We went to a mega church for 12 years and never had a conversation with him or ever had him say hello to us when we passed him in the halls. We attend a church now for the last 9 years, and who was with our last church. He comes and prays for us in the hospital, calls to pray with us at home, and in his office at church. We're family to each other.
Thank you. I've been struggling with the thought of looking for a different church for a while now and who they call pastor in the church. I've met the lead pastor once at a church event. When he preaches it is from the word but I grew up in a church the "pastors actually tended to the sheep". This podcast and the one with Colin and you talked about being plugged into a good church and the 9941 got my attention. I thank you for your words, this brought some clarity to what the Lord has been laying on my heart.
After I had my baby I suffered severe post natal depression. I remember sitting in church alone, unable to speak to anyone, isolated. Everyone else was buzzing around, laughing with each other, chatting, having coffee. Not one person came over to me and sat down to see how I was. I cannot forget it, it lasted months. I was so lonely at that time. One day I took my toddler to an indoor ball play area and bumped into a woman from my church. She said sorry I can't stay and chat I'm with friends.... People can be very uncaring, especially in church.
i agree, thats what happened to me, very similar. in amish and mennonite life, youre not supposed to grieve long. because if you do its a sign to them that you dont have faith in God. it hurts. because we are just sad, it doesnt mean we dont have faith. all my love !
I'm sorry for your experience with so called church people. Please try another church or another until you feel God's presence. There are wonderful churches out there.
granger, i stumbled on your pod cast and when my husband came home from work i replayed this for him, he smiled and said he liked you a lot, he liked the message which is rare for an ex amish man, he liked that you answered the questions from all points of views and scenarios and not just 1.
Hi! Granger, I really appreciate you explaining the role of a pastor at a church. I was raised in a nondenominational church where the pastor wasn’t involved in our life. He would give the message, say hello at the end by the door and then we would see him again next Sunday. It seemed like people were in their own bubbles going through the motions. And we only had a congregation of 50 so looking back this is super strange to me. I mean, I spent 20 years around these people and knew barely anything about them! I thought this was the way it was at every church because I had nothing to compare it to. Thankfully God has showed me through his Word and through people in my life what a healthy church looks like - but it’s crazy how I never thought there was a problem. All this to say I think it’s really important what you’re talking about! Sometimes you never know until you’re exposed to a different way and that certainly was the case with me. (I later found out that some of the people at the church said it wasn’t feeding them and the pastor said it’s our own responsibility to be fed not the church and then he would essentially preach about staying loyal to the church. Just very bizarre. Glad I’m at a good church now.) Question! What would you say to someone who says a church is not feeding them spiritually? Is this a valid concern to have…or does it reflect the character of the person?
I've heard Pastor Ron in the past. It was mainly on tv. However, since you shared this video. It would be absolutely cold, insensitive and cowardly to even think that AI chat bot could possibly take on the responsibility of shepherding his flock. Not even possible! We as God's children need a pastor in a physical/spiritual/emotional/mentally to care for his sheep. That God made man in His image to take responsibility for not only his animals; but for his family and his spiritual flock in God's church❤❤
Jesus I know you will guide me. I’m overwhelmed as a single mom both of my sons are special needs and require so much from me. Jesus I need your help providing for my children so that they may have all they need. Lord I’m constantly struggling each month to pay rent and I struggle to buy groceries, for my sons I’m ashamed. Hear my prayers help me overcome these obstacles you are my strength.
I'll be praying for your children and for you to make ends meet for them both. ❤ There is no reason to be ashamed for asking someone for help. We all need help at some point in life. You should be able to get some community, state, and government help with both of your children being disabled. No, it won't be a lavish lifestyle or stake and lobster every night, but you could get enough to live and make ends meet. ❤
Please find you a good Bible believing church to get you and your boys in, and check to see if there are any support groups in your community that deal with caretakers of special needs kids.
As a disabled elderly woman, I have been unable to attend church for over 28 years. How I wish I were able to be a part of a bible teaching church. However God was able to move me deeper into His word because I was forced to be isolated. Because of this I was able to weed out so much false teaching I had received over the years. Until pastors get back to emphasizing the importance of studying the scriptures and testing all things, people will be misled by unbiblical teaching. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation, and to spread it is our mission. Come Lord Jesus is the cry of my heart.
