I imagine those seam lines could be fixed with plastic cement, and of course you'd need to then paint it. Either way it's definitely not straight build material.
aight lemme tell you this. I recently bought a mg gpo01fb and if you put time into it, panel line, paint detail, tighten some joints, its actually a good kit. effort will reward you
high grade/no grade (forgot which) dinn from seed. doesn't even have elbow or knee articulation, not to mention sh@t color accuracy, even with stickers, and it doesn't even have the proper number of wings. My only regret buy
@@porakiyadraekojin3390 no grade or first grade I think is what you are referring to I got the red frame from that line great looking detail but no color accuracy and no movement in the arms and legs except where they combine with the body
Buying old kits is a great way to put things in perspective! You can't appreciate how great a 2019 or 2020 kit is without having built one from the mid 90s.
This kit is really awesome if you want to pose kits repeatedly. But other than that and the height you should get the hg. And if you want to see how good an old mg is, just go to dalong since some of the older kits have higher scores than modern kits. And the ball was the first kit to get a perfect score of 100. Oh and the g-gundam kits were the first mg to have inner frames.
Dalong, while being incredibly useful for references, is just another guy's website with his opinions. The fact that he gave higher scores to older kits is subjective, just like Mecha's rating here.
My first kit was the MG Strike Freedom full burst. I got the MG Freedom 2.0 afterwards and wow the difference. The level of detail was so much better on the Freedom 2.0. Well because of that I started paying attention to the year of production.
True story: the old plastic so sharp, it cut my fingers...what makes a kit too old? You have the mg full burnern? It's floppy and less detailed...and the plastics when you cut the nubs have this old plastic feeling...too hard or too brittle.
The Full Burnern has nothing against the mg physalis. Mine goes ragdoll mode, can't hold the shield, hand socket would just pop out. when holding the bazooka, the hip and leg joints are so loose, it cant hold the mobile suit in a standing pose even without shield and bazooka.
I own the full burnern mg, bought it earlier this year, all I had to do extra effort wise was to remove nubs, tighten the legs up and then just panel line and add decals. really if you put effort no kit can be too horrible
Dude id kill for that. But you know if they did they would all have skinny arms and legs and tiny heads and look pathetic. Cant put into words how much id love a Shining Gundam that has the old HG 1/100's proportions and anime accurate bulk but awesome articulation and detail plus a nice big clear green shining finger and undergated gold parts for the hypermode parts. Im gettin hyped just imagining it rn but i know it will never happen.
@@christophermercaldi8616 its been like 20 years man. Idk. I legit might die of old age before they make it. Bandai has kicked the remains of my childhood so many times im really starting to not care anymore.
I’d say 2005 onward is mostly good, a lot of the 2.0s were released then and they’re fanatics in my opinion. And personally I like the G Gundam master grades, but I just want Bandai to make hg revives of all the gundams from G Gundam.
For HGs I'd say that season 1 of 00 and before is where you really need to start putting in the elbow grease to make them shine. MGs, I'd say around 2007ish is my cutoff point. That's the period where we started getting some really amazing stuff like the Zaku II 2.0 and the Turn A.
For me, this is my philosophy on Master Grade Kits Must be accurate to the source material (in terms of how it looks.) I need to REALLY love the design of the machine The mobile suit needs to have amazing gimmicks The mobile suit needs to be a fun and satisfying build The articulation needs to be amazing It needs to be better than a high grade or real grade of the same machine
TBF how hard would it be to have the wings be transformable in a MG kit? I think the High Grade did it better by having the wings and the cloak be separate pieces. It's more stable that way.
My very first 3 kits were actually the HG 1/100 Wing zero TV, HG 1/100 Gundam Deathscythe, and the HG 1/100 Deathscythe Hell. I took an over 20 year break before getting back into building.
The oldest kit I have is the HG Z'gok mass production type. It was certainly an experience and while not all the parts lined up perfectly and the nub placement sucked, it turned out awesome. I really learnt a lot about sanding and found new ways to improve by working on a kit with so many large curved parts. The monoeye being static is the biggest knock against it but honestly isn't that bad. I gave it a matt topcoat and it looks dope up on my shelf. I don't think a kit is too old it's all about how much work you want to put into it.
@@Tomtenthemech yeah, even now it's still one of my favs. It's not perfect but the techniques I developed for sanding curved parts with flat sanding sticks have helped me immensely. Some kits are defo worse than others, but I think each one can teach you something if you're willing to commit to it. Even the RG Zeta... probably
as someone who collects older mg kits, this is a godsend in my eyes for the time, then again I can see your bias against older kits as you have little to no experience with them
Y’know I was dreading your review on this knowing how bad you review older kits like these, but after hearing your verdict, I respect what you said because it seems you finally took into better consideration of how old this kit is. As someone who started building Gunpla since the early Seed days and tried out the few older MGs like these, I’m already aware of what they’re limited to compared to what we’re getting nowadays. But like you said, people who only recently got into Gunpla might not appreciate them anymore because of their age. But that doesn’t mean people should start hating on older kits, just be more aware of their limits and work your way around them. Hopefully going forward you keep up this consideration on future releases, especially with some releases still having bases/retools on older models.
6:53 for anyone interested in some brief Gaikotsu gunpla asmr. What makes a kit old? It's been removed from production. So long as you enjoy putting it together, and you can be happy with what you made in the end, no kit is any less relevant than the other. Yes, that does mean I'm saying that the mg 00 is comparable to the rg unicorn. I've never built a kit that I wasn't proud of, and I loved every minute of every kit I own. Including those two. That being said, I did enjoy some kits more than others.
