House of the Dragon: The Most Shocking Death Won't Be Shown On TV! What Happened To Aerea Targaryen?

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  • @TalkingThrones
    @TalkingThrones  4 роки тому +191

    The person in the thumbnail is not Aerea Targaryen. I couldn't find a good image of her character, so I just went with one I liked. Thanks for checking out my video! Have a great Christmas, everyone! 🎄

    • @AlsheikhAhmedElhady
      @AlsheikhAhmedElhady 4 роки тому +15

      Actually, the most interesting part of this video is the end.... What could've cause the wounds on Balerion(sorry about spelling)? I hope we find out. WOW!

    • @racistrobinhood
      @racistrobinhood 4 роки тому +4

      First like on vid bro. U got you

    • @mdhasan-bt9mb
      @mdhasan-bt9mb 4 роки тому +4

      So who or what creature did this great harm to them?

    • @anthonyappleyard5688
      @anthonyappleyard5688 4 роки тому +8

      @@mdhasan-bt9mb Some sort of Valyrian fyrewyrm, likely.

    • @mdhasan-bt9mb
      @mdhasan-bt9mb 4 роки тому +2

      @@anthonyappleyard5688 Yes you are right possibly..... How on hell did Euron greyjoy return from there 😮

  • @kainibus
    @kainibus 2 роки тому +161

    I have a theory. In short, Aerea was likely surviving on the scraps that balerion left her, since we know she survived a year with him. The things he fed on likely had parasites that would have normally infected dragons. The worms inside her were parasites meant to inhabit dragons and not humans, and eventually she was so full of them that it killed her.

    • @jwjw832
      @jwjw832 2 роки тому +3

      This is the most reasonable and intelligent explanation, I agree. Respect ✊🏻

    • @lukecampbell1449
      @lukecampbell1449 2 роки тому +1

      That's exactly what i thought, they were so hot that only a dragon would be able to keep they alive inside it's body.

    • @marko0marko0marko01
      @marko0marko0marko01 Рік тому +3

      What explain balerion wounds then

    • @channelrandom2225
      @channelrandom2225 Рік тому

      @@marko0marko0marko01 fire wyrm

    • @eleenuPele
      @eleenuPele Рік тому +2

      I have red and watched so many videos about this and by far you have the most reasonable and best answer.

  • @meghaprajapati3140
    @meghaprajapati3140 4 роки тому +246

    Maybe the dragons have an instinct to return to their birthplace.. remember Balerion was the only dragon that came from Valyria.. Meraxes and Vhagar were hatched on dragonstone.. so it makes sense that Drogon would take Daenerys back to where he was born which is the Dothraki sea

    • @christophertracy7136
      @christophertracy7136 4 роки тому +43

      Drogon took Daenerys Targaryen 2 Volantis where the Red Temple is. I remember how tenderly he picked her up and held her in 1 of his claws. She'll be resurrected by Kinvara.

    • @crawfordbrown75
      @crawfordbrown75 4 роки тому +27

      @@christophertracy7136 bro you high? The story ends there

    • @bekahzogrephos7772
      @bekahzogrephos7772 4 роки тому +22

      @@crawfordbrown75 lmfao you silly af. But let them dream.. ALL OF US! FOR WE SHALL HAVE OUR OWN ENDINGS! Since nothing GOOD became of the 8th season and the last episode. Or maybe G.O.T. PTSD?

    • @meghaprajapati3140
      @meghaprajapati3140 4 роки тому +9

      @@christophertracy7136 for better or worse.. that has ended and you can only hope for a satisfactory end now in the books

    • @redxhand
      @redxhand 2 роки тому +1

      @@crawfordbrown75 lol this age too well xD

  • @stevetobias4890
    @stevetobias4890 4 роки тому +242

    What a horrific way to die, especially for a young lady in her early teens. Blood / black magic seems the only explanation.

    • @seldomsane5278
      @seldomsane5278 4 роки тому +17

      She had the potential to be a great Targaryen too.

    • @rc59191
      @rc59191 2 роки тому +19

      Sounds like she drank the water in Valyria. Lord only knows what attacked Baleriaon maybe a giant fire worm.

    • @InitialPC
      @InitialPC 2 роки тому +9

      she was 12, she was born in the year 42 and went missing in 54

    • @tinahs8269
      @tinahs8269 2 роки тому +6

      I'm betting this experience led to septon Barth's description of firewyrms in his book dragons, wyrms and wyverns

    • @S_047
      @S_047 Рік тому

      Targaryen, nothing of value lost

  • @modmary3527
    @modmary3527 4 роки тому +500

    I believe Balerion took her to Valyria, and she probably fell off into the infested waters, where those creatures hosted inside her body. The Black Dread scooped her up, but was attacked himself, in the process. He flew her back to Kings Landing, as fast, as he could, but it was too late and the Fireworms had already devoured her, from the inside. Horrible 😱

    • @MrsDeeDee313
      @MrsDeeDee313 4 роки тому +43

      Great theory!

    • @whitediamond133
      @whitediamond133 4 роки тому +79

      That or perhaps she drank some of the water.

    • @saymyname2417
      @saymyname2417 4 роки тому +12

      Absolutely agree!

