Mazatrol Tutorial Programming CNC Video Part #2 Mazak T-2 T-3 Lathe
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Mazatrol Tutorial Programming CNC Video Part #2 Mazak T-2 T-3 Lathe. This is the second programmed part in the series. Here I am machining a part similar to a door knob or trailer hitch ball. The Mazatrol controller uses the tool file and tool data of the tools selected in the program to control the tool path.
Watching this brings back so many memories for me, I used to work on the same machines with my dad who sadly passed away a couple of years ago, dad was trained at Mazak in Worcestershire England, he knew pretty much everything you could know about them including some of the hidden internal code.
A little story for you.
Dad was my foreman/supervisor and he had to train me on programming and setting the QT10-N with the T2 controls, programming to him was second nature so he was really fast, I asked "Right then old man, how do we start programming these things?" his reply was "Ok son, less of the old man, I hope you are watching cos I still have 4 other machines to program, right then you start with....." at this point, his words rolled into one, his fingers became a blur, and it was as if time shot forward at the rate of an express train, I had no chance of keeping up. Later that night he called me to help him with his computer at home, he showed me what it was he wanted to do so I told him to watch so he could learn, this is when the little devil appeared on my shoulder and said "go on, do it, doooooo iiiiiiiiit" with a few flashes and several windows later it was done and dad had only written down the name of what he wanted to do on his piece of paper, he looked at me with that puzzled wtf expression, I smiled at him and said "next time you tutor me on those machines at work, can you bloody slow down cos all I learnt today was, don't underestimate old men and experience" he returned with a big old belly laugh and "I bloody hate cheeky kids".
They are surprisingly easy to learn how to program (as CNC programming goes) I never got the chance to learn how to program any other control systems to compare unfortunately, the rest of the machines in our workshop were from the ark and were either manual or pegboard.
getting trained on a mazatrol at work. ive been a mill machinist for almost 10 years. your videos have been awesome! super helpful, easy to follow along and digest the material. thanks!
Thanks for the compliment. Glad they are helping you out.
You are my first master, Good video Thank alot for sharing The Knowledge (I'm from THAILAND).
love your videos. as a hobbyist, i love machining. i think a good idea, that every one would love including my self, is you making a series over turning chess pieces. there small, we can use any material , so its cheap to play around with, and you can make each chess piece more complicated then the last one.
Thanks for this, I'm a CNC Machinist for 40 years and ran Mazaks back in early 2000's. Starting a new job soon and they are all Mazaks. This refreshed my Memory on Mazatrol and helped alot. Thank you very much. Have you ever used Fanuc FAPT ? was great too. I'm subscribed for more.
I used FAPT a long time ago. It was developed in response to Mazatrol. FAPT works but very slow to use.
Thank you very much!
You're welcome.
Thanks for sharing your video sir.
You're welcome.
2.5-1.8=0.35
1.25-0.35=0.90
(1.25^2)-(0.9^2)=0.752
Sq route of 0.752=.867
So length 1.25+.867=2.117
🙄 but in mazatrol it will be easy in one single option 👍.upload more video. Before I worked on Mazatrol so your videos recollect all that again.thanks for sharing boss.
That level of math is above my skills. I'm spoiled with Mazatrol.
Can I share this link to fb
@@prasanthek1685 Sure. Thanks.
Excellent video
Thanks.
Thank you video very helpful
Thanks.
Whenever I put in the tool nose Radius when describing the tool in the tool data page the tool will stop short of that amount in Z. How do I correct this in the parameters?
Whenever you do an arc do you always have to put in a center?
No. Only when you do not know the start or end point.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 I keep getting "Reverse Shape Contour" error code. But I checked it out in master cam and the coordinates I got is what it gave me.
@@mccheezen20 Add .0001" to Z end point. There is a rounding error going on and Mazatrol does not allow a reverse shape even with 50 millionths.
how come i can't get the TRACE/tool animation graphics to come on on 640 MT fusion any body got a clue?
Unfortunately Mazak discontinued that feature. Only has a red triangle now for the tool center.
Phil, at 10:34, you mention adding 2 thou to the FPT-Z in order to prevent a sharp edge being left on the chamfer, saying the tool will roll over the edge. Can you explain this to me in more detail so I can understand how that works? I’m having a issue on my parts having a burr even though there is a chamfer being cut on the edge. Thanks!