In my opinion the older kits aren't as detailed, articulated or colour separated as mot of the newer ones but sometimes its just nice to build one for a different experience or a quick weekend build
My first MG was the RX-78-2 granddaddy Gundam. The original, v.1. And it was super awesome, it had opening hatches on the head, arms, and legs, and an opening cockpit. It was so amazing, and I was heartbroken when I left it behind at a hotel when I was on a trip. You should build one just to appreciate how far Master Grade has come.
Count the times he says ‘awesome’ on average. Every youtuber has their repeat words. I do find it annoying but then I remind myself that normal people are less cynical and find genuine joy in these things and that makes me happy.
I currently own the HG Master Gundam and Fuunsaiki, and it's amazing. It has a relatively big sticker sheet, and Fuunsaiki requires some yellow paint, but I DON'T CARE. THIS KIT IS AMAZING.
Fuunsaiki is brittle, I ended up breaking the legs building it :/ need some putty to finish it. But the Master Gundam itself is excellent. Little top heavy with the wings but it's such a nice looking piece once put together
I like the whole thing of this kit except the head and the hand, also try to search in google "Gundam Kamiki Burning Kai World Champ" it is too cool, but its not official, just a costume build gundam
I’m currently building the MG GP01, I’ve been building a long long time. I love the nostalgia. And with Gunpla or model building in general using the right tools is so important. I’ve built lots of kits with under gating I bet I could build this perfectly. And it was the shit back in 2002. We were thankful for having a MG that looked that good.
I got this when I saw it on the rack of a gaming store. When I opened the box, I was surprised by three things: -The card with Master Gundam on top was pretty neat -Master Asia was also really neat -Screws? The screws was the first indication that this was an older kit, and was surprised to learn that the kit is older than me. Regardless, I started to build and I had a fine time with it. While I am not going to defend the rubber or anything, I will defend this kit by saying I had fun building it. Its currently the crown jewel of my small but growing Gunpla collection
contemporary kits: go 2010's kits: still safe, mostly nothing mindblowing but there's plenty of gems in there 2000's kits: kind of a mixed bag, not necessarely bad but they'll need some love to be on par with later kits, wouldn't recommend for a first timer but not so bad and more often than not your only chance of getting a kit of a specific ms anything pre-2000: unless this is really the only possibility to get that specific ms, avoid like the plague. like if there's a 2000's kit that looks similar enough to be customized into what you're looking for go for that instead even if you suck at customizing. Proto-Gunpla: IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!
Building the old MG Spiegel Gundam right now. Impressed, even with the screws. Based on time and sense of accomplishment, I actually focus on the 90's No Grade G Gundam kits, and older HG kits, with a lot of painting. Takes time, but worth it.
I recently built the HGFC Master Gundam. I personally recommend that one instead of the MG, it's near the same base, just instead of the the good wire it comes with A WHOLE HORSE. It also comes with a mini Master Asia, on 1/144 scale even. The horse doubles as a stand and its also made with the HGFC God Gundam in mind
Which is tripled the price of this...and isn't the correct color of gold because the Hyper Mode in the anime is more of an orangish shade of gold or amber color to me
@@austinhall6002 It was the same price as the regular version actually. This was before The dreaded P-Bandai existed. All of those other Strike variants would have been P-Bandai if it had existed at the time.
Early 2000s gunplas are, IMO, the best kits for those learning customization or just painting. 1. its not too expensive, even if you messed up, it wont burn through your pocket. 2. Detailing are often a challenge. So that you'll learn how to deepen panel lines, removing nub marks and mold lines, detailing paintings, etc, from many many parts with such problems. after you're done with one, you'll have better experience and skill to use for another model.
I love older kits ngl, its really cool its like living through the history of the way gunpla kits are engineered, really ads context to the newers stuff and adds to it a lot, IMO, but ik its not for everyone
Agree but i need solidness and articulation Ok maybe not articulation but definitely solidness (or zero percent polycaps) cuz if looks was everything almost every kit would be nothing but looking pretty or a hand grenade
Anything can be a masterpiece with enough patience and skill. There was a gentleman I knew that completely remodeled the non grade 1/144 gp02 from the 90s. The end product looked like a rg. He gave the same treatment to aoshima's shin getter 2 from 1997.
The fact that the first model kit I built was the MG Gundam Spiegel, I don’t think there is such a thing as too old of a kit. My belief is, the older the kit, the more work it will need.
I've built the GP01 and God Gundam MG's just this year. They were a blast. I even have the MG Master Gundam on my desk right now. Can't wait to finish it and, yes, the little rubber Master Asia is great, please Bandai bring them back.
My first Master Grade was a Spiegel which i got new in 2002. I also purchased a MG Zaku II High mobility which is from 1999. what a world of difference. The Spiegel had its inner frame and blew me away, where as the Zaku is pretty much a 1/100 model with a few more detail, no inner frame. Also this was the Black Tri-Stars variant and the whole lower leg needed color correction. That model sat on the shelf until recently while i am trying to give it a nice custom paint job.
@@malcay5550 i think most of the 2.0s hold up very well by today’s standards, i get the 3.0 gundam has more detail and part seperation but several kits before 2010 are fantastic as straight builds. Gundam Mk. 2, Zaku 2, etc
As someone who primarily collects HGs and has more than a hundred from over the decades, here are my thoughts: Theres a line before and after Universal Hip Joints were used, which you can use as a general indication if a kit is still good for today or not. The indicator kits are the HG Gundam 00 from HG00 and HG FA Gundam 7th from HGUC, both were released in 2008. All the HGs released before these two uses balljoint hips, are generally less articulated, less part separated, and usually more disproportionate than those that came after them. 90s & 2000s kits are known to be disproportionate to the original lineart and generally not great, but are serviceable when theres no other kit released of the design. There are exceptions, however, like the HGUC Nu which still holds up for almost being completely part separated (especially the funnels) and had a higher quality which made it very innovative for its time [it wouldve been Gundarium tier at the time]. However, despite being older, 80s kits are actually pretty good especially for their time, and yes, 80s kits generally had higher quality than what weve seen released in the 90s.
