Should players strike when they’re paid so much?
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- A listener gets in touch asking how Rodri can possibly complain about too many games when he signed a new Man City contract after the new Champions League format was announced. Marcus, Luke and Andy discuss the idea that players should take matters into their own hands and begin rejecting new contracts if they’re really serious about the tough schedule.
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I find the push back of Rodri’s comments strange.
Because ultimately he’s pushing back on football becoming an NFL/NBA type of league and structure, with the players being overworked becoming a symptom of that.
Something that fans say they don’t want, but when a player talks about it from a personal point of view it’s a “Shut up and dribble” response.
It would interesting if a top club did offer a contract offered a 40 game a year contract at 25% below current salary value with massive bonuses for every game above that 40, how many would players would take that offer?
"Maybe the club world cup won't make enough money and they'll roll things back a bit". Exactly! Football is ultimately entertainment, and what we're seeing here is an extremely slow market adjustment.
Think of what's happened in Hollywood over the last decade: we started getting an endless number shows, streaming services, remakes, etc. at the expense of quality writing and story-telling. The studios thought they could just ramp up the production of crap, but they've taken it so far that now we're at a place where none of the big studios are making enough (actually often losing a lot of) money to justify that new model.
Football is stubborn as hell, so I think the process will be incredibly slow and messy, but ultimately the market and consumers end up getting something close to what they want. Ironically (and counterintuitively for most British football fans), I think there's a lot of regulation that's preventing that from happening quicker.
As an American it’s just bizarre to hear this stuff. American players had to form unions and strike to get to 50% of gross revenues because they played for monopolistic leagues in sports where there’s no option to go abroad because outside leagues didn’t exist for their sport. They had to fight and claw for just 50%
European football players make 70% of the revenues! The reason teams are constantly trying to do something to make more money is TO PAY THEM. If footballers were willing to accept less pay in exchange for game caps, teams would sign those deals in a heartbeat.
Players like Rodri just want the cake and to eat it too. It’s nonsense
What Andy says at the start is what I’m saying. Let’s face it footballers aren’t being asked to fight in Afghanistan and they are on obscene amounts of money so it’s difficult to feel sorry for them - BUT the quality of football is getting worse and that’s something which fans should care about.
Worse???? I’d like to see facts to back this up…
@@Vegan_Photographs Fight in Afghanitstan? You mean commit war crimes in an illegal invasion of a soveriegn state. You little hot gammon.
At a certain level in any other industry than "sports" it becomes a managerial position. Sports person offer their labour for a wage, their wages are public knowledge hence the public ire. Look at the salaries and bonuses taken home and stashed away by the executive class. As ever most of the masses lack comprehension and tend to be idiots. Abuse adminstrators and executives before getting angry with rodri, kounde and the like.
A better question is : " should OWNERS get paid so much ,when they do five -times-fuck-all in the Sport. "
Unless you're going to talk about price controls for Club ownership, who cares about what the players make?
Most players DON'T make the enormous sums that players like Rodri make.
And if all the players wages were slashed in half, Ownership would pocket the extra money and keep gouging the fans.
This argument that the players shouldn't strike is actually the position of the wealthy classes in Society, regarding the working class.
it boils down to: "These peasants need to get back to the fields and make me some more money,because the ashtrays on my 3rd yacht are almost full ".
This narrative is meant to translate to ALL workers,not just players.
It claims that your boss OWNS you, and you are ungrateful if you want to live your life, instead of giving more of the precious time you have left on this Earth to your "betters".
Rodri is tired but Phillips couldn’t get a sniff? Is it the game or the managers overworking them? You have a squad for a reason
Emotionally mature employers, apparently located in Scandinavia in the main, grasp that less is often more, that workers will be more productive in shorter hours.
Longer hours often result in yielding less; you see this a lot in east Asia.
Plenty of studies show this.
it suits everyone to have fewer games. Fans get a higher bang for their buck in terms of quality and pay less as there are no longer more and more games and travel each year. Plus let's be honest it's got to the point where there's too much football it'll be nice to have time to watch other stuff. Managers get more time on the training ground, again increasing the quality of games. Most importantly;y the players get more rest and can play to their highest level every game. The one thing I would say is they will have to be content receiving lower wages as much of the increases in recent times are due to constant commercial and broadcasting revenue growth.
Unless there's a collaboration of both the players concerns over workload and fans concerns over ticket prices etc there will be no meaningful movement to change the current course of where football especially in England (at the very least) is heading towards. Everyone is just taking each others concerns with a pinch of salt whilst the moneymen in football just keep turning the screws.
Garnacho's hair on Ten Hag??
I think it’s easy to focus on the top clubs and not the bigger picture.
For example, Peterborough United last season played 63 games and could’ve played more if they’d gone deeper into EFL and FA cup competition or had reached the play off final. At this level you’ve got players getting called into interns setups as well. But what then becomes the answer for clubs like that lower down the pyramid where the margins are much lower? Does it become one rule for the top and another for the bottom or does pressure get put on clubs which may be already in precarious positions?
Any more games and Chelsea's squad suddenly makes sense. They may need another goalkeeper tho 😁
Who do we feel sorry about the most ... greedy players who want the lion share of the money in football or greedy UEFA & FIFA ???!!!
Individual players aren’t playing more than they used to.
Loads of players have been hitting the 55-60 games mark for decades including in lower leagues.
The only difference is more players are hitting that mark.
The whining about this is mostly nonsense
There's too much focus on players wages. Ask yourself this " what do the shareholders get" because it's they that bring little to the table. You don't go to a game and marvel at an owners business acumen and they are quite happy to quietly take the lionshare whilst we point our fingers at those with actual talent. In fact they encourage it.
Let’s cut international football down to just the big tournaments. No one cares for international friendlies or the nation’s rubbish. It’s the most boring football to watch.
The players don't have to play every game. There are subs and academy players. The managers deserve same blame for not rotating