Good morning Thank you God for this beautiful morning this morning 🌄. Merry Christmas to you and your family from me and my family here in North Carolina.... Merry Christmas to everyone this year may you all be blessed this Christmas....
AAAAAAMMMMMEEEEENNNNN!!!!! 💯 In 2008-2009, I attended a mega church in Baton Rouge. I ran into the Pastor in the store and though he was very kind and receptive, he asked me how we knew each other. That was the moment I understood!
I just left the Mennonite church they excommunicated me when my mom died during covid, I didn't go to church. I've never been a social person so going to church was always hard for me. so they shunned me. then the next year when I felt better and happier to go to church my 5 yr old daughter died. I completely broke. I never had a relationship with them personally. just dinners. not love. forced dinners and suppers. if you didn't show up for supper or cancelled or just didn't want to go, you were not a believer. currently looking for a new church where I can bond more with people, however our small town is ever so small. im left with a Baptist church, called them and it took a month for that pastor to call me back. small church only 10 people so the wait of the call was ridiculous. I have better luck calling random pastors who answer and talk to me. that's when I felt more at peace to leave the church in my heart. ill find one I can depend on.
I am so sorry for the loss of your mom and your precious child. I pray the Lord heals your heart and leads you to a church that will love you. That will walk along side you. I pray this Christmas time you the Lord is close to you . ❤
@@M-sj9fv an du ah ! husband was amish, we went mennonite. another part of my excommunication was that they didnt believe me when i said amish use real wine that they make for communion. they only use grape juice, we went to maam for communion and i was scolded because it was STRONG drink, no matter what i said they didnt believe me and thought i was lying. so they went and talked to amish and yeah after i was shunned they basically figured out i was telling the truth and tried to get me to come back. i said nope, ill find a new church, i have god you dont. we will find one :) God will provide ! an denke for that ! Gott ist die liebe!
@@Monalisa0622 thank you !!!!! the lord is very close to us, now more then ever. thank you for the kind words. its hard finding a new church when youre used to one way of living and all the rules for so long. we are blessed that my amish husbands family is very loving and supportive as well. hes shunned too from the amish and we went mennonite. so yes we learned a lot, so ill take amish rules and mennonite rules and still smile because i learned a lot and i learned even more to draw nearer to God during this period.
@@M-sj9fv my husband left the amish as well, he left and we went mennonite. was there for about 13 years till all this happened. it started off very well, went very very well. another part of what happened, is at amish family maam made wine for communion, mennonites only use grape juice. went we went for communion at amish, i was lectured for ST
I was three years no church. It was my first time behind homeplate at the ballpark. The season ticket holders left when Jeremy Camp came onstage after the game. I wept holding my two year old daughter in my arms my rambunctious 7 year old next to me. Evangelism woke me up. Now I go to church naturally. Thankful for Jesus's first and most important commandment, to love the Lord with all your heart, mind, and soul. Thankful for the open door policy. He could of said love the Lord with all your strength on Sundays between 9 and 12.
We had a really good pastor at our church and a couple weeks ago he left to go help at his family farm our church is beside its self so hopefully we can get a new pastor in there
I don't know if you're right or wrong. It's awesome food for thought, it does not strike me as wrong at first hearing. I mostly attend church online because I can't find preaching locally that compares. They do have an online pastor and we have communicated through email but he doesn't feel like my pastor. I have communicated with the head pastor and he feels like my pastor. It's a huge church and when the head pastor runs into my brother he asks how I'm doing by my name. I live 3 days drive from that church. It's hard to fathom the head pastor and preacher reads every email I've sent, tells one of the other pastors in the group to respond to me because he doesn't have the time, they're up front about that, BUT he seems out my brother, asking about me, in a way that proves he remembered my emails without betraying a confidence. It's almost scary.