    • @Tonshmar
      @Tonshmar 4 роки тому +18

      @@whitediamond133 Probably this! 💯

    • @modmary3527
      @modmary3527 4 роки тому +17

      @@whitediamond133 Gross!!!! That would be like drinking Asshai water. 🤮

  • @Baratheon.
    @Baratheon. 4 роки тому +76

    Balerion took her to Valyria & i assume Aerea went snooping around into the depths of the deep places there and she & Balerion found horrors beyond imagination. (incl Firewyrms)

  • @maketycry3952
    @maketycry3952 4 роки тому +171

    What caused the doom of Valyria I believe is still there. And if it’s something that can bring as extraordinary a creature as Balerion the black dread to his heels, it’s not something to be disturbed by the realms of men.

    • @melissablackwood
      @melissablackwood 4 роки тому +36

      That's what I keep going back to... something out there is large and ferocious enough to cause a serious injury to Balerion. It's certainly nothing to screw around with, whether it actually caused the Doom or just happens to live in the area. My imagination pictures something along the lines of the kaiju Rodan.

    • @maketycry3952
      @maketycry3952 4 роки тому +21

      @@melissablackwood that’s a good theory, I was thinking more along the lines of dark magic or curse unlike any other of Westeros or Essos. Perhaps it’s both a creature with ancient magic not unlike the others.

    • @animatedink2529
      @animatedink2529 2 роки тому +25

      It's likely a full-grown and ancient Fire Wyrm. Dragons were a hybrid the Valyrians created by mixing wyverns and fire wyrms. Think of these Wyrms as being gigantic and long draconic monsters that can't fly but can burrow in the earth.

    • @jjs1300000
      @jjs1300000 2 роки тому +1

      It might be a dragon or something like a balrog. Regardless, it needs to be left alone.

  • @Regenmacher175
    @Regenmacher175 2 роки тому +20

    The worst thing is, the girl's life had been a total misery from the moment she left KL for Dragonstone and all that only to die the worst death in the entire fictional world of ASOIAF.

  • @RoadKamelot2nd
    @RoadKamelot2nd 3 роки тому +86

    Valyrians were powerful mages. They used magic for literally everything. My assumption is that they pretty much over-saturated the entire area with magical energies. These energies tore apart the Valyrian peninsula and left it a daemon-infested wasteland. Baleryon might have been forced to land by a daemon powerful enough to injure him and while he battled the daemon, lesser ones infested Aerea as parasites. They essentially used her body to feed on during the earliest stadium of growth (akin to the emerald wasp larvae, which hatch from eggs laid into a paralyzed cockroach, which is then eaten alive from the inside by the larvae).
    The closest inhabited city to the former Freehold is Mantarys, and its population is suffering from severe disfigurements and mutations, very likely caused by the still lingering magic energies which manifested as the Doom and obliterated Valyria.

    • @ShredGod7404
      @ShredGod7404 2 роки тому

      Tbh while that could be true that does fit George R. R. Martin’s sense of realistic fantasy with demons and such. Had i not done so much research on this and the other creatures from valyria I’d have probably come to the same conclusion.

  • @drsavage3262
    @drsavage3262 4 роки тому +144

    Any theory about firewyrms infesting her body because Targaryens are the closest things to dragons that a human can be. There's gotta be a connection there somewhere. Maybe I'm wrong but certain creatures need a host to survive and grow. Could be something from southoros but who knows but GRRM.

    • @joshuavincent3515
      @joshuavincent3515 4 роки тому +11

      Check out ASOIAF Theories: Firewyrms and the Strange Case of Aerea Targaryen, Quinn's Ideas. You are not far off.

    • @katgor42
      @katgor42 4 роки тому +4

      Only GRRM and Bran

    • @lilscho
      @lilscho 4 роки тому

      @@joshuavincent3515 thanks for this!

    • @joshuavincent3515
      @joshuavincent3515 4 роки тому

      @@lilscho You are welcome.

    • @rc59191
      @rc59191 2 роки тому +2

      She was in Valyria and probably drank the water there hence the infestation. Not to mention something big attacked Balerion probably one of the giant fire wyrms that live there now.

  • @thisguy8106
    @thisguy8106 4 роки тому +42

    Keep em coming!!

  • @cyerkyres
    @cyerkyres 4 роки тому +52

    I just hope that GRRM finishes this books impeccably and answers all these hanging questions such as what happened to Patched face, or Daemon Targaryen, or to this Princess when she disappeared for that long. Please GRRM focus on this books this will be your legacy.

    • @oasisrules6591
      @oasisrules6591 3 роки тому +1

      Maybe he was found by the Children of the Forest in the Sunset Sea after the battle and became Cold Hands, or Daemon just left Westeros with Nettles, that way everyone would think he was dead, which would have been important considering his dragon was dead!

    • @LuminescentMonk
      @LuminescentMonk 2 роки тому +1

      Or the cotf made him the night king 🤷‍♂️😂

    • @ivonnegallegos58
      @ivonnegallegos58 6 місяців тому

      I think that he won't answer all the questions because some things are better if left to each person's imagination and is that mystery element of no one will ever know what happened that makes it even more eerie

  • @kirabowie
    @kirabowie 4 роки тому +36

    Happy Holidays, Talking Thrones!
    It truly was a horrific death! *shudders*

  • @MrsDeeDee313
    @MrsDeeDee313 4 роки тому +136

    I haven't read any of the books, but I'm guessing she was a victim of black magic. And either she was trying to save the dragon from an attack, or the dragon was trying to defend and protect her, and that's how he was injured before they were able to flee.

    • @lilscho
      @lilscho 4 роки тому +7

      but then the question is: black magic from who? from what?

