Arrgggghhhh! Why did Sebastian have to lie to Lari about Elias not wanting to see him at the hospital! That made me furious!!! Thank you, EliasStory, for posting these videos and translating them into English. I'm now hopelessly addicted to this story!
What Sebastian is doing is wrong - lying to a son is faded to end badly. However, there's no reason to say he's the 'worst parent ever' or something similar to that. What he's doing is what MANY parents do - putting themselves in the middle of their children's love life. They honestly think they are doing the right thing. Sebastian has seen Elias suffering in the past and he could do nothing. I can only imagine that, in his mind, the name "Lari" means trouble and nothing else. Now that his son has finally found a good, honest and stable person (Miska must be a dream son-in-law for him), he wants to make sure nothing will ruin their relationship and harm Elias' future.
Noah Zanati Unfortunately, this is not what Elias wants! And the father, "who knows all of the child", not only should have understood, but he already knows. Elias told him many times that continues to love Lari, in spite of everything. in italiano Purtroppo, non è questo che Elias vuole! E il padre, "che conosce tutto del figlio", non solo dovrebbe averlo capito, ma lo sa già. Elias gli ha detto molte volte che continua ad amare Lari, malgrado tutto.
no...the worst parent award on this soap goes to Ikka Lari's dad, before it would have went to Ismo Kalle's dad for being violent and homophobic towards Kalle and look at them now so there is hope!
isapostolos I totally agree with you on that point. And I don't think that Elias want his father to decide things for him. I wouldn't like my father doing that either. I'm just saying that while what Sebastian doing is wrong, his attitude is very common among parents all around the world. As for what Elias really wants...Well, I want to believe it is Lari, of course. Larias Forever :D. I feel, however, that Elias' confusion when it comes to who he really wants to be with is very annoying. On a side note, I like that you post in comments both in English and Italian - I always learn one or two things of that beautiful language ;)
Jo George Agreed! I know it's a soap, but considering that we never heard again from Ilkka, it's hard to accept that he has completely let his son go just like that. Lari plays the tough guy most of the time, but we know he's pure and has a very soft heart. He still cares about and possibly misses his dad - he was his only family, after all. When I confirmed to my parents I was gay, they weren't harsh, but made clear I had to change who I am if I wanted to go on living under the same roof. I accepted their conditions and left their house some weeks later. They asked me not to call or visit them. Eventually, they gave in and looked for me. But it took almost one year. I truly hope Ilkka will come to his senses one day.
Noah Zanati that is why I like the friendship of Lari and Kalle. All most all, including Elias, have all said to Lari "at least Ikka is not bossing you anymore." Whereas I remember a scene where Lari and Kalle were watching television- I think it was a documentary about the rain forest- and Lari said I have never really been anywhere because my dad was always working. Kalle asked do you miss your dad which Lari said no then yes. Kalle then told him look at me and my dad now and not to give up hope of a reconciliation. I guess we know how hard it is really sometimes with the threat of losing your family but we also know try not to shut doors
Elias' Story yes father and son interestingly have done the most in getting Kalle and Lari closer. Elias with the secret money which Lari feels is from Kalle and Sebastian's lie and attitude to Lari which makes him just appreciates a friendly face as a port in a storm.
Lari is too trusting. He should have visited with Elias to tell him that he would honor Elias' request to stay away, just to give Elias the opportunity to speak the truth, in case it's different from what Sebastian said. But Lari, amazingly, thinks everyone is as kind & honest as he is. I can't help feeling sorry for Lari and angry at Sebastian. Sebastian isn't just ungrateful & dishonest; he doesn't have enough soul to see how cruel he's being.
Like your assessment- he should of but he has heard from Elias so many times now (he really knows how to lie) that they are over and he is in lovvvvvvvvvve with Miska and is marrying him (although you can't get married if you are gay in Finland) he needs a clear sign from Elias because no matter how sweet the scenes in the hospital were with Lari and Elias, Lari saw Miska kiss Elias in his hospital bed and he smiled too so he is kind of used to being told back off and know your place.
Jo George And no doubt if Lari stays away, Elias will misinterpret his absence, and thus the delay in their eventual reunion will continue. But at least Miska's rudeness toward Lari and Sebastian's lies will rally viewers to Lari's cause. It's certainly having that effect on me.
