The Surprisingly Ancient History of Beatboxing (Vibration Bass, Inward Bass, Subharmonics)
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- #beatboxing #throatsinging #bass
Big shoutout to
@markaaaay
@swissbeatbox
@BeatboxInternational
@BunnyF1uff
@helium_beatbox
@Vocodah
@enelbbx3122
@indicatorbeatbox
@Taddl
10:25 LESGO! 🙏🏻
T the probably most aktive subscriber of David Larson :D
Taddl und David tag team incoming. namensvorschläge = Daddl with long hair, bass spamers, simping for bass, T-hair
lesgoooo
Reaction incoming 😂
11:30 damn imagine someone trains to speak inwards the same way as he can do outwards. Could do the longest rap parts without breathing.
Sounds like vocal fold abuse to me... as someone who use inward speaking regularly.
@Madox Man of Culture
You bring so much to the beatbox-community. Giving us history and explaining how a sound is actually made and work. Thank you so much!
I'm so happy this video exists
holy shit
Hi
You’re awesome. ❤️Much love to you from Denver.
OH YOU TEAAAAAAAASE "... secretly practicing and planning a big reveal..."
I CANNOT wait to hear it!
3:45 that overtone scructure, daaaamn, how?
She isn’t even trying either - crazy 🤯
amazing
7:59 the second switch. Damn so satisfying
5:43 one of my fav vibration bass of taddl ... its hit so fcking hard
same
Throat singing is how I found beatbox, that same video in 2:50 was the first throat singing video I had ever seen. I actually learned how to do it too before I was exposed to SBB
7:55 hella satisfying holy shit
Ive been trying to learn inward bass and knew it wasnt going the right way. Somehow, this video made it click. I relaxed my throat to say "yes" in a scandinavian way and felt the vibration. Infinite thanks David!
can u tell how to pronounce hey in scandinavian.
Wow, so even cavemen loved beatbox XD.
They truly discovered FIRE lmao
Wow, I didn't expect to find you here... I've been following you like 6 months ago... Big up!
Fr tho this comment is underrated
@@guillemvallsbrunat8601 That very same statement would apply to me as well lmao
@@pjijn6837 hahahahaha glad I'm not the only one :)
12:05 just wanna make sure this isnt just like, inward vocal fry (how i would describe it). the Inward bass used by beatboxers is NOT the same, and it is a really common misconception when people start learning inward bass for the first time.
thank u , was about to write the same :)
So true
Yeah I had that problem for so long. An inward vocal fry is talking low inwards(not a scientific explanation I know) where as inward bass is a much more guttural sound. It’s a growl but you inhale rather than exhale
Yeap exactly, I mentioned this in few videos of David Larson’s, don’t think he has noticed
David has addressed this in other videos
Bass stuff AND linguistics? This is heaven!
Omg I have been waiting for a David Larson routine since the first beatbox video! You have such amazing vocal control already so I know this is going to be so sick!
10:25 LET'S GOOOOOOO!!!!!!
2021
David: Shout out to my friend Pepouni, let's go!
Thank you for educating the beatbox community and everyone in between, now I have history to base one of my passions on and that's amazing, much love
Thank you so much for this video!!
I knew most of the things you talked about bc im just -that- into beatboxing but all the stuff about subharmonics i know 0 about that and its just soooo interesting to watch! Thank you for your work, it really means a lot to the beatbox community ❤️❤️❤️
For me personally beatboxing is the most organic art form that makes me feel connected to my body, my mind and the world around me, the nature around me. It really is super unique for humans and i love it so much!
it was about time, someone did a video on this topic. Great work!
Very informative and well-organized video! I love the way you analyze things
Hey man love the video but I just wanted to let you know that inward bass is different than the inhale bass you're talking about. I used to do the inhale bass as a kid cause it was fun to go really low, but after I picked up beat boxing I realized that they're different. Inward bass, if I'm not mistaken, uses only your false folds. It feels kind of like snoring but deeper in the throat and without the nose. It's supposed to be the inverse of chest bass. Hope this helps
I am learning more with you than with the beatbox community!! That is when we bring together musicality with theory!! thanks for that!!
10:25 please please please!!! another amazing artist coming to the beatbox community to show the world the next level of real music!!!
Your best ever video. Looove it. Eeeesh!
This video was so insightful and interesting. Thank you so much!
That super deep bass on stage as an intro to an routine would blow ppls mind.
I've had some idea of old the techniques but I've never seen someone being up so many good examples! Thank you
this is beautifully put, thank you for this!
I get so amped when I see you post, you upload quality my man.
