Combine fire. Half million dollar machine catches fire
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Combine fire where the header is disconnected to save the john deere from burning up. Everyone in this video has firefighting experience, do not attempt.
Walla Walla WA
Waitsburg WA
Prescott WA
Dayton WA
Washington State
United States of America
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Heres a comment from my boss.
-"This fire was on my farm. So maybe I can help with some of what’s going on here. First, the fire extinguishers everybody seems to think we should be using are empty, we used them all just getting the combine into the fallow. There was a tractor and disc active on the fire, it burned very little farm ground. People have a hard time rationalizing what’s going on who have never been in a situation like this, but from the time the header caught fire to the point we unhooked it was less than 3 minutes. There wasn’t time for anything other than to save what we could, keep the crew safe and get out of the way. A lot of experience and fast thinking saved millions of dollars of harvest equipment this day. Save your opinions, I promise you don’t know what you're talking about."
Great Job 👍 Most of us me anyway completely understands what you went thru 🔥 🚜
So what happened? What was the cause? The draper doesn’t just light up.
@@HippieLettuce143 Bearing failed
@@TrevorStruthers sorry to hear that. I was wondering if it was the vulcanized rubber roller that spins the Draper. Thank you for replying again sorry to see that.
@@TrevorStruthers It wasn’t smoking before it burst into Flames? No Squealing from the Bearing?
Props to the operator for pointing away from the wind. That single-handedly saved the combine.
Some guys in our area (North Central Montana) have started hanging a 200-400 gallon water tank under the right front corner of their grain cart, with a hose reel and a hydraulic powered water pump. It's always in the field, always has an operator, and is one of the fastest things in the field. Everyone has water trucks, but they are usually unmanned and sitting at the end of the field, so take longer to get to the fire.
Thats a really good idea.
@Dequavis Jones In my country Moldova you cant work with combine if you dont have a water tank in around on the field ans asame its in Romania
Because its safety first !
Ppp000 lol lol ok ok 0
We had a problem with Fire in Australia, Queensland and NSW during the Harvest and it was imperative to make sure that the header and the combine were kept clean and clear at all times. The idea of a water tank attatched to the Combine is a great one, one that we should consider.
I'm glad you guys are all OK. Thank you for showing us city people a side of farming that is rarely seem. Your reflexes are fantastic. I don't think I would have had the presence of mind to grab a camera and start recording once that header started burning!
So glad all are ok, great job saving the combine. Maybe worth purchasing a set of welding gloves for each of the combines in this situation trying to take off a burning head.
Well played. I've been through only a couple of those and watching your video brought back the sheer terror of the event even after 40 years!. So glad it turned out as well as it did.
FROM AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺 ♥️ SO pleased you guys were able to get the header away from the reel. Hydraulic oil 🛢 is dangerous. It looks bad now but you will be able to repair the front, they are too expensive to replace. I had an old header burnt and we were able to get it going again. So pleased none of you guys got hurt. I hope you all recover well. CHEERS
We shall see. Theres usable pieces on it still, but that steel got a bit hot youd think? Helluva project to repair one to that extent. They arent the best to begin with
As a mechanic who works on these nearly every day I wouldn’t even think about fixing that, take one look and it’s an instant right off. The time, money and availability of some of the parts just isn’t viable. And I guarantee you after that amount of heat the front will never be the same again, Things will have warped and all sorts.
Sucks to see the head burn up like that. Glad you were able to get the power unit outta the way.
Best of luck on the recovery end of things.
Take care.
Damn excellent save! With the way the wind blows out there and how dry it is. That was close. I'm in Idaho bout 3 hours south east of y'all.
Good job boys saved that high dollar combine, compared to that head, y’all get the win 👊 kept cool and got er unhooked 👌 that’s crazy I’ve never seen the head catch fire before, I’ve seen a few combines burn but never the head!!
Ty!
Yesterday, I watched a video from the Farm Progress Show in Iowa. Unverferth has an 250 gallon water tank, with hose, available for some of their grain carts. Here is the ideal situation for that.
I would never spray water at grain chaff , you will spread the fire .
You do realize that it’s possible to put water on a fire, without using enough pressure to blow shit everywhere.
@@davebullock3517 ...All I know is what I saw when we hit our combine with water and then what happened when the fire department got there . The fire went from the front of the combine to the rear in a matter of seconds when water was used .
It seemed the more water they used the bigger the fire got , then eventually the fire went out .
We now only carry chemical extinguishers in the combine .