"Too old to get enjoyment out of"? That's ridiculous, people even found enjoyment out of the HGUC Tristan, Gunpla is freedom man, if you like the MS then nothing is truly "too old"
I've only recently got into Gunpla, but I picked up a few of the newer HG kits, as well as two of the old Turn A kits because the designs were so cool, and the difference in the build experience was immense. I still love the Mobile Sumo I built, but nothing frustrated me more than those thin plastic connecting pegs snapping.
7:18 Master Gundam is in SUCH A WEIRD SPOT when it comes to "color accuracy." Every kit of the Master Gundam features the body armor as a dark navy blue, but in the anime, the body armor is jet black. I like it better with the jet black armor, so I painted them on the HG. The blue on the head, arms, and legs NEEDS to be completely Matte. NO GLOSS. I think it also needs to be slightly darker. I am a purist.
The RX-79 Ground Gundam mg is from 2000 it shows it's age but it's amazingly solid and I'd say a great beginner build despite the screws and ball joints
I started gunpla in the mid 90's having only seen a few images of the animated gundam series. Manga were rare as well. So when I saw the first hg F91 1/100 models I was blown away and instantly in love. I just got back to building a couple of models during the lock down and I totally agree, the quality has been skyrocketing since then. Nice video, thx👌
THOSE ARE DRY-TRANSFER DECALS! YOURE USING THEM WRONG They aren't stickers. They work sorta like dry-tattoos, you put them over where you want, use something like a dull pencil, and rub over the decal, remove the plastic and it will stay.
uhhh no they arent. lol the green back is older sticker color, and plus hes familiar with dry transfers (mg f91 2.0 vid for evidence.) theyre just really shitty stickers lmao
this was my first kit as a kid! i bought it at Walmart when they carried gunpla during the American toonami days. i played with it too much and everything fell off but it held up better than any of the 144 wing gunplay i got shortly after.
Honestly, the 2001 God Gundam was my very first master grade and what brought me to master grade in the first place so I love those kits for nostalgic reasons...
I'm must agree with you. I started building Gundams in 02 stopped in 05 and just started again last year and there's a BIG difference. My older kits feel cheap and was definitely lose compared to my newer ones. Gundam stepped up their game and I'm happy with the results
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I love the design of the Master Gundam and saw this vid as a bit of a challenge ;) I enjoyed the build well enough but it is definitely old-school feeling - and those gates were rough combined with the old plastic. It looks absolutely amazing sitting above my monitor right now though!! LOVE the presence the wings add.
One of only two kits I've put together that is currently sitting in its box rather than on a shelf. It just has too many rattling parts that falls off too easily. I tried rebuilding it - stripping it to the inner frame and gluing the problem bits where possible, but the shoulders are just a nightmare to try and deal with and I eventually scrapped the project. I may go back to it when I have more than an almost-year of building experience. It looks cool. It was my first MG. I'd love to display it. Might have to bust out the superglue eventually. ...Oh, and if you're wondering, the other boxed kit is the RG Zeta, which I tried a similar reconstruction project on that ended when I remembered how flimsy the leg-to-waist joint is.
I have 2 MG kits from the early to mid 2000's and I love them though that is for different reasons. The first of these kits is my Aile Strike from '03, it was my first kit that I built so I butchered one of the beam sabers like a fool and the V fin fell off and I lost it but I still had a blast building it and I went back to do some touching up to it a few month back to clean up the nubmarks I left on it and fix my horrific sanding job. The second is the Wing Zero E.W from '05 that i only built a few months ago and that was another fun build that I have in the iconic firing pose. These 2 kits are solid and looks great, so to me what matters most when building is the enjoyment I get when building both of my early 2000's kits don have the articulation of my RG collection or even my newer MGs but I love them all the same.
The God Gundam that came out at the same time was my first MG and will always have a special place in my heart, might have to pick this up just for the Master Asia statue to go along with my Domon
my preference for folks is be wary of anything before 2006, that's when the MG OYW RX-78 came out iirc and it was fantastic and set a standard from that moment on.
I would have to say anything before 2000 is too old to enjoy without a lot of work. I bought an hg gundam aesclepius model and every gold piece was a sticker (including the entire vfin). Not to mention the backpack connector was warped to the point of breaking the transformation right out of the box. The claws are fecking great though! Very solid folding mechanism.
Some opinions of me as a long-time Gunpla painter. I wish there will never be any rubber parts in Gunpla. They are hard to fix if there are any defects. You can't scribe them. Paints do not hold on to them. If Bandai does bring back this many rubber parts onto a Gunpla, I will only buy one if it comes with standard plastic replacement parts, like the revive Zaku.
My favorite old MG is the RX-79[G] Ground Type, and the variants (Ground GM Custom, EZ-8, etc.) Despite being old they're super solid and having some elements of actual inner frame detail is pretty neat for kits that old.
you know, this is quite a interesting review, its fun to see someone review the kit from a modern view. Especially since i saw another review looking at the kit with a "when it came out" view. I quite enjoyed this review
I build mostly HG so my rule of thumb is 2011-2012. When we transition from 00 to AGE and Unicorn. I actually started building in that period, but I've built a lot of 00 kits back then.
i got a 23yo GP01 ma first mastergrade , i honestly did not notice it was so old , a guy in a fbgroup pointed that out when i posted about ma haul . now, the build went rly rly well love the look of it , got it on ma desk as a "desk budy" watching over the future builds ^^
I had a bias against older kits but always really really wanted to get the MG Shining and God Gundams. Pulled the trigger (super cheap so that helped)and really loved them both. Will say. The super glossy plastic of the older kits might put some people off, but other some matte topcoat can't fix.