    • @MrsDeeDee313
      @MrsDeeDee313 2 роки тому +6

      @@lilscho Great question! Back a year later after watching the finale of House of the Dragons. If Valyria is where Balerian was originally from, who or what there would hate them so much as to injure and try to kill him? It's said that other entities or creatures also lived there, most assuredly people who did black magic. I don't think what happened to them was by accident, someone or some thing did this to them. For what purpose or reason, I don't know. Did they know who she was and put the fireworms in her on purpose, in hopes that they would attack other targaryens? Or did they not know who she was and did this as a form of punishment for something she said or did? And then Balerion tried to defend her and was attacked. We hadn't heard about these fireworms since. No other magic user that we've heard of ever brought them for again. It could have been a form of revenge or retaliation against the Targaryens. Because it's such a mystery, it's an interesting story that I think actually should be told in live action.

    • @jjs1300000
      @jjs1300000 2 роки тому +1

      @@MrsDeeDee313 I think someone on purpose captured them and infected Aerea with the parasites.

    • @MrsDeeDee313
      @MrsDeeDee313 2 роки тому +1

      @@jjs1300000 Could have been. But why do you think they did that? Just to experiment, or for some other nefarious reason?

    • @jjs1300000
      @jjs1300000 2 роки тому +2

      @@MrsDeeDee313 Possibly an experiment or to create a dragon.

  • @Mega_vegeta
    @Mega_vegeta 2 роки тому +23

    Belerion went back to the place of birth and i'm betting there are still wild dragons there or at least at the time he went there, Aerea was attacked by some kind of magic fire wasp. Her last words "I never " probably meant never thought i would get home or knew where i was going.

    • @ideozublake8036
      @ideozublake8036 2 роки тому +4

      mutated dragon that somehow lost their wings during the Doom & couldn’t fly perhaps 🤔

    • @andreaalarcon8732
      @andreaalarcon8732 2 роки тому

      @@ideozublake8036 actually supposedly dragons originated from firewyrms

  • @whatalsaid
    @whatalsaid 2 роки тому +35

    Another sad thing was she had a Twin sister who she might've switched places with at some point in time. The twin sister became a Septa, and members of the Targaryen family would often cry when they saw her, because she looked like a mirror image of her dead twin sister.

    • @hendyo_98
      @hendyo_98 2 роки тому +25

      @@ginaflynn910 Princess Aerea has a younger, identical twin sister, Rhaella Targaryen. The theory goes that the two princesses switched places after Aerea had visited her, as her personality seemingly did a 180 degree turn over night.
      Princess Aerea, as a young child, was shy and timid. She was quick to cry and often wet the bed. She was frightened of horses, boys with loud voices, men with beards and dancing and was absolutely terrified of dragons.
      Her sister, Rhaella on the other hand was her complete opposite. She was lively, bold, wilful, quick-witted and adventurous, and was a terror to her septal. She loved dogs, horses and dragons.
      Then seemingly overnight, following the coronation of their uncle Jaehaerys at Oldtown, both girls personalities changed.
      Rhaella became quieter, more obedient and devoted her time to prayer and study.
      Aerea, on the other hand, became lively, bold, adventurous, disobedient, and rude and grew to love animals.
      The sudden change in personalities led to rumours that the girls had swapped places.
      That's what they're talking about.

    • @tonixxinot3199
      @tonixxinot3199 2 роки тому +2

      @@hendyo_98 so you mean 2 say that it might be rhaella who died not aerea😮 just theory yah know😒

    • @hendyo_98
      @hendyo_98 2 роки тому +1

      @@tonixxinot3199 I know it's just a theory. I stated so

  • @gennavandella
    @gennavandella 6 місяців тому +2

    Balerion was attacked in his homeland of Valyria by cannibal.
    In the mist of battle Aerea fell off but landed safely into a the waters below. These waters where warm because of the volcanos around it.
    The waters where surrounded by nest of small eggs. Eggs of firewyrm the original dragons. And because her body was more hotter than the waters some took it upon themselves to make it a incubator.
    Aerea felt the pain of them barrow into her skin and swam as fast she could to the surface and then to land.
    Balerion in the heat of battle heard her screams. And with the bit of rage fought of cannibal. And balerion being bigger had an advantage. But still sustained some injuries that could kill any other dragons.
    Balerion then turned his attention to Aerea and flew down to her aid. She summoned all her strength to climb upon balerion.
    And just in time before the adult firerwyrms came. Balerion knew they both needed help. So he flew them both back to dragonstone. Knowing that's the only place they can both get treated.
    However it took them a while to reach there. And the firerwyrms had already made Aerea's body their temporary home.
    It was by fate she was able to even hold on that long. She was more worried about the dragons wounds than her own. Though Aerea and balerion didn't have a strong bound. Balerion felt her care for him and never gave rest until they both made it.
    And story continues so on.
    In Valyria there lives more creatures of creation by the Valyrian people. Things that of nightmares both magic and science. They created dragons from wyverns and wyrms. And blood magic.
    They even infected themselves with their d.n.a through magic. Some of their children would be born that of scales, wings and tails. Deformation not only of magic but by crossbreeding to carry on the bloodlines.
    To hatch dragons egg that's been turned into stone. One must offer a sacrifice in fire with the dragons egg.
    A life for a life or lives. Dark magic is what binds everything together. And dark magic is what caused the doom. All dark magic comes with a price and they did too much without payment.
    It's a tale of the horrors of men simple sheep herders driven by greed.

