WOODWORKER BENCH VISE INSTALLATION AND REVIEW: WILTON 4x10 PIVOT JAW 79A
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- This video demonstrates how to install a woodworkers bench vise. The Wilton Pivot-Jaw Woodworker Vise is made for the professional craftsman or woodworker. It has many great features such as a rapid release design, pivot jaw, vertical moving jaw dog, magnetic maple jaw liners, and a 13" maximum opening. Please watch the entire video to see what I like and one small improvement I suggest for it.
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I made it by myself. I used woodprix woodworking plans for that.
Cool
My Dad was a wood worker for the last 40 years he lived and his shop was in the same shape as yours. Everything was marked by outline where it hung and everything was lined up perfect by size and label forward. He passed over 20 years ago and back then no one new what OCD was but one could walk into his shop and move one small tool and he could spot it in seconds when he walked in. He made some beautiful pieces over the years for his grandchildren but his special was the work he did on his lathe. he said the most beautiful piece on a lathe was made from the ugliest piece of wood on the pile.
Thanks, that's a great story to hear! I've made some spinning tops on a lathe, which are fun items to give away. It took me a long time to get around to making the work corner, but I'm so glad I did. I always know where to find a tool or where to put a tool if it's missing.
@@MarkThomasBuilder I just retired in Aug and I'm redoing my shop as we talk. Just ordered a JET drill press and will probably stay with JET as they are great quality. They are a bit pricey but far from the most expensive out there. I figure that I have worked all my life so I might as well get what I want and what works for me. I did inherit his lathe and most of his tools. Last month I found a Stanley Bailey 3 block plane that was made somewhere around 1909 or so but it needs to be restored cause some moisture got to it. Still looking for someone that I can pay to make it new again.
I'm considering going with a JET Bandsaw someday. I agree, they make nice stuff. Good luck with the new drill press!
If you are right handed you should have put it on the left side of the bench. So you can hold the board you are cutting in your left hand. And it doesnt just drop to the floor and you can brace the piece.
Ahh, makes sense. Thanks for the advice!
The completely unnecessary music track is a very distracting.
Ok, thanks for your feedback.
If you're right handed, you should mount the vice on the left side, brother...personal choice, but 99 times out of 100, it'll work best for ya.
That makes sense. You live and learn, lol!
IMHO, Wilton has taken a huge step down in quality and workmanship of their vises by farming out the manufacturing to Asia. Granted, the older Columbians, Craftsmans (some of which were made in Japan) weigh almost as much as the one you reviewed and can be had used at estate sales or Facebook MarketPlace for $50 or less. Granted they don't have the pivot feature, but most do have the quick release, but you didn't feel the need to demo the pivot feature in your video. $243 for a Taiwan vise is way more than I'd pay, but I did like your video. What attracted me to your video was the fact that I had purchased a no name vise with the gray hammer paint on it that looks exactly like the one you reviewed, complete with the cast in recess for the logo badge. It was half price on the Saturday leftovers sale and I got it for $10 and it is pretty much in new condition. I thought it was from Harbor Freight by the looks of it.
Wilton used to do a logo recess in their castings with their US made "Mechanics' Vises" as they made the vises Snap On sells which cost a couple hundred more than the Wilton brand. Just swap out the aluminum plate from Wilton to Snap On and watch your vise grow in value....lol. You are correct with regards to them making some of their machinist "bullet" vises " still here in the US, but some of their products are made in Europe now too. I have about a dozen or so Wiltons in my collection, but my woodworker's vise is an old Columbian which was a LOT easier to mount than this Wilton. I wouldn't consider myself a woodworker, but the deep jaw feature is sure handy when you need to hold sizable items. Thanks again for the informative video.
Thank you! I agree that it would be nice if they still made them in the USA. I also felt like the aluminum plate was a weak effort to show off the Wilton name. Other than those issues, I use this bench vise all the time and I'm glad to have it. It does a great job for securely holding my items in place. I also use a Rockler bench vise at work and I still like this one better.
Not really a woodworking vise. Without bench dogs it's kind of worthless. There are much better options.
QUESTION OF THE DAY: What type of work do you use a vise for the most? Glue ups, drilling, sanding?
I would think it might be cheaper for Wilton to get someone else to actually manufacture the vice and they probably supply to different companies hense the stuck on label,easy to change the name to who is selling the vice
It's interesting that some of their vises have the stamped name and some have labels. I suggest they do all stamped names.
Love your shop mark I have a small woodworking shop too. It was awesome meeting you at the novi Michigan meet up. Give me a shout out.
Thanks, great meeting you too! No problem on a shout out.
@@MarkThomasBuilder thanks mark that means so much to me. Let me know when you do. Be blessed
Enjoyed the video - but - you did not mention what the silver pin is used for and how that all works...just sayin.
Ahh, good point, sorry about that. The pin on the side pulls out so you can remove the pivot jaw, for wider applications. The entire pivot jaw raises up 9/16 of an inch for a full lentgh dog, or the silver part on top raises up for a bench dog. It's quite versatile and easy to switch around.