This kit was my very first kit and I thought it was awesome I never noticed the year on it the articulation is cool and I wish all mg kits came with rubber feet
My favorite old kit was ironically the EZ8. My very first Gunpla, a present from my Japanese language teacher (sensei) when she took a vacation back to japan
As someone starting from the first movie and working thru the entire anime series rn... thats exactly been my experience lately seeing random cool suits I want to build
From my own experience, anything from before 1989 is rough going. I've built kits from the original MS Gundam, Zeta, and ZZ; and they all required almost complete painting along with glue and screws. The Char's Counterattack and 0083 kits were better, but the plastic was a bit hard and brittle. Gundam 0080 kits, which were my first full-scale Gunpla, were where they were actually enjoyable to build. I'd have to say some of my favorite older Gunpla were the old 1/144 V-Gundam kits. They had inner frames that made part swapping possible, hard points for creative weapon storage, clear beam saber and shield parts, and even display stands with postcard-sized backdrops.
I have been into the hobby for around 12 years now and around 500 model kits in my collection, I actually enjoy older kits the simplicity of them makes them a breeze to build. Not some convoluted layers upon layers of just hidden inner frame. My least favorite is the 1/60 V2, 1/100 MG GPO1, GP01FB gundam which really showed its age in terms of the plastic used felt really toy like, unlike the recent matte/satin-finished plastics. But then again to each their own.
I find my self to be fairly diverse as to what kits I build. Anything from stuff that came out this year all the way back to g gundam. So long as you know what to expect for each era, you won’t be disappointed
The Master Gundam Really deserves its own Hi Res version just like the God Gundam
Yes! And we need a gold version for Super Mode!
True
The Hi Res God Gundam's legs are all calves and no shins. disgusting.
I would really want one for the Nobel Gundam or the Shining Gundam so we could have the iconic pose of Burning Gundam carrying one of them.
Not really a Hi-Res, but a new HG/MG/RG of him, he's too awesome to be forgotten like that
I think his last HG was from 2011
Just my opinion: if you want a serious project - nothing is too old; if you want a weekend build - anything before 2012 is too old
I imagine those seam lines could be fixed with plastic cement, and of course you'd need to then paint it. Either way it's definitely not straight build material.
I can't imagine him doing any actual serious projects, I even expect much less with him doing resin kits.
@@JTruong3rd which is cool
Nah, many of the MG 2.0 style kits between 2005 and 2011 are still up to par, though kits from that time did have their variance in quality.
Oh I guess the MG Zeta gundam 2.0 is not complicated to build.
The chest piece isnt ment to open to reveal a pilot its ment to collapse into the body to allow the arms to more naturally cross over themselves.
*Mecha looks at rock
Mecha, "It's as solid as a Gunpla!"
Us stardust memory fans deserve better and that’s a fact.
Need me an RG Physalis and somehow a 2.0 of Zeph/FB
Bold of you to say that on a g gundam video
At least there is the GP02A HG that still holds up to this day.
Here here
aight lemme tell you this. I recently bought a mg gpo01fb and if you put time into it, panel line, paint detail, tighten some joints, its actually a good kit. effort will reward you
Bandai: How much articulation?
Master Gundam: Yes
What makes a kit too old?
When the HG Kits had pegs in the arm sockets.
THIS! I still can't forgive Bandai for the Tristan!
I mean have you seen the hg Age 1 that thing is a kind with poses
Reminds me of my HG Zaku 2 from 2000, one of my first kits. It doesn't even have a waist articulation! Torso, waist and hips are all one piece
high grade/no grade (forgot which) dinn from seed. doesn't even have elbow or knee articulation, not to mention sh@t color accuracy, even with stickers, and it doesn't even have the proper number of wings. My only regret buy
@@porakiyadraekojin3390 no grade or first grade I think is what you are referring to
I got the red frame from that line great looking detail but no color accuracy and no movement in the arms and legs except where they combine with the body
Buying old kits is a great way to put things in perspective! You can't appreciate how great a 2019 or 2020 kit is without having built one from the mid 90s.
This kit is really awesome if you want to pose kits repeatedly. But other than that and the height you should get the hg. And if you want to see how good an old mg is, just go to dalong since some of the older kits have higher scores than modern kits. And the ball was the first kit to get a perfect score of 100. Oh and the g-gundam kits were the first mg to have inner frames.
I think all the old kit is still better than a mechanicore kit lol
Dalong, while being incredibly useful for references, is just another guy's website with his opinions. The fact that he gave higher scores to older kits is subjective, just like Mecha's rating here.
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My first kit was the MG Strike Freedom full burst. I got the MG Freedom 2.0 afterwards and wow the difference. The level of detail was so much better on the Freedom 2.0. Well because of that I started paying attention to the year of production.
True story: the old plastic so sharp, it cut my fingers...what makes a kit too old? You have the mg full burnern? It's floppy and less detailed...and the plastics when you cut the nubs have this old plastic feeling...too hard or too brittle.
The Full Burnern has nothing against the mg physalis. Mine goes ragdoll mode, can't hold the shield, hand socket would just pop out. when holding the bazooka, the hip and leg joints are so loose, it cant hold the mobile suit in a standing pose even without shield and bazooka.
What makes kit too old?? When the kit is still needing cement to hold together(no snapfit). The vintage Gunpla from 80s is the real deal.
I own the full burnern mg, bought it earlier this year, all I had to do extra effort wise was to remove nubs, tighten the legs up and then just panel line and add decals. really if you put effort no kit can be too horrible
We need HG and MG 2.0 versions of a lot of G Gundam kits, including this one.