Pastor Ron is an amazing man of God. He has 2 church campuses, one in California where he lives and does the majority of his preaching and one in South Carolina, where he has other pastors over that church. He recently announced the AI thing in his podcast and from what it sounded like, it was going to be able to look through his entire archive of over 30 years of preaching, to help folks find answers. I thought that idea was pretty cool, but hearing the praying bit put me off. I wouldn't have used it regardless, though. I think his churches have gotten too large, personally. Maybe he's spread himself too thin? I'm not sure of the staff under him in his churches to be able to speak to how his churches operate. I wouldn't want to attend a church where the pastor didn't know me personally. I'm so blessed to be in a church that I know my pastor, and he knows my name.
In my church we have 5 men with the title pastor (reverend or doctor) but only 1 who is called pastor and he has been the church leader for 50 years and he knows his flock (congregation). I hope everyone has a great Christmas, mine will be very low key but that's the way life is sometimes.
When I was a kid I went to his church and it started out in a little office size building and when service was done we would all grab lunch out somewhere now many years later you have to make a appointment to have a meeting with him and all the personnel touch is no more
Spot on about the role and title of pastor. And if the flock or church needs prayer, there can/should be an appointed team of prayer partners/warriors to minister. And help with the flock while still having some access to the pastor. And I don't believe that AI is inspired by God.
I'm not a believer but I know a scam artist when I see and hear 1. That's the major reason behind me never trusting religion is because it's always been a business of get a person or group rich while asking the people who may be struggling to give more
I think Scripture teaches an elder- run congregation and pastor/teacher is one of the elders. The pastor doesnt have a bigger role in decisin makinfg than any other elder and until all agree,mthey keep praying and searching Scripture. Its dangerous for a pastor to have a 'vision'?and everyone has to get on board. Tthats just another strategy thats not seen anywhere in Scripture. Thanks Granger.
I would say yes and no I can contact my pastor on text but it’s in a group with his wife in it too.. so it is not just him it would be with him and her.
Apparently you have never called a church prayer line. The first one I called was answered by an unbeliever, the second one sent a vial of olive oil. the third made an appointment to call me but never called. Judging this pastor is not fair if you can't compare him to others.
What do you do when your pastor , a woman, has compassion fatigue aka burn out and is emotionally distant? Too busy in a small church and wears so many hats.
The Word of God The Word/Law God spoke Ex.20 The Word/Law God wrote Deut. 9:10 The Word/Law God made flesh John 1:14 The same Word/Law God wrote upon the heart and the same Word/Law that hung on the cross, we now know as Jesus. When God tells us how to apply His Word in Deut.6:8-9 He is putting us in Jesus. It is the circumcision of the flesh and the beginning of our armour. All religions only lead to death. Go to the only One who gives life. It is by our obedience we receive the life and protection from those who comes to steal, kill and destroy, that He offers. We all wait for the return of Jesus. Yet He has returned in a book that speaks of Him, and we don't recognize Him today any more than they did when He came as Jesus. Put Him on!
I completely disagree that you cannot be a worship pastor or a youth pastor. If you’re doing both rolls correctly you are absolutely shepherding people. For a youth pastor you are shepherding teens and parents with teens. For a worship pastor you should be specifically shepherding members of your team singers musicians sound and visual people. Also I have never been on a staff where a single member wasn’t being charged to Shepard the members of the church no madder the age. The problem to me is people thinking it’s the job of one single man and he is the only one who can do it. That’s how you get burn out is by putting all of that on one man.
One thing i don t like being judge God can judge me, and yes i respect people opinion but say i know i am save just live with my bf that i have kids with i have sins in my past i did repent and i alway pray ,i try my best for my children i am just not married i wish i was but my ex is not into marriage we live together to raise or kids and the money is not their . Yes my kids would want me married but i can t force him to marry me so i accept this life for now, If i hade money yes i would give him ah choice if non i would buy mayself a home . I always been a stay at home mom i feel bad i don t have my home and money now .maybe someday i will
I've seen this AI crap before and definitely don't agree with using it in this context. I honestly think using it in this way is demonic. But I also think on your part that you should definitely know what you're talking about, especially if you're going to make a video about somebody that you don't even know. To put up an image saying this person should be fired is not a good look and it causes division in the body of Christ. Now you're putting yourself in the same category as these guys that are constantly making videos , calling everybody false and honestly causing nothing but problems. I'm 100% for holding each other accountable but before we go putting stuff out there we need to go straight to the source to get the facts.
