How to turn a circle inside out (Visual Calculus and the Tractrix)

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  • @lexinwonderland5741
    @lexinwonderland5741 Рік тому +559

    your presentation is absolutely adorable, your explanation is satisfying but accessible, please please please keep making content!!

  • @not_David
    @not_David Рік тому +228

    I'm floored by how good your videos are, please keep making more!

  • @yumnuska
    @yumnuska Рік тому +165

    I’m just flabbergasted at how good your videos are. Please keep going.
    First, your casual style really minimizes completely in a beautiful way. It’s just so simple!! Meaning that you introduce complexity in such a natural way that it doesn’t feel complex at all.
    Second, and following from the first, I just feel so happily, jubilantly surprised when you use a simple example to describe a complex result. The bike path metaphor leading to 2pi just shocked me in the best way. I love it.
    As a casual math geek, I just love how you present complex ideas without getting too deep in the details. I don’t care about the details, I care about the joy of the relationships, and you do that just so wonderfully.

  • @cougar2013
    @cougar2013 Рік тому +23

    I have a physics PhD and I never heard of the tractrix. I’m glad you made this video because I learned something. Very well done and please keep it up!

  • @iamstickfigure
    @iamstickfigure Рік тому +64

    The factoid about area traced out while riding a bike is delightful. And your illustrations to support the idea were perfect! It really made it click for me, and I think the idea will stick with me every time I ride a bike

  • @katarixy
    @katarixy Рік тому +27

    This was beautifully done. As a math teacher myself I cannot help but thank you for the brilliant perspective and detailed presentation.

    • @physicsforthebirds
      @physicsforthebirds  Рік тому +6

      I'm glad you liked it! I think visual calculus fits well in a classroom since it's so hands on.

    • @katarixy
      @katarixy Рік тому +2

      @@physicsforthebirds Do you use a wacom tablet or iPad to make the animations?

    • @physicsforthebirds
      @physicsforthebirds  Рік тому +7

      @@katarixy I make the animations on iPad with Procreate

  • @josephblattert6311
    @josephblattert6311 Рік тому +51

    This channel better blow up soon. You deserve to be so much bigger with this kind of quality.

  • @nenben8759
    @nenben8759 Рік тому +2

    When you first posed the question, I imagined the dog making a perfect circular orbit around the owner

  • @AJMansfield1
    @AJMansfield1 Рік тому +8

    That trick with the area between a bicycle's tracks is also (with some coordinate substitutions) the way a planimeter works.

  • @bhavin_ch
    @bhavin_ch Рік тому +12

    Isn't this an Irodov problem? This feels like an Irodov problem! This is like bringing back some massive nostalgia from my college entrance prep days ❤

  • @andrewpappas7198
    @andrewpappas7198 Рік тому +19

    Well done. I was enthralled through the entire presentation. Please, continue to make videos.

  • @congruentcrib
    @congruentcrib Рік тому +3

    The whole analogy with the bike is actually used in safety measures in cars. We always suggest you have your best tires in the back; even if you have a front wheel drive car.
    The reason is if you hydroplane in the read, but not the front, the rear tires new angle (total toe/ thrust angle) will dictate where you go. On the other hand if your front tires hydroplane your steer ahead will change and this is much easier to recover. Along with that, if you step on the brakes and your rear tires hydroplane, your rear end will be pushed forward making your thrust angle exponentially greater. If your front tires hydroplane and you brake, the front end will pull on the vehicle which will not put you into a uncontrolled drift of over 45 degrees. A 45 degree spin out is much easier than a 360 spin out. These both are extremes, but we’ve seen you guys drive… I’m amazed anyone is alive to be honest.
    If you want more details, I’d love to share them. I’m alignment certified by Hunter Engineering, and that’s why I may use fancy terms like “total toe, steer ahead, thrust angle, etc.” and if you need me to explain, I’m happy to. I just will say that it’s easier to show than it is to tell. After all, it is geometry… and physics. Stuff is hard to explain with visuals, but is much harder using only words.