Where's my Tequila gundam
I need a revive Shining Gundam
Dude id kill for that. But you know if they did they would all have skinny arms and legs and tiny heads and look pathetic. Cant put into words how much id love a Shining Gundam that has the old HG 1/100's proportions and anime accurate bulk but awesome articulation and detail plus a nice big clear green shining finger and undergated gold parts for the hypermode parts. Im gettin hyped just imagining it rn but i know it will never happen.
@@Zaku186 it'd happen. Just sooner or later.
@@christophermercaldi8616 its been like 20 years man. Idk. I legit might die of old age before they make it. Bandai has kicked the remains of my childhood so many times im really starting to not care anymore.
I’d say 2005 onward is mostly good, a lot of the 2.0s were released then and they’re fanatics in my opinion. And personally I like the G Gundam master grades, but I just want Bandai to make hg revives of all the gundams from G Gundam.
Don’t we all.
>How old it too old
Me buying non-gundam kits from the early 70s: "Welp"
I'm really interested in older kits and so far my favorite 90s Gunpla kit is 1/100 Zollidia from Victory Gundam.
16:42 You insult me. Domon mourns his master when he is finally defeated.
Dude, its just for the video.
For how old it is, it's still a pretty solid kit, just like Gundam MK II ver 2.0
Same as GP02A Physalis, the only downside to it is its shield being too heavy and no way to hold it
For HGs I'd say that season 1 of 00 and before is where you really need to start putting in the elbow grease to make them shine.
MGs, I'd say around 2007ish is my cutoff point. That's the period where we started getting some really amazing stuff like the Zaku II 2.0 and the Turn A.
For me, this is my philosophy on Master Grade Kits
Must be accurate to the source material (in terms of how it looks.)
I need to REALLY love the design of the machine
The mobile suit needs to have amazing gimmicks
The mobile suit needs to be a fun and satisfying build
The articulation needs to be amazing
It needs to be better than a high grade or real grade of the same machine
Master Gundam already failed at 1 as the wings don't fold over into a cloak...
TBF how hard would it be to have the wings be transformable in a MG kit?
I think the High Grade did it better by having the wings and the cloak be separate pieces. It's more stable that way.
My very first 3 kits were actually the HG 1/100 Wing zero TV, HG 1/100 Gundam Deathscythe, and the HG 1/100 Deathscythe Hell. I took an over 20 year break before getting back into building.
The oldest kit I have is the HG Z'gok mass production type. It was certainly an experience and while not all the parts lined up perfectly and the nub placement sucked, it turned out awesome. I really learnt a lot about sanding and found new ways to improve by working on a kit with so many large curved parts. The monoeye being static is the biggest knock against it but honestly isn't that bad. I gave it a matt topcoat and it looks dope up on my shelf. I don't think a kit is too old it's all about how much work you want to put into it.
This is a great perspective to have when it comes to modeling! No such thing as a wasted project!
@@Tomtenthemech yeah, even now it's still one of my favs. It's not perfect but the techniques I developed for sanding curved parts with flat sanding sticks have helped me immensely. Some kits are defo worse than others, but I think each one can teach you something if you're willing to commit to it. Even the RG Zeta... probably
as someone who collects older mg kits, this is a godsend in my eyes for the time, then again I can see your bias against older kits as you have little to no experience with them
Y’know I was dreading your review on this knowing how bad you review older kits like these, but after hearing your verdict, I respect what you said because it seems you finally took into better consideration of how old this kit is.
As someone who started building Gunpla since the early Seed days and tried out the few older MGs like these, I’m already aware of what they’re limited to compared to what we’re getting nowadays. But like you said, people who only recently got into Gunpla might not appreciate them anymore because of their age. But that doesn’t mean people should start hating on older kits, just be more aware of their limits and work your way around them.
Hopefully going forward you keep up this consideration on future releases, especially with some releases still having bases/retools on older models.
6:53 for anyone interested in some brief Gaikotsu gunpla asmr.
What makes a kit old? It's been removed from production. So long as you enjoy putting it together, and you can be happy with what you made in the end, no kit is any less relevant than the other. Yes, that does mean I'm saying that the mg 00 is comparable to the rg unicorn. I've never built a kit that I wasn't proud of, and I loved every minute of every kit I own. Including those two. That being said, I did enjoy some kits more than others.
You’ve got to paint that rubber Master Asia and check back in with us.
I just built this kit and I love it. If you paint it and give it some love it can shine and be awesome.
In my opinion the older kits aren't as detailed, articulated or colour separated as mot of the newer ones but sometimes its just nice to build one for a different experience or a quick weekend build
My first MG was the RX-78-2 granddaddy Gundam. The original, v.1.
And it was super awesome, it had opening hatches on the head, arms, and legs, and an opening cockpit. It was so amazing, and I was heartbroken when I left it behind at a hotel when I was on a trip.
You should build one just to appreciate how far Master Grade has come.
Anyone ever think about how much he says "A little a bit on the ______ side" ?
Lol
Count the times he says ‘awesome’ on average.
Every youtuber has their repeat words. I do find it annoying but then I remind myself that normal people are less cynical and find genuine joy in these things and that makes me happy.
@@Smilomaniac lol yeah everyone has a few words they just say a lot, I don't find it all that annoying but it's just funny when you notice it haha
He repeats "absolutely" over and over.
That’s a replacement word when he say ‘VIGOROUS’ in every of his old videos.
and don't forget "as solid as a rock!"
I currently own the HG Master Gundam and Fuunsaiki, and it's amazing. It has a relatively big sticker sheet, and Fuunsaiki requires some yellow paint, but I DON'T CARE. THIS KIT IS AMAZING.
Fuunsaiki is brittle, I ended up breaking the legs building it :/ need some putty to finish it. But the Master Gundam itself is excellent. Little top heavy with the wings but it's such a nice looking piece once put together
@@mecha_nemesis_6897 The main problem with Fuunsaiki is the hollow pegs for the balljoints in the front legs
7:44 you don't even need to use the decals. In the anime, the Master Gundam didn't have those symbols on it.