I love that you’re cautious! Thank you. That’s encouraging. We all should be. But, would we keep that same consistency with a bad doctor, or a bad teacher, or even a bad auto mechanic? No. We must be bold in love, and in order to do that, we must rebuke sin especially in church leadership, just as we would a hospital with a bad surgeon. I have no hesitation here by arguing from the biblical definition of pastor. It is not causing division to rebuke the divisor.
His name is Granger Smith. Listen to his countless interviews…never in my life heard more profound testimonies as his. He focus Christ not his son who died from drowning in the swimming bc pool in the back of his home. His wife never blamed him but they found Christ truly truly where before they were weak Christian’s…listen to his transformation….love how he focus Christ alone and not feel pity into him about why this happened…God draw people closer to him sometimes through tests ….trusting our Creator for a reason….👍❤️🙏🙏
@@definit1on119based on the book that says to turn from false teachers and the love of money is the root of all evil. To make a prayer bot that charges per prayer is all of the above.
All Christians are hypocrites is a bold generalization, the Bible says to confront someone when they sin, and the Bible also says, “Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” John 7:24 granger stated multiple times that he can’t speak to the man personally, but what he’s doing is wrong. Most Christians aren’t hypocrites, but at the end of the day a hypocrite between you and God is still closer to God
@@definit1on119 I was looking and it’s possible that the verse I gave doesn’t fit with the context, I think it could but just in case, it’s not against the Bible to see if someone is living and acting according to the Bible, if they’re not you should call them out on that. If you disagree with that you have very little knowledge of the Bible and the fact that Paul wrote many letters to the churches doing just that
So if all Christians are hypocrites than you aren’t? That’s why we need gathering to help each other to improve. We could use one more. Remember we are all sinners you including. God is waiting for you to have relationship with Christ. Free will given to anyone who want that eternal life…John 3:16/14:6. In America churches are wide open so take advantage of this gathering with believers 😮bc one day it will be completely gone…Hebrew 19:25….Dont forsake the gathering and why is that 10 Commandments are in both in OT and NT? …#4 …Honor Sabbath Day….So important. We take advantage none so much just bc He’s Living God….Read the Ancient Bible He left for us to live by…..I am encouraging you…but one day too late….Free will…Imnsooo thankful for His death in the cross for my sins and forgave me….wow! Jesus is the King of King so take him seriously and I’m 100%with him on this comments he does throughout his sermon. I love how Granger letting congregations know a to focus in Christ, not on my need, me needs, myself….Christ❤️🙏Keep focus on Christ Granger…🙏🙏🙏🙏
We went to a mega church for 12 years and never had a conversation with him or ever had him say hello to us when we passed him in the halls. We attend a church now for the last 9 years, and who was with our last church. He comes and prays for us in the hospital, calls to pray with us at home, and in his office at church. We're family to each other.
as it should be 🥲
Thank you. I've been struggling with the thought of looking for a different church for a while now and who they call pastor in the church. I've met the lead pastor once at a church event. When he preaches it is from the word but I grew up in a church the "pastors actually tended to the sheep". This podcast and the one with Colin and you talked about being plugged into a good church and the 9941 got my attention. I thank you for your words, this brought some clarity to what the Lord has been laying on my heart.
After I had my baby I suffered severe post natal depression. I remember sitting in church alone, unable to speak to anyone, isolated. Everyone else was buzzing around, laughing with each other, chatting, having coffee. Not one person came over to me and sat down to see how I was. I cannot forget it, it lasted months.
I was so lonely at that time. One day I took my toddler to an indoor ball play area and bumped into a woman from my church. She said sorry I can't stay and chat I'm with friends....
People can be very uncaring, especially in church.
i agree, thats what happened to me, very similar. in amish and mennonite life, youre not supposed to grieve long. because if you do its a sign to them that you dont have faith in God. it hurts. because we are just sad, it doesnt mean we dont have faith. all my love !