Jo George Not really. I only occasionally wish I could write the script. When I say what Lari should have done, I mean if he were wiser & more perceptive, this is what he would have done instead, not that his doing what would probably work better for him would make a more compelling story.
alwaysuseless well I would have aliens abduct both Lari and Elias and imprison them on their space ship together in the honeymoon room of their ship by now...so no, I probably could not do any bettereither; this is all keeping us commenting
Kalle the way you looked back at Lari before you entered Elias room, were you disappointed he was fighting or that it was over Elias? Also when you approached Lari in the canteen and asked him what he was still doing there so late it seemed to me what crossed your mind was maybe Lari was staying so late in the canteen because you had made Lari too uncomfortable to want to return home. Their friendly date should be interesting next week.
I love Elias for telling Sebastian he should be grateful for what Lari did.Sebastian should know that getting involved and trying to run Elias's life is going to be a big mistake and blow up in his face when Elias finds out about the lie.Miska already got so jealous he walked out on Elias and that will happen again if Kalle and Lari get together.Larias may have some roadblocks but they will be end game:)
Excuse me Sebastian, what part of Elias's sentence ("Tell Lari I want to see him") you didn't get? hope Elias will find out very soon about his father's lie and Miska's bitching. Cheers everyone here!
I understand that Sebastian thinks he's doing the right thing to protect Elias. You know what they say, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." Elias might get back together with Lari, he might not. Things could go great between them or go worse, but that's for Elias to go through. Sebastian lying is going to hurt Elias more than help him, it will just cause more angst with Lari and it will cause problems between father and son when Elias finds out.
just saw "Also Salatut Elämät contract has been renewed and the show will continue at least until summer 2018." YAH! so happy. I'd literally go and cry for a week if the show would stop haha...
sabinasabina2010 Sebastian has never understood anything of Elias, as, indeed, his own life! in italiano Sebastian non ha mai capito niente di Elias, come, del resto, della propria vita!
sabinasabina2010 While I don't like seeing Sebastian meddling with his son's love life, when he said "If I know my son at all", he was referring to something true. Elias wouldn't be impressed by two guys fighting for him. Elias would most likely kick their asses.
We knew sooner or later Lari & Kalle would probably hook up. Maybe Sebastian has learned manipulation & lying from Isabella. She's the queen of that. Poor Elias, he has no idea what his cute/clueless daddy just did. Miska is sweet, but also clueless. He will never take Lari's place. Gr8 SL, thankx Miss.
Woow man What Sebastian did is so bad!!! He is the father, why would someone do this? I hope elias notices this soon enough before it will be too late :(
Sebastian is the worst father figure ever, at first you didn't think first about your son at the shooting, and than you don't even listen to his demands....
Miska and Sebastian don't want Lari anywhere close to Elias even he was the one who literally saved his life. After all when Elias finds out what happened both Miska and Sebastian will be ones who'll lose Elias' respect and his trust in them. They are literally fighting a battle that's already won where Elias and Lari have an emotional bond that will always draw them together no matter what. Why fight it!
yes father and son interestingly have done the most in getting Kalle and Lari closer. Elias with the secret money which Lari feels is from Kalle and Sebastian's lie and attitude to Lari which makes him just appreciates a friendly face as a port in a storm
The only reason Lari is even possible moving on is because he doesn't think Elias wants him around, thanks to Sebastian's lie. This is going to end badly, with a lot of people being hurt in the process.
is it just me, or does it seem like there's going to be a Lari/Kalle romance? at least for a little while? since sebastian told Lari that Elias isn't interested, Lari may try to focus on Kalle now.
Yes, I think so too. I hope it won't evolve to a relationship, because it would be dragging this Elias/Lari thing for too long. But I think we will at least get a kiss or something, if not more.
Sebastian has stepped really over the mark here but...I don't want to get slammed... Elias is not entirely innocent here as all Sebastian hears is negative about Lari from Elias up until now, same with the crazy women Isabella who tried to pay off Lari. Follow my thread of thought, if all they hear is Elias saying Lari is coming between my relationship with Miska, he is messing my life up again , when most of the time since the they broke up Lari has done nothing but exist and happen to be in the same place as them (especially as it is often Miska, Elias or both turning up where he is) you going to want to protect your own- although Sebastian has taken it to an unacceptable level. Look at the way Katarina is with Lari as she saw with her own eyes how they were really together when it was good and when it was bad as Elias lived with her, and Lari too- and she has time for Lari because, as well as being a compassionate soul, she saw that they actually had good times together through all the bad.