  • @drkirka
    @drkirka Рік тому +9

    I'm in SHOCK that you don't have as much subscribers as i thought you would. Your visuals, audio, script and overall production quality are incredible. Keep up the work!!!! Love it. 💕

  • @sulfurx777
    @sulfurx777 Рік тому +8

    I didn’t realise this channel only had 9k subs until a couple videos in. With this level of quality you’ll definitely have a bunch more in no time.

  • @flavioryu5922
    @flavioryu5922 Місяць тому

    I got a couple of recent videos recommended and now im in a deepdive of all the other videos. I love this channel

  • @fable4315
    @fable4315 Рік тому +14

    Love your videos, so entertaining and still super informative.
    Hopefully you get a bit more attention in the future!

  • @jhemilae
    @jhemilae Рік тому +1

    Give this man more subscribers.

  • @jojoanggono3229
    @jojoanggono3229 Рік тому +1

    I love Calculus. Dog will be infinitely close to owner path but never touches. Your visual method of explaining is very appealing, I imagine it would be interesting for young audience.

  • @kenshininoue7648
    @kenshininoue7648 Рік тому +1

    loved the video. i used to watch a lot of cliff stoll's lecture on topology back in my freshman. it reminded me of that.

  • @taliaturner9926
    @taliaturner9926 Рік тому +18

    What if you leash another dog to the first one? Is that just another tractrix, or do you get a super-tractrix?

    • @physicsforthebirds
      @physicsforthebirds  Рік тому +24

      Wow, that's a question! Since the first dog isn't moving in a straight line, the second one can't be moving in a tractrix. The angle of the second leash would lag behind the first, so the super-tractrix must be steeper than the original. Whatever the case, the area between the two dogs must be the same as the tractrix. But now I want to know what happens as you approach many dogs with infinitesimal leashes!

    • @Awerewolf101
      @Awerewolf101 Рік тому +2

      @@physicsforthebirds you should probably know that dogs do not do a tractrix they go where they want whether it's nearby, ahead of you or even using the leash to make a tangled mess

  • @mcloudyoutube
    @mcloudyoutube Рік тому +1

    I’ve been slowly going through your videos this past week, and I absolutely love all of them. Please keep up your content, I love how you focus on explaining through the theoretical/contextual lens rather than force feeding all of the practical information and hard numbers

  • @derpaderp9824
    @derpaderp9824 Рік тому +2

    Top tier content. This is genuinely enjoyable.

  • @osmanosman6206
    @osmanosman6206 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you very much for these very nice explanations and demonstration.

  • @micahsilverman5284
    @micahsilverman5284 Рік тому +1

    You are my new favorite UA-cam channel! I feel lucky that UA-cam reccomended you!

  • @ifroad33
    @ifroad33 Рік тому

    I can totally see Matt Parker calculating Pi from the trails of a bicycle for his next Pi-day video. Interesting video, and very nice visual explanations!

  • @mr_rede_de_stone916
    @mr_rede_de_stone916 Рік тому +1

    Love it! You'd think after years of roaming around the maths youtube you wouldn't find any more thingy that's both simple and full of secrets but here we are... And oh such a lovely explanation too, congrats!

  • @charlychatelain8795
    @charlychatelain8795 Рік тому +1

    already my new favorite youtuber :))

  • @moonface3665
    @moonface3665 Рік тому +1

    Don't know if I needed to know this but I am highly intrigued, will be staying around for a while

  • @imsleepy620
    @imsleepy620 Рік тому +1

    bro this is incredible

  • @EdwardChan.999
    @EdwardChan.999 Рік тому +1

    I'm leaving a comment here to let you know that I am shocked by how well you transitioned between seemingly irrelevant yet logically relevant concepts across applications in different fields... you've beaten SciShow as my favourite science channel 👍🏻

  • @robloggia
    @robloggia Рік тому +1

    I really wish you had been my Algorithms teacher back in college.