  • @maketycry3952
    @maketycry3952 4 роки тому +4

    All I wanted for Christmas was one more video, thanks for granting us one! Merry Christmas!

  • @jsull81
    @jsull81 4 роки тому +76

    If Balerion just wanted to go to Valyria, himself, he could have done that at any time
    My guess is that Balerion picked up on Aerea's immense urge to go home, and to Balerion, home was Valyria so that's where he went

    • @92irishjoe
      @92irishjoe 9 місяців тому +1

      Very very good theory

  • @JustifyTheseHeathens
    @JustifyTheseHeathens 4 роки тому +25

    Jesus that is so terrifying. Martin is a master of the macabre.

  • @stephcollins728
    @stephcollins728 2 роки тому +13

    I think Balerion was most likely returning to his birthplace... someting all dragons of old and "wild" seems to do along their lives. When they are allowed to live outside captivity they seem to go on long travels either alone, or with someone, as we see with Drogon himself. He probably didn't mean to carry this rider, yet Dragons are very human like in their thoughts and intelligence and wont abandon a rider they have bonded with for one reason or another. He had to keep her safe as he possibly could I guess. He came back to possibly Asshai'i, where magic and bloodrights and scarifice of ones own self is all that belongs. There is no children in Asshai'i. None. There is no sunlight. No sounds of life. "Inhabitants" walk around alone, scarce and chanting. Its a very inhuman place where Dragons are still to be believed to inhabit. This is where the Mages and Blood Worms and Worlocks all try and claim their own strong powers... often ending up creating horrific things. Maybe someone or something tried to cease Balerion and The Princess to preform a serious Bloodright ritual? She refused, so the "Blood of The Dragon" and a "Virgin Pure Blood Princess" could of been spilt in some sickening way? She didn't give up her own power it seems so she in turn forfeight her own life... in a horrendous way. Parasidic invasion of herself is obvious. I don't know if this could of happened as a result, or of a result of the inhumane surroundings that not even a Dragon could of Balrions size and strength could get away from unscathed. totally something to do with maybe being called into the depths of a Volcano itself or something... where some infection caught hold. WOW.

  • @christophertracy7136
    @christophertracy7136 4 роки тому +17

    Aerea Targaryen died a horrible death and she suffered 4 weeks since the fireworms infested her. I have a feeling Balerion was attacked by another Dragon. He definitely was in Valyria.

    • @pplr1
      @pplr1 4 роки тому +7

      Or a big fireworm. I believe they can get pretty big.

  • @njgman
    @njgman 4 роки тому +12

    Great video, Dan! Miss the days when there were so many good ones created by fans like you. D & D did a number on the whole GoT experience. Merry Christmas!! ~ Guido

  • @methuselahh_
    @methuselahh_ 2 роки тому +11

    i personally think they were baby firewyrms, they lived deep under the 14 flames so its possible they could have survived the doom, and barths description of them as "worms with faces, snakes with arms" does sound a lot like their description, and it would also explain how hot they were

  • @ronhawks1277
    @ronhawks1277 4 роки тому +11

    I remember reading this part and being really disturbed.

  • @animatedink2529
    @animatedink2529 2 роки тому +10

    No doubt in my mind that Balerion flew to Valyria. What's scary to me is that he returns with like an 8 foot gash that's still bleeding. Something attacked the dragon and managed to make it bleed. And to make an injury of that size can only imply it was something huge, dangerous, and bold. Valyria's not as abandoned as some may believe.

    • @InitialPC
      @InitialPC 2 роки тому +3

      furthermore is that this attack essentially crippled balerion, he was hundreds of years old and could still fly across the narrow sea but after this attack just a few years later he no longer had the strength to leave the city

    • @Hydra-og6jf
      @Hydra-og6jf 2 роки тому +3

      @@InitialPC might be cannibal ,it's not bad to make him bigger than balerion cuz he is not claimed by anyone and the idea that he hunt young dragons.

    • @jjs1300000
      @jjs1300000 2 роки тому

      Maybe it was another dragon and scared Balerion.

  • @melanatedqueen6662
    @melanatedqueen6662 4 роки тому +2

    This is one of the best videos I’ve seen on this story. Thank you 🙏🏾

  • @ibrahimhameed6053
    @ibrahimhameed6053 4 роки тому +16

    I hope somewhere along the road they decide to do a show on the doom of Valyria. Anyways good stuff as always TT ❤

  • @macleunin
    @macleunin 4 роки тому +31

    Sothoryos is also known to have some nasty and deadly creatures and diseases.

    • @patrickdormeus8453
      @patrickdormeus8453 4 роки тому +3

      Valyrians should've burned that entire continent TO THE GROUND but one dragon rider said that after flying for 3 years the land still seemed ENDLESS😰

    • @macleunin
      @macleunin 4 роки тому +4

      @@patrickdormeus8453 yeah, that’s very intriguing, since Martin already said that the World is round, so that Continent has to end at some point. Dragons can cover a very large distance, so in 3 years it should had flown around the globe many times over. Maybe they got lost or flew in circles 🤔

    • @rc59191
      @rc59191 2 роки тому

      She had to of been in Valyria all the clues point to there.

  • @thamizhselvans8076
    @thamizhselvans8076 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for keeping thrones alive happy Christmas❤

  • @anushkadwivedi4702
    @anushkadwivedi4702 4 роки тому +63

    Can we assume Drogon taking Daenerys to the same place?

