We just started diplomacy and our top two allies, by power, told us they are doing a recovery kvk. Totally screwed us. We are in Alliance Invictus D Seed kvk. Everyone is deflated. 😮
@@Busdriver3092 they wanted to farm in zone 4. They delayed till the final registration and still "aren't ready". They actually threatened our officers when they complained. Never seen this happen in my 3.5 years of playing
@@otalgebra4436 he agrees now because he didn’t get what he wanted. He tried to force though fire,greenwood,wind. He didn’t get it so he had a hissy fit. Same old juvenile behaviour we’ve come to expect from him
Yeah, we got a bad matchmaking that put us in a camp with a kingdom that got opened during the offseason and got filled with deadweight. So we where easily the weakest camp. and we still got told that the two strongest camps where allying. So our leadership decided to put a chat on our discord asking everyone what they wanted to do, sit out and then go first pop and go all in or go all in even though we probably won't win.
@@Busdriver3092 well so far we haven’t come to a decision but I think at least 60-75% of the kd wants to fight it out as we max skipped after our last kvk and none likes the idea of waiting another 2 months for a fight.
@@Busdriver3092 yeah that is what I am wanting to do I can’t been in kvk since mid may so I am pretty juiced right now hoping to finally break the 30 mil kills mark
To be honest it sounds like you guys messed it up by pushing for the Fire, Wind, Green setup which does seem to be notably in your favour. There are obviously benefits to it, like the fact everyone gets a Z5 fight, and while its usually the best setup for invictus, its just unfortunate the way the camps have been allocated. ESPECIALLY because the invictus map needs the two strongest kingdoms at the top. That would have completely prevented this issue, as the only option then is either a 2 vs 4, OR they just couldnt ally. Having said this, it seems obvious that 2975 and 2748 were going to ally anyway, and them being deliberately difficult in diplo to emphasise on disputes between other camps (in this case fire and water) is completely malicious and not in the best interests of a good matchup. Because of this I dont think you can be blamed for how this turned out, and lets hope that things do in fact work out differently than everyone expects.
Alliance power # correction Fire - 21.1 power....not 20.1 Greenwood - 23.7 power...not 27 Otherwise another in depth explanation video 👍 also why is every kvk just Drama Drama Drama 😂😂😂
2975 and 2748 allied for a easy kvk so sad but damn 2268 this might be 5 losses in a row if u lose but heard alot going to 4409 lots of whales coming there im looking forward to that new kingdom
2975 will not speak much but they already decide bts. its a trend they have been doing. they will even make their allies betray. a lot of toxic people in there
How can you propose fire wind greenwood and then cry because the other kingdoms dont accept such a absurd proposal it would literally be the 1,2,4 in strenght as allies if 2268 and 1770 had not fcked up pushing for this idea and listened to waters proposal then we would have a good kvk now
@@rok5599 1770 and 2268 disagreed with waters proposal and wanted to continue discussing options. Woke up in the morning and see that water allies with the 2 Viet kingdoms. There was no discussion involved. Is that how diplo works?
@@Reý-x4i that's not true at all. Everyone was still making suggestions until water greenwood earth randomly left diplo and allied. Everyone was fine with water wind fire as allies
@@otalgebra4436 oh it’s to late, after arguing and being insulted that ship sailed lol. First time treating someone bad and expecting them to not change their mind?
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Feel like Fire,Wind and Water vs Earth, Daybreak and Greenwood would be such an good match
Yeah, not surprised people of same orgin to ally with each other... are you doing a video/live-stream on the new armament event?
Nah I think I'm skipping that. It looks meh. Also, I'm just hoarding stones and chests right now until they release the new pity system
Damn man name dropping me 😭
Cheering for you underdogs :p
Make it an upset like their last Invictus
Actually, Pho said he keeping those acc there now.
Walking breathing contradiction 🤣
@@BlackPanther3092 the walking BIG DAWGG
Let’s go man, i hope their Exuberance will be destroyed on the field 💪 and bring water with us
Pretty cool to learn how diplo works behind the scenes
This is not how diplo usually works. It's how diplo works with childish viet kingdoms and ego-maniacs like fo pulling the strings.
There’s a video of the entire chat. Go search it up and read it first yourselves. Everyone was out for themselves, as usual.
@@Rosanna-h8n perfect then you can go through it and see if it matches what I said happened
link?
We just started diplomacy and our top two allies, by power, told us they are doing a recovery kvk. Totally screwed us. We are in Alliance Invictus D Seed kvk. Everyone is deflated. 😮
@@davidw.5185 why queue then. Freakin ridiculous
@@Busdriver3092 they wanted to farm in zone 4. They delayed till the final registration and still "aren't ready". They actually threatened our officers when they complained. Never seen this happen in my 3.5 years of playing
@@davidw.5185threatened them with what, they’re not even coming out of the pass 😂
@@Busdriver3092yep, that's what Nile is for 😂😂😂.
To salvage this kvk, you need to swap water and daybreak. This wont be a fun kvk otherwise. Top zone and bottom zone 7s will both be lost in this map
It was the fairest match up. Maybe if BP wasn’t up his own ass so much we would have got it
@@dbxriski1292 what does that mean? I am pretty sure all Kds would agree to that matchup including bp.