Really informative video
Thnx David❤️
This was epic thanks for info🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Cannot wait to hear your first routine 🙌
Lov this concept ! Super interesting ! Keep it up
Loved this
I have been waiting for a video liek this.
thank you
Also inertia and vocodah do not use the same kind of technique as your “inward/ingressive phonation” technique that you “discovered”. Yours is more like a straight up inward version of subharmonic register, the fact that it’s like a mix of regular inward chest voice and inward vocal fry, which a lot of people mistook yours for initially is why I think this, I can do inward bass, vocodah/inertia’s variation, and inward vocal fry AND inward phonation. I can tell the difference between the four. Basically, without going into too much detail, your ingressive phonation is a type of technique which only uses the regular true vocal folds. Chest bass or fire breathing (despite you mistakenly saying that this is caused by OMLY the false vocal chords in your video on beatbox vocal bass techniques ) is caused by the EPIGLOTTIS, just the epiglottis, nothing else. I’ve seen a stroboscopy of a beatboxer’s larynx to Verify this; the doctor in the video even affirmed this himself. However, you can vocalize your chest bass, where you add your true vocal chords’ note to its oscillation too. I can do vocalized chest bass too, it’s the bass that Big Ben, colaps, and Wunknown use. The “classic” Inward bass that most people think of is simply the INWARD VERSION of CHEST BASS, not the same as ingressive phonation. Inward bass therefore uses only the epiglottis not the true vocal folds phonating inward. The thing most people still have yet to understand is that vocodah’s and inertia’s inward basses sound different than regular inward bass because theirs is VOCALIZED inward bass. If you add your inward vocals to inward bass (which is normally unvocalized in its standard form, like it’s outward variant, chest bass), you’ll get a much deeper, darker bass which is exactly the kind of inward bass inertia and vocodah use and we’re using in your examples here.the reason people get confused when we say “vocalized inward bass” is cuz they’re only thinking of the “high inward bass” when think of this. High inward bass is just adding your inward FALSETTO voice to your inward chest bass. Regular vocalized inward bass is adding your inward MODAL VOICE/CHEST VOICE on top of your inward chest bass. Basically, vocodah and inertia use vocalized inward bass as their standard inward bass that they use, which is essentially the inward version of vocalized chest bass, just as regular inward bass is the inward version of un-vocalized chest bass, or “firebreathing”, as the vocal world calls this technique. And on top of that, I’ve come to understand through interviews of vocodah explaining this and listening to helium’s tutorial on his own inward bass, d low’a inward bass is vocalized inward bass with a THIRD component thrown in as well, which is why it sounds much more water-y liquid-y and gravelly than other vocalized inward basses. I believe this extra Component is the inward oscillation of the uvula, from vocodah’s explanation in his interview with soclosetotoast (I’d be more than happy to share the link and time stamp if you wish). Helium’s on the other hand is a very special variation on its own. Basically, according to helium himself, I’ve come to learn that helium inward bass is essentially the vocalized inward bass I was mentioning earlier, but you must “cut off” all airflow as much as possible. I don’t believe it’s simply ingressive phonation since it sounds much “thicker” than yours and mine when I do it. I believe that there is still epiglottal oscillation in his, but the texture is drastically altered to a way more “drier” bass tone which can be held for FAR longer (in most videos of him using it, helium can hold his inward bass variant for like 30 SECONDS which is normally almost impossible for regular inward bass to held for that long) since it pulls in almost no air to the lungs, it’s only an inward pull which triggers the right components but does NOT let the air to the lungs like for regular inward bass and it’s other variants. I can do unvocalized inward bass, ingressive phonation, vocalized inward bass, high vocalized inward bass, and d low inward bass so I can verify most of what I’m saying through practice, but while I have not yet unlocked helium’s inward bass, I have a good friend who can and who has explained to me the mechanics and feeling of it, which I feel gives me a pretty good understanding of what it is (and the fact that I’ve watched helium’s tutorial in русский on it like 200 times lol if you ever wish to chat or exchange ideas/knowledge on beatbox vocal basses, this is a huge fascination, passion and interest of mine, both musically as a beatboxer and academically as a scholar, please feel free to let me know. I admire your knowledge and passion as well on this subject and I feel you can help us collectively as a community better understand our basses and techniques
And in case anyone who cares wants to hear a subjective-ish quality comparison between these four types of techniques I’m referring to here, I would basically differentiate them like this:
-David Larson’s “ingressive phonation” bass is smooth, sounds like the actual natural modal voice, just hitting impossible-seeming low octaves, basically the inward version of what subharmonic register (probably 2nd level) sounds like.