omg I am so pissed at elias dad right now he and miska should piss of in the sun set together and leave lari and elias to it and please I so want them back together soon. thanks 4 uploading :)
Kalle and Lari are my two favourite characters in this show. But as the SL goes, it seems that sooner or later Lari and Elias will end up together. Thus, a possible Lari-Kalle affair makes me feel uneasy, because I dont want either one to be emotionally hurt in the end
good point, and the fact that they live together so if anything was to happen between Kalle and Lari and then Lari and Elias got back together it would make Lari's living situation so awkward and complex as he has no other options were to live and I doubt Sebastion would welcome him with open arms in his apartment- maybe as he is working he could get an apartment (many ifs and ands)
Now I know Elias will get back with Lari. All because Sebastian lied to Lari, telling him that Elias wants him to stay away. When Elias finds out what his father did it's going to help push him back to Lari.Elias will think that his father and Miska have been trying to deceive him. Oh man
I know what Seb did is ugly (I cried "noooo" and some four-letter words), but partly his motivation may have been to protect Elias. From Lari, you know all the hurt because of him already, and from the (from his pow) unneeded drama between Elias and his fiancé Miska, especially now when Elias is recovering and he only needs support. It's pretty reasonable, that he prefers Miska. I think there will be a thing between Lari and Kalle, but Kalle will be hurt when he realizes there's only one in Lari's heart. My guess is he'll wisely give way and might even help Lari, if things go very bad. But we'll see.
turn that around then... it is pretty reasonable that Elias would not accept Isabella because of all the hurt she did and only accept Katarina. Elias drew a line under the past and moved in with her and his dad! Sebastian is being a hypocrite and is jaded which is not healthy and he is actively interfering. When someone is in hospital if you don't want drama you don't create drama Sebastian and for that matter Miska- isn't it about all the people Elias loves rather than about the people his dad would prefer him to love at this time.
That would be the smart thing to do. But it'll probably be his explanation when Elias finally finds out - "I was just doing what was best for you". Which is pretty selfish for anyone to think that they know what's best for someone else.
according to elisa's dad saying to miska if he knows is son at all, fighting wont score miska points! seam thing goes to him too ,if thoroughly he knew his son, he up to no by now that lying wont score him one either.....
Hahn,for once a tv show that the love triangle is not between 2men and 1woman but 4men,quite refreshing,kale you are free to have a mini relationship/affair with lari as long as you allow him go back to Elias when the time comes,Miska I may hate you but you have beautiful eyes,lari before you start the mini rlsp with kalle,talk to Elias one last time,oh Sebastian what have you done,prolonging the inevitable,if it lasts more than a month will come and haunt you in the show.
Elias, Lari, Miska and Sebastian what a "quadruple", but the story does not substantially departing from that Lari and Elias recognition makes as to whether they are homosexuals, and essentially they come together and only appear after Sebastian and Miska and they also try to Elias and Lari weird about one?
I understand that Sebastian has seen Elias and Lari relationship change over time. But he shouldn't have lied like that, Elias wants to see Lari. It might lead to a reunion, it might not, but that is for Elias to choose not his father. I understand he wants to protect his son, but I think in the long run this will just hurt Elias and damage his relationship with Sebastian. And if they go the very soap route of trying to pair Lari with Kalle while Lari still hung up on Elias. Than more people are going to get hurt by Sebastian little white lie. When the boys can't deny their feelings any longer.
what!!!!! did he just lie to Lari... this lie will backfire as hard... and then this inserted closeness between Lari and Kalle blooming into a relationship, & its getting there.... almost there.... Elias you better made-up your mind, soon or else you'll lose lari forever...and it will be a no,noooooo for us the fans :(
i"m going to hurt Sebastian! Ever hear of actually respecting your son's wishes? He may think he knows what's best but it's obvious how much Lari still cares for Elias. Oh if anyone would like to read it, I"m thinking of writing a LariXElias fanfiction! I will post it to my livejournal. If anyone would want to read it when it's finished please message me!