I'm sorry for your experience with so called church people. Please try another church or another until you feel God's presence. There are wonderful churches out there.
granger, i stumbled on your pod cast and when my husband came home from work i replayed this for him, he smiled and said he liked you a lot, he liked the message which is rare for an ex amish man, he liked that you answered the questions from all points of views and scenarios and not just 1.
Hi!
Granger, I really appreciate you explaining the role of a pastor at a church. I was raised in a nondenominational church where the pastor wasn’t involved in our life. He would give the message, say hello at the end by the door and then we would see him again next Sunday. It seemed like people were in their own bubbles going through the motions. And we only had a congregation of 50 so looking back this is super strange to me. I mean, I spent 20 years around these people and knew barely anything about them! I thought this was the way it was at every church because I had nothing to compare it to. Thankfully God has showed me through his Word and through people in my life what a healthy church looks like - but it’s crazy how I never thought there was a problem. All this to say I think it’s really important what you’re talking about! Sometimes you never know until you’re exposed to a different way and that certainly was the case with me.
(I later found out that some of the people at the church said it wasn’t feeding them and the pastor said it’s our own responsibility to be fed not the church and then he would essentially preach about staying loyal to the church. Just very bizarre. Glad I’m at a good church now.)
Question!
What would you say to someone who says a church is not feeding them spiritually? Is this a valid concern to have…or does it reflect the character of the person?
I've heard Pastor Ron in the past. It was mainly on tv. However, since you shared this video. It would be absolutely cold, insensitive and cowardly to even think that AI chat bot could possibly take on the responsibility of shepherding his flock. Not even possible! We as God's children need a pastor in a physical/spiritual/emotional/mentally to care for his sheep. That God made man in His image to take responsibility for not only his animals; but for his family and his spiritual flock in God's church❤❤
Jesus I know you will guide me. I’m overwhelmed as a single mom both of my sons are special needs and require so much from me. Jesus I need your help providing for my children so that they may have all they need. Lord I’m constantly struggling each month to pay rent and I struggle to buy groceries, for my sons I’m ashamed. Hear my prayers help me overcome these obstacles you are my strength.
You should be able to get ssi for your kids being they are disabled
Praying sister 🙏🏻
I'll be praying for your children and for you to make ends meet for them both. ❤ There is no reason to be ashamed for asking someone for help. We all need help at some point in life.
You should be able to get some community, state, and government help with both of your children being disabled. No, it won't be a lavish lifestyle or stake and lobster every night, but you could get enough to live and make ends meet. ❤
And some states pay up to 1,800 a month to care for your disabled child. In my town in ga there’s signs everywhere to apply.
Please find you a good Bible believing church to get you and your boys in, and check to see if there are any support groups in your community that deal with caretakers of special needs kids.
Goood mornin 🤠☕️ hope everyone has a great CHRISTmas!!
Gooood Morning! Hope you have a wonderful Christmas as well!! ❤😊
You too!!! 😊
Same to you!
As a disabled elderly woman, I have been unable to attend church for over 28 years. How I wish I were able to be a part of a bible teaching church. However God was able to move me deeper into His word because I was forced to be isolated. Because of this I was able to weed out so much false teaching I had received over the years. Until pastors get back to emphasizing the importance of studying the scriptures and testing all things, people will be misled by unbiblical teaching. The gospel is the power of God unto salvation, and to spread it is our mission. Come Lord Jesus is the cry of my heart.
God Bless you! I can so relate to your comment! God Bless from a Great Gran in MN
Just found you on UA-cam. I’m am blessed by your wisdom, humility,sincerity, and honest approach. Thank you. I don’t think I saw your video by chance
Good morning Thank you God for this beautiful morning this morning 🌄. Merry Christmas to you and your family from me and my family here in North Carolina.... Merry Christmas to everyone this year may you all be blessed this Christmas....
If your pastor doesn't know your name, you don't have a pastor.
AAAAAAMMMMMEEEEENNNNN!!!!! 💯 In 2008-2009, I attended a mega church in Baton Rouge. I ran into the Pastor in the store and though he was very kind and receptive, he asked me how we knew each other. That was the moment I understood!