@@toledojeeper2932, as a firefighter, I’ll agree, that if they hit it with about 100psi or more, it would definitely spread burning material. You need to use a higher volume of water to allow the material to get wet on initial attack.
@@toledojeeper2932 could it be that a hydraulic hose was ruptured and the water spread the already burning oil? That being said, chemical extinguishers would prevent that situation entirely but a water truck will still put out the resulting field fire if some discretion is used.
After having two of them happen to us this is why you always keep your spray truck with water in the field because nowadays this stuff goes up like a Roman candle with all the plastic rubber and wiring in them and your out of town fire departments might not get there for a half hour be safe and hope you have a good rest of your harvest.
Another post here suggested mounting a 200 or 400 gallon water tank, pump and hose reel right on the combine itself. When you need it, it's already there where it needs to be. Gotta keep it charged though.
I know it's a difficult time. Here we unload the cereal from the hopper of the combine on the fire covering it completely. That suffocates the flames. Greetings from Argentina.
You dump grain on the fire? That is effective? I would never have thought of that.
@@TrevorStruthers To little would cause a larger fire. To much fuel would smother it.
I don't know these people and was very relieved to see the combine saved
4:02, that'll buff right out, lol, good job saving the machine!
This is awsome teamwork under high-stress and countless dangers present . Great job! I consider this a trainning video every field boss should show the crew!
Sorry for the loss. But great job the guys saving the combine.
Good save, getting the combine unhooked. Glad no one got hurt
Great job saving the 780. That took some quick thinking unders crazy stress. And to those saying that he should put down the camera, first you don't know what happened before the camera was turned on and the head was a total loss before then. Second, if he had put the camera down what would you suggest he do?
Yay. Thank you for that. We had attempted to save the header and the field multiple times. I even cut the part of the video where i threw the phone down and tried to do more. It was a loss as far as we thought when I started recording. Putting out a rubber fire with a couple extinguishers is futile it seems.
@@TrevorStruthers You could see by the time the camera was turned on that the header was already a total loss and the field was way beyond where you guys were going to be able to control it. I think the anonymity of the internet plus a keyboard just makes to many people stupid and mean.
We had this happen to us this year. An older Macdon D60S Draper. Not sure what caused it. Your header burned far slower. Ours was gone in probably 2 minutes. The hydraulic reservoir on ours exploded. Blew out the vent, the fill cap and the sight glasses. We only unhooked the one point hookup and backed the 9240 out from the header. It was fucking wild and this just brought me right back to that day.
Damn! Yeah I was waiting for ours to go the entire time. It finally did a minute or two after we got off it. It only jetted out the fill cap though
If you do have water extinguishers, put dish soap in them. It helps foam up and put out much more than the water alone. Regardless, a fire like this is very difficult to contain, and can move quickly with high temperatures and wind. Fast thinking all around resulted in a lot of money saved. Damn good thing a tractor and disc was handy to put out the field (Per the comments below), people have used plows to save buildings and farmsteads many times in the past.
No way? I'll have to inform the powers that be then! Thanks!
Sad to see a farmer lose a piece of equipment if not for a farmer we don't eat
Pays to have your own fire fighting equipment even if it’s 2nd hand save a fortune in time and money. It only needs a stone to cause a spark, have your fire fighting gear near by.
It amazes me that fire suppression systems ain't a common/standard thing on combines and larger tractors. Sure it would add cost but would it save shit tons of machines yes.
It wouldn’t matter, combines burn extremely fast, and no amount of water of retardant could stop it
You have them on the combine but not on the header
With the way the wind blows in open country like that, it strikes me that with an open machine like a header, you're probably not going to be able to choke it out. Perhaps it's possible with a high volume of foaming/expanding liquid of some kind. The combine itself with all of it's covers is an easier proposition for sure.
That socks. Glad you save the combine and no one got hurt.
It's sad to lose an equipment how much more one that you use to put food on the table. Credit for saving the harvester. Farming is life
Great job gents
Still working as of today! Thank you!
This same thing happened to us a few years ago. Luckily we were next to Some fallow also.
Only liked the video because the combine was saved and no one was hurt.
Dude that was close 😅. Glad everyone and combine is A-ok 👌
It almost seems that I am explaining to them that it is on fire. I am not. I am explaining to the viewers. I am fine no one was hurt.
Oh no, did the friction from the feeder belt on the left side ignite the dry material going in? It does not take much. Can you guys get a lease header to finish your harvest? Prayers that you guys can, got to get the crop in.