    • @jarnobrofelt1891
      @jarnobrofelt1891 4 роки тому +16

      No, Drogon take Daenerys to Volantis.

    • @pplr1
      @pplr1 4 роки тому +1

      Don't forget even if Drogon was going to old Valaria (I may be saying the name wrong) that is still another difference between the stories of the book and show. We don't see evidence of the area being haunted by demons in GoT's story, just the books. Thus the situation would not be the same.

    • @lucifer.means.light.bringe738
      @lucifer.means.light.bringe738 4 роки тому +10

      He's actually taking her to volantis, where the red priests have been known to practice resurrections

    • @feralbomustafa7039
      @feralbomustafa7039 3 роки тому

      @@lucifer.means.light.bringe738 WOW, how do you know?

    • @M11969
      @M11969 3 роки тому +2

      @@feralbomustafa7039 Watch Talking Thrones own interpretation with his Season 9. He's been writing great stuff.

  • @InAverySilentWay
    @InAverySilentWay 4 роки тому +3

    Excellent job with the reading! Out of all the deaths in the books or shows this is arguably the most horrifying. It was painful to read this the first time.

  • @thirdhorizon6964
    @thirdhorizon6964 3 роки тому +1

    What an interesting upload, thank you very much.

  • @Moriartart
    @Moriartart 4 роки тому +56

    Hearing that smoke was coming out of even her nether regions made me cringe

    • @Elven.
      @Elven. 4 роки тому +11

      yeah so many male authors can't help themselves it seems. Whenever something weird happens to a woman in their stories it almost always involves something sexually cringey

    • @DieserOli2127
      @DieserOli2127 4 роки тому +18

      @@Elven. nothing sexual about that description at all.

    • @Elven.
      @Elven. 4 роки тому +10

      @@DieserOli2127 yes but I meant that the specificity in which some authors write about the body of female characters is cringy. They need to put some really weird things about the female body for their story to be... I don't know what

    • @proxyvii493
      @proxyvii493 4 роки тому +15

      Would you have preferred it be a male princes urethra?
      Same difference, point being how internally hot said person was.

    • @Elven.
      @Elven. 4 роки тому +3

      @@proxyvii493 no, I wouldn't have preferred it was a male character written like that by a female author let's say. Because I would think such a female author has issues, if I keep seeing a cringy pattern in her writing of male bodies

  • @wyattsmith917
    @wyattsmith917 4 роки тому +1

    Great job 👍 love to hear from you

  • @eyegee6556
    @eyegee6556 4 роки тому +23

    Do you think George will ever reveal what happened? I think that could be his best story yet but I don't think he will ever say what happened

  • @nodatastored684
    @nodatastored684 2 роки тому +4

    This needs to be filmed as a second series while they film the original House of The Dragon, as a spring release

  • @EAraceliMD
    @EAraceliMD 4 роки тому

    Great video as always!! Thank you!!

  • @jimbob8543
    @jimbob8543 4 роки тому

    Great vid TT merry Christmas fella

  • @joshuavincent3515
    @joshuavincent3515 4 роки тому +53

    I think it is safe to say now that we know what those worms were. They were probably the worms the kindly old man spoke about to Arya when he was talking about the birth of the faceless men. Note I am not the original person who thought of it for that video go to Lucifer means light bringer on youtube and check out his origin of dragons.

    • @Tonshmar
      @Tonshmar 4 роки тому +4

      I looked, but didn’t see. 🤔 Is that the actual name of the video? “Origin of Dragons”

    • @joshuavincent3515
      @joshuavincent3515 4 роки тому +12

      @@Tonshmar Yes what I wrote above was wrong this video is by a man named Quinn and it is called ASOIAF Theories: Firewyrms and the Strange Case of Aerea Targaryen, Quinn's Ideas,

  • @kasatka3690
    @kasatka3690 4 роки тому +10

    What are YOUR thoughts about them Talking Thrones? This is so frustrating! An answer Martin may never answer! How did they even survive? She must have been crazy strong to be that messed up, and not only survive, but hang onto him all the way back from wherever 🤯. Crazy. I guess the only answer is obvious, but still!

    • @michelesilva9491
      @michelesilva9491 4 роки тому +3

      @Sir Uther Shett _ yes I was irritated they didn’t use saddles on the show GOT. But in all illustrations of dragons and riders from Agons conquest to the dance they are always using saddles.

    • @kasatka3690
      @kasatka3690 4 роки тому +1

      @Sir Uther Shett _ yes thrue. I realize these are fictional tales, but if I was as near to death as her, I probably wouldn't be able to hang on to my thoroughbreds in their saddles, let alone a dragon in the sky! Lol

  • @rickyblitz9679
    @rickyblitz9679 3 роки тому +6

    I remember watching a video that said there was a being that was rumoured to live in Valyria called The shrouded lord. he's said to live with the stone men and hold dominion over the ruins but I think the princess came into contact with this being, and he used her to send a message to Westeros

  • @Anthooyant89
    @Anthooyant89 4 роки тому +13

    I reckon she drank some sort of contaminated water, which had some small Fire Worm eggs in it. Fire Worms were said to have been similar to the Dragons in size and could breath Fire, but instead of flying they dug through the ground. In the A Dance with Dragon book, the Kindly Man tells Arya about the Fire Worms living in the slave mines and eating the slaves who they came across.

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  4 роки тому +1

      That's not a bad theory. What happened to Balerion then? What gave him the 9 foot gash?