I made it with Woodglut plans!
Thank you for posting this. Someone gave me one of these recently and I was wondering how best to install it to the new bench I am building.
David Allison you’re welcome. I’ve also heard people say they’ve turned their workbench upside down to install it. The spreader clamp worked well for me.
Doubt that is 40lbs!
Nice! Where can you get those vise liners magnetic?
I believe you can get some from the Wilton website, or else they have a link to their suppliers.
One thing I noticed, I find that ergonomically speaking your vice placement is best suited to left handed people, I would have put it on the left hand side face of the bench to better suit right handed work.
That's a great observation. If I every build a new workbench, I'll consider doing that. Thanks!
You are right handed. Just face your bench from the front.
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Great vise. You might need to add a leg under the vise.
That's a good idea. I'll keep an eye on it if I start putting heavier items in there.
How much is that shop vice. Thanx
I believe it's just over $200.
Would this work on a 1 3/4 inch thick shop top bench (MDF core with high density particle board on either side )? Thank you.
I would think so, but I don't use MDF much to know how well some short lag screws will hold over time. I'd like to know what others think.
Thanks, this was very helpful
You're welcome!
Classic beginner’s mistake. When I first got into woodworking as a hobby, I was absolutely convinced that the vice should go near the right corner, because I imagined myself standing in front of the vice making a crosscut. But that’s only one task of many, and you actually spend very little time sawing: most of the time is spent using a square, a pencil, marking knife, handplanes, chisels etc. That’s why most woodworking benches have the vice near the left corner: you switch between tools - where do you put them? If you’re right-handed, you want to put them down on the bench, to your right. Otherwise you’re reaching across your work to the left all the time - very uncomfortable. Maddening, actually.
Also, what the other guy said in the comments, about holding the offcut with your left hand. But I’m guessing you’ll have figured this out by now, since the video is a bit older.
Many people don’t mount their vice on the extreme corner, but inside the leg. A little more stable, and you also want a little bit of space to your left, to put the chisel down. I quite like the vice fairly close to the corner though, it has a few advantages. Many woodworkers have a second vice at the end of the bench for sawing close to the jaws and a few other purposes.
The vice looks good. I bought one recently (hasn’t even arrived yet), and Wilton is one of those names I would have looked at if it wasn’t for the fact that I’m in Europe. I specifically wanted a used vice, and having a 20 pound chunk of metal shipped over the Atlantic seemed a bit extravagant - not to mention the cost, of course.
The magnetic cheeks would drive me nuts, I would keep them safe somewhere and screw in my own. Same with the pivoting jaw: I love the fact that you can remove it - I don’t think I’d need it much, but if you work on tapered table legs or something like that, it would be amazing to have.
I agree about the logo: if the thing has a lifetime warranty, they could cast their logo into it. Maybe just the letter W or some other small version, because I’m guessing there‘s not enough space: at that size, their logo might be too intricate for cast metal - look at the distance between the I and the L, and the stylised O. There’s a lot more space on the vice you’re comparing it to. And of course it’s cheaper to just slap a sticker on. But I doubt they’re buying these vices from a third party, like someone else has suggested in the comments. The logo is a weird one, anyway: I like it, but it seems more suited to a company that builds electronics. Probably because it reminds me of Sanyo, with the stripes in the N, and Minolta.
I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. I may make a new workbench eventually and move the location of the vice. I took the pivoting jaws out. I found that I don't need them for my projects. I like you idea of switching out the magnetic cheeks.
Looks like a nice vice. However, I have 2 questions...Can the handle be remove to install a longer one and is there a way to install larger wood softeners?
The handle isn't removable, that I know of. You can add your own wood jaw liners in there.
Thanks for the video. I have been looking for one for a while and after watching your video, decided to go with this one. I caught it on sale on Amazon for $194.00 so I had to pick it up. I installed it today and like you, had to make some under bench mods to support the vise. But it was fairly straight forward. But the OCD in me came out when after I installed it, I noticed the movable jaw is tilted just a tad clockwise from the mounted jaw. I tried a few things to get it to line up, but it seems like it's just part of the design. That's when I came back and watched your video again to see if yours has it to, and it does. You can tell you noticed it at 6:31 in the video. I guess I will have to live with it.
I've noticed that too, but haven't tried to fix it. I find myself using this vise all the time and it works amazingly well.
I’m guessing it has something to do with the quick release feature. These mechanisms are clever, but they can make the whole thing feel a little weeble-wobbly.
Really well presented video and a really nice vice, I looked up this vice on Amazon and it retails for $620+ . I think your bench is a budget build and probably weighs the same as the vice. I was wondering if you intend updating your bench.
Thank you! I built this bench mainly for a work surface and didn't think about adding a vise. I eventually want to build a new heavy -duty one and move this vise to it.
@@MarkThomasBuilder thanks for the reply. Will you be presenting that build.
Do you know if these are Chinese vises?
This particular one is now made in Taiwan, since 2018. The company makes some of their machinist vises in the USA still.