The reason why you want to add .002 is because that makes the machine go back further than the burr that kicks up on the chamfer pass. I want to draw it for you because it would be easier, but think of it as at the chamfer the tool will go .002 past the end of the chamfer towards the spindle thus cutting that burr off. Hope that helps
If you zoom in on the chamfer and run the toolpath, you will see the difference the .002 thou adds to the part vs not adding it.
You may have explained this already, but Im still having trouble getting my thoughts around the concept of tool wear compensation on the Mazak. I was running a part today and I couldn't get the OD or the ID quite right. The OD was .005 over on the smaller OD in the front of the piece, but .010 over in the back. Then the ID was .020 too small.
So, if I go into the wear and put in -.005 in the wear, that would make the lathe thing the bit is smaller, so it will take more off to compensate, correct? Then if I put in .005 in the wear, it would make the bit larger, so it would take off less. Am I thinking about this right, or backwards?
You are correct if you are talking about outside turning tools.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 So it's the reverse for inside turning then? The spec on the part was an ID of 1.28 and I was reading 1.195. So I would put -.085 on the wear compensation, or +.085?
@@Captain_Hapton +
.085" to make the boring bar cut bigger.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Thanks for the help. Your videos are very helpful, especially since the guy training me had to leave last week.
Sir can you explain me how to set a workshift on mazatrol t plus
It is same procedure as setting workshift on the T-3 but the T+ uses a different screen.
@13:00 is there a way you can just skip al the previous operations so to get to the operation you wanna see ?
On the older control like mine you have to play with the layout and move the operation you want to see to the top, but then you need to reset the layout before running the part. The newer machines can restart the toolpath wherever you want.
Are there any older mazak machines with double powerful DC z x feed, that are equped with Manuel 3 jaws, that have double spindel for under 100000?
Not sure what it is you are asking.
Phil can you make a video on broaching please ?
I'm not sure how to program that as my machine does not have macro capabilities. Programming it step by step would take forever.
I want to open a CNC lathe workshop, do you recommend me to start with a Mazak machine? I've just used Haas.
I'm partial to Mazaks if you have not noticed. Lol.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Ok so I'll definately consider a Mazak lol.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 which model of Mazak do you recommend?(second hand) Obviously buying a new one is not affordable for me for the moment.
We have a Haas and three Mazak's where I work currently. I have to say if you want a quick workflow go with Mazak they are more expensive generally but in the long run worth while.
@@GrImReApPeR99 thanks, I'll definately consider a Mazak now.
How come you didn’t set the x offset ?(only the z was performed here). Asking because I’m new to mazak and on the Haas lathe we always set the z and x. Thanks for the videos. Good information.
You only set Z on a Mazak. The machine already knows where the X centerline is at.
Mazatrol Tips and Tricks thanks! So it knows from the OD value inserted in the program.
@@75kGa No, the machine's X position is going to be the same no matter what program you run. The only thing that changes from program to program is where the face of the part is in relation to the chuck.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 ok, but dont you still have to tell it where the top of the stock starts, work offset? Or know. This is what confused me in the books, I know about z tool offset, I find it interesting and convientent that the mazak control doesn't use tool radius center, just complete radius profile compensation control, I also like that all the tools are referenced as having their own offset 1, I think it makes it confusing when there is like, T04o4 T06O6, they make it bloody sound like their is multiple offsets for one tool.
@@ryanb1874 Yes, that is called the workshift Z offset for the program.
Can you make a ball with only grooving tool on Mazatrol T2?
And if you can explain how?
I own T32-2.
Thank you.
Something like: ua-cam.com/video/fJPtq2vtXVY/v-deo.html
(Watch from 0:30)
But I would maybe first rough it like a grooving cycle.
@@iguana200 Yes, Mazatrol can do exactly like you see in that video. Roughing it with a groove cycle and a full radius insert would not be beneficial.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Thank you. What cycle would I have to choose? And do I describe the tool as grooving or bar out?
@@iguana200 Use a Bar Out and describe the tool as a grooving tool with a full radius. The grooving tool depth description needs to be .300" or shorter otherwise the machine will not turn with a groove tool.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 Cool, will try it out. Thanx. again.. Best regards.
You need close the camera to the screen to can see what you typing ...tenks
This was an early video and I was still learning. Newer videos I am closer to the screen.
@@mazatroltipsandtricks6816 good videos tenks