    • @Anthooyant89
      @Anthooyant89 4 роки тому +3

      @@TalkingThrones I believe that it could have been one of the Fire Worms that bit him, or if they have claws maybe they scratch him. It is believed by some of the fandom that the Fire Worms survived the doom because they lived deep underground.

    • @ShredGod7404
      @ShredGod7404 2 роки тому

      And probably laying eggs in others so that their Larvae can grow and mature

  • @johnmontag
    @johnmontag 4 роки тому +7

    Thank you for continuing to make fantastic ASOIAF content!!
    We all know they were in what's left of Valyria. The only other location Belarion knew. I think those creatures were very tiny when they got into her body. Quite possibly through her food or water. While inside, they grew by eating her insides. George didn't tell us anymore about any creature like these... They're obviously not Wyrms. Since they have people's faces, they could be cursed ppl, idk.
    I want to know how "The Crow's Eye" traversed Valyria, if he really went there, so darn badly!!
    Have a great Holiday season!

  • @shaydshani
    @shaydshani 4 роки тому +37

    I always thought that she ended up in Gogossos just thinking of the worms with faces. Since it is rumored that the bloodmages forced enslaved women to bear monstrous creatures fathered by beasts. The Valyrians were the total opposites of the Other. Beautiful fire made flesh. What if they were the results of dragon and human couplings? Until a group of the hybrids is born that are able to pass as human. Unnaturally beautiful in looks but human none the less. As an added bonus since they are the literal blood of the dragon they have a connection with the dragons that no one else can boast. The Targaaryens just happen to have been the sole survivors of this long forgotten history. Either that or she just went to Valyria. 🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @MrsDeeDee313
      @MrsDeeDee313 4 роки тому +14

      That's also another theory I was thinking of as well. What if it was a dragon (or dragons) growing inside of her? I still think she was a victim of black magic, but I didn't consider that it could have been forced coupling with beasts. Damn!!!

    • @saymyname2417
      @saymyname2417 4 роки тому +7

      The Valyrians were closer to the Others in mind than many would want to know...

    • @shaydshani
      @shaydshani 4 роки тому +8

      @@saymyname2417 I know right. I hate what the show did to the Others. They are supposed to be unnaturally beautiful cold people not what the show gave us.

    • @pplr1
      @pplr1 4 роки тому +2

      @@shaydshani Thank you for that point. It may be yet another example of GoT and ASoIF being 2 different stories.

    • @shaydshani
      @shaydshani 4 роки тому +2

      @@pplr1 Even though GoT started out great I felt like it could have been more. Then by the time it ended up being a total dumpster fire I was definitely yelling there was so much more that could have been done or done better. That's o e of the reasons why we won't get Bloodmoon or any other similar series right now. D&D couldn't do abstract and now no one wants to touch anything not 100% backed by source material.

  • @JanuszPea
    @JanuszPea 3 роки тому +2

    Man, I literally just read this just a few minutes ago. So gnarly.

  • @mayr5549
    @mayr5549 4 роки тому +5

    now im curious to the mysterious connection of the doom of valyria to the long night

  • @drd6893
    @drd6893 3 роки тому

    Yaay! I love your channel

  • @drd6893
    @drd6893 2 роки тому

    I’m still amazed at how many ppl have not read the books

  • @anthonyappleyard5688
    @anthonyappleyard5688 4 роки тому +4

    Whether we will see Aerea in the television show, depends likely on whether the television show story starts at the Dance of the Dragons, or at when Aegon I came, or at when Aenar and Daenys Targaryen moved from Valyria to Dragonstone.

  • @replaycrew5024
    @replaycrew5024 4 роки тому +1

    ABSOLUTELY EXCITED JUST WOKE UP TO THIS LITTLE BEAUTY 😘❤👍 THANKYOU SO MUCH TALKING THRONES YOU MADE A GREAT START TO CHRISTMAS EVE. HAPPY CHRISTMAS 🎄 FROM ENGLAND 🇬🇧

  • @RellshouldBsleep
    @RellshouldBsleep 4 роки тому +8

    That is 1 of the 2 questions i still have about blood and fire the other being what was said in the letter to agon that finally ended the war with dorne. All of his kingdom wanted to stay at war common folk and all the nobles and they killed Agon's favorite sister/wife. What ever was in that letter changed his mind and ended the war AFTER agon went to dragonstone? What was in that letter?

  • @justinmcwaters4962
    @justinmcwaters4962 2 роки тому +2

    There a possibility of the basilisk isles? From what I've seen about the southern parts of essos, it's absolutely possible that she wanted to see parts of the world no one had returned from and she might have believed that balerion would make it possible.

  • @whitediamond133
    @whitediamond133 4 роки тому +4

    Rhaena Targaryen story is so tragic. And it's not like she brought those tragedies on herself.

  • @jamiebeam9919
    @jamiebeam9919 Рік тому +1

    My assumption is aerea did become the dragons rider but because balerion was so much older and didn’t have a full bond with aerea that balerion knew aerea wanted to get far away from her mom he was like I know a place. While there he wouldn’t fly back until 2 years later when they were attacked by fire worms balerion got injured and aerea got infected with the young worms. And balerion then flew them back when aerea needed help.

  • @renferal5290
    @renferal5290 2 роки тому +1

    I am currently reading the book and just read this part about Aerea.

  • @MrTonkersT
    @MrTonkersT 4 роки тому

    Very interesting vid thanks man.