I hope that Elias, since Lari does not arrive, ask Kalle, that is in the hospital every day, to tell Lari to go to him. Or, Kalle himself, having learned from Lari, what the Elias' father said, asks Elias if he really does not want to see Lari. So Elias would discover the falsehood of his father. in italiano Spero che Elias, visto che Lari non arriva, chieda a Kalle, che è in ospedale tutti i giorni, di dire a Lari di andare da lui. Oppure, Kalle stesso, avendo saputo da Lari, quello che il padre di Elias ha detto, chiede ad Elias se veramente non vuole più vedere Lari. Così Elias scoprirebbe la menzogna del padre.
I am so angry.........Sebastian is an idiot because when Elias finds out what his father has done, Elias will pull away from Miska and Sebastion and Elias will run willingly and rightfully into the open and loving arms of Lari!!!
I think Lari still love Elias and they need get back together like old time before and maybe they will get chance. But Elias's fiancé, miska still love him and won't let lari to see Elias. That's clear, they are serious love and over Elias for real or I don't know but I think...
Why Sebastian lies to his own son. I think Lari and Elias is coming to date and Miska will move on and date with Kalle. Then Ismo is coming to move with lari and kalle to somalia.
i don't know what miska think he is doing beause the one who cheeted on lari was you elias and not the other way arong yes they had problem and you made it worse and elias took the esay way out so what gose around come around and ass for sebastain he never like lari but that pointless beause wee don't all have to like our steep father once you got the man of your dreems he will have to accepte it even if he like it or not.
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honestly i'm over with what Sebastian did now haha.... I could get used to lari and kalle.:P I felt like Lari grew up a lot in the past few months and he deserves a nice mature man like kalle haha... where as Elias is still well a boy.
Sebastian still reminds the cuel uncaring man as always when i coms to Lari why would he lie to him lik that stmpahies of most now falling into hands of Lari who is being lied to I was one of a few who never likes Misk from start ande still don't something about him disturbs me something we are yet to uncover
Arrgggghhhh! Why did Sebastian have to lie to Lari about Elias not wanting to see him at the hospital! That made me furious!!! Thank you, EliasStory, for posting these videos and translating them into English. I'm now hopelessly addicted to this story!
Not even Lari notices himself yet but no matter what the situation once he sees and talks to Kalle he ends up with a beaming smile lately....
While Elias has two men in Miska and Lari physically fighting over him, Lari has two men in Elias and Kalle secretly in to him- interesting paradox
What Sebastian is doing is wrong - lying to a son is faded to end badly. However, there's no reason to say he's the 'worst parent ever' or something similar to that. What he's doing is what MANY parents do - putting themselves in the middle of their children's love life. They honestly think they are doing the right thing. Sebastian has seen Elias suffering in the past and he could do nothing. I can only imagine that, in his mind, the name "Lari" means trouble and nothing else. Now that his son has finally found a good, honest and stable person (Miska must be a dream son-in-law for him), he wants to make sure nothing will ruin their relationship and harm Elias' future.
Noah Zanati Unfortunately, this is not what Elias wants! And the father, "who knows all of the child", not only should have understood, but he already knows. Elias told him many times that continues to love Lari, in spite of everything.
in italiano
Purtroppo, non è questo che Elias vuole! E il padre, "che conosce tutto del figlio", non solo dovrebbe averlo capito, ma lo sa già. Elias gli ha detto molte volte che continua ad amare Lari, malgrado tutto.
no...the worst parent award on this soap goes to Ikka Lari's dad, before it would have went to Ismo Kalle's dad for being violent and homophobic towards Kalle and look at them now so there is hope!
isapostolos I totally agree with you on that point. And I don't think that Elias want his father to decide things for him. I wouldn't like my father doing that either. I'm just saying that while what Sebastian doing is wrong, his attitude is very common among parents all around the world.
As for what Elias really wants...Well, I want to believe it is Lari, of course. Larias Forever :D. I feel, however, that Elias' confusion when it comes to who he really wants to be with is very annoying.
On a side note, I like that you post in comments both in English and Italian - I always learn one or two things of that beautiful language ;)
Jo George Agreed! I know it's a soap, but considering that we never heard again from Ilkka, it's hard to accept that he has completely let his son go just like that. Lari plays the tough guy most of the time, but we know he's pure and has a very soft heart. He still cares about and possibly misses his dad - he was his only family, after all.
When I confirmed to my parents I was gay, they weren't harsh, but made clear I had to change who I am if I wanted to go on living under the same roof. I accepted their conditions and left their house some weeks later. They asked me not to call or visit them. Eventually, they gave in and looked for me. But it took almost one year. I truly hope Ilkka will come to his senses one day.
