What an informative video! I can't tell you how much I learned from watching. I was laboring under the misconception that one had to use the plates! I think the look is so much nicer without it. Thanks Benford Guitars!
whoa, same here, they should mention the tuners already have 2 pins in the fender style measurement, i wonder why they sell the fender mounting plate then if it's not necessary... for using as a spacer maybe?
I like how you drilled the two pin mounting holes, that looks much cleaner than using their mounting plates. I would probably want to fill old holes and do the same for a retrofit. Under string tension, they will all tend to rotate to the limits of the holes you drilled, so they should be aligned and snug if you don't want the tuners to slip uneven. You could make yourself a drill jig with dowels that fit into the open peg holes, and all the mounting plates mounted to that via one of the screw mounting holes, drop it in and drill through the plates for the two pins to the correct depth.
Yes. Those plates are just for retrofitting on a existing guitar. Ive installed these on vintage Gibsons using the plates. No extra holes so the mod is totally reversible. My method is a little different now than in this video. I did make a jig similar to what you suggested. Its a dowel that goes down in to the tuning machine hole. It uses spare plates from the set.. I have one I use for my custom guitars as the spacing is the same. It doesnt work on anything else, so I made a single jig.
Thanks so much! I started to install these via the “directions” that came with the tuners (and quickly gave up) but now I think I’ll give it another shot using your technique.
benfordguitars Did today in under 15 minutes, no problem! Interesting tuners btw. It’s weird to be turning all tuners roughly the same amount. I like it.
What an informative video! I can't tell you how much I learned from watching. I was laboring under the misconception that one had to use the plates! I think the look is so much nicer without it. Thanks Benford Guitars!
whoa, same here, they should mention the tuners already have 2 pins in the fender style measurement, i wonder why they sell the fender mounting plate then if it's not necessary... for using as a spacer maybe?
Same!!
I like how you drilled the two pin mounting holes, that looks much cleaner than using their mounting plates. I would probably want to fill old holes and do the same for a retrofit. Under string tension, they will all tend to rotate to the limits of the holes you drilled, so they should be aligned and snug if you don't want the tuners to slip uneven. You could make yourself a drill jig with dowels that fit into the open peg holes, and all the mounting plates mounted to that via one of the screw mounting holes, drop it in and drill through the plates for the two pins to the correct depth.
Yes. Those plates are just for retrofitting on a existing guitar. Ive installed these on vintage Gibsons using the plates. No extra holes so the mod is totally reversible. My method is a little different now than in this video. I did make a jig similar to what you suggested. Its a dowel that goes down in to the tuning machine hole. It uses spare plates from the set.. I have one I use for my custom guitars as the spacing is the same. It doesnt work on anything else, so I made a single jig.
Excellent! It's about time someone gave some measurements. I'm ordering a Warmoth replacement neck and need to know the hole size. Well done sir.
Have these on my Benford custom. They are fantastic tuners on a fantastic guitar. Caddy Wampus was a famous billiards player in 1920's Chicago btw.
Thanks so much! I started to install these via the “directions” that came with the tuners (and quickly gave up) but now I think I’ll give it another shot using your technique.
Awesome! I've installed around 40-50 sets of these using this method. Let me know if you run into any issues. Happy to help.
benfordguitars Did today in under 15 minutes, no problem! Interesting tuners btw. It’s weird to be turning all tuners roughly the same amount. I like it.
Do you know are the in line locking tuners (6 or 7) staggered?
You can get the 6 in line normal or staggered. I dont believe the do 7 string sets.
is that also fit on reverse headstock
Yes, the install is exactly the same. You would need to buy left handed tuners otherwise the tuner will move in opposite direction when tuning.
@@benfordguitars alright thank you