@@zacharbert6604 It's hard to say what failed. Something in the center of the header, most likely a bearing went bad and the friction from that was hot enough to start the chaff on fire. Yes. we had 3 combines running at the end today. The one with no header had to sit out. Thank you!@
Much thanks to the American Farmer for providing for America. But it does suck watching that burn. But it’s what insurance is for
@@SouthernCrates Absolutely. Things can be replaced. People cant. My dads speech and so did my current employers include that at the beginning of each season..
@@TrevorStruthers Trevor I don’t know for sure, you may have had al lot of material built up under the Draper . I have ran these headers since the early 90s and the conditions have to be just right to build static and if I was going to guess that is what I would say, if it was a bearing, the Draper would go and stop. Not ruling it out that it could be. Static is one of those things that might be a problem one day out of the year.
Need to stop and clean out the headers, check bearings, grease shafts instead of going full bore all the time.. an hour of preventative maintenance is worth more than the cost of a new combine. Need to slow down during harvesting, been there done that.
sad part is you probably stuck trying to replace that header with whatever is out there used because new is multiple years out
Excelentní práce chlapi, zachránili jste mlátičku od plamenů a popela, lištu vem čert....
Even after all these years they still catch on fire and burn like no other piece of farm equipment and so easily.
All the dust
On five separate occasions we had smoldering and caught it but each time it was static that caused the problem. We always dragged two chains and thought we were grounded to drain off the buildup from internal friction. Eventually we realized the chain was giving us a false sense of security and was doing nothing because of inconsistent continuity we found out testing with an ohm meter. Put a staticable system on and haven't had a static event in 10 years. Simple but effective . Most everyone in our area is using them and combine fires and electronic problems have all but disappeared from static.
Conveyor belt headers the damned dummest things manufacturers ever came up with. Had enough hassles with belts thirty years in the seed industry not to mention all the dirt and garbage out in the field.
Good job saving the combine.
Would those big fields sprayers be hard to adapted to use as standbys for fires...you'd have over a 1000 gallon water supply
But miles away when you need it. the better option appears to be to mount a tank, pump and reel right on the combine. They're big enough for it, then you have the water right there when you need it.
:( OUCH, THANK THE LORD EVERYONE IS SAFE. Farming is said to be the most dangerous job, this is proof.
Should install 500 litter water tank with htp pump it will work better in emergency situation . A little water = big job
That's crazy. And I imagine just that header alone probably costs more than a brand new sedan.
100-125k usd
Always painful to watch, expecting it to be faster getting the header off.. yet in reality, you all busted ass pretty quick 👍
Yeah. This was all after a lot of tense moments near standing wheat up the hill.
How lucky to have managed to get the harvester platform off..
Was I the only one screaming at the screen for them to stop high fiveing and move on to the field fire? In Saskatchewan it’s pretty rare to not have a water tank and disc or pro till in the same field so you don’t burn the country down.
Not just you... Me too, wtheck.
The fire was nearly out in 15 minutes. There was nowhere for it to go. It was out before the disc got there. Calm down keyboard warriors
Also out before the fire department arrived
Glad you saved the combine
Glad nobody was hurt
Sending praying for you and the 🧯🧯🧯🧯🧯🔥🚒🔥🚒🌧️💧☔🙏💌🤳
Kinda wish they had something where if you're header is on fire you can automatically drop and disconnect on the go
And a tank, pump and reel on the combine to then fight it once disconnected?
What don't they teach anywhere? Yes, at least it's a harvester preserved....
Чтобы не возникали такие проблемы на поле должен дежурить трактор с бочкой воды и шлангом и все можно было быстро потушить .✌️✌️✌️🇷🇺 Всем удачи и хорошего урожая !!!
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Seeing more and more combines with a couple hundred gallons of water on board with a hose reel and a pump. I've also seen people rig up combines with race car style dry chemical fire suppression systems.
I worked on a dairy farm in Wisconsin Hardest job I ever had
WheelingDairy on youtube would agree with you. That work never ends
Also a simple air hose dust off once a day will keep things like this from happening usually but there are a lot of variables bearings and gearboxes that go out hydraulic hoses bust a lot of different things can cause a fire but I worked in the combine Salvage for a couple years and have worked on Farm Equipment my entire life nine times out of 10 it's a lack of maintenance. I'm sure lack of maintenance was probably not the cause of this fire. The gearbox that runs the sickle bar is a terrible design in all Draper heads case MacDon deere. But who really knows sorry about your luck fellas but for the most part you guys took care of business and didn't lose the combine too. It use to break my heart to see a burnt s780 or a case 9250 come in on a truck burnt. I know the lose at hand and a lot of small time farmers would be out of business if this were to happen to them. I wish everyone had to work a season on a farm once in their life ......💯
As often as I see videos of combine fires, I wonder why they don't have a fire suppression system on them like we have in race cars? They can certainly put big enough fire bottles on a combine to snuff out fires before they get big enough to do a lot of damage.