Noah Zanati that is why I like the friendship of Lari and Kalle. All most all, including Elias, have all said to Lari "at least Ikka is not bossing you anymore." Whereas I remember a scene where Lari and Kalle were watching television- I think it was a documentary about the rain forest- and Lari said I have never really been anywhere because my dad was always working. Kalle asked do you miss your dad which Lari said no then yes. Kalle then told him look at me and my dad now and not to give up hope of a reconciliation.
I guess we know how hard it is really sometimes with the threat of losing your family but we also know try not to shut doors
1:10 Elias has not made it clear who he has chosen and Miska knows that.
can't be bad, Elias having 2 really good looking guys fight over him
Elias, father is going to be slammed by Elias when he finds out what he did. . .that was a horrible bitch move if I have ever seen one. . .GOD!!!
Elias' Story like it- that some psychology there MISfin
Elias' Story yes father and son interestingly have done the most in getting Kalle and Lari closer. Elias with the secret money which Lari feels is from Kalle and Sebastian's lie and attitude to Lari which makes him just appreciates a friendly face as a port in a storm.
Lari is too trusting. He should have visited with Elias to tell him that he would honor Elias' request to stay away, just to give Elias the opportunity to speak the truth, in case it's different from what Sebastian said. But Lari, amazingly, thinks everyone is as kind & honest as he is. I can't help feeling sorry for Lari and angry at Sebastian. Sebastian isn't just ungrateful & dishonest; he doesn't have enough soul to see how cruel he's being.
Like your assessment- he should of but he has heard from Elias so many times now (he really knows how to lie) that they are over and he is in lovvvvvvvvvve with Miska and is marrying him (although you can't get married if you are gay in Finland) he needs a clear sign from Elias because no matter how sweet the scenes in the hospital were with Lari and Elias, Lari saw Miska kiss Elias in his hospital bed and he smiled too so he is kind of used to being told back off and know your place.
Jo George And no doubt if Lari stays away, Elias will misinterpret his absence, and thus the delay in their eventual reunion will continue. But at least Miska's rudeness toward Lari and Sebastian's lies will rally viewers to Lari's cause. It's certainly having that effect on me.
alwaysuseless yes...we should write the script
Jo George Not really. I only occasionally wish I could write the script. When I say what Lari should have done, I mean if he were wiser & more perceptive, this is what he would have done instead, not that his doing what would probably work better for him would make a more compelling story.
alwaysuseless well I would have aliens abduct both Lari and Elias and imprison them on their space ship together in the honeymoon room of their ship by now...so no, I probably could not do any bettereither; this is all keeping us commenting
Nice to see that Salatut Elämät have a fans around the world:) I'm Finn and i love this show!
Kalle the way you looked back at Lari before you entered Elias room, were you disappointed he was fighting or that it was over Elias? Also when you approached Lari in the canteen and asked him what he was still doing there so late it seemed to me what crossed your mind was maybe Lari was staying so late in the canteen because you had made Lari too uncomfortable to want to return home. Their friendly date should be interesting next week.
I love Elias for telling Sebastian he should be grateful for what Lari did.Sebastian should know that getting involved and trying to run Elias's life is going to be a big mistake and blow up in his face when Elias finds out about the lie.Miska already got so jealous he walked out on Elias and that will happen again if Kalle and Lari get together.Larias may have some roadblocks but they will be end game:)
Excuse me Sebastian, what part of Elias's sentence ("Tell Lari I want to see him") you didn't get? hope Elias will find out very soon about his father's lie and Miska's bitching. Cheers everyone here!
isapostolos Totally agree with you!
isapostolos he don't know what elias is feel.he just dont want lari and elias to be together so he is keep him apart. He is just like Isabelle.
I understand that Sebastian thinks he's doing the right thing to protect Elias. You know what they say, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." Elias might get back together with Lari, he might not. Things could go great between them or go worse, but that's for Elias to go through. Sebastian lying is going to hurt Elias more than help him, it will just cause more angst with Lari and it will cause problems between father and son when Elias finds out.
Thank you!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 A little bit louder for those in the back 😂😂😂
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just saw "Also Salatut Elämät contract has been renewed and the show will continue at least until summer 2018."
YAH! so happy. I'd literally go and cry for a week if the show would stop haha...
well that was one great thank you to Lari Sebastian !!!!!!!!!!