I'm currently building the MG GP01Fb. I believe it was released in 1997. It's kind of fun building kits from so long ago.
I like the whole thing of this kit except the head and the hand, also try to search in google "Gundam Kamiki Burning Kai World Champ" it is too cool, but its not official, just a costume build gundam
that custom build is pretty cool indeed
I’m currently building the MG GP01, I’ve been building a long long time. I love the nostalgia. And with Gunpla or model building in general using the right tools is so important. I’ve built lots of kits with under gating I bet I could build this perfectly. And it was the shit back in 2002. We were thankful for having a MG that looked that good.
Old will never be too old
@Tesla-Effect lol everybody is not 7.
I got this when I saw it on the rack of a gaming store. When I opened the box, I was surprised by three things:
-The card with Master Gundam on top was pretty neat
-Master Asia was also really neat
-Screws?
The screws was the first indication that this was an older kit, and was surprised to learn that the kit is older than me. Regardless, I started to build and I had a fine time with it. While I am not going to defend the rubber or anything, I will defend this kit by saying I had fun building it. Its currently the crown jewel of my small but growing Gunpla collection
contemporary kits: go
2010's kits: still safe, mostly nothing mindblowing but there's plenty of gems in there
2000's kits: kind of a mixed bag, not necessarely bad but they'll need some love to be on par with later kits, wouldn't recommend for a first timer but not so bad and more often than not your only chance of getting a kit of a specific ms
anything pre-2000: unless this is really the only possibility to get that specific ms, avoid like the plague.
like if there's a 2000's kit that looks similar enough to be customized into what you're looking for go for that instead even if you suck at customizing.
Proto-Gunpla: IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!
The 2000s, if it's a 2.0, it' mostly on par with modern kits. Case in point Zaku 2.0, or Zeta 2.0. But yeah, some are pretty bad.
I dunno, I liked the HG Z’Gok and Zeong, even if both have RGs.
Building the old MG Spiegel Gundam right now. Impressed, even with the screws. Based on time and sense of accomplishment, I actually focus on the 90's No Grade G Gundam kits, and older HG kits, with a lot of painting. Takes time, but worth it.
I donno how old is too old but you collabing with StudioG would be super cool!!!!
If your really want to support Justin you should subscribe to the Gsquad channels.
I recently built the HGFC Master Gundam. I personally recommend that one instead of the MG, it's near the same base, just instead of the the good wire it comes with A WHOLE HORSE. It also comes with a mini Master Asia, on 1/144 scale even. The horse doubles as a stand and its also made with the HGFC God Gundam in mind
no gunpla is old, the year of release does not matter, it's the enjoyment while building it
I think I agree with what you're trying to say but I also think that age is a valid factor when you're trying to decide on whether to buy a kit
this just proves how bandai is improving their kits overtime
Yes. Like the HGCE Strike Freedom (2016) outclasses the RG Strike Freedom (2013)
Can you tell me who the red demon girl is at 2:08.
@@shaggybuddzz6369 custom fumina
Nothing like starting your Gunpla hobby back in 2000 with the MG Zeta, omg...
5:08 The Gold-Plated version is the Master Gundam's Hyper Mode
Which is tripled the price of this...and isn't the correct color of gold because the Hyper Mode in the anime is more of an orangish shade of gold or amber color to me
@@austinhall6002 It was the same price as the regular version actually. This was before The dreaded P-Bandai existed. All of those other Strike variants would have been P-Bandai if it had existed at the time.
Early 2000s gunplas are, IMO, the best kits for those learning customization or just painting.
1. its not too expensive, even if you messed up, it wont burn through your pocket.
2. Detailing are often a challenge. So that you'll learn how to deepen panel lines, removing nub marks and mold lines, detailing paintings, etc, from many many parts with such problems. after you're done with one, you'll have better experience and skill to use for another model.
Well, atleast you didn't have to build the HG Mint GM from 2 0 0 1.
Hg gm revive when dear god
The toothpick beam saber, oh my gosh
I love older kits ngl, its really cool its like living through the history of the way gunpla kits are engineered, really ads context to the newers stuff and adds to it a lot, IMO, but ik its not for everyone
Honestly idc if its old or not. If it looks cool I'm set.
Same
Agree but i need solidness and articulation
Ok maybe not articulation but definitely solidness (or zero percent polycaps) cuz if looks was everything almost every kit would be nothing but looking pretty or a hand grenade
@@thatmotivatedchris6749 only solidness
But every year its get expensive even more?
Bingo!
8:11 that's not a cockpit gimmick, it's for doing the g gundam arm cross pose and the gimmick is present on all g gundam mgs
needs a MG 2.0 or Hi-Res treatment for the anniversary of G Gundam along with the Master Asia memes.
Anything can be a masterpiece with enough patience and skill. There was a gentleman I knew that completely remodeled the non grade 1/144 gp02 from the 90s. The end product looked like a rg. He gave the same treatment to aoshima's shin getter 2 from 1997.
The fact that the first model kit I built was the MG Gundam Spiegel, I don’t think there is such a thing as too old of a kit. My belief is, the older the kit, the more work it will need.
Kind of similar thoughts, but I'm more fond of the mechanically impressive kits.
Only things I'll absolutely refuse to touch are the no grades...
@@DCG909 agreed, I’ve built the 1/100 HG wing kits, because they’re the only way to build the TV designs, and they were complete garbage.
I've built the GP01 and God Gundam MG's just this year. They were a blast. I even have the MG Master Gundam on my desk right now. Can't wait to finish it and, yes, the little rubber Master Asia is great, please Bandai bring them back.
