Train Driver Rules GSMR Part 2 - Railway Emergency Call, Safety Broadcast, Deadman's Handel DSD
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- The GSMR Radio is basically a mobile phone in the cab of every train and locomotive permitted to operate on the UK Railway Network. This video looks at the railway emergency group call, general and safety broadcast messages and the drivers safety device, also known as the DSD or Deadman's Handel
I am a mainline freight train driver mentor, and a former passenger train driver with over 15 years experience of working on the railway. I have worked in various grades from station platforms, to yard shunting and train driving.
I try to make these train driver rules videos as accurate as possible but please be advised that rules and procedures do change from time to time. Always check your company operating instructions and the relevant RSSB Rule Book Modules for the latest information.
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This video was filmed 3 times due to lighting issues. There are a couple of occasions where the green screen isn't as clean as I would like. I am upgrading my lighting system to achieve better results in future videos.
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Thank you for the great information, I'm retired now but did drive freight trains in Australia.
6:35 Return of Shed Rail!!!!
13:08 oooh - Happy Passenger Company! A new player! Fun!
Also that driver animation was amazing
Thank you for this great clip. My instructor never told me about the safety broadcast not even in my classroom training. I only learnt about it in my SIM training. Luckily, it was not my final assessment.
I was unfortunate enough to have a fatality recently and the signaller receiving my REC was fantastic. Dealing with such a traumatic, surreal incident, I was numb making the REC so it was reassuring knowing there was a calm, detached person to lead me through the process. My passengers were unbelievably understanding and sympathetic.
As someone about to embark on a driving career, these videos are really useful and actually quite eye opening as to how useful the GSM-R system really is.
LOL reminded me of Holly from red dwarf, Emergency, Emergency, there's an emergency going on
I’m a Signaller and these videos help to give me a driver’s perspective of the GSMR system. Thank you!
Great video Richard. I've only had to make 1 REC so far, 5 months after passing out as qualified. A giant trampoline on the adjacent line, during howling Storm Eunice!
These are brilliant videos - a great insight! :)
Excellent video! Keep them coming!
Your best video yet.
Once again many thanks for an insight into the GSM-R procedures, much appreciated 👍
I found these videos really interesting. Thank you
Only discovered your channel yesterday while searching for TSW3 videos, but really enjoying these educational videos too. Keep them coming! Subbed!
Fantastic video Richard! I love this sort of content explaining how equipment works and how it is used. There a quite a few features of the GSM-R that I never knew about.
Looking forward to the next video. Keep up the great work
I’ve searched for rule related revision videos on UA-cam before. Granted a couple of RSSB videos, but nothing else. Great videos, and thanks! 😊
What a gem this channel is! Love your content so far!
Thanks Liam !
I wish this could have been how I learnt my rules, so much better than sitting in front of slide shows for weeks.....great work!
Explained well thanks. Loving these rules vlogs, more please. ❤😊
this is really good stuff. As a passenger it's interesting to know some of the behind the scenes stuff as (for me anyway) it's always good to have an understanding of how things operate. it just stops some of that anxiety when trains come to a stop and it's all quiet for a bit.
This was fascinating, please make more ☺️
Love these videos!
Excellent - very interesting - thank you.
just came across your channel and loving it. this series is great
Thank you so much :-)
Great explanation, and I really liked the graphics used. Simple but explained the scenario perfectly. And yes more rules / safety stuff would be great! I was once on a Crosscountry train where the signaller addressed the PA. In that case to call the guard to the cab. I guess that would have been a DSD activation. The train soon proceeded so it couldn't have been that bad.
Really good info, we didn’t cover this much on how to react to emergency call in our rules, maybe will happen a bit more once I get with my DI but it’s been very helpful. Thanks.
Ive just watched both parts if this - really informative and useful. Thank you so much for making this!
Glad it was helpful :-)
We make big usage of the PA function on our trains which use the same Siemens GSM-R radio down here in Melbourne. Mainly for the train controllers to relay information to passengers about delays, currently and future trackworks and so on.
The big flaw in it is it can be completely incomprehensible at times.
The GSM-R phone system has revolutionised railway communication with instant action available to stop all trains and possibly avert a mishap, a world away from the old NRN radio system.