OMG! Can't belive Sebastian said that! That was so mean to Elias to say that!
My heart is torn between Kalle and Elias, I don't know if I prefere Lari & Elias or Lari & Kalle rah, this soap ... x)
Thanks for uploading the spoiler,I like this series,Greetings from Guayaquil.
That dirty Sebastian (handsome anyway,the actor)!. He is like a mother too interested the daughter will marry a good "parti'".
Sebastion says to Miska "If I know my son at all"- YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T !!!
sabinasabina2010 Sebastian has never understood anything of Elias, as, indeed, his own life!
in italiano
Sebastian non ha mai capito niente di Elias, come, del resto, della propria vita!
sabinasabina2010 While I don't like seeing Sebastian meddling with his son's love life, when he said "If I know my son at all", he was referring to something true. Elias wouldn't be impressed by two guys fighting for him. Elias would most likely kick their asses.
Noah Zanati Ha ha ha! Can you see that? Elias comes barreling down the hall with the FLYING KICK OF TWINK REVENGE!
We knew sooner or later Lari & Kalle would probably hook up. Maybe Sebastian has learned manipulation & lying from Isabella. She's the queen of that. Poor Elias, he has no idea what his cute/clueless daddy just did. Miska is sweet, but also clueless. He will never take Lari's place. Gr8 SL, thankx Miss.
Woow man What Sebastian did is so bad!!! He is the father, why would someone do this? I hope elias notices this soon enough before it will be too late :(
Thank you for the spoiler. It looks very interesting :)
Sebastian.....You are so mean! LOL
Sebastian is the worst father figure ever, at first you didn't think first about your son at the shooting, and than you don't even listen to his demands....
nearly but I think that award goes to Ikka Lari's dad
He's certainly not the worst...but rather bad. :) I never liked him, to be honest.
He looks like a mafia guy
Sabrina B Actually true. :)
Miska and Sebastian don't want Lari anywhere close to Elias even he was the one who literally saved his life. After all when Elias finds out what happened both Miska and Sebastian will be ones who'll lose Elias' respect and his trust in them. They are literally fighting a battle that's already won where Elias and Lari have an emotional bond that will always draw them together no matter what. Why fight it!
yes father and son interestingly have done the most in getting Kalle and Lari closer. Elias with the secret money which Lari feels is from Kalle and Sebastian's lie and attitude to Lari which makes him just appreciates a friendly face as a port in a storm
The only reason Lari is even possible moving on is because he doesn't think Elias wants him around, thanks to Sebastian's lie. This is going to end badly, with a lot of people being hurt in the process.
This is broke my heart, he can't even visit him :(
is it just me, or does it seem like there's going to be a Lari/Kalle romance? at least for a little while? since sebastian told Lari that Elias isn't interested, Lari may try to focus on Kalle now.
Yes, I think so too. I hope it won't evolve to a relationship, because it would be dragging this Elias/Lari thing for too long. But I think we will at least get a kiss or something, if not more.
Noooooo, Lari only feel love for Elias.
I wish guys fight about me too oh lol what a dream
Sucks that Elias' dad lied to Lari but hopefully Lari can move on a bit. Lari and Kalle should have a chance at something!
Sebastian has stepped really over the mark here but...I don't want to get slammed... Elias is not entirely innocent here as all Sebastian hears is negative about Lari from Elias up until now, same with the crazy women Isabella who tried to pay off Lari. Follow my thread of thought, if all they hear is Elias saying Lari is coming between my relationship with Miska, he is messing my life up again , when most of the time since the they broke up Lari has done nothing but exist and happen to be in the same place as them (especially as it is often Miska, Elias or both turning up where he is) you going to want to protect your own- although Sebastian has taken it to an unacceptable level. Look at the way Katarina is with Lari as she saw with her own eyes how they were really together when it was good and when it was bad as Elias lived with her, and Lari too- and she has time for Lari because, as well as being a compassionate soul, she saw that they actually had good times together through all the bad.