Smart thinking. We are seriously looking at getting a tender for the bankouts. 250 gallons may be enough to put something out. Our fire extinguishers are rarely enough if theres flames.
@@TrevorStruthers if you do get a system it will have to be something with that fire suppression foam. That is the only stuff I have ever seen that immediately smashes a tire fire or burning oil.
@@TrevorStruthers Extinguishers are always too small it seems. Whenever I see a small kitchen sized one on a machine I laugh. People don't realize how fast they go empty.
Thank God u got the header disconnected
Cook tractor parts has a combine salvage yard in clinton Missouri they will prolly buy what's left they are good people and will prolly pay better then anyone.
Good save. Glad no one was hurt
Horrible sight, but so glad no one got hurt and the combine was saved
That header must have a lot of plastic parts and canvas. Plastic is wonderful. Good advertising for MacDon.
Doesn’t matter what brand front it is, they all burn the same.
@@kmac7504 mine wont burn. It don't have canvas or tires. Metal doesn't burn.
@@scottrayhons2537 sure but take a look at 90% of new fronts. All the same unless it's an auger front
@@kmac7504 I don't want any new junk cause its all just junk
@@scottrayhons2537 but it will out harvest your old front I guarantee
It can be rebuilt. Metal don't burn.
Hey be glad it was just the combine head and not the whole combine. Thank God everyone is safe though. However it might be a good idea to do some fire Extinguisher drills and inspect your Extinguisher every year to make sure they're in good working order. Just a thought.
I had a piece of equipment that caught fire and it was a bad bearing in the grease and the bearing got hot enough that started the fire and then with the the dust from the the crops help spread the fire made it bigger and it took off from there
This is what we believe happened to us as well
The worst thing about hillco combines are the manual header pins
Good thing you were able to film that and post it on UA-cam. Hope you got all the views you wanted. Such a good help. Anybody who acts like that on our farm wouldn't be working with us anymore.
Heres a comment from my boss.
Jesse McCaw
This fire was on my farm. So maybe I can help with some of what’s going on here. First, the fire extinguishers everybody seems to think we should be using are empty, we used them all just getting the combine into the fallow. There was a tractor and disc active on the fire, it burned very little farm ground. People have a hard time rationalizing what’s going on who have never been in a situation like this, but from the time the header caught fire to the point we unhooked it was less than 3 minutes. There wasn’t time for anything other than to save what we could, keep the crew safe and get out of the way. A lot of experience and fast thinking saved millions of dollars of harvest equipment this day. Save your opinions, I promise you don’t know what your talking about.
I wouldn't work for someone who decides based on an editted video, who to fire.
Awesome 😎
Guy's, who ever told you too use those Dry Power fire extinguishers on a Class A fire is Crazy as Hell. Those extinguishers is used for Class B Fires Fires in flammable liquids, combustible liquids, petroleum greases, tars, oils, oil-based paints, solvents, lacquers, alcohols, and flammable gases. You need a Class A fire extinguisher... Fires in ordinary combustible materials, such as wood, cloth, paper, rubber, and many plastics. Those Dry Powder Extinguishers just smother the fire The other one will cool down the fire and put it out.
Never spray water at grain chaff , it will go up in flames and spread the fire .
Thing is, when fighting combine fires, you're potentially dealing with both oil/fuel and dust fires. This one was the exception, mostly dust, usually combine fires are around the engine area with fuel involved.
Not to mention the amount of plastics used to keep things lighter now days. They seem to burn even hotter
The powder draws to the heat source. Look it up
We had a instructor tell us that you spray in the general area and it will find the source
So basically what you're saying is you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about when it comes to combines! You realize these big machines have huge hydraulic tank fuel tanks oil sumps all over the goddamn place and grease on damn near everything not to mention DEF!
get ahold of AKE safety euipment about their exstinguishers. you will be glad you have them. you mite have had a salvagable head if you would have had em. at least check em out
I will pass it along
ty
Kind of surprising none of these Farmers have water trucks I see this a lot
good job
Молодцы, спасли комбайн.
We got a fire…here let me take the time to video it and fumble around with a fire extinguisher with one hand. 😅
Yes
Guess he does not know how to use the fire extinguisher..