  • @rubysultra
    @rubysultra 4 роки тому +13

    WHerever Aerea went with Balerion.....Danaerys is also going with Drogon....dragons have a returning instinct. Danaerys could possibly tolerate the heat that Aerea could not. What was done to Aerea?....she could have been taken to Valyria or even Asshai.

    • @joshuavincent3515
      @joshuavincent3515 4 роки тому +10

      The kindly old man told Arya in a feast for crows about the birth of faceless men. In that story he told her about fire worms. So maybe the worms that were in the princess were one and the same.

    • @MrsDeeDee313
      @MrsDeeDee313 4 роки тому +2

      According to the TV series, do you think that wherever Drogon took her, if her body was able to sustain the heat and fire there, they (or it) could bring her back to life?

    • @punch6515
      @punch6515 4 роки тому +5

      @@jacksparrow9227 not in the books

    • @joshuavincent3515
      @joshuavincent3515 4 роки тому

      @@MrsDeeDee313 If she is going to the same place Arya Targaryen went to I do not think she will survive. The heat in valyria is lava not fire. For more information check out Asoiaf Theories: Firewyrms and the Strange Case of Aerea Targaryen, Quinn's Ideas.

    • @joshuavincent3515
      @joshuavincent3515 4 роки тому

      I was thinking about something along those lines as well.

  • @seldomsane5278
    @seldomsane5278 4 роки тому +3

    Something that could scar Balerion should be feared and respected....

  • @jjs1300000
    @jjs1300000 2 роки тому +2

    I think they encountered demonic like people, like in Mantarys. Balerion may have fought with another dragon, who was mutated and that’s how he got hurt. Whatever happened, it traumatised Balerion.

  • @ubzSS
    @ubzSS 4 роки тому

    and a Merry Christmas to you, my friend. 👍

  • @GSG9Kazmir
    @GSG9Kazmir 6 місяців тому

    We need a book on the detailed adventures of what happened during that year from Aerea Targaryen's point of view with Balerion. What kind of monsters did they encounter and what did they do?? Please!!!!

  • @crystalgee7885
    @crystalgee7885 4 роки тому +3

    I’m here early for the first time 💃 🎶👏👏👍💕

  • @addamaewalker7420
    @addamaewalker7420 4 роки тому

    at 1:20 - is this the horn grrm is talking about in the new sample chapters.

  • @grogubunny
    @grogubunny 9 місяців тому

    Very interesting. I wonder what happened to Valerion that day...

  • @patrickdormeus8453
    @patrickdormeus8453 4 роки тому +3

    Can you imagine what would happen if the wights and white walkers had ventured into Sothoryos?!
    ⚔🏹🛡Nature vs Magic ⚔🛡🏹

  • @jeankristen.thestallion.5489
    @jeankristen.thestallion.5489 4 роки тому +4

    I have a question:
    Will we see Ageon The conquer in House of Dragons 🔥?

  • @sherlockstrange4781
    @sherlockstrange4781 4 роки тому +1

    a lot of goosebumps while reading this in F&B. It almost felt like a horror story for me.

  • @bonnietomlinson6259
    @bonnietomlinson6259 4 роки тому

    Fabulous accounting! One can imagine what happened in reality to the dragon and the princess 👸!

  • @user-us5dr2qi2r
    @user-us5dr2qi2r 3 роки тому +1

    She went off the map to run from her mom. And she was infected with some kind of worm. I remember something about a mass desert. The place Aria said she wanted to see at end of show.

  • @juliusfishman7222
    @juliusfishman7222 2 роки тому +4

    My theory is that , they were mutated creatures made from the black and blood magic process that was used to make the valyrians and dragons. And balerion was probably attacked by one of those fire wyrms they grow very large just like dragons so some that were bigger than him attacked him. There are living things still in Valyria mutated men just like the ones on that sohorys island but even worse. And that is what destroyed Valyria, all Thier experiments broke out and destroyed them and the volcanoes probably erupted

  • @lolasoulfinger7359
    @lolasoulfinger7359 4 роки тому

    Gonna save this video until i finish F&B....(i am going to try!! I love your videos!!)

  • @Jockeylotforfun
    @Jockeylotforfun 4 роки тому +3

    I think its a cautionary tale of impetuous youth mixed with some descriptive horror expose....I don't think GRRM will ever tell us what exactly happened to her because the scariest things lie in the imaginations when it comes to the horror genre. A Prime example of this is the "Psycho" shower scene by the legendary Alfred Hitchcock. Imagine a creature strong and large enough to severely injure the black dread......made like a worm, but scalding hot...so horrible that preyed upon young maidens....keep imagining more details and you can begin to understand my point. It sounds a great deal like the fire wyrm from the ancient tale of Beowulf!

  • @lootleo4022
    @lootleo4022 3 роки тому +4

    The more I rewatch GOT the more nuances I notice such as the huge amount of loose ends left. I really hope we’ll see a sequel (perhaps after the prequel) that will address the loose ends. I believe Dany is alive ala blood magic and she will make a return. I also think there’s more dragon eggs to be found and I’d predict they’re in Summer Islands.

    • @LuminescentMonk
      @LuminescentMonk 2 роки тому

      We get both, HotD obviously currently but a sequel "Snow" in development

  • @mayasoley4847
    @mayasoley4847 4 роки тому +1

    I’m early into affc, there was an Arya chapter where people are talking about slugs that sound similar to the ones in the princess

  • @maheshunlimited
    @maheshunlimited 2 роки тому +3

    Just strange why the dragon didn't fly back. Seeing as one of the worms was as long as her arm, I'm thinking she was infected around the same time as when Belarion was first attacked, and the things were living inside her and growing. Then they were attacked again. and probably reinfected. Just wonder if Aaera wanted to come back and just could not control belarion? Although it seems like Belarion was protective of her.