Thank you! Amen
Merry Christmas to all celebrate Jesus the reason for the season
You’re totally right Grainger
Right on, people and person-to-person are the church's role.
I just left the Mennonite church they excommunicated me when my mom died during covid, I didn't go to church. I've never been a social person so going to church was always hard for me. so they shunned me. then the next year when I felt better and happier to go to church my 5 yr old daughter died. I completely broke. I never had a relationship with them personally. just dinners. not love. forced dinners and suppers. if you didn't show up for supper or cancelled or just didn't want to go, you were not a believer. currently looking for a new church where I can bond more with people, however our small town is ever so small. im left with a Baptist church, called them and it took a month for that pastor to call me back. small church only 10 people so the wait of the call was ridiculous. I have better luck calling random pastors who answer and talk to me. that's when I felt more at peace to leave the church in my heart. ill find one I can depend on.
I am so sorry for the loss of your mom and your precious child. I pray the Lord heals your heart and leads you to a church that will love you. That will walk along side you. I pray this Christmas time you the Lord is close to you . ❤
I wish you all the best Anna. I left the Amish a year ago after getting born again. God bless
@@M-sj9fv an du ah ! husband was amish, we went mennonite. another part of my excommunication was that they didnt believe me when i said amish use real wine that they make for communion. they only use grape juice, we went to maam for communion and i was scolded because it was STRONG drink, no matter what i said they didnt believe me and thought i was lying. so they went and talked to amish and yeah after i was shunned they basically figured out i was telling the truth and tried to get me to come back. i said nope, ill find a new church, i have god you dont. we will find one :) God will provide ! an denke for that ! Gott ist die liebe!
@@Monalisa0622 thank you !!!!! the lord is very close to us, now more then ever. thank you for the kind words. its hard finding a new church when youre used to one way of living and all the rules for so long. we are blessed that my amish husbands family is very loving and supportive as well. hes shunned too from the amish and we went mennonite. so yes we learned a lot, so ill take amish rules and mennonite rules and still smile because i learned a lot and i learned even more to draw nearer to God during this period.
@@M-sj9fv my husband left the amish as well, he left and we went mennonite. was there for about 13 years till all this happened. it started off very well, went very very well. another part of what happened, is at amish family maam made wine for communion, mennonites only use grape juice. went we went for communion at amish, i was lectured for ST
Absolutely correct.
I don't have religion but I have a friendship with Jesus
Good morning Granger!! Merry Christmas!!
Another great podcast 🎉
I was three years no church. It was my first time behind homeplate at the ballpark. The season ticket holders left when Jeremy Camp came onstage after the game. I wept holding my two year old daughter in my arms my rambunctious 7 year old next to me. Evangelism woke me up. Now I go to church naturally. Thankful for Jesus's first and most important commandment, to love the Lord with all your heart, mind, and soul. Thankful for the open door policy. He could of said love the Lord with all your strength on Sundays between 9 and 12.
1Corinthians 3:7 So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow.
You are correct!
Morning everyone!!
I don't need a machine to pray for me. I want a real person, who knows me by name and really cares, to pray for me. That, whatever it is, nope!
Granger your wright about all of this
I agree with you that cool and i would never go their on line like that
We had a really good pastor at our church and a couple weeks ago he left to go help at his family farm our church is beside its self so hopefully we can get a new pastor in there
I don't know if you're right or wrong. It's awesome food for thought, it does not strike me as wrong at first hearing. I mostly attend church online because I can't find preaching locally that compares. They do have an online pastor and we have communicated through email but he doesn't feel like my pastor. I have communicated with the head pastor and he feels like my pastor. It's a huge church and when the head pastor runs into my brother he asks how I'm doing by my name. I live 3 days drive from that church. It's hard to fathom the head pastor and preacher reads every email I've sent, tells one of the other pastors in the group to respond to me because he doesn't have the time, they're up front about that, BUT he seems out my brother, asking about me, in a way that proves he remembered my emails without betraying a confidence. It's almost scary.