omg I am so pissed at elias dad right now he and miska should piss of in the sun set together and leave lari and elias to it and please I so want them back together soon. thanks 4 uploading :)
miska is here for Elias for you home
miska is here for Elias for you home
Kalle and Lari are my two favourite characters in this show. But as the SL goes, it seems that sooner or later Lari and Elias will end up together. Thus, a possible Lari-Kalle affair makes me feel uneasy, because I dont want either one to be emotionally hurt in the end
good point, and the fact that they live together so if anything was to happen between Kalle and Lari and then Lari and Elias got back together it would make Lari's living situation so awkward and complex as he has no other options were to live and I doubt Sebastion would welcome him with open arms in his apartment- maybe as he is working he could get an apartment (many ifs and ands)
ang ganda ganda naman ni Elias!. . .pinag aagawan ng mga paka gu guapong hombres. . .tsk tsk im in love! lol
I Love this show! :)
Wow pinoy fan
The charges who I love is= Sebastian, Isabella, Elias, Marianna and Ismo lol
Sebastian has to know That when elias finds out what he did him and probably miska will loose him. Thanks for the upload.
Now I know Elias will get back with Lari. All because Sebastian lied to Lari, telling him that Elias wants him to stay away. When Elias finds out what his father did it's going to help push him back to Lari.Elias will think that his father and Miska have been trying to deceive him. Oh man
I know what Seb did is ugly (I cried "noooo" and some four-letter words), but partly his motivation may have been to protect Elias. From Lari, you know all the hurt because of him already, and from the (from his pow) unneeded drama between Elias and his fiancé Miska, especially now when Elias is recovering and he only needs support. It's pretty reasonable, that he prefers Miska.
I think there will be a thing between Lari and Kalle, but Kalle will be hurt when he realizes there's only one in Lari's heart. My guess is he'll wisely give way and might even help Lari, if things go very bad. But we'll see.
turn that around then... it is pretty reasonable that Elias would not accept Isabella because of all the hurt she did and only accept Katarina. Elias drew a line under the past and moved in with her and his dad! Sebastian is being a hypocrite and is jaded which is not healthy and he is actively interfering. When someone is in hospital if you don't want drama you don't create drama Sebastian and for that matter Miska- isn't it about all the people Elias loves rather than about the people his dad would prefer him to love at this time.
That would be the smart thing to do. But it'll probably be his explanation when Elias finally finds out - "I was just doing what was best for you". Which is pretty selfish for anyone to think that they know what's best for someone else.
Up until now I had quite a bit of respect for Sebastian.
Latin style, how novel it has become the writer, as Sebastian will turn as the villain of the story?
anyone know the name of the series..? if you know me can tell by please...thanks
according to elisa's dad saying to miska if he knows is son at all, fighting wont score miska points! seam thing goes to him too ,if thoroughly he knew his son, he up to no by now that lying wont score him one either.....
Hahn,for once a tv show that the love triangle is not between 2men and 1woman but 4men,quite refreshing,kale you are free to have a mini relationship/affair with lari as long as you allow him go back to Elias when the time comes,Miska I may hate you but you have beautiful eyes,lari before you start the mini rlsp with kalle,talk to Elias one last time,oh Sebastian what have you done,prolonging the inevitable,if it lasts more than a month will come and haunt you in the show.
i think you said everything I wanted to say lol
Yeah,I still want to rant more but I'll be patient😀😀😀
No!!! These two are gonna lose Elias WHEN he finds out.
This week you're going to upload the chapters 225 and 226?
awwwwwww Kalle and Lari I love the idea of them together!!!
Lari is lucky to have a hottttttt doctor in to him..... it is what fantasies are made of
they are a train wreck certain to happen ...
😔 Mann I feel for Lari
Elias, Lari, Miska and Sebastian what a "quadruple", but the story does not substantially departing from that Lari and Elias recognition makes as to whether they are homosexuals, and essentially they come together and only appear after Sebastian and Miska and they also try to Elias and Lari weird about one?
I understand that Sebastian has seen Elias and Lari relationship change over time. But he shouldn't have lied like that, Elias wants to see Lari. It might lead to a reunion, it might not, but that is for Elias to choose not his father. I understand he wants to protect his son, but I think in the long run this will just hurt Elias and damage his relationship with Sebastian. And if they go the very soap route of trying to pair Lari with Kalle while Lari still hung up on Elias. Than more people are going to get hurt by Sebastian little white lie. When the boys can't deny their feelings any longer.
Please Please let Larias get back together and I can't believe Elias father just lied like that. Larias forever.