  • @jojnokirk8035
    @jojnokirk8035 Рік тому +1

    my favorite fun fact about spheres and pseudospheres is the right angles in a "square." on a plain (surface with constant 0 curvature) a square is shape made entire of right angles and it has 4 sides. on a sphere, a shape made of only right angles would be 3 sides (equator, up to north pole, turn, back down to equator, turn, back to where you started), but on a hypersphere, an only-right-angled shape would have 5 sides! pretty cool

    • @physicsforthebirds
      @physicsforthebirds  Рік тому +1

      Pretty sweet! That's how I was able to make the 5-sided and 3-sided origami paper for my non-Euclidean cranes

  • @jpeglucy
    @jpeglucy Рік тому +1

    this video is incredibly easy to follow even though its describing more advanced mathmatical concepts, and its fun to look at! definitely dererves more subs

  • @thementosII
    @thementosII Рік тому +1

    This was brilliant

  • @Friek555
    @Friek555 Рік тому

    The area between bike tire tracks is easily the best fun math fact I learned in years!

  • @potato_cm
    @potato_cm Рік тому +1

    You are awesome your videos are so much fun!

  • @xbox70333
    @xbox70333 Рік тому +1

    We can view any closed shape polygon is just a special form of a circle, a circle which has edge length > 0, thus made of finite number of line segments, unlike a circle which can be thought of being made of infinite line segments, thus the smooth shape. Once you realise this, all paths that end up at the start, traced by a bike, are just forming concentric circles in the end. Just special forms of circles.

  • @Kids_Scissors
    @Kids_Scissors Рік тому +2

    I usually go home and watch UA-cam to get away from geometry (haven't learned claculus yet) but damn this is mad interesting

  • @twelvethousandths1698
    @twelvethousandths1698 Рік тому

    You are one of the best math youtubers out there! Shame that you are so underappreciated!

  •  Рік тому +1

    Broh, just found out your channel.
    I just fucking love it. Please, keep doing videos like this!

  • @RED-jg6mt
    @RED-jg6mt Рік тому

    UNBELIEVABLY UNDERRATED. Thank you so much for this video, so interesting!

  • @humanperson8418
    @humanperson8418 Рік тому +1

    You Sir Bird have earnt yourself a sub for a great video.

  • @howdy832
    @howdy832 Рік тому +2

    This is fantastic!

  • @BreadSauce4
    @BreadSauce4 Рік тому +1

    This is an amazing video. Keep up the great work!

  • @lunaponta594
    @lunaponta594 Рік тому

    "so next time you're riding your bike or walking your dog, you can tell your friend all about the tractrix"
    GODDAMNIT i already have too much to talk about! thanks tho

  • @XxdaleforlifexX
    @XxdaleforlifexX Рік тому +6

    careful you're pinching it infinitely tight

  • @bourgeoibee
    @bourgeoibee Рік тому

    4:35 is a perfect visual for integration by substitution

  • @RuleOfThrees
    @RuleOfThrees Рік тому +1

    This is really excellent! I am amazed and learned something cool!

  • @TheLogotero
    @TheLogotero Рік тому

    I just love this videos

  • @user-hs9ul3yi9g
    @user-hs9ul3yi9g 2 місяці тому

    The rule to get area between tracks only applies to Euclidean geometry or if the plane of the paths is flat. If you make a trip on a bicycle around the Earth wiggling around the equator - the area is positive but you made no turns cause you end up in the beginning in the same orientation

  • @rizalardiansyah4486
    @rizalardiansyah4486 Рік тому +2

    Just stumbled upon this channel in my feed. Really like the way you explain stuff! Another example I found it useful about this tractrix curve is on CNC drag knife. It works just like the bike example!
    One question though, when you mention that differential equation (DE), I don't think that is a DE? It looks like an ordinary integration problem because from what I know it has to have a "y" Variable in the equation for it to be DE. I hope someone can confirm or tell why if it is otherwise. I'm kinda new to DE stuff... Thanks!

  • @legoworks-cg5hk
    @legoworks-cg5hk Рік тому +1

    It's similar to when slices of fruit lean on each other and make a curve on top

  • @flamshiz
    @flamshiz Рік тому

    this feels like an April fool's day prank

  • @plootyluvsturtle9843
    @plootyluvsturtle9843 Рік тому +1

    dog drawing is underrated

  • @JTCF
    @JTCF Рік тому +3

    I remember that old youtube video about turning a sphere inside out... IIRC it said that turning a 2d circle inside out is not possible. Well, well, well...