-inward vocal fry (like what b art, so so, and Napom use), very pop-py, much more croak-y and less smooth than David’s ingressive phonation. Basically the inward version of vocal fry. Can be hollow-sounding or more “solid” depending on how you shape your mouth and/or whether or not you hollow out your throat when doing this bass. But usually very pop-py and crackley. Neither this nor ingressive phonation are as “bass pure” or as low or thick in quality as true inward bass variations
-un-vocalized inward bass, (Markooz, tyladubya, mark martin use this), very air-y, sounds like the inward version of chest bass ( because it is)
-vocalized inward bass (vocodah, king inertia, dropical and heartzel use this variant). Sound way more dark, way more deep, way more “thick”, way more “solid”, and LESS AIR-Y than regular un vocalized inward bass. This is because the inward vocals are being added to the unvocalized inward bass, resulting in a much lower bass, just like vocalized chest bass is much more low and solid sounding than the normally much-airier chest bass. Can be done with inward falsetto for the “high vocalized inward bass”, that inertia and vocodah are also well-known for. Much more powerful, naturally louder, and “thicker” in tone than the inngressive phonation bass, because the true vocal chords are not the only things being vibrated. The epiglottis is much higher in mass than the true vocal chords and thus produces much louder and much more bass-pure tones than the true vocal chords are capable of producing
-d low inward bass-just as dark and bass-pure and solid as vocalized inward bass, but also with an added “gurgle-y” effect which sounds more water-y and grumble-y, this is due to d low’s use of the inward evil bass simulataneously with the inward bass.
-helium inward bass-much more solid than unvocalized inward bass, but much less air-y than vocalized inward bass, way more “dry” and less “bubble-y”. This is because helium’s inward bass is essentially vocalized inward bass but with the air intake to the lungs completely “shut off”, he explains this in his tutorial in Russian, but there are generously-provided English subtitles
So much to read
Thank you for taking time to explain about inward bass. Many beatboxers want to learn this sound, but it's really frustraiting to understand and takes time to master. I think this teqnicue have so much unrealised potential, even with known masters of inward bass (vocodah, inertia, d-low). I can't wait to see what beatbox community bring to us in the future.
@@onionman9563 yeah man
Dude you wrote a whole essay
You are awesome David! 💯🙌🙌
I have 2 techniques that no one uses, I have beatboxed for 15 years ( 6 avtive 9 for fun) one is a snare kick and a kick base using the uvula, creating the famous Benny benassi kick base in ( Benny Benassi - Satisfaction)
I enjoyed this video so much! So glad i found this channel
This is one of my favorite videos i ve ever seen damn
This was a banger of a content man
I highly appreciate your content keep it up bro 😃
im so glad you make videos. Good work my guy
Great Video!!! Keep up the amazing work
I'm glad you've talked about bass techniques from a bass vocalist perspective. Mechanically so many of the techniques are similar, and yet they have a bunch of different names. As another bass vocalist, it's something I think about but you spoke to it better than I could have.
Your videos are so fucking interesting. I’m so glad ur back!!
Great video! Very well-structured and informative. I enjoy videos like these, please continue to make more :)
I started watching your videos recently and I love your videos. I have learned so much about voices and how they can work.
Great video and also great recommendations!
amazing insight
Lets Go! Someone Had to do this Job! Thank you !
No matter how good your routine is we will all support you and we all believe you can make an impact in this community
Wow! You did awesome research for this video
What a fine conclusion to your journey! It was just months ago that you were making your first reaction videos on beatboxing and you were like "how did forget about something like this?" and now you pretty much quote beatbox techniques from different people like a normal beatboxer would do! Very happy to see you enjoy our community, can't wait for your take on it 🥰
I really enjoy the content you're putting out here! Hyped for more and hope you drop some routines soon :)
the Rainbow of Love video shocked me in a total positive way! I got shivers everywhere as Ken Turner went down the man-cave vibrator frequency daaaaaaamn
I’m pooping my pants I literally can’t wait to hear your routine! Can’t wait to see your progress! I fell in love with it all too and have practiced for awhile.
Interesting Video
Keep it up ♥️
14:51 Ooooh shit it's the Gun Reload sound. You got this Bro. Esh..!!😱😱🔥🔥❤💥
These videos are so fucking good and informative. Honestly if you were my history teacher id be an historian rn
And I am so ready for your subharmonic register beatbox shout out!!!❤️🔥🙏
Just saw some mongolian throat singing earlier today , also got to know about different types of overtone singing and other techniques in different continents that had been in their culture for centuries.