Pastor Ron is an amazing man of God. He has 2 church campuses, one in California where he lives and does the majority of his preaching and one in South Carolina, where he has other pastors over that church. He recently announced the AI thing in his podcast and from what it sounded like, it was going to be able to look through his entire archive of over 30 years of preaching, to help folks find answers. I thought that idea was pretty cool, but hearing the praying bit put me off. I wouldn't have used it regardless, though. I think his churches have gotten too large, personally. Maybe he's spread himself too thin? I'm not sure of the staff under him in his churches to be able to speak to how his churches operate. I wouldn't want to attend a church where the pastor didn't know me personally. I'm so blessed to be in a church that I know my pastor, and he knows my name.
would you also be doing some music if you were doing a podcast tour? Think it would be cool.
In my church we have 5 men with the title pastor (reverend or doctor) but only 1 who is called pastor and he has been the church leader for 50 years and he knows his flock (congregation). I hope everyone has a great Christmas, mine will be very low key but that's the way life is sometimes.
This is definitely something I never considered AI would be used for.
When I was a kid I went to his church and it started out in a little office size building and when service was done we would all grab lunch out somewhere now many years later you have to make a appointment to have a meeting with him and all the personnel touch is no more
Spot on about the role and title of pastor. And if the flock or church needs prayer, there can/should be an appointed team of prayer partners/warriors to minister. And help with the flock while still having some access to the pastor. And I don't believe that AI is inspired by God.
I'm not a believer but I know a scam artist when I see and hear 1. That's the major reason behind me never trusting religion is because it's always been a business of get a person or group rich while asking the people who may be struggling to give more
I think Scripture teaches an elder- run congregation and pastor/teacher is one of the elders. The pastor doesnt have a bigger role in decisin makinfg than any other elder and until all agree,mthey keep praying and searching Scripture. Its dangerous for a pastor to have a 'vision'?and everyone has to get on board. Tthats just another strategy thats not seen anywhere in Scripture. Thanks Granger.
You are so right ! Thanks for this comment I wish we could talk face to face
Way too artificial…. We, AOG, local Assembly of God church, near DC are saying “Welcome Home”! This says more and most.
I would say yes and no I can contact my pastor on text but it’s in a group with his wife in it too.. so it is not just him it would be with him and her.
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Apparently you have never called a church prayer line. The first one I called was answered by an unbeliever, the second one sent a vial of olive oil. the third made an appointment to call me but never called. Judging this pastor is not fair if you can't compare him to others.
What do you do when your pastor , a woman, has compassion fatigue aka burn out and is emotionally distant? Too busy in a small church and wears so many hats.
The Word of God
The Word/Law God spoke Ex.20
The Word/Law God wrote Deut. 9:10
The Word/Law God made flesh John 1:14
The same Word/Law God wrote upon the heart and the same Word/Law that hung on the cross, we now know as Jesus.
When God tells us how to apply His Word in Deut.6:8-9 He is putting us in Jesus. It is the circumcision of the flesh and the beginning of our armour. All religions only lead to death. Go to the only One who gives life. It is by our obedience we receive the life and protection from those who comes to steal, kill and destroy, that He offers.
We all wait for the return of Jesus. Yet He has returned in a book that speaks of Him, and we don't recognize Him today any more than they did when He came as Jesus. Put Him on!
The lord well help you
Ron Carpenter has been around for a long time! The only thing I can say from the few times that I watched him.. he has a really big ego! Beware!
I know how you feel with a special need son my son is special ; Iam his caregiver for 36 years he is in a wheelchair
Ron’s theology or lack of sound doctrine has kept me away for years .
I mean this what comes from sola scriptura…
I completely disagree that you cannot be a worship pastor or a youth pastor. If you’re doing both rolls correctly you are absolutely shepherding people. For a youth pastor you are shepherding teens and parents with teens. For a worship pastor you should be specifically shepherding members of your team singers musicians sound and visual people. Also I have never been on a staff where a single member wasn’t being charged to Shepard the members of the church no madder the age. The problem to me is people thinking it’s the job of one single man and he is the only one who can do it. That’s how you get burn out is by putting all of that on one man.
One thing i don t like being judge God can judge me, and yes i respect people opinion but say i know i am save just live with my bf that i have kids with i have sins in my past i did repent and i alway pray ,i try my best for my children i am just not married i wish i was but my ex is not into marriage we live together to raise or kids and the money is not their .