  • @johnnicholson8811
    @johnnicholson8811 Рік тому +2

    As I watch this, I thought of another tractrix. An 18 wheeler truck.

    • @physicsforthebirds
      @physicsforthebirds  Рік тому +2

      That's actually a very relevant example; some of this same bike track math has applications in parking control systems for autonomous vehicles with trailers.

  • @godabuse
    @godabuse Рік тому

    i love this channel, somehow you explain physics in a way that’s kinda similar to computer science

  • @RyanLynch1
    @RyanLynch1 Рік тому

    great video! hope to see more from this channel

  • @KumaBones
    @KumaBones Рік тому

    This was really insightful and interesting to listen to, after just taking trig and going into calc1 lol

  • @ipeaceful6
    @ipeaceful6 Рік тому

    great video! thanks!!

  • @QuartzChrysalis
    @QuartzChrysalis Рік тому +1

    Making these shapes with string, nails and a board when i was a kid might be part of why i like maths.

  • @mikefischbein3230
    @mikefischbein3230 Рік тому

    Superb video!!

  • @EPMTUNES
    @EPMTUNES Рік тому

    Awesome video!

  • @SpaceSoups
    @SpaceSoups Рік тому

    I can see this outro jingle being as culturally significant as the Vsauce one in a few years.

  • @donchaput8278
    @donchaput8278 Рік тому

    Great Content!

  • @DarkAngelEU
    @DarkAngelEU Рік тому +3

    Can you make a video on how to turn a sphere inside out?

  • @Fire_Axus
    @Fire_Axus Рік тому +1

    Why are the comments on this video so kind?

  • @Thejosiphas
    @Thejosiphas Рік тому

    so fire dude

  • @aidenboudreau
    @aidenboudreau Рік тому +2

    Let it be known I was your 484th subscriber once your famous. Great job!

  • @tsunamio7750
    @tsunamio7750 Рік тому

    4:39 Oh my god this example of your is painfullll! xD
    But yes, I accept that, keep going, don't stop now! :)

  • @-CrySa-
    @-CrySa- Рік тому +3

    Your videos are great but you should really do something about your microphone or audio processing. Those *cs* sounds (not sure how else to describe them) are really annoying and make it difficult to watch for me.

  • @pal181
    @pal181 Рік тому

    I can't imagine how these triangles make up the circle or it's quarter.

  • @TheLetterB123
    @TheLetterB123 Рік тому +1

    3:45 aperture science refrence lol

  • @appa609
    @appa609 Рік тому

    It does depend on *some* physics. If you did this experiment in zero g vacuum the dog will end up rotating around you. This is obvious if you view the problem from the human's (inertial) frame

  • @beansprugget2505
    @beansprugget2505 Рік тому

    Good video

  • @Nosewrecky
    @Nosewrecky Рік тому

    thanks!

  • @mehdimabed4125
    @mehdimabed4125 Рік тому +1

    Hey !Really cool video ! y the way, what is the veeery cool music in the background at 8:04 ? Really nice music !

    • @physicsforthebirds
      @physicsforthebirds  Рік тому +2

      The music is my own, made for the video. I'm glad you like it!

    • @redstone8513
      @redstone8513 Рік тому

      @@physicsforthebirds Please release it!

  • @davisremmenga4906
    @davisremmenga4906 Рік тому

    I have that same Yoda backpack

  • @RilianSharp
    @RilianSharp Рік тому

    i wanted to know what shape you would walk in if you're walking at the same speed as another person who is walking in a straight line and you're always walking towards them, and i think this is the same problem, so yea!

  • @RussellSubedi
    @RussellSubedi Рік тому +2

    Quick question: is that race happening in San Fierro?

    • @physicsforthebirds
      @physicsforthebirds  Рік тому +1

      It's a map of San Francisco, which I guess San Fierro is based on 🤣 ...wasn't meant as a reference!

  • @richardnavas2610
    @richardnavas2610 Рік тому

    Isn't that also the shape of gabriel's horn? The one with finite volume but infinite area

  • @superparadox
    @superparadox Рік тому

    this is cool

  • @aappaapp6627
    @aappaapp6627 Рік тому

    Cool!