I say check out the HG of this guy, along with the Shinning and God versions
I was thinking about snagging the HGFC set with Master and Fuunsaiki. So they are solid kits like I'm hoping?
@@snukastyle actually built it a couple weeks ago, still a really solid kit.
@@DrDevice81 Nice! Ill have to snag it after the holidays.
@@DrDevice81 good kit, just be careful with Fuunsaiki. The plastic on it is a bit brittle. The gundam is amazing tho
My first Master Grade was a Spiegel which i got new in 2002. I also purchased a MG Zaku II High mobility which is from 1999. what a world of difference. The Spiegel had its inner frame and blew me away, where as the Zaku is pretty much a 1/100 model with a few more detail, no inner frame. Also this was the Black Tri-Stars variant and the whole lower leg needed color correction. That model sat on the shelf until recently while i am trying to give it a nice custom paint job.
Nice. I think old kits need 2.0s because they have really ancient tech. Anything before 2009 needs a 2.0.
I mean, apart from the pre-2009 2.0's lmfao
@@kosmokat111 Yeah those need 3.0s or Ver Kas
@@malcay5550 i think most of the 2.0s hold up very well by today’s standards, i get the 3.0 gundam has more detail and part seperation but several kits before 2010 are fantastic as straight builds. Gundam Mk. 2, Zaku 2, etc
@@worm8550 Agreed. Certain 2.0s are pretty solid kits.
@@malcay5550 Honestly nah, the 2.0's are still incredibly good kits across the board basically
As someone who primarily collects HGs and has more than a hundred from over the decades, here are my thoughts:
Theres a line before and after Universal Hip Joints were used, which you can use as a general indication if a kit is still good for today or not. The indicator kits are the HG Gundam 00 from HG00 and HG FA Gundam 7th from HGUC, both were released in 2008. All the HGs released before these two uses balljoint hips, are generally less articulated, less part separated, and usually more disproportionate than those that came after them. 90s & 2000s kits are known to be disproportionate to the original lineart and generally not great, but are serviceable when theres no other kit released of the design. There are exceptions, however, like the HGUC Nu which still holds up for almost being completely part separated (especially the funnels) and had a higher quality which made it very innovative for its time [it wouldve been Gundarium tier at the time]. However, despite being older, 80s kits are actually pretty good especially for their time, and yes, 80s kits generally had higher quality than what weve seen released in the 90s.
"Too old to get enjoyment out of"? That's ridiculous, people even found enjoyment out of the HGUC Tristan, Gunpla is freedom man, if you like the MS then nothing is truly "too old"
I've only recently got into Gunpla, but I picked up a few of the newer HG kits, as well as two of the old Turn A kits because the designs were so cool, and the difference in the build experience was immense. I still love the Mobile Sumo I built, but nothing frustrated me more than those thin plastic connecting pegs snapping.
7:18 Master Gundam is in SUCH A WEIRD SPOT when it comes to "color accuracy." Every kit of the Master Gundam features the body armor as a dark navy blue, but in the anime, the body armor is jet black. I like it better with the jet black armor, so I painted them on the HG.
The blue on the head, arms, and legs NEEDS to be completely Matte. NO GLOSS. I think it also needs to be slightly darker. I am a purist.
Thats why I painted mine black and black-grey because in most scenes it was two different shades of black.
The RX-79 Ground Gundam mg is from 2000 it shows it's age but it's amazingly solid and I'd say a great beginner build despite the screws and ball joints
The best pilot of them all: the nut
I started gunpla in the mid 90's having only seen a few images of the animated gundam series. Manga were rare as well. So when I saw the first hg F91 1/100 models I was blown away and instantly in love. I just got back to building a couple of models during the lock down and I totally agree, the quality has been skyrocketing since then. Nice video, thx👌
Wait I thought the winner of the giveaway would be announced today
He did by using quantum brainwaves
Good thing I got into the hobby by starting with an old kit and didn't expect much out of it.
THOSE ARE DRY-TRANSFER DECALS!
YOURE USING THEM WRONG
They aren't stickers. They work sorta like dry-tattoos, you put them over where you want, use something like a dull pencil, and rub over the decal, remove the plastic and it will stay.
uhhh no they arent. lol the green back is older sticker color, and plus hes familiar with dry transfers (mg f91 2.0 vid for evidence.) theyre just really shitty stickers lmao
I have a strike freedom gundam made in 2008 (the extra finish version). It’s one hell of a kit and is one of my all time favourite gunpla.
Mecha should've gotten the Shining or God Gundam
I think he will get it soon
He already has just watch the aile strike video and look closely in the start of the video
he has both of them
this was my first kit as a kid! i bought it at Walmart when they carried gunpla during the American toonami days. i played with it too much and everything fell off but it held up better than any of the 144 wing gunplay i got shortly after.
Guess someone learned from their Facebook post
Just got this kit a few months back as a lover of g gundam I had to, was pleasantly surprised at how much I love it tho
review more old stuff so people buying old stuff have a review
Recommend that he builds the old MSV Recon Zaku or Madea.
Honestly, the 2001 God Gundam was my very first master grade and what brought me to master grade in the first place so I love those kits for nostalgic reasons...
i like master gundam alot its look cool and im the one who coment this farist
weird flex but okay
and it can ranged-bitch slap you
@@bagusadjie4522 slap who
@@buraphadtangsinsoophagoon9445 basically anyone since it is evil
@@bagusadjie4522 even are self
I'm must agree with you. I started building Gundams in 02 stopped in 05 and just started again last year and there's a BIG difference. My older kits feel cheap and was definitely lose compared to my newer ones. Gundam stepped up their game and I'm happy with the results
I WILL FINALLY BE THE ULTIMATE CHAMPION
THE UNDEFEATED OF THE EAST, WEST, SOUTH, NORTH, AND CENTER
I WILL BECOME SUPER ASIA
AND BE CHAMPION OF ALL
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I love the design of the Master Gundam and saw this vid as a bit of a challenge ;) I enjoyed the build well enough but it is definitely old-school feeling - and those gates were rough combined with the old plastic. It looks absolutely amazing sitting above my monitor right now though!! LOVE the presence the wings add.