So u releasing this video today is great 😊
Great video keep it up 👊❤
Just wanna let you know now that a beatboxing inside joke/comedy gold is saying that vocodah is better than audical. They are the same person don’t be tricked by comments.
I was so confused at first when I saw the 2 different names
Don't spread such blasphemy
Vocodah is by far better than Audical
Actually no the beatboxer known as "vocodah" perfectly genetically reconstructed audicals throat
and then proceeded to copie his entire style and then kill his old clone to replace him with a new name spread the word amen
If you ever become a beatboxer (pleasseee dooooo) your name could be historian, just a thought, also love your videos both bass singing and beatboxing
Historian is a little cringe don't u think?
He's gonna be david with the long hair
@@xviroses beat me to it
Well done, cool Video!
Great video)
Really nice video man 👌🌝👌
13:56 queue for the highschool essay conclusion haha. That being said. I've watched your stuff for years and am a big fan. just thought it was a funny ending.
PS: Can't wait for that beatboxing track to drop. Happy new year!
I feel like you and Reeps One would have a really good lengthy discussion on this stuff
Nice vids David!
David! I've been following you for around 3 years now. Started with bass singing. Just wanted you to check out the swissbeatbox shout-out of Xureck, he used vocalised subharmonics.
big ups to u bro
subbed for the future beatbox routine.
Don't hold out on us too long.
Excellent video man. I actually found beatboxing videos by researching JD Sumner videos back when AOL dial up internet got popular. From there I found a video with Roxorloops and was blown away. I still can’t beatbox worth a crap and my first name is also David. 😆
I love this 😀
I usually dont do coments like this But I have to say that I truely Enjoy your content, all the eford and editing that you put in it, you deserv way more subs
And now please help us to give proper names to what some people in the beatbox community call evil bass or demon bass. I hate these names lol
ye demon bass sounds so cringe
@@joker-ze2tm yessssss
evil bass was named by djb3an who "invented" it
10:30 has the same hype energy as MCU’s post credit scenes.
It totally does tho
Love LovE LOVED IT!,! 💥🔥💥💥💥🔥💥🔥
Happy new year david
I'm really looking forward to hear that routine you're cooking!
Our communty has always needed more anatomical awareness, so to speak, and your channel is like...perfect.
It just has to be fresh! 🥬
Interesting video. It sounds like beatboxing's throat bass creates an effect similar to that of subharmonic singing but in a different way. I've tried following beatbox tutorials for throat bass before but still seem to have trouble with it. I've also tried following your videos on subharmonic singing, and I can kind of get it, albeit inconsistently and not very stably, despite not being much of a singer (which is really cool. BTW). With the idea that throat bass gives a subharmonic effect, I tried throat bass some more and I'm having trouble getting the kind of sound I get when trying subharmonic singing while using the throat bass technique as I understand it. And when I can make that sort of sound, I can't tell if it's because I'm actually using the throat bass technique or if the subharmonic technique is somehow coming in, perhaps differently from how it does when I purposely try for it. Would it be possible for you with your perspective on both arts to do a video that goes into some more detail about these two techniques, how they differ, and how to do them? I don't think there's much comparing and contrasting the two techniques, and I think having that would be helpful. Thanks!
such interesting content!
YEAAAAAAAA I LOVE THIS CONTENT
Bruh I started dancing to your voice at the end dancing to the rhythm of the added bass I can hear in it😂
bro i really wanna say thank u this is nuts
Your next video should be about the other side of the spectrum, well what i would think would be. Double voice (show-go) and tripple voice (susay)! Please react to "susay-tripple voice"!!!! I think it will blow your mind! I would love to see you analyze it and try to figure it out as well. I love your detailed vids man keep it up!
Can we just take a moment to appreciate this David's beauty! Absolutely gorgeous ☺
What an awesome video wtf
David is a man with culture 😌
Also would love to see you react to Kindo, he does some awesome inward bass and has a lot of breath technique if that makes sense 🤣
Could you please do a video on Chest Bass :)
I use it alot and im curious on its uses and variation :)
Hey David! Would you be able to send me dry DI tracks of you using all the different techniques at your disposal? I'd love to make a spectral analysis of them, to see what are the characteristics of each technique and to help us visualise what is really happening with the harmonics (perhaps in a video format)! If you (or anybody in comment section) are interested, PM me.
nice one :D
Hey David, been a fan for a while now and absolutely love when you post a video. I need to contact you now to figure out the differences between the 4 basses I can do. You always really help me figure out bases, thanks
so cool to know the background of these techniques while i'm headbanging to beatbox routines lmao