  • @mallardmax3127
    @mallardmax3127 Рік тому

    What are the intro/outro songs. They are really good!

  • @Fire_Axus
    @Fire_Axus Рік тому +3

    Where do you turn the církve inside out?

    • @Fire_Axus
      @Fire_Axus Рік тому

      sorry autocorrect

    • @ruroruro
      @ruroruro Рік тому +3

      The author has an unfortunate habit of lying in their video titles. They made another video the title of which claimed that the universe has negative curvature, but the video actually concluded that the universe is flat.

  • @damie9412
    @damie9412 Рік тому

    Nice

  • @kamehamehey22615
    @kamehamehey22615 Рік тому +1

    Imagine if they made a bike called the Tractrix

  • @psylonmusic5264
    @psylonmusic5264 Рік тому

    It's Appa ! =D

  • @sydney5585
    @sydney5585 Рік тому

    Love it

  • @efs3
    @efs3 Рік тому +2

    I wonder how shapes could vary if you were to introduce another variable for if the dog was to walk closer to the owner than the leash is long

  • @theorixlux
    @theorixlux Рік тому

    Okay. Maybe you're right, and I hear you, 100%. But how do you turn a circle happy?

  • @DissonantSynth
    @DissonantSynth Рік тому

    This was a phenomenal video, but if I may make a suggestion, please try to filter out the wet sounds from your mouth when you're talking

  • @dimitrisivak738
    @dimitrisivak738 Рік тому

    so a sphere in 3d creates a funnel in 4d...?

  • @luciuscaeciliuslucundus3647

    Your videos are absolutely incredible! Just watched the jazz one and now this! I do have but one question however: if the bike changes direction, i.e starts turning left then turns right, does the area kind of cancel itself out a but like being above or below the x axis in an integral, in which case the degree it turns through doesn't represent the area? I'm not sure if this is right but if anybody knows I would appreciate it!
    Keep up the absolutely perfect videos!!

    • @physicsforthebirds
      @physicsforthebirds  Рік тому +2

      That's exactly how it works! As long as you keep track of the angles that went in the other direction the area will still be proportional to the total angle. At 4:11 the red triangles are ones that went the other way, so you can see how I subtracted them instead of added.

    • @luciuscaeciliuslucundus3647
      @luciuscaeciliuslucundus3647 Рік тому

      @@physicsforthebirds awesome! Thank you so much for letting me know - very very cool! Keep it up!

  • @hella_cool1312
    @hella_cool1312 Рік тому

    Visual Calculus [Challenging: Success]

  • @RilianSharp
    @RilianSharp Рік тому

    7:32 what is happening here, is the bike moving backwards

    • @physicsforthebirds
      @physicsforthebirds  Рік тому

      Yeah, if the front tire turns around in a small enough radius then the back tire will make a sharp stop and then start moving backwards. At 7:34, the back tire (green) was moving backwards between those two sharp points and the front tire was always moving forwards.

  • @cgpcgp3239
    @cgpcgp3239 Рік тому

    Area using visual calculus can’t be exact. The tip of every triangle is curved no matter how many slices.
    I saw an explanation like this on why pi is used to determine area of a circle. No matter how many times you slice the circle the short end is curved. Even if it’s not visible to the eye. It’s wholly unsatisfying.

  • @Isaac-ph5co
    @Isaac-ph5co Рік тому

    Is it the braquistochrome curve?

  • @Quadr44t
    @Quadr44t Рік тому +1

    Hmm, isn't this the shape that makes balls roll down the fastest? Why are these curves connected? I feel like there should be an underlying logic here.

    • @physicsforthebirds
      @physicsforthebirds  Рік тому +1

      The brachistochrone is a cycloid, a curve drawn by a point on the edge of a rolling circle. The tractrix can be drawn as the curve that always perpendicularly intersects a rolling circle, so they're somewhat related!

  • @reecec626
    @reecec626 Рік тому

    Isn't that called a brachistochrone?

    • @physicsforthebirds
      @physicsforthebirds  Рік тому

      The brachistochrone is drawn by a point on the edge of a rolling circle, but the tractrix can be drawn as the curve that always perpendicularly intersects a rolling circle, so they're somewhat related!