    • @marijeangalloway1560
      @marijeangalloway1560 2 роки тому +2

      Balerion was obviously badly injured. I think he was forced to wait until his wounds-------particularly that 9-foot rent in his side that was still bleeding-----had healed enough for him to fly back. It was probably a painful flight for him, which shows that he was anxious to get back with her; I imagine, given the dragon-Targaryen bond, that he felt her agony as well, and risked the long flight while he was still injured to get her back where she could get help.

  • @ΠοπηΠαντελιδη
    @ΠοπηΠαντελιδη 2 роки тому +1

    I m reading the books now.. Hearing the descreption brings to my mind mellisandra... Blood eyes..the red woman.. The god of fire..her first reserection? Crazy but?????

  • @fannyalbi9040
    @fannyalbi9040 3 роки тому +1

    The lost princess that no one want to talk about, not even on tv show

  • @nikowoods5794
    @nikowoods5794 4 роки тому +16

    Maybe she encountered a population of Hutts adapted to life in a volcanic landscape.. Oh wait, wrong universe
    On a serious note, one Targaryen dragon supposedly hatched looking a lot like a fire wrym after the Dance so Fire Wryms might be originally dragons hatched from eggs that somehow survived the doom, but once hatched become deformed,mutated and later on become a species of their own

  • @vladriot510
    @vladriot510 4 роки тому +1

    I heard a theory about Fireworms. Could that be the case?

  • @AlsheikhAhmedElhady
    @AlsheikhAhmedElhady 4 роки тому +3

    YES, another one!!!

  • @TheTam0613
    @TheTam0613 4 роки тому

    Have a very happy holiday season 💖 I hope you and your GF have a lovely Christmas (since you referred to Christmas, I assume you celebrate it) and can enjoy some down time!! Thank you for all the content this year. It's been amazing! I cannot thank you enough. You've helped me get through some very challenging times. Much love 💛

    • @TalkingThrones
      @TalkingThrones  4 роки тому

      Thanks, Tam! Have a happy holidays yourself. 😊

  • @mrbabyhugh
    @mrbabyhugh 2 роки тому

    9:04 I figured it might have something to do with their dragon blood.

  • @tessadelafuente9318
    @tessadelafuente9318 Рік тому

    The question remains, as perhaps that is best. Because some horrors are not meant for mortal ears, lest reveling them drain all this is pure, and just, and good from the world.

  • @April_112
    @April_112 4 роки тому +3

    I want to know the reason right now );

  • @ghostt21
    @ghostt21 2 роки тому

    Could it be the reason the Night's King was coming south ? Or what the others/white walkers are scared of? The true song of ice and fire?

  • @chyawanprash
    @chyawanprash 3 роки тому +1

    I wonder if this story was included because something like this may happen in the main series.
    Mayhaps to Daenerys?

  • @perrykeel9888
    @perrykeel9888 4 роки тому

    You are the Goat

  • @GnobTV
    @GnobTV 4 роки тому +2

    imo one of the best written parts in the book... im always scared and disgusted when iam reading this page

  • @DevouredByADream
    @DevouredByADream 2 роки тому +1

    Where did they get ice?

    • @WrectumTerror
      @WrectumTerror 2 роки тому +2

      The true blood magic in this scenario

  • @ghosthowl38
    @ghosthowl38 4 роки тому +1

    Wouldnt it more likely be she went to sorthorys? All manner of strange things come from there. Just look what happened to the woman who went there before heading for Dorne

  • @venkateshpotter1685
    @venkateshpotter1685 4 роки тому +2

    Ask three eyed revan(Bran) to find out..

  • @BulletProofWolf
    @BulletProofWolf 4 роки тому

    Hey can you do a video of your theory on who the hooded man from the books is?

  • @Raven09s
    @Raven09s 4 роки тому +1

    Nobody really knows whats at the doom of valeria except the stone men. And who knows how much they know.

  • @nikopawlowic6557
    @nikopawlowic6557 2 роки тому +1

    I think Aerea probably got infected by some sort of parasite that had also infected Balerion via either an attack by an army in the disputed lands that laced their weapons with some sort of poisoin/parasitic tipped weapons or maybe eating an uncooked greyscale infested human in the ruins of old Valyria. (Always make sure your food is properly cooked kids).

  • @kevinOBryant1972
    @kevinOBryant1972 2 роки тому

    No and No and No that had meh howling 😂😂😂

  • @hrhmystique7158
    @hrhmystique7158 4 роки тому +2

    She wanted to become a dragon or a mother of dragon...In other words, her predicament could have been her making, albeit unintentional...

  • @DianaJG8
    @DianaJG8 4 роки тому

    Daaaaamn! 😱
    Thank goodness for the ice!!!
    🤔 Hmm...Ice

  • @mandipandi303
    @mandipandi303 3 роки тому +1

    I'm 10 minutes into this and I'm wondering, were the worm creatures in her from Valyria? Didn't huge fire worm things live in the Fourteen Flames?

  • @beawitched5252
    @beawitched5252 2 роки тому

    Makes me think of Homer’s Odyssey…Remember the giant and the sheep? Or something equally horrific as the Alien creature. 🤷🏻‍♀️