@dbxriski1292 fairest match up 🤣 youre delusional. The whole community sees these allies as unfair and 1824 going along with it
@@otalgebra4436 he agrees now because he didn’t get what he wanted. He tried to force though fire,greenwood,wind. He didn’t get it so he had a hissy fit. Same old juvenile behaviour we’ve come to expect from him
@@jonathansparks882 are you a simpleton? Maybe re read what I said. The original post is even asking for it 😂 fire, wind, water. Can’t be that unfair
2975 diplo one of the scummiest out there, haven't learnt their lesson from last kvk
Is there anyway to get Water to ally with you guys so it’s 4v2? This is unfair
Maybe? That would be awesome if it happened because those two kds played diplo from my perspective.
@@Busdriver3092 yep. If it were me i will try to get everyone ganged up on these 2. Maybe promise star to water if you guys win or something
Yeah, we got a bad matchmaking that put us in a camp with a kingdom that got opened during the offseason and got filled with deadweight. So we where easily the weakest camp. and we still got told that the two strongest camps where allying. So our leadership decided to put a chat on our discord asking everyone what they wanted to do, sit out and then go first pop and go all in or go all in even though we probably won't win.
@@Rambollo13 and?
@@Busdriver3092 well so far we haven’t come to a decision but I think at least 60-75% of the kd wants to fight it out as we max skipped after our last kvk and none likes the idea of waiting another 2 months for a fight.
@@Rambollo13 you only get 3-4 kvks a year. Rally everyone and fight all out
@@Busdriver3092 yeah that is what I am wanting to do I can’t been in kvk since mid may so I am pretty juiced right now hoping to finally break the 30 mil kills mark
@@Rambollo13 good luck. I’ve only played in kvk so far this year…. And it’s August now
To be honest it sounds like you guys messed it up by pushing for the Fire, Wind, Green setup which does seem to be notably in your favour. There are obviously benefits to it, like the fact everyone gets a Z5 fight, and while its usually the best setup for invictus, its just unfortunate the way the camps have been allocated. ESPECIALLY because the invictus map needs the two strongest kingdoms at the top. That would have completely prevented this issue, as the only option then is either a 2 vs 4, OR they just couldnt ally.
Having said this, it seems obvious that 2975 and 2748 were going to ally anyway, and them being deliberately difficult in diplo to emphasise on disputes between other camps (in this case fire and water) is completely malicious and not in the best interests of a good matchup. Because of this I dont think you can be blamed for how this turned out, and lets hope that things do in fact work out differently than everyone expects.
i can just karma of preallying of 2268/1166 with 1875 when fighting 2429 and Water.
Their last kvk It wasn’t a 1vs12 bro they choose 2 strongest camp.. 2nd camp being arvix kd decided to fight other kds 😂
1824 always like an easy win haha
Alliance power # correction
Fire - 21.1 power....not 20.1
Greenwood - 23.7 power...not 27
Otherwise another in depth explanation video 👍 also why is every kvk just Drama Drama Drama 😂😂😂
@@toddcollins7355 that was literally taken from an acct in each kd at the time of the diplo
So 2268 will be going to younger kd?
@@xz4409 yes
@@Busdriver3092 whats the goal to build another kd from scratch or join already build kd?
@@xz4409 to be revealed soon 🙌.
They just buy a young KD
gotta change daybreak and water
So you dont like the fire wáter wind which IS the fairest just because 2268 would have even fight al the kvk? Damm
2975 and 2748 allied for a easy kvk so sad but damn 2268 this might be 5 losses in a row if u lose but heard alot going to 4409 lots of whales coming there im looking forward to that new kingdom
@@joealbanese3422 4409? What’s that haha
Welcome with 1786😊
2975 will not speak much but they already decide bts. its a trend they have been doing. they will even make their allies betray. a lot of toxic people in there
Deadly kd
How can you propose fire wind greenwood and then cry because the other kingdoms dont accept such a absurd proposal it would literally be the 1,2,4 in strenght as allies if 2268 and 1770 had not fcked up pushing for this idea and listened to waters proposal then we would have a good kvk now
@@rok5599 water going along with the bullshit instead of fighting the two strongest kds who preallied lawl
@@rok5599 1770 and 2268 disagreed with waters proposal and wanted to continue discussing options. Woke up in the morning and see that water allies with the 2 Viet kingdoms. There was no discussion involved. Is that how diplo works?
@@otalgebra4436 @jonathansparks882 maybe shouldnt have started insulting water then
First?
Damn, that diplo video is revealing. You guys only wanted an easy kvk 😂 1824 trying to ally and your rejecting because the bottom is fair and equal.
@@Reý-x4i 1824 wants to get carried for a 5th kvk in a row
@@Reý-x4i that's not true at all. Everyone was still making suggestions until water greenwood earth randomly left diplo and allied. Everyone was fine with water wind fire as allies
@@otalgebra4436 except 2268 and 1770 🤣
@@Reý-x4i nope. We contacted water and they declined it. It's not too late for it now either
@@otalgebra4436 oh it’s to late, after arguing and being insulted that ship sailed lol. First time treating someone bad and expecting them to not change their mind?
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