My bet is roller bearing started that fire its a common fault with mac don fronts catching fire i replace those bearings every year
Yep
There's alot to be said for having a few slurry tankers full of water sitting on the headlands?
Terrible. Would be best to have a water wagon with spray rig there
Hoping they get field out also
No one hurt Thank God, Amen 😊
Besides having tanks and fire suppression on ALL our bank out wagons, we also have pickups with 320 tanks and pumps and a 40 ft. disc ready to plow to contain the fire. I can't believe you guys are so ill equipped. We would never even start a combine without all the fire fighting equipment on site and ready to go.
right
Right is an understatement. We had 2 spot field fires, 2 header fires, and a quad trac bank out wagon fire this harvest. This is over 15,000acres, 8 combines, 4 quads, and 12 tractor trailers. All were contained in seconds, and burned less than 3 acres, and zero loss of equipment.That's what being prepared is all about.
Such a large machine part, why hasn't it got a fire extinguisher system incorporated that can be activated by the driver? It'd save hundreds of thousands in money.
You can have them on the machine but not the head as the head has to be able to be removed for travel
@@Bigsoot7393 Thanks for your reply, It's just that I've worked in my youthful days manufacturing various machines and some of them required having extinguisher spray bars fitted, these were made in such a way that they were stand alone from the main machine, a cartridge on the detachable part was loaded with an extinguisher and just required a coupler leaver on the detachable part.
For the investment you guys have in equipment a water truck with a fire hose would save you tons of money..
So, a draper head can catch fire, has its own oil to burn, and is a bitch to unhook when it is burning. No draper header for me.
maybe you should mount a 100 gallon tank to the combine with a pump system to a header on the combine head.
A russian said the same thing.
I feel bad I have 3 of those and we’re renting 4 for me and I’m 11
For how many pieces of machinery are lost during harvest… im absolutely surprised yall dont carry more fire extinguishers on each machine. 1 dinky little courtesy extinguisher is good for nothing. Its only big enough to put a check mark in the QC check list (for as little dollars as possible. To maximize their profits). Those round balls that go poof when they get hot and cover everything within 10’ with retardant would be handy as heck. Have 4 large extinguishers & 4 of those balls and youd be in much better shape. Even if you have insurance… insurance isnt going to help you finish harvest right now. Insurance is long, drawn out, stressful, mundane process.
wow... hate to see this. glad you were able to get the combine off.. what started the fire
Bearing in the center belt got too hot. Lit it on fire
are no ready water tank traktors? ohh no!
Хорошо хоть комбайн спасли 👍
I think it would have been better to have launched the camera and done something useful
Id already done it. We fought it elsewhere before this location. Im glad you watched it.
insurance looked after it? or was it on warranty?
Insurance covered it, and would have covered the combine if we were to have lost both the head and machine. That's what insurance is for, so you dont have to do what we did.
A lot of fire extinguishers are a lot cheaper
At least no-one was injured
This could have easily been put out if they would have had some damn water. Every single machine should have two or three fire extinguishers and every farm should have a dedicated fire truck. All it takes is a pump, a hose, and a tank with a couple thousand gallons of water in it. A few hundred gallons would be better than nothing. What a shame.
Every machine had 2 or 3 water fire extinguishers and we had a watertruck that was canyons away. You must picture a different place than where we farm. This is the steepest farmland in America. We have since converted our bankout wagons into fire fighting machines. Not because of comments like this, but thanks for commenting anyways. Have a good one
You could’ve easily stopped that header from being on fire yes it wouldn’t work but it would reduce the chance of the field catching even bigger fire and you wouldn’t be that stressed to disconnect the header
MacDon salesman is having a fire sale, he says they have a deal on a header and this deal is hot and won't last for long.
Does the dust catch fire an start the fire?
The straw on the head caught fire when one of the roller bearings on the head went out.
Is it caused on stones (little ones, so driver can't see)hitn' by the knives? Happens while you "hillmaster"- ing the jop.
Coulda been. It wasnt really rocky where we were at. We are not sure of the cause. Definitely was the header though. Lol
Whistlin diesel got you beat
Any farmer knows not to take low riding gas rigs in the field.
Here in ks you can insure that $100k head, have a disaster like this and the ins will say: well its only worth $17k, thanks for buying the $100k policy tho
Yeah, insurance hates paying out. Luckily my boss is friends with his insurance agent. lol.
when the header is made 100% of steel canot burn,the steel does not burn,this one was made of plastic,and we all know that plastic burns
Can we donate you?
Theres super thanks functionality i believe but i am not sure how it works. We dont have a patreon or anything.