully agree!
adoro quando i due sono gelosi, peccato che la soap andrà in vacanza, e non possiamo seguirli! ma dato che amo le soap tedesche, mi consolo con l'inizio di una nuova storia gay, dove recitano due ragazzi bellissimi, uno di loro gay anche nella vita!
Damn Ida got fat!!! And her cheeks are chubby too,like she's pregnant:0 Love how Elias keeps watching Lari's every move!
Did not recognize it was Ida. She gained weight.
is he crazy tempting fate
oh no that what you call being invesable miska elias don't love, he try but the hart is strong than the month,frist he is jeloush of kaille and lari did you see the look if eyes could kill kaille would disapair in a hart beat and the kisses are forse. now he is seeing what he is mising and afraid someone eles get it. and miska what exacly you are trying it might just blow up in your face.beause you are seeing everything and you know what will happen next
YAY IDA!!!(2)
?????!?!!!!!????
Wtf happen with ida..... XD
I'm so annoyed with Elias
Me too
ida big big girl - lari lari lathi
WTF ??!!?!?!?!
IT END LIKE THIS
Oon kattonu melkee kaikki storyt
iida on lihonu ihan vitusti :D siis oikeesti ihan pelottavan paljo
Ok jos ei
Ida is too fat, but she's fine. I don't bet much on Miska.
Elias is still a "kid" :) marriage ;) funny ;) and I don't like him now ..
I'm thinking that the following episodes would be more interesting since it shows that Elias is still much affected whenever he's about to seeing Lari. And much to that, Mishka knows it all.Hopefully, Larias will be together again.
Probably yes, but when? The authors seem to want to keep us waiting until we have a white beard!
in italiano
Probabilmente sì, ma quando? Gli autori sembra che vogliano farci aspettare fino a quando avremo la barba bianca!