I basically just want the new stuff...pass on the older kits
One of only two kits I've put together that is currently sitting in its box rather than on a shelf. It just has too many rattling parts that falls off too easily. I tried rebuilding it - stripping it to the inner frame and gluing the problem bits where possible, but the shoulders are just a nightmare to try and deal with and I eventually scrapped the project. I may go back to it when I have more than an almost-year of building experience. It looks cool. It was my first MG. I'd love to display it. Might have to bust out the superglue eventually.
...Oh, and if you're wondering, the other boxed kit is the RG Zeta, which I tried a similar reconstruction project on that ended when I remembered how flimsy the leg-to-waist joint is.
1st
congrats
Yes you are first
Shining Gundam was my first Master Grade, I recently bought this and God Gundam for throwback Nostalgia builds.
this is what happened when you barely buy kotobukiya model kit, aoshima model kit, tamiya model kit.
whining, whining, and whining.
I have 2 MG kits from the early to mid 2000's and I love them though that is for different reasons. The first of these kits is my Aile Strike from '03, it was my first kit that I built so I butchered one of the beam sabers like a fool and the V fin fell off and I lost it but I still had a blast building it and I went back to do some touching up to it a few month back to clean up the nubmarks I left on it and fix my horrific sanding job. The second is the Wing Zero E.W from '05 that i only built a few months ago and that was another fun build that I have in the iconic firing pose. These 2 kits are solid and looks great, so to me what matters most when building is the enjoyment I get when building both of my early 2000's kits don have the articulation of my RG collection or even my newer MGs but I love them all the same.
The HG OO Gundam is my favorite old kit. Why, looks, proportions, articulation and build. Still holds up with today's standards.
The God Gundam that came out at the same time was my first MG and will always have a special place in my heart, might have to pick this up just for the Master Asia statue to go along with my Domon
my preference for folks is be wary of anything before 2006, that's when the MG OYW RX-78 came out iirc and it was fantastic and set a standard from that moment on.
I would have to say anything before 2000 is too old to enjoy without a lot of work. I bought an hg gundam aesclepius model and every gold piece was a sticker (including the entire vfin). Not to mention the backpack connector was warped to the point of breaking the transformation right out of the box. The claws are fecking great though! Very solid folding mechanism.
Some opinions of me as a long-time Gunpla painter. I wish there will never be any rubber parts in Gunpla. They are hard to fix if there are any defects. You can't scribe them. Paints do not hold on to them. If Bandai does bring back this many rubber parts onto a Gunpla, I will only buy one if it comes with standard plastic replacement parts, like the revive Zaku.
My favorite old MG is the RX-79[G] Ground Type, and the variants (Ground GM Custom, EZ-8, etc.) Despite being old they're super solid and having some elements of actual inner frame detail is pretty neat for kits that old.
you know, this is quite a interesting review, its fun to see someone review the kit from a modern view. Especially since i saw another review looking at the kit with a "when it came out" view. I quite enjoyed this review
I build mostly HG so my rule of thumb is 2011-2012. When we transition from 00 to AGE and Unicorn. I actually started building in that period, but I've built a lot of 00 kits back then.
i got a 23yo GP01
ma first mastergrade , i honestly did not notice it was so old , a guy in a fbgroup pointed that out when i posted about ma haul .
now, the build went rly rly well
love the look of it , got it on ma desk as a "desk budy"
watching over the future builds ^^
I had a bias against older kits but always really really wanted to get the MG Shining and God Gundams. Pulled the trigger (super cheap so that helped)and really loved them both. Will say. The super glossy plastic of the older kits might put some people off, but other some matte topcoat can't fix.
This kit was my very first kit and I thought it was awesome I never noticed the year on it the articulation is cool and I wish all mg kits came with rubber feet
Favorite old kit: HG RX-78-2 Ver.30th
Reason: I like that it has lots of panel line despite it is a semi-Revive HG
My favorite old kit was ironically the EZ8. My very first Gunpla, a present from my Japanese language teacher (sensei) when she took a vacation back to japan
As someone starting from the first movie and working thru the entire anime series rn... thats exactly been my experience lately seeing random cool suits I want to build
This was the question I asked myself when I bought my first ever kit, the HG Zudah, which was made in 2006.
From my own experience, anything from before 1989 is rough going. I've built kits from the original MS Gundam, Zeta, and ZZ; and they all required almost complete painting along with glue and screws. The Char's Counterattack and 0083 kits were better, but the plastic was a bit hard and brittle. Gundam 0080 kits, which were my first full-scale Gunpla, were where they were actually enjoyable to build.
I'd have to say some of my favorite older Gunpla were the old 1/144 V-Gundam kits. They had inner frames that made part swapping possible, hard points for creative weapon storage, clear beam saber and shield parts, and even display stands with postcard-sized backdrops.
I have been into the hobby for around 12 years now and around 500 model kits in my collection, I actually enjoy older kits the simplicity of them makes them a breeze to build. Not some convoluted layers upon layers of just hidden inner frame. My least favorite is the 1/60 V2, 1/100 MG GPO1, GP01FB gundam which really showed its age in terms of the plastic used felt really toy like, unlike the recent matte/satin-finished plastics.
But then again to each their own.
I find my self to be fairly diverse as to what kits I build. Anything from stuff that came out this year all the way back to g gundam. So long as you know what to expect for each era, you won’t be disappointed