From a railwayman of 37 years service, great video presentation.
The more knowledge we, non railway people, have, can only be good. With steam, the foot plate personnel were highly regarded. You are assisting the process
Very good videos as always I like animations as make it easy to understand keep it up
Thank you Jack
Yes I would like more rules videos
2005 we got GSMR here in Sweden but when I have seen multiple drivers using phones for communicating with rear drivers or with train personal
Great video :)
This is a good video
Brilliant video, interesting to get actual real life info from a friendly driver 😊 thank you for the insight!
Would really like to see the cab rides if possible!
Thank you so much. I’d love to make cab videos but it is difficult due to company policies ect
@@DadRail of course, I understand. In that case then some more videos on rules and in particular rules with regards to shunting trains into sidings or industries, what's required and what's allowed with regards to shunting onto the 'mainline' if at all possible? Thank you!😊
Obviously a Jago fan..,😊
You'd enjoy the long haul goods train route on the NIMTR. North Island Main Trunk Railway.... especially the high viaducts on the volcanic plateau 🇳🇿🇳🇿
Another amazing video 👍 don’t know if you allowed to say but how often do you overhear emergency calls if it daily, weekly maybe a few times a year? Just about to start myself as a guard in Yorkshire and really looking forward too it
Any plans on doing more rules videos?, really helpful and interesting 🙂
I just saw the title, deadman’s Handel? That is now annoying, but that’s the only flaw in the video, very nice
Wow.
I am a german train driver trainee.
The GSM-R in germany is kinda different. For example, we have no "ST" button ore no "DSD" (=Sifa in Germany) option. But the red button works basicly the same.
15:07 The message would be:
"This is a safety broadcast from the signaller at______. There are
reportable railhead conditions at Battle.
Only acknowledge if you have fully understood this message. To
acknowledge, press the ST button. End of safety broadcast."
Sounds like a "star trek red alert noise" to a signaller. Same as when the ECRO calls!!
thanks for another great video , interesting stuff especially the emergency button , we were waiting at a level crossing a couple of years back when a child decided to jump the crossing gate & run onto the line , a train was fortunately stopped in the platform of the adjacent station by the crossing , I’m guessing he would of pressed this emergency button in this incident? (This was at hampden park)
I'll be moving to just down the road from there...... I had a train come to a very sudden stop last week. A stupid moron of a kid was running with his hand on the train - driver must have had a minor heart attack thinking he was trapped.
Thanks for the informative video.
What happens if the signaller uses the GSM~R to put a call over the train's PA asking for help if the driver's incapacitated, how does the passenger assisting access the cab? Isn't the door locked?
Thanks.
Emergency, Emergency, Emergency. I have only been required to say these words once (excluding training) and i remember struggling to get the words out. I saw something go under the train :(. You would think it would easy to say but the words do not want to come out. I am from Australia so our radio and procedures are different.
Are there going to be any more rules videos as you said in your intro video there will be about 50 videos and I'm sure there's many more rules
Are you allowed a go pro in the cab with you so you can record your blogs such as your journeys
Does the GSM-R in the cab have batteries?
Yes the system is battery backed up so should still work in the event of a major incident
please make more rules video
Richard
Just for your info when the REC is initiated we can hear it in the NR/TOC control, although to be fair I've never heard anything from a 4,6 or 7 headcode so it may just be the MU's that send to the GSMR in the control rooms.
Paul
Hi Paul how are you? That’s interesting to know. Do control often use the GSMR to contact drivers directly? I’ve had it from NR control a few times but never from Company control.
@@DadRail Yeah not too bad mate, We tend to use it to issue not to call or special stop orders where there are no suitable station staff to do it for us
@@paulcurran2977 good to know thank you. I never know how to speak to control on the radio. Speak to them like you would a signaller at it seems to throw them off :-)
A very informative and high quality video
A question: If a REC were to be initiated, would guards in deactivated cabs still be able to receive these calls as I'm aware GSMRs don't need to be keyed in to send them?
Hey Will! @RichTheGuard here :) Assuming of course that the guard has turned on the GSM-R for whatever reason. I have asked this question around some drivers, and get conflicting replies... but in theory, it *should* do
How would a member of public get into the cab tho. Hard to answer without risking security
Where is the rules quiz? I have to be quizzed! :P Great video btw!