Sebastian, nooo.
what!!!!! did he just lie to Lari... this lie will backfire as hard... and then this inserted closeness between Lari and Kalle blooming into a relationship, & its getting there.... almost there.... Elias you better made-up your mind, soon or else you'll lose lari forever...and it will be a no,noooooo for us the fans :(
If the writers go mad, I will sue the company, they can not break the love between Lari and Elias. no and no
***** he think Elias is really happy with miska. So he is keep lari away from lari and make sure miska win is son heart
Haha classic soap opera :D
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i"m going to hurt Sebastian! Ever hear of actually respecting your son's wishes? He may think he knows what's best but it's obvious how much Lari still cares for Elias. Oh if anyone would like to read it, I"m thinking of writing a LariXElias fanfiction! I will post it to my livejournal. If anyone would want to read it when it's finished please message me!
I wiuld love to reading it
It would be a few weeks before I wrote it though. I have other fanfics I'm working on right now but when I finish it I will let you know :)
LukielsAngel I certainly want to read it. Thanks.
go for it
That is so dirty of Sebastian.
Miska, Sebastian: You are the two most evil of this story
I HATE THE DAD LIKE WHY WOULD YOU LIE
Kalle is just too damn cute. Arg
What a brick!
I hope that Elias, since Lari does not arrive, ask Kalle, that is in the hospital every day, to tell Lari to go to him. Or, Kalle himself, having learned from Lari, what the Elias' father said, asks Elias if he really does not want to see Lari. So Elias would discover the falsehood of his father.
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Spero che Elias, visto che Lari non arriva, chieda a Kalle, che è in ospedale tutti i giorni, di dire a Lari di andare da lui. Oppure, Kalle stesso, avendo saputo da Lari, quello che il padre di Elias ha detto, chiede ad Elias se veramente non vuole più vedere Lari. Così Elias scoprirebbe la menzogna del padre.
I, too, think something of that sort will happen. Or maybe Kalle won't say anything, because he himself wants Lari. Intrigue everywhere!! ;-)
Tht was a real shitty move in Sebastian’s part to lie to Lari!!! 😡😡😡😡
I still want Lari to hook up with Kalle. lol
Team Miska please thumb up
I am so angry.........Sebastian is an idiot because when Elias finds out what his father has done, Elias will pull away from Miska and Sebastion and Elias will run willingly and rightfully into the open and loving arms of Lari!!!
I think Lari still love Elias and they need get back together like old time before and maybe they will get chance. But Elias's fiancé, miska still love him and won't let lari to see Elias. That's clear, they are serious love and over Elias for real or I don't know but I think...
Sebastian, what r u doing ?!! aaagh
i am looking forward to lari and ellias getting back together but i am still hoping lari and kalle would get together first
Lari is sooo hot *-*
miska'd get out, not Lari ok :jj
two bloks fighting 'bout chick ;)
good point.
You would have thought so, but this is a soap. So the Hulk couldn't beat Robin. :))
lol
OMG, Sebastian lied!!!
i loves youuuuuu mikasssssssss
When are Lari and Kalle going to sleep together? This is taking to long lol! When are Kalle and Lari going to kiss?
Why Sebastian lies to his own son. I think Lari and Elias is coming to date and Miska will move on and date with Kalle.
Then Ismo is coming to move with lari and kalle to somalia.
i don't know what miska think he is doing beause the one who cheeted on lari was you elias and not the other way arong yes they had problem and you made it worse and elias took the esay way out so what gose around come around and ass for sebastain he never like lari but that pointless beause wee don't all have to like our steep father once you got the man of your dreems he will have to accepte it even if he like it or not.
Sebastian no!! >:(
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What the heck. He is over reacting.
Kalle is the one whio pull lari to saving
honestly i'm over with what Sebastian did now haha.... I could get used to lari and kalle.:P I felt like Lari grew up a lot in the past few months and he deserves a nice mature man like kalle haha... where as Elias is still well a boy.
Elias father. Jut lie to lari.
I never liked Sebastian but he's even worse than I thought
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Sebastian still reminds the cuel uncaring man as always when i coms to Lari why would he lie to him lik that stmpahies of most now falling into hands of Lari who is being lied to I was one of a few who never likes Misk from start ande still don't something about him disturbs me something we are yet to uncover
Uusi Suomi ja sen aiheena ovat jo nyt 3 on 3
Peli poikki on ollut aika 3 ei voi tietää että jos ei ole 90 on 26 3 ei a
Booring...😒😐😒