Yes my kids would want me married but i can t force him to marry me so i accept this life for now,
If i hade money yes i would give him ah choice if non i would buy mayself a home .
I always been a stay at home mom i feel bad i don t have my home and money now .maybe someday i will
I've seen this AI crap before and definitely don't agree with using it in this context. I honestly think using it in this way is demonic. But I also think on your part that you should definitely know what you're talking about, especially if you're going to make a video about somebody that you don't even know. To put up an image saying this person should be fired is not a good look and it causes division in the body of Christ. Now you're putting yourself in the same category as these guys that are constantly making videos , calling everybody false and honestly causing nothing but problems. I'm 100% for holding each other accountable but before we go putting stuff out there we need to go straight to the source to get the facts.
I love that you’re cautious! Thank you. That’s encouraging. We all should be.
But, would we keep that same consistency with a bad doctor, or a bad teacher, or even a bad auto mechanic? No. We must be bold in love, and in order to do that, we must rebuke sin especially in church leadership, just as we would a hospital with a bad surgeon. I have no hesitation here by arguing from the biblical definition of pastor. It is not causing division to rebuke the divisor.
I agree an AI Pastor is ridiculous
I don’t know why Ron Carpenter is doing this!
His name is Granger Smith. Listen to his countless interviews…never in my life heard more profound testimonies as his. He focus Christ not his son who died from drowning in the swimming bc pool in the back of his home. His wife never blamed him but they found Christ truly truly where before they were weak Christian’s…listen to his transformation….love how he focus Christ alone and not feel pity into him about why this happened…God draw people closer to him sometimes through tests ….trusting our Creator for a reason….👍❤️🙏🙏
Ron carpenter is a false teacher
Like every christian pastor. 🙄
Based on your authority?
@@definit1on119based on the book that says to turn from false teachers and the love of money is the root of all evil. To make a prayer bot that charges per prayer is all of the above.
You don't answer no one's comments you should many people are hurting this time of year
Granger, you should collaborate with the channel Fighting for the Faith. With Pastor Chris Rosebrough.
I ised to love granger but i cant do this anymore. Sorry man insubed from the channel. SMH!
Why?
Currently judging a pastor like your good book doesn't say not to do that. 🤷 All Christians are hypocrites!
All Christians are hypocrites is a bold generalization, the Bible says to confront someone when they sin, and the Bible also says, “Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” John 7:24
granger stated multiple times that he can’t speak to the man personally, but what he’s doing is wrong. Most Christians aren’t hypocrites, but at the end of the day a hypocrite between you and God is still closer to God
You don’t know what you’re talking about. Show me in the Bible where it sais that?
@@definit1on119 where it says what? I already provided John 7:24, if you have something else specific I’d be happy to find it for you
@@definit1on119 I was looking and it’s possible that the verse I gave doesn’t fit with the context, I think it could but just in case, it’s not against the Bible to see if someone is living and acting according to the Bible, if they’re not you should call them out on that. If you disagree with that you have very little knowledge of the Bible and the fact that Paul wrote many letters to the churches doing just that
So if all Christians are hypocrites than you aren’t? That’s why we need gathering to help each other to improve. We could use one more.
Remember we are all sinners you including. God is waiting for you to have relationship with Christ. Free will given to anyone who want that eternal life…John 3:16/14:6. In America churches are wide open so take advantage of this gathering with believers 😮bc one day it will be completely gone…Hebrew 19:25….Dont forsake the gathering and why is that 10 Commandments are in both in OT and NT? …#4 …Honor Sabbath Day….So important. We take advantage none so much just bc He’s Living God….Read the Ancient Bible He left for us to live by…..I am encouraging you…but one day too late….Free will…Imnsooo thankful for His death in the cross for my sins and forgave me….wow! Jesus is the King of King so take him seriously and I’m 100%with him on this comments he does throughout his sermon. I love how Granger letting congregations know a to focus in Christ, not on my need, me needs, myself….Christ❤️🙏Keep focus on Christ Granger…🙏🙏🙏🙏