Unfortunately I couldn’t find a decent place to host it that didn’t cost the earth! There are a lot of form apps online but very few that will do the marking!
In the REC situation can the signaller make a group call to all trains in the cell or their control area after speaking privately for example and formally end the emergency call via that allowing all other trains to continue and not having to contact them 1 by 1
That would make sense. They could utilise the general call facility. At the moment this doesn’t happen but I don’t see any good reason why it couldn’t be made a rule.
Just wondering when you hear the alarm, are you supposed to put the train into emergency, full service or just a standard comfortable brake application?
Emergency straight away.
Braver man than me taking that picture lol. Made a few urgent calls in my 3 years as a guard. Also first time I was prepping a unit as a shunter I set off the DSD alarm and got the GSMR shouting at me. Woke me up at 3am I can tell you that, I jumped half way across the cab before I got my bearings and realised what was going on as I hadn't been shown it during training
So I may have misunderstood when he was talking about his own experience, when an emergency call is broadcasted do you slow down to a stop or do you whack your emergency brake?
Normally it’s an emergency brake application. However if I was approaching a station at low speed then I may choose to stop the train on the platform, where passengers can be de trained if needed. Each situation on its own merits, but the general rule of thumb is full emergency.
It's very interesting... my railway in Australia still uses open channel radio for trains to the control centre.. In an emergency say the train has struck someone, The driver will initiate the call with "Emergency, Emergency, emergency control this is driver of XXX I've just struck a person on the up suburban at XX over" all trains running of that control board will hear that call and are supposed to take caution and listen Incase they need to stop.
the issue with our system is that if there is already a radio call happening you won't be able to broadcast your emergency call until that radio call has ended.
There is no way to have a closed channel conversation so every train can here you conversation with control... it's also the same process if there is a spad, the controller will get a spad alarm on the board and will call "Emergency, emergency, emergency, driver xxx at xx stop your train, driver xxx at xx stop your train" and will keep doing until the driver or guard acknowledges that the train has stopped
If an emergency group call sounds in the cab, do all effected units need to slam on emergency breaks, or can they slow down at a reasonable speed, such as ifit was in a tunnel?
The rule book states to stop your train immediately, however I think a little common sense would be applied in the real world depending on the individual situation. For example if I was stopping at a terminal station or arriving slowly into a platform I would probably stop the train as normal to allow the passengers to disembark. However if I was on open line travelling at speed, it would be an emergency stop because there could be a tree or a person on the line around the next corner.
@@DadRailIn the event of on an open line, would you use the Full Service or Emergency position? I believe they're quite similar in power? Thanks
Fun fact. Did you know you won’t hear the DSD alarm at all if your already using GSMR to speak to the signaller! Don’t ask me how I know 🤦🏼♂️😉 (caveat to add, class 455 with no in-cab DSD alarm either).
How long after the brakes go off from a DSD alarm does that awful screeching happen?
I think it’s about 10 seconds but I’m not 💯
@@DadRail Thanks!
Nothing more annoying, as a signaller, than opening a call by stating you're the signaller and your signal box name, and the other person asking 'Is that the signaller?'. The rules only say you should establish you're speaking to the correct person, if the person says they're the signaller and you read it back then you've established it.
That’s very true and makes sense. It just the way we are taught as drivers. Emergency calls is parrot fashion straight from a script
What does the SIG button do+it doesn’t say anything about GMS-R in the rule book
There isn't a SIG button, do you mean SG?
Yes it is
The yellow button under the emergency button
@@Trains-wgfh That is the Urgent call button. It calls the controlling signaller with a special marker to show the signaller that it needs answering and dealing with NOW, but for whatever reason there is no need to stop other trains
Do you have a mobile version that links into the gsm r. If leaving the cab to inspect something.
There is indeed hand held mobile versions that can be registered on the network. They are not issued to drivers as standard, but can be used in the event of a cab unit failing.
Those as I understand it are normally issued to shunters. Although the only time I have seen one in the flesh it was being carried by a pilotman
Hey Richard so if you hear an emergency call should you perform an emergency stop?